Because ICE Is Losing In Minnesota, Hegseth Is Prepping For Actual Martial Law
from the we'll-fuck-them-up-too dept
LOL this government thought actual murder would shut Minneapolis down. You absolute idiots. Whatever kills us makes us stronger. And I say that as only a part-time Minnesotan. I’ve split time between there and South Dakota over the past couple of decades. And Minneapolis never fails to impress.
The administration went all in on Minneapolis after a MAGA grifter claimed a bunch of fraud was being perpetrated by Somali-Americans. Trump, of course, believed this because he hates Minnesota, Somalis, Ilhan Omar, and anything else that looks like it might be a grassroots reaction to his Ministry of Hate.
Cue this latest move by the government, which is still in the “pending” pile. But don’t expect this leash to be held in check for long.
The Pentagon has ordered 1,500 US troops based in Alaska to prepare to deploy to Minnesota as a precautionary measure in case the administration decides to send them, a US official said, speaking on condition of anonymity. The unit of the 11th Airborne Division is a cold-weather unit nicknamed “The Arctic Angels.”
Hey, good luck with that. Local businesses are far less willing to feed and house federal officers, given the risk it poses to their own businesses once the locals discover where ICE is shacking up and/or getting its coffee. While DHS officials love to claim any refusal to house federal officers is unamerican af, the reality is that local business owners don’t want the negative publicity and negative public action housing ICE officers might provoke.
You’d think a shrewd businessperson such as Donald Trump would understand. After all, he’s made a career out of strategic bankruptcies and investing in gold leaf futures. He should sympathize with small business owners who don’t want to be whistled/ice-cubed/TripAdvisored into non-existence. But he doesn’t because he only cares about Trump and thinks everyone should be asking “Where’s Trump?” whenever he fails to post to his own social media service 5-10 times a day.
“Arctic Angels” my Midwestern white ass. These won’t be angels. They’ll be on the wrong side of history for as long as history persists, which tends to be forever. (Just ask the Roman Empire figures you idolize, you stupid white nationalist fucks.)
It’s not just the Army that might be coming for Minneapolis, the home of Minnesota Nice and interpretations of cold weather that defy scientific measurement. You may have trained in Alaska, but have you ever been whistled into submission by people who know how to walk on ice without falling flat on their ass?
I submit to you that you are not ready to deal with Minnesota. No one is. The administration is still flustered by Portland, Oregon, where inflatable animal costumes have beaten ICE into semi-submission.
Bringing in the FBI isn’t going to change anything, especially when it’s still headed by an insurrection enabler that has been elevated to a level of infamy even his worst enemies would only hesitantly wish on him:
At the same time, the FBI is sending messages to its agents nationwide seeking volunteers to temporarily transfer to Minneapolis. It wasn’t immediately clear what the FBI would ask agents who volunteered to travel to Minneapolis to do.
The FBI already has a pretty big building in Minneapolis. Yep, that’s all theirs and I know because last December, I spent three days in the hotel facing it while visiting my family.
Bringing in more FBI agents may fill those officers a bit more, but it won’t make Minneapolis any less of the FOAD monster it has morphed into in response to a vengeful federal invasion.
Tim Walz, the governor of Minnesota, has pledged to send out National Guard troops to protect Minnesotans and their rights. The federal government, on the other hand, has only promised to send out more guys with guns to protect the government.
“We have to send more officers and agents just to protect our officers to carry out their mission,” ICE Director Todd Lyons said on Fox News’ Sunday Morning Futures. “The majority of those are there to protect the men and women who are already there. Now we need 10-15 officers per arrest to protect each other” against protesters.
If you cowards can’t arrest someone when faced with the combined forces of whistles and GTFO shouts without assembling half a platoon, you’re definitely in the wrong business. If you think sending more officers and actual military troops will keep Minneapolis residents from making it hard for you to be as racist as you want to be… well, just look at the response you provoked after murdering someone just because she made it clear she wasn’t intimidated by you.
Trump wants a war. But he’s not smart enough to choose his battles. Unless he’s got the willpower to push past the few guardrails keeping him in check, he’s going to be America’s next Custer — a man so secure in his white-makes-right philosophy that he won’t recognize that he’s in over his head until it’s far too late.
And the analogy fits: they’re both prime examples of the “meritocracy” a bunch of lesser failures claim makes this country great. On one hand, we have a thrice-divorced “deal maker” who’s more famous for his bankruptcies than his business successes. On the other hand, we have Custer, who’s absolutely the mold they cast MAGA from:
Custer graduated in 1861 from the United States Military Academy at West Point, New York, last in his class.
Not only last in his class, but last in his class of only 34. Most West Point classes exceeded 100 cadets, but with the Civil War an ongoing concern, many of Custer’s betters had already volunteered to serve, rather than (lol) compete with Custer for the worst grades.
Bring it on, losers. The Midwest will fuck you up in ways you New York elites (yes, that’s you, Trump) can’t even imagine.
Filed Under: 3rd amendment, bitchassness, defense department, ice, martial law, minnesota, pete hegseth, trump administration
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Except for the fact that we literally have an amendment in our constitution that says nobody has to house soldiers. These people really are just the dumbest fucking fascists, aren’t they.
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That doesn’t apply to hotels and paying customers, dumbass.
Now, I still think businesses broadly have the right to discriminate (like cakes). But the fact that, for instance, Hilton cut ties with that local franchisee so fast indicates the public is not on your side.
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It kind of does, though. Last time I checked, “government agent” isn’t a protected class of people when it comes to non-discrimination law.
Bring Masterpiece Cakeshop up again. I’ll be more than happy to school you all over again on that issue and shut you up for another few months.
No, it indicates that Hilton is run by a bunch of C-suite cowards who’d rather not risk their profits or their lives by being on the right side of the “fascists vs. Americans” fight.
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Sure cakeboy. Almost like I said I think they have a legal right to deny service. But they realized that would be very detrimental to their brand.
I’m already amazed at the lies you tell yourself.
And yet, no one has to bake you a cake.
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Given the fact that polling about Trump’s immigration enforcement shows that a majority of Americans disapprove of what ICE is doing in Minnesota (and elsewhere), I’d say the detrimental-to-the-brand move would be housing ICE agents.
Thank you! Now I get to make a whole new copypasta just for you out of a bunch of old comments. Buckle up, chucklefuck.
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The underlying facts of the Masterpiece Cakeshop case, as agreed upon by both the business itself and the customers who sued it, are as follows: Masterpiece Cakeshop was contacted by the plaintiffs and asked if they would sell the plaintiffs a wedding cake. When the business discovered that the plaintiffs were a gay couple, the business refused to sell the plaintiffs a wedding cake. At no point during this discussion were custom decorations of any kind discussed; this was about the basic underlying cake in and of itself.
When Masterpiece Cakeshop was taken to court over its refusal to sell a wedding cake to the plaintiffs, the business lost its case. Colorado non-discrimination laws, much like other similar laws around the country, say that a public-facing business cannot discriminate against customers based on certain protected traits; in Colorado, sexual orientation is one of those traits. The business refused to sell to a gay customer an item from its menu that it normally sold to straight customers, which meant the business had violated the law. At every level of the legal system aside from the Supreme Court, Masterpiece Cakeshop lost its appeals on the merits of their case. SCOTUS only kicked the can down the road by ruling that the original loss was tainted by what was deemed anti-Christian sentiment on part of the ruling body. At no point did the Supreme Court rule that Masterpiece Cakeshop had not violated Colorado’s non-discrimination law.
I’ll take this moment to note that after the original ruling, Masterpiece Cakeshop chose to stop making wedding cakes altogether rather than risk being dinged for violating the law every time it refused to make a wedding cake for a gay couple. At no point did any court, legislative body, or other legal authority say the business had to keep making wedding cakes.
Another case that happened in Colorado that was similar to this case involved Azucar Bakery. A conservative Christian activist visited that bakery with the intent to force his own complaint through the courts, and his plan was to ask the bakery for explicitly anti-queer speech put onto cakes shaped like the traditional Christian cross. Azucar baked the actual cakes for him as he requested, but when the time came for decorating the cakes with his requested text, the bakery refused on the grounds that it has a policy against putting “hate speech” on any of its products. It offered to sell him whatever he needed to decorate the cakes himself, but he refused to accept that accomodation. The activist sued Azucar Bakery, which won the case precisely because it had the right to refuse expressing speech with which its owners disagreed. He appealed his case to higher courts, but still lost because Azucar Bakery—much like Masterpiece Cakeshop—has a right to refuse expressing speech that goes against the conscience of its employees/owner(s).
Another similar case involved a company called Hands On Originals, which was sued for its refusal to print a shirt for a Pride festival. That business won its case because it, too, had the right to refuse printing certain kinds of speech—even if that speech is ostensibly positive and popular both culturally and sociopolitically.
In all three of the cases, the courts (save for SCOTUS) made the correct decisions. In the Azucar and Hands On cases, any ruling against those businesses would have punished the owners of those businesses for refusing to express speech that went against their consciences. Yes, those businesses cater to people in ways that involve creative speech. Yes, their refusals could—but not necessarily would—shut certain people out of the marketplace based on the speech those people want expressed. But no one, not even a bigot, should be compelled to express speech that violates their conscience.
A public-facing business has no right to deny, based on protected traits (e.g., religious creed, sexual orientation), selling anyone anything from the “menu” of goods and/or services it offers to the general public. The owners of such businesses can dislike who makes up the general public, but they don’t get to decide who is part of the general public—which means an anti-gay bigot who runs, say, a grocery store can’t refuse to let gay people shop in that store without running afoul of the law. Non-discrimination laws exist to ensure that marginalized groups are protected by law from being treated like second-class citizens. They are part of the general public that businesses must serve equally. (And in Colorado, those laws include “gender identity” and “sexual orientation” as protected classes.) That said, the government similarly has no right to force a business to express or host speech that the owner of said business doesn’t want to express. If the hypothetical anti-gay bigot is asked to put up posters for a Pride festival around their grocery store, that bigot has every right to say “no” without threat of government intervention, and the government has no right to make him say “yes”.
The issue with the Masterpiece Cakeshop case was never about the selling of a wedding cake decorated with what could be seen as messaging that celebrates a same-sex marriage. It was about the selling of a wedding cake, period. Any custom decorations could’ve been refused or at least negotiated; refusing to sell the cake at all is what sunk Masterpiece’s case in the courts (until SCOTUS punted on the issue). All the government ever did in this case was tell Masterpiece’s owner that if he refused to follow the law and sell wedding cakes to gay customers—regardless of any custom decorations or messaging, for which customers could do the job themselves or find someone else to do it for them—he would continue to be fined for each instance of his violating the law. At no point in this case, including SCOTUS, did anyone from the government or the courts attempt to force Masterpiece Cakeshop into baking a wedding cake, decorated or otherwise, for anyone. And Masterpiece Cakeshop voluntarily chose to stop selling wedding cakes so it wouldn’t keep running afoul of the law, which the owner likely would’ve done if he hadn’t made the decision to save himself the headaches.
And for the record, I’m not only fine with the decision in the Hands On case, I’m also fine with the ruling in the 303 Creative case despite the rather sizeable flaw of that case being built on a pure hypothetical instead of any actual harm. The government shouldn’t have the right to make anyone express speech that runs counter to their personal conscience regardless of what the speech is—e.g., a racist shouldn’t be forced to make a website for the Black Panthers, and a Black man shouldn’t be forced to make a website for the Klan. Masterpiece Cakeshop never made it that far, though. It offered something on its “menu” to the general public and retracted that offer when a gay customer tried to buy it only and specifically because that customer was gay.
…and there you have it, new copypasta ready to go. Now, do you have anything else to say on the matter, or will that be all out of you on this particular subject?
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Yeah, lol, the CNN internet poll isn’t cutting it, cakeboy.
Hilton faced a backlash, avoided it through swift action. Everyone but you losers was happy.
Not reading the fucking novel you wrote, jesus wept. Learn to self edit. (your thoughts, mostly)
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Was it from hundreds of thousands of Americans, or was it from a small-yet-loud contingent of Republican lawmakers, right-wing pundits, and their supporters (some of whom probably made threats against Hilton leadership)?
That’s a funny way of saying “I can’t actually refute anything he said”. And since I don’t see you disputing anything in that part of my comment that’s a statement of fact…well, your whole “cakeboy” insult is kind of backfiring on you, since it seems like I know more about non-discrimination law and the Masterpiece Cakeshop case than you ever have or ever will. But please, by all means: Show me where anything I asserted as a statement of fact is not actually a fact. Go ahead. Do it. I won’t even ask you to address anything that is laid out as my opinion. Just handle the facts. Can you do it, or will you once again run away while pissing into your adult diaper, you coward of a manchild?
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There are lots of non-protected classes, including political opinion (although that is a protected class for asylum, specifically). I don’t want particularly want every business I deal with to dig through all of that in determining whether I’m acceptable as a customer.
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Yes, and? “Government agent” isn’t exactly something a business would need to hire PIs and such to discover when the agent in question is literally trying to purchase services for the agency said agent works for.
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How are you this retarded.
I have said THREE TIMES NOW that Hilton could probably discriminate against ICE.
I have also said three times that doing so was OBVIOUSLY a bad idea.
You live in a tiny little bubble. Very few people (% wise, it can still be thousands of people) think like you do. CNN and a lot of MSM are also in that bubble, which probably gives you some false hope, but it’s just kinda pathetic, and sad.
Deporting illegal aliens is good, actually.
Obstructing law enforcement in their normal duties is bad, actually, and illegal.
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I’m pretty confident this isn’t about you and most businesses will just take your money without giving even a passing fuck about who you are. Maybe try to avoid making yourself a nuisance to that business with lame, performative bigotry games and they won’t even notice you there.
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What a dumb fucking thing to say. It literally just means Hilton wants federal money.
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I love this statement. Wealthy assholes speak for the whole population in your perspective. It explains why you let wealthy assholes at conservative propaganda outfits give you your opinions and views. What a confession!
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In what world does Hilton represent the public and how would them cutting ties with a single location, that they’ll likely quietly restore the before too long, represent the overall public opinion?
I’d tell you that’s not how literally anything works, but you either already know or are too dumb to understand properly.
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If you hadn’t figured it out, they were afraid of 47 telling GSO to avoid Hilton for travelling govt employees…
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Just in the rubbish liberal part. That’s all fake news anyway.
Doubling down only highlights the failure: Minnesotans have nothing to fear from their neighbors, and everything to fear from ICE.
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Trump and his cronies really did think ICE would be greeted as “liberators” there to “save” Minnesota from the evil brown people. Turns out that they went so heavy-handed with their bullshit that not only did people come out to defend their neighbors and protest ICE’s bullshit, they got people who aren’t even all that political off their asses. You know things are fucked when…well, in the words of Alexandr Solzhenitsyn:
Most Minnesotans wanted to be left alone. Then an ICE agent killed Renee Good. Now a good chunk of Minnesotans want to be left alone and are willing to risk their lives in pursuit of that goal. Radicalizing moments are rarely as public and well-known as that one, and that one radicalized a hell of a lot of people that I don’t think the Trump regime counted on being radicalized. Their biggest mistake—other than being racist assholes in the first place—was in thinking the blatant and unabashed racism of the voters that won Trump the presidency existed everywhere in the US.
And before any of our usual trolls come at me for the Renee Good bit: If Some Asshole really did fear for his life because of her, why did he step in front of her car instead of moving out of its way, and why did he have his gun drawn before Renee Good’s car started moving?
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If you don’t try to run over a police officer, your chances of being shot go WAAAAAAAAYYYYY down, it turns out.
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Three things.
You got anything else substantive on the matter, or are you going to repeat fascist propaganda and act like that’s going to change my mind in the face of video evidence that contradicts the word of fascists?
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And doctors came out of the woodwork to say, “yeah, he couldn’t have gotten internal bleeding from that and he wouldn’t have been discharged from the hospital for several days if he had.”
Just like the fascist enemies are both weak and strong, inversely this fascist was both mortally wounded and a quick healer, probably because of his “good genes” or some bullshit…
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Predictable, scripted, rhetoric bullshit.
She did no such thing, no mattter how enthusiastically you parrot the lie and, ICE, who are not cops, don’t have a mandate to execute citizens on a whim when they claim to be a little scared.
Doubly so while you useless, racist, fascist fucks forget that illegal immigration is a civil misdemeanor. NO ONE should be dying over it, but bloodthirsty dumbshits who think they’ll always be beloved by the haves always have to bloodthirsty dumbshit.
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Minnesota took Virginia’s flag in the civil war and will not give it back. Each time we get a new Governor, Virginia asks for it back and regardless of party we reply “No.”
In the 1930s the silver shirts (Nazi American political group) were sent packing from downtown Minneapolis with an ass kicking.
In the 1980s the Baldies were beating nazi punk ass in Uptown (near where I live).
During George Floyd we didn’t turn on our neighbors like the boogaloo and proud boy nazis wanted us to and we chased them from the city also. On my block we literally did this which is why I think there wasn’t any trouble directly near us during the following days of trouble.
Last weekend we ran like 10 Nazi/anti-muslim influencers out of downtown just like the Silver Shirts in the 1930s.
We aren’t going to give the Nazis anything now. It is Minnesota Heritage to beat Supremacists and Nazis.
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It’s always good practice to punch Nazis in the face…
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Maybe, but they targeted Minnesota specifically because it went for Harris (and because Walz is the governor, of course).
Of course, that doesn’t mean they didn’t also believe they would be greeted as liberators. They’re pretty good at the whole doublethink thing.
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By which you mean to illegal activities meant to hinder lawful enforcement, sometimes in coordination with state and local officials. I.e. Sedition.
Turns out this is what the Sedition Act is for.
If MN is going to go to war with the Federal government, the federal government must go to war with them. Just like the confederacy.
It’s amazing you seem surprised by this.
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Woo! Found a pedophile!
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I’m gonna take a shot in the dark and guess you’re one of those people who believe in “states’ rights”, but only in the context of abortion or the Second Amendment. By the by: How many American citizens do you believe the President should order the American military to kill so he can achieve his ideal order in Minnesota, and how many state and local leaders do you believe he should have killed and replaced with hand-picked subordinates who will answer to him instead of the people of Minnesota?
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I do believe in States Rights. Including Abortion! (murder is almost always a state level crime, afterall)
But in the few parts the federal government has jurisdiction (such as illegal aliens) they have Supremacy. To keep them from enforcing the law, even when done by the state government is a crime.
Here’s why what you said was stupid (and it was stupid on purpose): Owning a gun is a constitutional Right and abortion is not.
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So… gun rights should not be up to the states? Or… abortion should not be up to the states?
Like are you trying to refute an argument here, or should I assume you don’t have any deeper thoughts on abortion, gun control, and states rights?
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Abortion used to be a legally protected right. Then fucksticks like you voted Trump into office.
Also, I note that you didn’t answer the questions from my previous post: How many American citizens do you believe the President should order the American military to kill so he can achieve his ideal order in Minnesota, and how many state and local leaders do you believe he should have killed and replaced with hand-picked subordinates who will answer to him instead of the people of Minnesota?
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The far left Warren post war court lied to you and pretended it was cuz liberal women REALLY want to kill their babies for some reason. (oh, and KKK democrats really like racial eugenics)
It was never a right, and the flimsy excuse to try to pretend it did never even made any sense. (it was based on “privacy”, but when has the privacy of a murder mattered?) It was completely made up and every lawyer understood that, it was just about a desired outcome (kill babies especially black babies)
Go suck a lemon, all your ideas are wrong.
PS. You can cry “southern strategy” all you want, but GOP wanting some southern voters doesn’t magically make the KKK crimes not yours, and Lincoln is still ours.
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This alone makes your entire screed bullshit. There hasn’t been a leftist, much less far left court in American history. Your Overton window is propaganda.
If you have to go back to the 1930s to criticize the Democrats, you’re grasping at straws. And you’re ignoring that Trump makes racist comments all the time about his good genes and how certain ethnicities have low IQs. Not to mention all the white supremacists support Trump, or at least like the direction he’s headed and want even more.
10th Amendment. You’re confused about an enumerated right vs a right.
But you’re assigning the murder qualification. The Constitution doesn’t assign rights or personhood prior to birth. By law, it is not murder. If I decide to say that sneezing is murder, I can use that framing to argue that you have no right to sneeze, but that doesn’t make sneezing murder nor does it make it illegal.
Tell me you haven’t actually studied the topic without telling me you haven’t studied the topic.
First, you are again pretending anyone who criticizes you or Trump is a Democrat. This isn’t a team sport where everyone picks a team to root for. Second, the “GOP wanting some southern voters” isn’t what made the switch happen. It was active courting, it was changing party platforms, it was demographic changes, it was voter changes.
Are you suggesting that Obama supported the KKK? Your assertions don’t pass the smell test.
The modern GOP would call Lincoln a libtard. Tell me in your academic opinion what policies of Lincoln you agree with that should be revived by Trump, since you pretend you understand history…?
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You really think the 21st-century KKK would vote for the party who put an African-American President in office and attempted to put in a second one? Really?
Your biscuit’s still raw in the middle, son.
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FYI, the 21st century KKK currently calls itself “Turning Point USA.”
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You say that like conservatives these days aren’t being inspired by the same kind of beliefs in eugenics—including the forced sterilization of Black people—that drove the Nazi death machine. Or did you forget that conservatism is the home of more racists, queerphobes, antisemites, and other rank-ass bigots than the left wing of American politics has ever had? Seriously, dude, pick up a book that isn’t Mein Kampf.
Abortion is a medical procedure and (scientifically speaking) a fetus, up to the point of outside-the-womb viability, is not actually a child and therefore can’t be murdered. And I thought someone like you, who professes a belief in conservative ideals and ideology, would be all for preventing government overreach by way of controlling what people can and can’t do with their bodies.
Oh, and by the by, here’s a fun little yes-or-no for you to think about: If a pregnant person finds out late in their pregnancy that they have a health condition that would make delivering their child a likely death sentence, should that person be forced by law to give birth—regardless of the health of the fetus—even if the likelihood of that person dying as a result of giving birth is high? And if your answer is “yes”: If that person aborts their fetus to save her own life, should the state arrest, prosecute, and (upon conviction) execute for first-degree murder that person, the doctor who aborted the fetus, and maybe even the person’s partner if they co-agreed to go along with the abortion?
Given your support of ICE, I didn’t think you’d have a problem with fewer people of color in this world, so why act like you have a problem with the idea now if you’re not launching a cynical ploy to hide your own blatant racism?
And yet, your ideas are so paper-thin that you can’t defend them without deflections to “but what about Biden” or “the Dems are the real racists”. Speaking of which:
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Also, I note that you didn’t answer the questions from my previous post: How many American citizens do you believe the President should order the American military to kill so he can achieve his ideal order in Minnesota, and how many state and local leaders do you believe he should have killed and replaced with hand-picked subordinates who will answer to him instead of the people of Minnesota?
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Is it murder when the federal government abruptly pulls funding from programs which leads to the deaths of millions of children? Genocide? Negligent homicide? Oopsies? “Those welfare kids should get a job! Bootstraps!”?
You only (pretend to) care about the unborn because they’re a convenient puppet. Trump’s agents are tear gassing children. Would you protest that?
What about when the federal government is violating Constitutional rights (you know the other ones besides the 2nd?) and violating court orders? The Supreme Court has already ruled that immigrants have due process rights, which are being violated by ICE and CBP agents.
5th Amendment. The right to due process. Life, liberty, and property. A woman’s body is her own property, including an attached fetus that can’t survive outside her body until ~24 weeks.
Any law that pretends the fetus is a person with full rights hasn’t read the Constitution. Rights are assigned by the founding document at birth, not conception. Any law that doesn’t allow for abortion in the event that the mother’s life is at risk leads to a 5th Amendment violation.
There are more amendments than just the 2nd.
I’ll just say it. If you are part of the armed services and you turn your gun on your fellow americans then I hope you hang like like the traitor you are.
They think this is a lot of protesters?
Its the middle of winter, misery cold outside.
Wait for spring if you want to see grassroots actions, cause these fascist goons ain’t seen nothing yet.
I suspect there may be other reasons the DoD is deploying the Arctic Angels, and that Hegseth may have another destination in mind for them.
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Then to expand on Anon the First’s point, if you are part of the armed forces and you turn your gun on our allies, then I hope you hang like the traitor you are. Hegseth needs to swing alongside you too.
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He’s going to send the troops out to look for sexy furniture for J.D. Vance?
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No, that’s what the IKEA Infantry is for.
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Yeah, turns out Trump can’t tell Sweden apart from Denmark either.
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On his map the space up between Canada and Russia is just a blob labeled “Whites (Other)”
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Well, considering where the Arctic Angels are stationed and considering we are talking about Hegseth, he probably has a surprise attack on Russia’s strategic Vodka reserves in planning.
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No need to attack when the Russian consulate is probably getting vodka delivered to Hegseth daily, with fancy scripted thank you notes expressing appreciation for doing a better job at ruining America than the Russians have ever managed to do.
And soon, with Kristi Noem and Convicted Felon Donald Trump, a fascist attack as fucked up as 9/11 will start.
Donald Trump is the new Osama bin Laden.
Just in case some takes it unironically, that’s a myth that Trump paid ghostwriters to create in “Trump: The Art of the Deal” and a couple of “sequels”. Ghostwriters and publishers have claimed that Trump didn’t write a word, and apart from specifying some general themes, had basically nothing to do with the writing or editing. Even some of the “deals” described in these books are believed to be dramatizations, at best, or near-complete fabrications.
Other people have done calculations to show that Trump would’ve done better, financially, by simply investing all gifted and inherited money in index funds (once they became widely available), and then doing no “business” at all for the next 40 years.
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The man failed at running a casino. Casinos literally run on the “house always wins” principle, and he still couldn’t turn a profit with one. How anyone thinks he’s a master businessman when he’s really a fail-upwards dipshit with good lawyers and better PR people is beyond my understanding.
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Well, no, not that either. See Guiliani:
…and Cohen:
Both quoted blocks are from Wikipedia. And Techdirt’s been writing for the past year about all the court cases Trump lawyers have been losing recently; as I recall, in some cases the courts decided they weren’t technically lawyers at all.
As for good PR, that was once true, but I don’t think anybody’s even really trying anymore. They just talk, until journalists realize there’s no chance the actual questions will be answered.
“Fail-upwards”—in terms of status, yes; but in financial terms, as stated, not really.
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Oh it’s so much better/funnier, I believe he managed to crater something like six casinos so he didn’t fail at running a casino, a business that’s the equivalent of a legal way to print money, he failed at running multiple casinos.
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My opinion of 47 came from having lived in NJ late 70s as he arrived in a declining Atlantic City promising to build up the boardwalk area with the state legalizing casino gambling, then seeing him stiff his suppliers & contractors for the building work, then walk away only a few years later having tanked them all, leaving all the people once again looking for jobs.
That he hasn’t managed to end up living under a bridge in a cardboard box by now astounds me…
irony
In 1943 the NAZIs lost in Russia due to the insanely cold winter. Wouldnt that just be cake if they lost again because they couldnt handle Minnesota?
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Buddy, the people who you simply disagree with politically are not “nazis”. You sound really stupid everytime you say that.
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What about the masked goons terrorizing the populace? Or the people arming them? Or the government turning the military loose on people who don’t want to be violently repressed? Or the people appropriating nazi imagery and slogans? You know the ones that say America is just for white people.
Are that Nazi enough?
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You sound really stupid when you assume the only reason they call them “nazis” is because they have political disagreements and not because they exhibit:
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When people involved use the actual Nazi salute, that doesn’t help either.
On the other hand, these modern Nazis are not even pretending to be socialist, unlike the original ones (who weren’t socialists, but pretended in an effort to mask their contempt for the common people).
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I bet you also believe “there are good people on both sides.”
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No, I think only the people on the conservative side are Good.
Democrats are the party of violence, evil, hateful, super racist, for the most part. The rest are just incredibly dumb.
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And herein you masterfully demonstrate the difference in conservative thought versus the thoughts of people with critical analysis skills.
I personally judge people by their actions. Trump is a fascist because he applies fascist tactics as we have enumerated multiple times. It’s not just that he says racist things like Somalis have a low IQ, but also that he literally sends armed thugs to terrorize and persecute them and send them to camps and detention centers.
You, like many conservatives, judge people by who you have decided (or been told as is usually the case) they are. So you see a person who is not conservative, an evil other, and you assign all your associated propaganda to them. They’re hateful, evil, racist, blue haired, LGBTQ, [insert other Fox News propaganda here], etc. They commit voter fraud and support open borders and want the white race to get replaced and they’re all communists and atheists and muslims, even if many of those are mutually exclusive. It’s a great system if you want simplistic sports team mentality. You don’t have to think hard if everything is so cut and dry. And this type of thinking is why you’ll believe trans people are a threat to children despite a lack of evidence but you’ll give a pass to a conservative Christian pastor who molests children, because the latter is on your team. Hell, you’ve hitched your horse to a rapist who is using the government to cover up his human trafficking and exploitation ring. But Trump is “a good person” so anything that contradicts that “truth” is either a lie or forgiveable, no matter how much evidence is presented in support of it. But the evidence doesn’t matter because you’ll demonstrate your faith in the team by not even educating yourself and looking into it. Which is why you parrot the propaganda about it rather than speak from any actual first hand knowledge.
I appreciate you laying these things out so clearly for us.
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They’re the kind of person who could follow Trump in person as he murders a 15-year-old Black child on Fifth Avenue via gunshot to the head, then immediately say “well obviously he had it coming to him, I’m sure he did something to deserve it, and anyway Trump didn’t actually kill him because that was just an AI hologram projection” in Trump’s defense.
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That behavior seems to stem from the empathy deficiency disease that separates conservatives from humans.
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Remind me: Which political party has members who’ve been in the company of, and even consider themselves friends of, noted right-wing extremist Nick Fuentes? Which political party tried to excuse the killing of Renee Good with “she should’ve followed orders from the cops” but decried the killing of Ashli Babbitt even though she didn’t follow orders from the cops? Which political party currently represents the political ideology most closely aligned with the kind of explicit bigotry that inspired the Nazis and their Holocaust?
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When those people walk, talk, and act like fascists, it’s fair to call them as such. Given that Trump has expressed a desire to invade a foreign nation with the US military and annex it as an American territory, I’d say he’s well past the point where you can reasonably deny his fascism. And as for his cronies? The only reason Stephen Miller won’t admit he’s a fascist is because he still wants one last shred of plausible deniability that he can hang onto.
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Buddy, just because you don’t actually know what a fascist or Nazi is doesn’t mean other people using the term are as ignorant as you.
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Buddy, no one here claimed that people who disagree are Nazis. That’s just another lie morons like yourself use to distance yourself from valid critcism.
As you say, you sound really stupid every time you say that.
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A hit dog sure does holler, tho’.
I’d like to see the protests moved to Frostbite Falls.
It’s pretty depressing how weak the democrat language on it is. Most of the Democratic Party isn’t even willing to say ICE is the enemy. Tim Walz’ messaging makes it sound like they’re bungling around and inadvertently causing harm, not that they’re an active, invading and occupying army deliberately trying to make an example of his state and cities.
What’s the point of voting for a democrat who won’t commit to abolishing ICE?
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Yes, what’s the point. The question asked by people who can only complain when things goes to shit because they asked the same question the last election.
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Support a Democrat who runs on the issues you feel are important.
Vote for whoever isavailable who won’t make things worse.
Don’t not vote.
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As someone who is a registered independent: This is the way. When you vote in the primaries, you vote for who you want to see in the general election, even if they end up dropping out. When you vote in the general election, you vote for damage control—and that means voting Democrat (or third party in places where that’s actually a viable option).
Fruit loops...
I never thought to compare Trump to Custer. Kudos! This makes a lot of sense. I had always wondered about Custer when watching the movie Little Big Man. Then, I read the book Son of the Morning Star by Evan S. Connell.
Wow! Fruit cakes, nuts, fruit loops, etc…
Every Minnesota resident gets a free Luigi Mangione perp walk
I read the numbers correctly the first time. The second time I read them, my brain auto-“corrected” the numbers to 5-10. Retaining the absurdities of reality becomes harder every day, or maybe this is a sign that I am a perfect fit for president of the United States.
Todd Lyons, I feel that you should be aware that some snake is signing your body to stupid interviews. Thank you for your attention to this matter!
Paper-thin lies
If you cowards can’t arrest someone when faced with the combined forces of whistles and GTFO shouts without assembling half a platoon, you’re definitely in the wrong business.
Their ‘need’ to assemble a dozen plus goons to kidnap one person exposes their cowardice to be sure, but perhaps more importantly it shows that the public isn’t buying the regime’s lies that it’s only going after ‘the worst of the worst’.
If they were actually going after violent criminals the public would likely be cheering them on and supporting them, so the fact that instead they’re facing nationwide protests shows that the public knows damn well that the regime is merely trying to cull the population of brown people and engage in some good old government sanctioned terrorism in an attempt to silence and suppress dissent.
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A few days ago, I came across a TikTok user who does, like, online call-in political debates or whatever and she kept posing a specific question to conservatives who called her: If conservatives get their way, what would change about day-to-day life in 15 years? (If you pay attention to my comments, you will have seen me offer up this same question on this site a few days ago.) Without fail, none of them offer up any tangible changes—they always talk about “crime is going to be lower” and “we’re going to be better off”, but they never actually say things like, say, “people are going to have lower energy costs because clean energy will be everywhere”.
That leads me to two conclusions about conservatism, and neither of them speak well of the ideology and its adherents:
One of those changes in Point 2 is easy to figure out from all the shit going on with ICE and all the white supremacist propaganda coming from the Trump regime: fewer Black and brown folks in the US population to “reverse” the so-called Great Replacement of white Americans by people of color. But you won’t hear Trump supporters admit to wanting that unless they’re either in a conservative-friendly safe space or they’re so far right that they don’t give a fuck who knows how racist they are.
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The bigotry and being too cowardly to own it is certain to be a significant factor in their inability to answer that question with any amount of specificity but I suspect an even bigger factor is that they literally have not thought that far. They’re so obsessed with sticking it to the libs/minorities/woke and have so much of their self-identities based upon pure spite and cruelty that they simply don’t care what happens that far out so long as the people they hate are suffering now, and it never even occurs to them to ask themselves if their support for hate and suffering might possibly impact them down the line too.
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Also worth noting about the vagueness of their replies: They think in terms of results instead of processes. They say “crime will be lower”, but they never say how crime rates will be lowered. They say “healthcare will be better”, but they never say how healthcare will be improved. Those things will just…you know, happen. Compare that to a liberal/leftist/progressive’s answer, which would be to actually lay out an policy idea with specific results in mind but centering the policy itself. Like, if a progressive wants to talk about where clean energy will be in 15 years, they’re not going to say “it’ll be so dominant”—they’re going to lay out actual policies and processes that would increase our clean energy options and reduce our reliance on fossil fuels (e.g., “we’ll build more wind and solar farms by offering tax breaks and subsidies for clean energy investments”). And when confronted with any potential issues or consequences with those policies, they’ll typically address them and try to correct for those issues; compare that to conservatives, who typically insist that their (concepts of) plans will just magically work with no issues or unforeseen consequences. Some of that is due to the lack of long-term thinking (as you pointed out), but some of it is just a blind faith—practically a religious belief in and of itself—in conservatism being so “correct” that it will naturally succeed without anything “going wrong”. Anything that does go wrong is everyone else’s fault for not “doing it right”.
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They plan to physically beat their wishes into reality. Doing violence is magic on a religious level.
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For rank and file members, conservativism is grievance culture and ego-shoring. They’re scared. They’re angry. And they want reassurance. They want to be on a winning team. They want someone to pay. They don’t imagine how to make things better because that’s someone else’s job. They’re not problem-solvers. They want to just shoot problems. Have cops remove “the problems.” Pay someone to take care of it.
And if you talk to them using words other than what they’ve heard from Fox News criticizing liberals and leftists, you can often get them to agree that leftist ideals are a good idea. You just have to rebrand it all with words like Patriot Care and American Education First and Freedom Stipends.
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I saw a TikTok video yesterday that suggested much the same thing.
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I mean, that’s (at least nominally) kind of conservatism’s whole thing? Standing athwart history yelling “stop”, as Bill Buckley put it.
Conservatism is supposed to be about preserving the status quo.
Of course, the conservatism we’ve got now is actually incredibly disruptive of the status quo, and that’s because fundamentally the status quo they’re most concerned with preserving is a rigid social hierarchy with cishet white Protestant men at the top, and they’re willing to burn everything down to make sure that people know their place.
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Instead, it’s often about changing the status quo back to some grand-yet-fiction paradise which happens to coincide with how a conservative viewed the world in childhood (including how the pop culture of their day influenced their views). Fascism is bred exclusively from conservatism precisely because conservatism, like fascism in its most extreme form, wants to blame the problems of the present on changes made in the past. (There’s a reason the tagline is “Make American Great Again”, after all.) Conservatism isn’t about preservation or progress—it’s about regressing society as a whole to an earlier, better-for-everyone time that doesn’t exist outside of a false nostalgia that is often poisoned by blatant bigotry. The Nazis promised to return Germany to its former glory, and all they did when they assumed power was become barbarians who murdered millions of people based almost entirely on the personal grievances of a shithead antisemite who couldn’t paint to save his life. The ideology of conservatism is, in a nutshell, the Primal Theory (as per Genndy Tartakovsky’s Primal) applied to politics; fascism is merely its final regression—and its true nature.
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Oh man, that reminds me, I really need to check out the new season.
…well, after I finish the first one. And then the second one. But god damn is Primal good.