Evil ICE Fucks Ate Lunch At A Mexican Restaurant Just So They Could Come Back And Detain The People Who Fed Them

from the bitchass-government dept

Do you still want to cling to this pretense, Trump supporters? Do you still want to pretend ICE efforts are targeting “the worst of the worst?” Are you just going to sit there and mumble some incomprehensible stuff about “respecting the laws?”

Go ahead. Do it, you cowards. This is exactly what you voted for, even if it now makes you a bit queasy. Just sit there and soak in it. You are who you support, even if you never thought it would go this far.

“Worst of the worst,” Trump’s parrot repeat on blast. “This one time we caught a guy who did actual crimes,” say spokespeople defending whatever the latest hideous violation of the social contract (if not actual constitutional rights) a federal agent has performed. “Targeted investigation/stop” say the enablers, even when it’s just officers turning white nationalism into Official Government Policy. “Brown people need to be gone” is the end game. Full stop.

Here’s where we’re at in Minnesota, where ICE officers are being shamed into retreat on the regular, punctuated by the occasional revenge killing of mouthy US citizens.

I don’t want you MAGA freaks to tell me you’re OK with this. I want you to tell me why.

Federal agents detained three workers from a family-owned Mexican restaurant in Willmar, Minn., on Jan. 15, hours after four agents ate lunch there.

Does that seem innocuous? Does this seem like some plausible deniability is in play here? Well, disabuse yourself of those notions. This is how it went down.

The arrest happened around 8:30 p.m. near a Lutheran church and Willmar Middle School as agents followed the workers after they closed up for the night. A handful of bystanders blew whistles and shouted at agents as they detained the people. “Would your mama be proud of you right now?” one of the bystanders asked.

Nice. Is this what you want from a presidential administration? Or would you rather complain ICE officers have been treated unfairly if people refuse to feed or house them, knowing full well that doing either of these things will turn their employees into targets.

To be sure, the meal wasn’t a meal. It was half-stakeout, half-intimidation.

An eyewitness who declined to give a name for fear of retribution, told the Minnesota Star Tribune that four ICE agents sat in a booth for a meal at El Tapatio restaurant a little before 3 p.m. Staff at the restaurant were frightened, said the eyewitness, who shared pictures from the restaurant as well as video of the arrest.

I’m not saying ICE officers shouldn’t be able to eat at ethnic restaurants. I am, however, saying that they definitely shouldn’t because everyone is going to think the officers are there for anything but the food. And I do believe any minority business owner should be able to refuse service to ICE officers who wander in under the pretense of buying a meal. The end result is going to be the same whether or not you decide to engage with this pretense. You’re getting raided either way. May as well deny them the meal.

Especially if ICE and the DHS are just going to lie about what happened. Here’s what eyewitnesses, business owners, and local journalists said about this display of ICE shittiness:

El Tapatio Mexican Restaurant closed after WCCO confirmed agents visited the spot for lunch and later returned, detaining its owners and a dishwasher nearby after they had closed early due to the federal law enforcement’s previous appearance.

And here’s the DHS statement, which pretends ICE officers didn’t eat a meal at a restaurant and then return a few hours later to detain employees when they left the building:

“On January 14, ICE officers conducted surveillance of a target, an illegal alien from Mexico. Officers observed that the target’s vehicle was outside of a local business and positively identified him as the target while inside the business. Following the positive identification of the target, officers then conducted a vehicle stop later in the day and apprehended the target and two additional illegal aliens who were in the car, including one who had a final order of removal from an immigration judge.”

Nope. I don’t care what the ICE apologists will say about this. These narratives have places where they overlap but it’s impossible to believe this went down exactly like the government said it did. These officers picked out an ethnic restaurant, were served by an intimidated staff, and then hung around to catch any stragglers leaving the business that previously had graciously served them, despite the threat they posed.

Abolish ICE. It’s no longer just a catchy phrase to shout during protests. It’s an imperative. If we don’t stop it now, it will only become even worse and even more difficult to remove. Treat ICE like the tumor it is. Pretending its MRSA gives it more power than it should ever be allowed to have.

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Pseudonymous Lurker says:

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If you wear a balaclava and lack any identification and try to haul me out of my vehicle without a warrant or any explanation while your goosestepping fuckbuddies brandish rifles behind you I’m going to grab my friday night special and do my level best to blow your goddamn brains out, because the law allows me to defend myself with equivalent force against what I will reasonably perceive as a threat to my life and liberty from a criminal gang of kidnappers, and my grandfather taught me right how to deal with Nazi cunts like these cosplayers pretending to be “law enforcement.”

You want to know how ICE could manage to be justified and actually on the right side of the law here? Take the masks off. Get warrants. Act as the public servants that they’re theoretically supposed to be.

Stop fucking murdering and kidnapping and maiming people and making the entire rest of the goddamn world rightly look at us as the metastasizing rise of the Fourth Reich.

Anonymous Coward says:

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But why though? What harm are they causing?

And before you “boo hoo my taxes” I want you to think about how much money massive corporations have and how much, by extension, they’ve stolen from the public and their workers over the years. Then try and tell me with a straight face that immigrants are the problem.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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And when the people who work for sub-minimum wages are all deported, do you think Americans are going to do the jobs those deported people worked for the same sub-minimum wages? Because I don’t think Americans are going to do those jobs for anything less than a minimum wage, and that’s not going to be something the capitalists that paid sub-minimum wages for those jobs (and whose profits would be cut into by paying higher wages) will actually want to do.

Like it or not⁠—and I don’t⁠—this country runs on capitalists exploiting an underclass of people who deserve far better pay and a pathway to legal citizenship. You take away that underclass and those capitalists won’t be the only ones who suffer. But you keep telling yourself that getting rid of all the brown people⁠—and only the brown people, since I doubt you have any problem with white immigrants who’ve overstayed their visas being left alone⁠—will actually Make America Great Again.

Incidentally: If you and your right-wing brethren were to fully control the federal government and get your way over the next 15 years, how do you believe that will that tangibly change day-to-day life for Americans by the time the 20th of January 2041 rolls around?

Anonymous Coward says:

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And when the people who work for sub-minimum wages are all deported,

Whelp, democrats are whining about Republicans getting rid of their slaves, again. Making up bullshit economic reasons why the slaves were required. (and yes, it was Democrats crying “southern strategy” doesn’t change that)

They can pay an American a fair wage or use robots, but it doesn’t matter, the law is the law.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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democrats are whining about Republicans getting rid of their slaves, again

In case you didn’t notice, I said that I don’t like how underpaid migrant workers (undocumented or otherwise) are being exploited by capitalists who use sub-minimum wages and desperate migrants to boost profit margins. My point⁠—which you intentionally missed⁠—was that even though I don’t like it, that is the reality on the ground. Changing that reality by either deporting those workers or making them afraid to work will cause issues with the industries those workers are involved with, most notably the agricultural industry. If you think food prices are high now, wait until companies jack up prices even more to keep their profit margins intact while also paying the wages that most Americans would ask to be paid for working the jobs that migrants paid less than minimum wage would otherwise be working. And again: I’m not happy that they’re being exploited, but reality doesn’t change because I’m not happy with it.

And I’ll notice that, for all your whining about slavery and your continued intentional ignorance of the realignment of the two major political parties in the wake of the Civil Rights Movement, you haven’t actually decried the use of underpaid migrant workers. All you’ve done is whine about brown people needing to get the fuck out of America.

Anonymous Coward says:

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That’s the neat part.

Once they have deported close to another 10 million people they are going to ramp up the private prison-industrial complex and essentially revive slave labor.

Specifically off of people they identify as liberal or whoever else annoys the wrong local conservative politician, church or tech bro.

The economic inefficiency will be off the charts but they want to look at the prison system in Louisiana and expand that slowly under twisted pretenses until the mask is fully off.

They just need the mask a little longer until the deportations are done and then problematic US citizens, the remaining white vote opposed to them, will be openly enslaved.

Increasingly the MLK Jr. playbook of general strikes to bring the economy to a halt isn’t going to work either because even if the Democratic Party shuts the government down until everything is reversed and forces billionaires to pay law enforcement and the military out of pocket, you won’t be able to functionally resist or purge the fascists without turning the country into Afghanistan.

Things will probably be better in ten years but only if the opposition pulls its head out of its collective ass and starts planning beyond protesting and striking now, or else they are going right into that prison industrial complex.

TheCentralScrutinizer (profile) says:

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You have one fucked up idea of the law.
ICE are using gestapo tactics, pure and simple.
Please do explain how it’s OK to murder people in cold blood on the streets. Also explain how it’s OK to snatch people off the streets and disappear them to concentration camps. And while you’re at it, explain how it’s OK to snatch people off the streets just because they write an article that the government doesn’t agree with.
I’d love to see your twisted logic to explain all that.

Fuck you very much and all the people who think like you.

Anonymous Coward says:

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You should like, try to run over an LEO and see what happens.

Yeah, the stupid LEO gets hurt (or worse), and doesn’t learn anything from it because ICE hires only the dimmest and dumbest. Like Jonathan Ross of Minnesota – he’s a frequent flyer who thinks the laws of physics are optional. He’s also hiding because he’s scared shitless, and rightfully so – no quarter for murderers.

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Anonymous Coward says:

“Abolish ICE.”

Not just abolish ICE. But throw everyone involved in this behind bars. It must be the intention that all ICE agents who engaged in this never set foot in a free society again.

The last eight words were used to sentence that guy who shot up a movie theater in 2012 and was being sentenced to life without parole. Life without parole (or even the death penalty) is the most appropriate fate for these fucks.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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What you want is illegal.

Remind me: How old is ICE, again? And I don’t mean immigration law or whatever⁠—I mean the specific institution of Immigrations and Custom Enforcement as it exists today.

I was born well before ICE was ever a thing and I remember that this country was doing just fine before ICE. We did fine without it once; we can do fine without it again. What we want isn’t illegal⁠—it’s a reversion to a prior state of American greatness. Isn’t that what you people want, to Make America Great Again?

Or do you just want to see dead brown people?

Anonymous Coward says:

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I was born well before ICE was ever a thing and I remember that this country was doing just fine before ICE. We did fine without it once; we can do fine without it again.

People could also cross the U.S./Canada border much more freely, such as to access the Haskell Free Library or that U.S. gas station that’s only reachable via Canadian roads. At official crossings, people could just say they were Canadian or American with no documentation generally required. It worked fine, but that frog’s been boiling for 20 years with neither party talking about rolling things back. (Sure, one’s worse than the other, but why can’t there be a good one?)

While I hope we can go back to those days, people have grown to accept the recent situation as normal. At this point it might be more likely for Texas to install immigration checkpoints for people coming from the rest of America.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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No matter what, men with guns would have to do what they’re doing.

Tell me: How long do you think it’ll be before ICE kills another American citizen? And when it does inevitably happen, how long will you wait until you call for the extrajudicial execution of anyone associated with the murdered citizen, who will undoubtedly be painted as a “radical extremist” even if they were a Christian priest who was peacefully observing ICE activity and using their First Amendment right to speak freely and otherwise doing nothing to actually obstruct ICE?

Be honest with yourself. It’s what you want. You want people like me killed by ICE because we actually give a shit about things like due process and the Constitution and (worse yet) the lives of people whose skin color makes them targets of a racist government regime and its modern-day Gestapo. Just say so, man. I won’t think any less of you than I already do it you would just straight-up admit the truth.

Anonymous Coward says:

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What ICE is doing is legal. (virtuous, too, but you are free to disagree on that)

It’s so ‘legal and virtuous’ that they hide their faces in shame, rather than accept all the glory for what they’re doing and engrave their names in the history books as ‘the people who did all this good work.’

What I don’t understand is why they might think they’ll stay anonymous. There’s 6500+ names out there already, courtesy of the DEI hires at the Trump administration. And the Internet doesn’t forget.

Anonymous Coward says:

I don’t want you MAGA freaks to tell me you’re OK with this. I want you to tell me why.

You already know their talking points.

“Shouldn’t be here anyway! Law and order! (except on January 6th, the Emoluments clause, 4th Amendment, etc.)”

You’re not going to get a coherent worldview out of them, because they don’t have one. A conservative’s only value is sadism. Conservative politics are nothing more than an institutionalized cycle of abuse. Identity-protective cognition is part and parcel.

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Anonymous Coward says:

As a reminder, if you believe that it’s morally okay to do bad things to bad people because they deserve it, all it takes is one person to decide you’re a bad person, and they have moral carte blanche to do whatever they want to you. For self-preservation’s sake, you shouldn’t support bad things being done, even if they’re done to bad people.

(That’s referring to the people who support ICE bullying and intimidating their targets, BTW.)

That One Guy (profile) says:

The only taste they should get is a taste of their own medicine

I’m not saying ICE officers shouldn’t be able to eat at ethnic restaurants. I am, however, saying that they definitely shouldn’t because everyone is going to think the officers are there for anything but the food. And I do believe any minority business owner should be able to refuse service to ICE officers who wander in under the pretense of buying a meal. The end result is going to be the same whether or not you decide to engage with this pretense. You’re getting raided either way. May as well deny them the meal.

Any minority owned or run restaurant should give ICE the same treatment bigots use to refuse service to gay people: ‘My deeply held beliefs oblige me to not provide service to fascists and those that support them.’

If it’s good enough for the homophobic bigots it’s good enough for people with morals.

Anonymous Coward says:

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There is a troubling amount of bigotry by the same crybabies who say that “no one has the right to XYZ” and so forth. That being said, I agree with you and want to read more about why a baker refusing to serve a gay couple over “religious beliefs” is actually bigotry and NOT freedom of expression.

Getting sick and tired of bigots who claim otherwise.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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I … want to read more about why a baker refusing to serve a gay couple over “religious beliefs” is actually bigotry and NOT freedom of expression.

As you wish.

Let’s assume that a bakery open to the general public lists cupcakes on the menu of items offered to any customer that walks in the door. A customer can buy cupcakes that have already been decorated in a generic way at a reasonable price, but for an equally reasonable extra charge, a customer can buy cupcakes that are decorated according to a customer’s wishes (within reason). That bakery also happens to exist in a state where the law says that bakery can’t discriminate against people in specific protected classes, such that the bakery can’t refuse to sell items on its menu to a gay person because that person is gay. Put a pin in that point, because it’s going to be important in a moment.

Two customers walk into the bakery at separate times on a given day (let’s say one in the morning and one in late afternoon) and each want to buy some cupcakes. The first one wants a box of pre-decorated cupcakes and is openly signaling their queerness⁠—e.g., they’re wearing a Pride T-shirt⁠—so there is no mistaking that they’re gay. The second one, who is actually straight, wants a box of cupcakes with custom decorations that include a Pride flag. In both instances, the bakery refuses to sell both customers the product they want: with the first customer, the bakery refuses to sell the cupcakes at all; with the second customer, the bakery refuses to sell only the service of putting the custom decoration on the cupcakes. In both instances, when brought forth to a court in a lawsuit, the bakery’s owner cites their religious beliefs about queer people⁠—which includes citing all the usual “clobber verses” from the Bible⁠—in explaining why he made those two refusals.

Now, here’s the $64,000 question: Even though both decisions are driven by religious bigotry, what makes only one of them a clear-cut violation of the law?

The key here is a two-word phrase: “compelled speech”. The Constitution of the United States contains the First Amendment, which offers protection to all citizens against government intrusion into the right to express speech and ideas freely. That means the government generally can’t stop someone from expressing a shitty idea like “gay people don’t deserve to live” no matter how much a hell of a lot of people would love for the opposite to be true. On the flipside of that same coin, the government also generally can’t force (“compel”) people to express themselves in ways that violate their conscience; in practice, that means the government can’t force an anti-gay bigot to say “gay people deserve to live” even under threat of punishment.

The law says that when people are in a protected class under the law, a public-facing business (e.g., a bakery that is open to the general public) can’t discriminate against those people based on the trait that puts them in a protected class. If sexual orientation is such a trait, that means a public-facing business can’t refuse to sell to a gay person any good or service from its menu (literal or metaphorical) that it offers to straight customers. (And before you think to say it: Yes, the inverse holds true as well, because the law protects the majority as well as the minority even though the majority rarely needs such protections.) But one of the very few exceptions to that rule involves expressive speech. In general terms, the government can’t force the employees/owner of a business to express speech, even on behalf of a third party, that goes against their conscience. The details do matter, such as whether the business has a blanket policy against hate speech, but in broadly generalized terms, the law lets businesses refuse to express speech they otherwise wouldn’t. (Incidentally, this principle also comes into play with online spaces, as the law also allows a website to dump speech its owner doesn’t want to host on their site and do so without legal penalty.)

Our hypothetical bakery refusing to sell cupcakes to a gay customer because that customer is gay violates the law because those cupcakes⁠—which only have generic decorations⁠—were on offer to the general public and refused to a gay customer despite the law saying that gay customer is part of the general public. The bakery refusing to decorate the straight customer’s cupcakes with Pride flags likely wouldn’t be against the law because of protections against compelled speech⁠—and that would likely hold true even if the bakery admits to not putting those decorations on those cupcakes due to an anti-gay bias. Both acts, as laid out in my comment, would be an example of religious anti-gay bigotry. But one of them would (most likely) be legal because while the state can force a business to serve gay people (and with good reason), the state can’t force the owner of that business to say “gay people are great” even if they’re only saying it on behalf of someone else. Gay people are as much a part of the general public as anyone else, and as with people from other protected classes, they deserve the same treatment in open-to-the-public businesses as everyone else. But no one should have the right to compel pro-gay speech from anti-gay bigots.

…and I suspect you’ll ignore all this with “lol tl;dr” so you can wallow in the muck of your continued intentional ignorance. C’est la vie.

That One Guy (profile) says:

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That being said, I agree with you and want to read more about why a baker refusing to serve a gay couple over “religious beliefs” is actually bigotry and NOT freedom of expression.

Oh that’s simple: The two aren’t mutually exclusive, religiously motivated bigotry is still bigotry and even if someone may have the right to refuse to create a custom/creative order for a gay customer if the reason a store doesn’t treat a gay customer they same way they treat a straight one is because they’re gay congratulations, that’s bigotry.

OBEY OR DIE says:

A civil society is an obedient society

“I don’t want you MAGA freaks to tell me you’re OK with this. I want you to tell me why.”

Because government needs to be obeyed. Because to remove any crimes you must always report any suspected criminal behavior, even if it is just a stash of weed in a state where weed is not yet legal. Those filthy peons are messing with their rulers and they’re finding out that attacking their betters ends badly.

Civility in obedience.
Peace in conformity.
Unity in uniformity.
Do as you’ve been told. Obey the rules. Rise above the filth surrounding you.

Muhammad Said (profile) says:

This is honestly just gross. Imagine serving a table of guys who are literally just sitting there scouting you out while they eat your food. That’s not “law enforcement,” that’s just predatory behavior.

The “worst of the worst” line is such a joke when they’re targeting dishwashers and local business owners in small-town Minnesota. How does shutting down a family restaurant make anyone safer? It’s pure intimidation, plain and simple.

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