A Coup Is In Progress In America

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A coup is underway in the United States, and we must stop pretending otherwise. The signs are unmistakable and accelerating: in just the past 48 hours, Elon Musk’s DOGE commission has seized control of Treasury payment systems and gained unauthorized access to classified USAID materials, while security officials who followed protocols were removed. Career civil servants across agencies are being systematically purged for having followed legal requirements during previous administrations. The president openly declares he won’t enforce laws he dislikes, while Congress watches in complicit silence. This isn’t happening through tanks in the streets or soldiers at government buildings—it’s occurring through the systematic dismantling of constitutional governance and its replacement with a system of personal loyalty to private interests. Those who resist are being removed, while those who enable this transformation are being rewarded with unprecedented control over government functions. The time for euphemisms and careful hedging has passed. We are watching, in real time, the conversion of constitutional democracy into something darker and more dangerous. To pretend otherwise isn’t prudence—it’s complicity.

I understand why many Americans are hesitant to accept what’s happening—acknowledging the reality of a coup in progress is frightening. But we must confront the facts before us with clear eyes: Donald Trump and Elon Musk are systematically seizing control of the federal government’s machinery through plainly illegal means. They are violating civil service protections established by law, shuttering congressionally mandated agencies without authority, and subjecting career public servants to ideological purges.

When security officials are removed for following classification protocols, when private citizens gain unauthorized access to Treasury payment systems, when civil servants are punished for having participated in legally required training—these aren’t isolated incidents or normal policy changes. They represent the coordinated dismantling of constitutional governance and its replacement with a system of personal loyalty.

The machinery of government—the actual systems and institutions through which public authority flows—is being captured by private interests operating outside constitutional constraints. This is precisely what the Civil Service Reform Act was designed to prevent. These aren’t abstract concerns about democratic norms—these are concrete violations of specific laws designed to prevent exactly this kind of authoritarian capture of government functions.

This is an emergency, and it demands emergency response from every American with power or influence. The window for effective resistance narrows with each passing day. History will judge harshly those who had the capacity to resist but chose instead to wait and see how things develop. The time to act is now, before the mechanisms that would allow effective resistance are completely dismantled.

The American Constitution represents more than just a system of government—it embodies humanity’s greatest experiment in self-governance through reason and law rather than force and will. When the Founders established our constitutional republic, they created something unprecedented: a government bound by law rather than personal authority, where power flows through democratic institutions rather than individual whim. This inheritance, paid for with the blood of patriots from Lexington to Normandy, gave birth to the very idea of modern liberal democracy.

Now we watch as this precious inheritance is being systematically subjugated to the personal authority of Donald Trump and Elon Musk. The constitutional firebreaks designed to prevent the concentration of power—checks and balances, civil service protections, congressional oversight—are being dismantled not through revolution but through a calculated strategy of institutional capture. When private citizens gain control of Treasury systems, when security officials are removed for following classification protocols, when Congress abandons its constitutional duties, we’re witnessing the subordination of constitutional governance to personal power.

This isn’t just another political crisis—it’s an existential threat to the constitutional order that has secured human liberty for over two centuries. Every American who understands the value of this inheritance has a duty to resist its destruction. The Constitution doesn’t defend itself—it requires citizens willing to stand for the principles of democratic governance against those who would replace the rule of law with the rule of men.

There is a fundamental difference between partisan policy debates and what we’re witnessing now. When Republicans pass legislation on immigration, when they reform tax policy, when they push back against progressive cultural initiatives—this is the normal, healthy function of democratic governance. Elections have consequences, and the party in power has every right to advance its policy agenda through legal channels.

But what’s happening now exists in a different category entirely. When private citizens gain unauthorized access to Treasury payment systems, when security officials are removed for following classification protocols, when congressionally established agencies are illegally shuttered—these aren’t policy changes. They represent the systematic dismantling of the constitutional framework that makes policy debates possible in the first place.

Consider the profound difference: Opposing Democratic policies on taxation or immigration is legitimate political disagreement. Refusing to execute laws passed by Congress, removing civil servants for following legal requirements, and allowing private citizens to seize control of government functions represents an attack on constitutional governance itself. The former is about what policies we should have; the latter is about whether we’ll maintain a system where policy debates matter at all.

To conservatives who value our constitutional inheritance: This isn’t about advancing Republican policies or opposing Democratic ones. It’s about whether we’ll preserve the constitutional system that allows these debates to occur through democratic processes rather than personal decree. When we replace professional civil service with personal loyalty systems, when we ignore congressional mandates, when we allow private interests to seize control of government functions—we’re not winning political battles, we’re destroying the arena where those battles are meant to occur.

The voices of history echo through our present crisis with devastating clarity. Each American who gave their life to preserve constitutional democracy—from the blood-soaked fields of Gettysburg to the beaches of Normandy—did so with the faith that future generations would guard the precious gift of self-governance. They died not just to defeat specific enemies, but to ensure that government of the people, by the people, for the people would not perish from the earth.

Now, as we watch the systematic dismantling of constitutional governance—as private citizens seize control of government functions, as career civil servants are purged for following the law, as Congress abandons its duties—these sacrifices demand action from every American who understands what’s at stake. The transformation happening before our eyes—from a government bound by law to one bound by personal loyalty—is precisely what generations of Americans gave their lives to prevent.

This isn’t about partisan politics or policy preferences. This is about preserving the constitutional inheritance that makes American democracy possible at all. When we see security officials removed for protecting classified information, when we watch congressionally established agencies illegally shuttered, when we witness the machinery of government being captured by private interests—we’re seeing the unraveling of everything our fallen heroes died to protect.

The dead speak to us now with urgent clarity: The time for comfortable illusions has passed. Every American who values constitutional democracy must act to preserve it. Not tomorrow, not after the next election, but now—while the mechanisms for democratic resistance still exist. Our ancestors paid for our freedom with their blood. We dishonor their sacrifice if we surrender it through inaction.

Mike Brock is a former tech exec who was on the leadership team at Block. Originally published at his Notes From the Circus. Republished here with permission.

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David says:

What do you think this is about?

When we replace professional civil service with personal loyalty systems, when we ignore congressional mandates, when we allow private interests to seize control of government functions—we’re not winning political battles, we’re destroying the arena where those battles are meant to occur.

It is the whole point to destroy the arena. The Republican Party has not exactly been winning the popular vote a lot in the last decades. The reversal to populism and manipulated media and the total abandonment of decorum was their last bet (after going all-in on gerrymandering as well as buy-in into systematic racism in spite of being the party of Lincoln and Eisenhower) to get into control again, and they will not keep it by continuing to let people vote under a changing country.

Trump was their gift from heaven, a bull welcomed into the china shop by its befuddled owners.

The reason the Republican Party flocked to Trump was not in spite of January 6th but because of it. It was their chance to tell people “you know who you were voting for, so that is what you wanted.”

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Bill David says:

Re: Re: Re:2 Trump lost the popular vote

Trump won under 50% of popular vote.
He won only 1.5% more of the popular vote than Harris. Hardly a landslide, or a mandate, or a resounding victory. Not even a majority.

If you add up all the other presidential candidates, more Americans voted for ANYONE ELSE, not Trump.

The antiquated & outdated Electoral College is the only reason he won. A system that removes the power of the vote from much of our voters Shenanigans like bomb threats to polling places & ballot drop off boxes fires in swing states have raised questions that need to now be revisited based on current treasonous actions of Trump & Musk & other Republicans.

Something very rotten in going on in Washington.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Freedom or fascism.

Paul Revere, our national guard and marines needs to take control of government. Sorry to say so but we need a pause right now and investigate this and revamp. The Excutive branch needs to stand down, the coup needs to be investigated. The truths need to be revield, Musk needs deported or confined until this is iron out.
Basically we need Thomas Jefferson and Madison to rise up and turn this over to honest hard working Americans. Or Paul Revere will ride again.

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frankcox (profile) says:

When someone shows you who they are

Two quotes for everyone to ponder.

“When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.” Maya Angelou

“Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.” H. L. Mencken.

Neither of these quotations were made yesterday or even the day before.

And I’m pretty sure everyone saw who Trump was the first time.

And the American people voted for this.

I’m not American, I don’t live there, and I could see this coming. Couldn’t you?

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Thad (profile) says:

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Some of us did.

Some of us did and voted for it on purpose.

And some of us didn’t, largely because the major news sources that are supposed to tell us what’s going on have been captured or closed.

The part that gets me is, every single person who voted for Trump in 2024 (or was eligible to vote but stayed home) lived through his first term. I just don’t understand how that many people decided yep, I could go for more of that.

The ones who are actively evil at least I understand. It’s the ones who are indifferent that really make me lose heart.

“I mean, say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude; at least it’s an ethos.”

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Thad (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:2

Again, I understand the cult just fine.

It’s the people who are indifferent that I just don’t get.

Like, I understand not liking the Democrats. They’re giving us an object lesson in how much they fucking suck right this very minute. But how fucking delusional do you have to be to think there’s no difference between a Harris administration and this?

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Ngita (profile) says:

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Since we will probably never have a Harris administration we cant know for sure. But hey the word coup is being thrown out there. Someone may act on it.

But we can suspect that a Harris Adminstration would have its own issues. it probably would have been like the biden administration but more extreme.

I would consider this a lesson to the elite democrats that they need to pay attention to who they put forward it is not just a game of tic tak toe.

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That One Guy (profile) says:

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The part that gets me is, every single person who voted for Trump in 2024 (or was eligible to vote but stayed home) lived through his first term. I just don’t understand how that many people decided yep, I could go for more of that.

For those that voted for him it’s say it’s because they are terrible and/or terribly stupid people, who either voted for him because of the suffering he promised to inflict on those they hated(and are only now suffering voter’s remorse for after realizing that suffering includes them), and/or because they believed the empty words of a pathological liar about how this time he’d ‘fix everything, pinky-promise’.

And on the other side for those that sat on their asses it’s because they fell for the second dumbest lie in US history(the first being ‘The 2020 election was stolen, no you can’t see our evidence just trust us’), the ‘Both sides are equally bad so there’s no point in voting at all’ lie.

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David says:

Re: Re: Re:2 That's when you think you are better than history

Couldn’t happen to us because we are different.

Just look at January 6th in context with the Beer Hall Putsch.

Hitler actually served time for that and still made it into the position of a Reichskanzler from which he destructed the democratic structures he was appointed to serve. The National Socialist Seizure of Control and disabling of all checks and balances of the Republic in the name of national interests is pretty much what is happening right now in the U.S.

But at least the Trumpists are not wearing ugly brown shirts. Hooray.

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That One Guy (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:2

The two ‘sides’ of my comment were ‘Those that voted for convicted felon Trump directly’, and ‘Those that sat on their asses and didn’t vote at all'(a group I would also lump tantrum/third-party voters in with), and no, I hold nothing but contempt for both of them, with the only difference being what flavor of contempt I hold them in and what category I’d place them in, ‘terrible’ or/or ‘terribly stupid.’

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Maura says:

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“The part that gets me is, every single person who voted for Trump in 2024 (or was eligible to vote but stayed home) lived through his first term. I just don’t understand how that many people decided yep, I could go for more of that.“

People aren’t always good at remembering the past as it actually was or thinking ahead to future issues. One thing that absolutely flabbergasted me was voting for Trump or not voting at all as a “protest” against the war in Palestine. Like do you guys not remember the Muslim ban? Do you not remember Trump recognizing Jerusalem the capital against the wishes of the Palestinians? Like what good did they think that “protest” vote was going to do for Palestine? Now Trump is saying that there is no guarantee the ceasefire (that his envoy helped negotiate) will hold up AND has seriously asked the governments of Egypt and Qatar about clearing out Palestine. Like yup. Good one, guys, you really showed the Biden administration what’s what.

That One Guy (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re: Well, they got what they wanted I suppose, no President Harris...

I’m reminded of the Palestinians for Trump that kept showing up at Harris rallies to heckle her for ‘not doing enough’, and the terrible defense for that I’d see raised in the comment section.

‘Why aren’t they going after Trump instead of Harris?’

‘Because they know he wouldn’t listen.’

So they’re going after a candidate that might be convinced to side with them when she attains office and has that power, rather than the candidate that they know isn’t and won’t.

Brilliant.

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TKnarr (profile) says:

Trump’s and Musk’s antics are one of the reasons the professional civil service, hired based on qualifications rather than connections to elected/appointed officials and relatively immune to being disciplined or terminated for any reason other than good cause, was created. It forces the President to start at the top, appointing the heads of departments and agencies and then issuing policy directives through those heads that then flow down through the bureaucracy. That forces the whole process to be visible to the public, Congress and the courts, and slows things down enough that nobody can just walk in and change things over a weekend before Congress or the courts can object. We implemented this because we’d had a civil service where the President appointed every single bureaucrat and could replace them at will and it didn’t work.

And for anyone trying to claim we need to guard against the bureaucrats ignoring the President’s policies because they don’t like them, go back and read the bit about “other than good cause”. Once policies are in place, refusing to follow them absolutely is good cause to fire someone under the professional civil service system.

Axelrod Gunarson says:

Re: I told you so

I’ve been saying this is how Trump will be for years. But since he’s there and there’s nothing I can do about it anymore, I’m just gonna sit back and let it happen. When shit hits the fan it hits everyone, so I’ve no doubt it will affect me at some level, but not the same as many of those conned into voting for him. Agree with you AC. This is just a rehash of history so “I’m taking this loop off” (bonus points if you can guess where that’s from)

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Koby (profile) says:

Clamoring

I understand why many Americans are hesitant to accept what’s happening

It isn’t that we are hesitant to acknowledge what it happening. Rather, we are cheering these reforms to a corrupt bureaucracy. Fake claims about a lack of security clearances by the audit team will no longer hold us back. Dramatic pearl clutching that billions of people will die unless the funding continues unabated will not give us pause. USAID was created through the fiat of executive order, and can be audited and abolished by executive order.

We ARE going to pay attention to the man behind the curtain.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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Well, since you voted for Trump, and you say that everything for which you can lay responsibility on him is what you voted for…well, I guess you want him to enact tariffs so you can spend more money than you have to on groceries. Say, has attempting to dismantle USAID at the behest of a billionare lowered the price of eggs lately?

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Matthew M Bennett says:

Re: Re: Re:2

The tariff thing is working out pretty well, pay attention.

Biden killed off 100 million chickens just before he left office, how long do you figure it takes a new hen to grow up? (psst, it’s something like 20 weeks) Y’know we laugh at you everytime you yap about eggs, right? It’s the stupidest thing, and you act like you’re saying something smart.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:3

The tariff is working out so well that Trump has pissed off two of our biggest allies/trading partners, and then FREAKED THE FUCK OUT, when people pointed out how bad this was going to be for the American economy (you saw the market tank, right?). Then he called up both leaders, and “delayed” the tariffs for 30 days (we’ll see if they ever come back) after they “promised” him they would do the same thing they both announced last year with Joe Biden.

And then Trump claims victory, and absolute sucker idiots like you think he won?

They literally said “hey we’re going to secure the border” and repeated the agreements THAT WERE PUBLICLY ANNOUNCED IN THE PAST, including the deal that Trudeau announced WITH BIDEN. And Trump said “I did that.”

My goodness.

Teka says:

Re: Re: Re:3

Biden killed that many chickens?
Wow, people said he was some kind of frail puppet-robot but if he’s got that kind of hunger and energy than maybe he should be president again!

Oh… wait… you mean Biden didn’t personally sprint from chicken house to chicken house, farm to farm, biting off the heads of chickens three at a time but instead you are referring to the accepted and usual, if unfortunate, culling of flocks to try and squash the spread of avian flu in birds, other farm animals and even humans?

Why would you use prejudicial language when describing something so remote from the actual person of the sitting president at that moment?

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Matthew M Bennett says:

Re: Re: Re:2

Actually, the ability of the legislative branch (“laws”) to control the executive branch is pretty limited. Part of that “checks and balances”. Each branch has their powers. Everything that has been done is completely within the executive branch and btw, completely legal.

Your ignorance is not an argument.

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Strawb (profile) says:

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Musk has the security clearances required, and was asked to do this work by the President of the United States. It’s about as “authorized” as you can get. It’s not “illegal” just because you dislike it.

Checks and balances is a thing, you colossal nitwit.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Musk was asked to do this work by the President.

It is against the law to work for the Federal government without compensation. Trump may have asked Musk and granted security clearances. Still, Musk’s team cannot operate on Federal real estate without a compensation agreement, either as an employee or a contractor. I don’t believe the President can approve a contract without following procedure. What Musk and the kiddies are doing is illegal!

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Anonymous Coward says:

Half the country wants what’s happening to happen. How can we oppose what the voters asked for, even if the result is that we lose the freedoms that men and women have died for (including 50,000 men and women from my generation)? No elected Republican is going to oppose anything Trump does. What we need to be asking is who, besides the Trump family, stands to profit from this chaos. There are a lot of people in the wings cheering for the destruction. Why?

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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There are a lot of people in the wings cheering for the destruction. Why?

It’s a 50/50 thing. Half of them want shit to get worse because they want an excuse to kickstart the Rapture. Half of them want shit to get worse because of accelerationism/the desire to break the government apart and rebuild it in the name of either Christian nationalism, capitalist greed, or both.

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That One Guy (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re: Failing the most important test of their lives due to pettiness or laziness

I have no problem lumping those that sat on their asses, or those that cast tantrum votes in with those that voted directly for convicted felon Trump.

They had their chance to stop the ongoing disaster and decided that nah, they were going to sit this one out, and now everyone that’s not already obscenely wealthy gets to enjoy the pain and suffering.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:2

there’s a pretty big difference between “voted for Trump” and “voted for Trump to let Elon shut down large parts of the US gov’t without authority.”

While some idiots may have voted for that, most did not.

If it had not been Musk, it would have been someone else.
Project 2025 was well known, and Trump’s denials threadbare, long before the election.

You don’t vote for a specific leopard, you vote for the leopard’s party.

David says:

Re: Re: Re:3

They don’t get to vote for the party with plans, in writing, to turn America into something resembling Nazi Germany and then pretend that’s not what they did.

The alternative for them was voting for the party turning the U.S. into a playfield for an invasion of alien transsexual predators eating their children after taking their guns.

Because that is what they were voting against according to the widely circulated news sources they were relying on.

IanW (profile) says:

Re: Not half

Half the country wants what’s happening to happen

It was never half, not even close.

Approximately 245 million Americans were eligible to vote in the 2024 general election Of those who voted, Trump got 77,303,573 votes (49.9%).

That’s just about 31% of eligible voters who voted for him. If you consider the entire US population of 335 million, only about 23% voted for him.

Even then, some may have voted for only one reason (inflation reducution, immigration reform, drill baby drill, always Republican, cult worhsip) or a few of those.

Absolutely no one voted for eveything, everywhere, all at omce, including the newly made up stuff, invading Canada, Greenland and Panana, a bitcoin reserve (funded by looting tne Treasury),defund California, cut all spcial spending and aid, or the complete destruction of the entire government apparatus (OK, maybe Bannon did) or the willful defiance of the laws of the US (with Supreme Court approval).

That One Guy (profile) says:

Re: Re: They knew who he was before they voted for him

They knew he wanted to be a dictator before they voted for him(or sat on their asses and refused to vote against him), and anyone paying even the slightest bit of attention would have know the utter contempt he has for the rule of law and how deranged he is, so no, they don’t get to act all shocked and surprised that he’s acting exactly how he said and showed he would even if they might not have known exactly what forms that would take.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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What’s happening is great and it’s exactly what I voted for.

You used your democratic rights in order to end democracy.

You cheer for your dictator, while he and his cronies are looting the country.

Run a better candidate next time!

Yeah, right. Trump has already said there won’t be a next time.

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Nimrod (profile) says:

"Very Good Con"

The thing is, it ISN’T a very good con, people are just that greedy and stupid. None of his lies were new, even in the first go-round. “Draining the swamp” goes back to Adolf Hitler (and probably before), and all the lies he told about the economy were just an updated version of Reagan’s “trickle down”, which didn’t work then and won’t work now.
Congratulations, America. You just sold yourselves out, WHOLESALE. Now you, your children, and THEIR children are all going to pay for your ignorance and stupidity.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: You missed the point kiddo

The talk about eggs is about how the “it’s the economy, stupid,” talk was BS. The squishier Republicans didn’t want to full-on claim the MAGA mantle; they wanted to hide the reasoning for their Trump support behind inflation & etc.

They were fucking coward liars. Maybe they didn’t want THIS… but they didn’t exactly NOT want this.

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JMT (profile) says:

Re: Re:

I love the line about eggs from you guys.

Throughout the election it was your line. All the f’ing time.

It implies that American voters will vote for anything as long as it lowers the price of eggs and then your party still refuses to lower the price of eggs.

I love the way you think it’s the Democratic party that sets the price of eggs. It’s that sort of ignorance that makes you vote against your own best interests.

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That One Guy (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re: 'You MADE me do this', the cry of abusive partners throughout history

It’s amazing how insanely powerful democrats are when you think about it, even when republicans have near-total control of the government(and are working to eliminate that ‘near’ bit) somehow it’s the fault of the democrats that prices aren’t going down(and not, say, mass deportations of workers and multiple trade wars kicked off by the convicted felon president…).

Arijirija says:

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He can if the eggs are laid by him. (that’s what we need – in actual hard fact – for someone somewhere to sell eggs two a dime, certified laid by Donald Trump. Or some such ridiculously low price, as long as they are “Certified Laid By Donald Trump Himself.” Just make sure all the newspapers and news outlets, and the foreign embassy staff get their “complimentary eggs”.)

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That One Guy (profile) says:

Not 'Don't obey in advance', just 'Don't obey'

As I said yesterday if american is going to survive until even the midterms a lot of people in the government are going to have to grow some spines and start using the word ‘No’ a lot more often.

‘Give me access to this system.’
‘You don’t have the legal authority, so no.’

‘You’re fired/out on administrative leave for refusing.’
‘You don’t have the legal authority to do that either, so again, no.’

People need to figure out quickly that a lot of this coup seems to be built upon on a bluff, banking on people’s general nature to follow orders from perceived authority and desire to be ‘team players’ by playing along with what someone else says, even if you think it’s wrong because it would be ‘rude’ to do otherwise.

David says:

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‘You’re fired/out on administrative leave for refusing.’
‘You don’t have the legal authority to do that either, so again, no.’

Why do you think Elon Musk’s thugs seized control of the government payment processing? “legal authority” does not matter if they can stop your wages. And those of any judge who does not agree. And those of any prosecutor who isn’t on board with that.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Then you will be removed from the offices by force, by security guards, as was Phyllis Fong.

Hey, thanks for bringing that up!

These orders are lawful. It really doesn’t matter if you agree.

… because you’re wrong. You’re still wrong, even though your first line was factually correct!

The orders removing Phyllis Fong were unlawful because notice was not sent to congress, nor the appropriate time given before her removal. (See: Securing Inspector General Independence Act of 2022). Whether the law is unconstitutional or not has not been tested. Therefore, it is still the law. Thus, “unlawful”.

But your right, that it didn’t matter. … because Trump controls the use of force – IE the security guards.

There’s a word for “use of force in defiance of the law”. Perhaps you can help me with it…

Bill says:

Re: Oh, so now we're worried?

Hey gang, were you sentient in 2000? The Bush steal? And then 9/11 and “terrorists? – throw them in Gitmo without recourse!” And then Iraq and Afghanistan… So, what, it was all cool when it was a foreign problem? The GOP has been undermining the moral high ground the US was supposed to have since I’ve been politically aware, so shame on everyone who didn’t push back back in 2000. Complicit? Yeah, for 25 years, everyone has been complicit, with occasional coffee breaks for Obama or whatever, but the reversion to the mean? Trajectory towards failed state. Sad.

Ironically, in the sense of this falling in line with Heir Trump’s position, if the DOJ had maybe hired some legit hardcore lawyers instead of civil rights nambly-pambly types, then maybe someone would be like WOAH, LAWSUIT INCOMING!! I’d do it, but y’all fancy gov’t agencies roundly rejected me, so fuck you, and I hope your paychecks get soundly “Elon’d” and you go out on your ass. Smmrh.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Listen I have to say I spent years living and working among very conservative people, and I’ve lived and worked among very liberal people.

Liberals can, absolutely, be annoying.

But I’ve never experienced hate while around them like what I’ve seen while around conservatives.

Spittle-flying rants. Up-front fantasies about murders and assassinations (I wish I was fucking kidding). And also, the offhand, casual, everyday soft bigotry of people who assume everybody thinks as little of The Other as they do.

Not to mention the hateful hypocrisy of saying ‘They’ deserve nothing in one sentence while in the next breath saying, seriously, that I (seen as a member of their ‘Us’ at the time) deserved the aid that had been literally just scoffed at.
The turnaround on that gave me whiplash and I’ll never forget it.
The view was utterly tribal. They bad; Us good.
The view was zero-sum. If a They gets help, an Us has been robbed.

Fuck those people. There’s a reason why I did everything I could to get away, and it was because of how awful they were. There’s a reason why tiny conservative towns wither and die.

Go fuck yourself raw with your bullshit.
I don’t want to hear it.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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You fucked up son.

Now you have 3 choices before you.

You can keep it real and talk some more shit. That will work out about as well as keeping it real usually does.

You can walk away like a bitch. Which honestly is probably your goto move.

You can apologize like an adult. Which seems about as likely as getting crybitch to admit he’s a lying sack of shit.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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I do not think we’ve read the same article. It goes in depth about why this is different from that: because the president is doing things he does not have the right to do, with specific explanations of what rules have been breached. I share the feeling that many Democrats are being absolutely horrendous in this comment section, but there’s no point making a comment about the article if it’s to ignore the whole argument of the article.

Anonymous Coward says:

The shift away from accepted forums of public decision making can’t happen in a vacuum. Which makes the tariffs on Mexico and Canada make a lot more sense; if you make your closest friends your enemies, then when they try to warn you about what’s happening and how it isn’t the same as it’s always been despite what those in power say, nobody will trust them to be telling the truth and not just in it for themselves.

Anonymous Coward says:

When security officials are removed for following classification protocols, when private citizens gain unauthorized access to Treasury payment systems[…]. They represent the coordinated dismantling of constitutional governance and its replacement with a system of personal loyalty.

I think the classification argument is weak. That system didn’t exist prior to 1951, and is defined as much by executive orders as actual laws; there’s certainly nothing in the Constitution about it. As such, only agencies designated by the President have the authority to classify stuff, and the President has full authortity to declassify.

Okay, Trump didn’t follow proper procedure in disseminating this data, but it’s the President who defines proper procedure, and who has the unquestioned authority to pardon anyone for violating federal law in relation to it.

None of this makes things any better, of course. But people have been complaining about executive overreach for at least a century, and the lawmakers had 4 years after Trump’s last presidency to do something about it.

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Matthew N. "The GOAT" Bennett (profile) says:

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The lawmakers have had, like, 80 years to do anything. FDR, a Democrat, was one of the people most responsible for centralizing so much power into the executive branch when he was in office. Even as far back as the Civil War, precedent was being set by presidents of all political leanings that the executive branch is more than just the guy who makes appearances and controls the military.

My opinions on Trump and American politics are actually pretty mixed in general but from what I can see, he’s just the first politician to properly realize the full potential of his office and actually use it instead of the cowardice that’s come to define the American presidency since forever ago. For the first time in years, Americans have a politician who is actually trying to do things and they can’t believe it. It makes their heads explode.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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“My opinions on Trump and American politics are actually pretty mixed in general but from what I can see, he’s just the first politician to properly realize the full potential of his office and actually use it instead of the cowardice that’s come to define the American presidency since forever ago. For the first time in years, Americans have a politician who is actually trying to do things and they can’t believe it. It makes their heads explode.”

Good. I hope you die because one of the things he cut was your life support funding.

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Matthew N. "The GOAT" Bennett (profile) says:

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I’m in Australia, where I get free healthcare because my government actually wants to care for its citizenry. Unlike America, healthcare here doesn’t arbitrarily decide to drop you when your life becomes too expensive for them.

So technically I have unlimited ‘life support funding.’ Want to try that one again?

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Americans have a politician who is actually trying to do things and they can’t believe it. It makes their heads explode.

Bruh… It’s not the “doing things” that are causing the heads to explode. It’s that nobody believe that the “things” would be “take a wrecking ball to the government, and pursue personal vendettas”. Nobody imagined that someone elected as president would be that petty.

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Matthew N. "The GOAT" Bennett (profile) says:

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take a wrecking ball to the government

Many Americans are dissatisfied with the federal government and 77,302,580 of them voted as such. A lot of people have tried to work within the system to fix things and have found that they’re rebuffed at every turn. Joe Biden had like 50 years of gov experience and he could barely push the needle doing things as he was “supposed to.”

Voting in a crazy non-politician whose first instinct is to start tearing everything down is exactly what the people voted for.

There’s a bit from MLK Jr. I always liked in Letter From A Birmingham Jail where he talks about the “white moderate,” a person who is supportive of a cause for justice (in his case, equal rights for people of color) but constantly tries to kick the can down the road and tells people actively fighting for justice that they should wait until a “more convenient season.” In a similar vein, the people are tired of waiting. They realize nobody will magically come along “within the system” to save them, so they have elected to vote in an outsider who is dismantling said system. Here, we have a baking soda volcano and vinegar. Observe.

Bill Doe says:

Re: Re: Re:2 Barely push the needle

That’s the idea in our democracy, or in any democracy. Slow the advance of ideas, so we have sufficient time to argue, politic, squabble, and figure out if it’s the best way forward.

Streamlined, fast, efficient government easily falls to tyranny since no one can examine what’s going on and oppose it in time.

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Matthew N. "The GOAT" Bennett (profile) says:

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And under normal circumstances, I totally agree! But in democracy, or any representative system, the slow roll assumes that people are participating in good faith, and American politicians by and large aren’t.

The average American, year over year, spends more, has less, and generally looks forward to less. Their want of change is stonewalled by a Congress that is by and large owned by corporations and NGOs that do not represent the interests of the people. Anything that does get through is mired in an impenetrable mess of bureaucracy or is blatantly against the will of the people. There is no point attempting to work within the system to fix any of this because the system is designed to work against you.

I think what Techdirt users (and the Democratic Party in general) need to understand is that all of this talk of slow and steady government with all of its rules and safeguards and traditions only exists by the will of the people. When the people have finally had enough, you end up with Trump. You can talk about how what Trump is doing is illegal or mean or a violation of tradition, but the 77 million who voted for him don’t care. When Techdirt writes a new article about Elon doing this or that thing that may be illegal, they don’t care. In fact, they actively support it, because it’s indicative of the system that has kept them down finally being dealt with.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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For the first time in years, Americans have a politician who is actually trying to do things and they can’t believe it.

Yeah, because a bunch of the things he’s trying to do are (A) dangerous for the world economy and (B) attempting to undermine or even erase the power of the legislative branch.

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crystal morell says:

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No, thats where you are wrong. How do you figure it’s dangerous for the economy anyway? Are you telling us that having violent gangs over here putting people out of their homes was good? Or the fact there were at least 100 know terrorists that is on the American watch list that came through the open borders? Or is it all the wars Biden kept getting us involved in? Or maybe you mean the 25 federally funded ludicrous programs Biden and his admin. funded with tax payer money? you may look into all of this yourself and see about it, so why don’t you?
You darn right they are changing the legislative..people, not the laws. They are actually trying to abide by our laws. You do not have to like them people but you should have enough sense to know what has been going on, maybe you just didn’t know you’ve been lied to for years now and don’t want to admit it. Either way, we are better off. Don’t forget to keep up with all the information that will be coming out about the crooked people that are no longer in office. It already started with the assassination documents of JFK (but the CIA and FBI don’t lie right?)

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Matthew N. "The GOAT" Bennett (profile) says:

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erase the power of the legislative branch.

Genuinely, I think if you polled the entirety of America on “Should we get rid of the legislative branch?” you’d get a “YES” vote above 50% and it would be bipartisan.

I don’t even think of that as a negative thing, the history of democracies is just people trying to replace them with monarchies because they happened to like one guy. They tried to do it as early as Washington.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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FDR, a Democrat, was one of the people most responsible for centralizing so much power into the executive branch when he was in office.

Correct, but saying FDR was “a Democrat” is kind of burying the lede. That was basically the event that started the current party roles as liberal and conservative. Traditionally, the Republicans had been the more liberal party.

And Andrew Jackson had been considered an autocrat a hundred years earlier.

The public tend to focus way too much on the Presidency, and it’s become a self-fulfilling problem: the lawmakers also have a tendency to assign authority to the President, who was originally only meant to “preside” over them. (I guess because all the attention paid to that person distracts from the bullshit of the other 500.)

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Matthew N. "The GOAT" Bennett (profile) says:

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Thanks for the clarification, I love US history to death but I’m not totally familiar with all the inner workings as a non-native.

From personal experience, when I read international news a lot of stuff is placed at the feet of the US pres because he’s kind of the figurehead of the whole nation, even if his powers are in fact limited compared to other branches. The framers went to great pains to ensure he wasn’t a king but culturally he may as well be one. Even stuff that isn’t really his fault or under his control is blamed on him.

Arijirija says:

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It’s a weakness of the Constitution. It was written at a time when nearly all other Heads of State were executive HoSes. The UK developed further – Douglas Adams gets it right with his take on the Galactic Empire and the Galactic Emperor having been put in stasis the moment he was about to die, and so the executive power moves down a step or two over the centuries, leaving the Galactic Emperor still officially in power, but in no position to exercise it. It’s the way the UK (and former colonial possessions such as Canada, Australia, Jamaica, Malaysia, etc) has worked.

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Matthew N. "The GOAT" Bennett (profile) says:

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My findings and viewpoints hinge on what I have learned through studying American history and general American cultural trends. Yours are based on what the TV told you.

I’d ask you to prove me wrong but I skimmed a bit of your comment history and you’ve never written anything longer than a couple of sentences in your 2 years on this website. Thanks for playing.

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crystal morell says:

A COUP??

YOU must not be familiar with the things that were hid and denied for us Americans over the past 4 years. Take a look at the list of twenty-five federally funded programs Biden was in charge of approving, they are all a joke–millions of dollars to train clowns on how to make balloon animals, a program about pairing socks! Now, that is a coup, when you look at all the other information the entire administration is guilty of hiding, and I do not mean just Hunter Bidens laptop. During a Senate oversight committee, a worker that is head of the department dealing with kids/social services admitted to them letting 85,000 migrant children go with sex and labor traffickers.
The ONLY thing Trump and even Elon are doing, is taking the money out of the crooks pockets and putting it back where it is supposed to be. And of course people are being let go, how else do you expect to clear out the crooks that refuse to let us vote on things that we should have a say in, or to stop making up ridiculous programs to take money for themselves??
Instead of people being so concerned if Trump is going to change some stuff, maybe you all should consider looking further into the past four years. I promise you, you will find everything I just told you and more on creditable websites, including whitehouse.gov. Read through the bills and executive orders to read word for word what they did or tried to have passed. I’ve noticed the people that complain and cry about Trump never once took the time to read through anything themselves, nor watch speeches themselves. Give it a try sometime.

cyferwolf says:

so what do we do?

Schumer says sit and wait for trump to screw up. It took nearly a week for a democratic congress critter to actually even bother to go look at what Musk has been doing. There’s hardly any protests, save a few scattered ones. Hell some of the dems are voting FOR the awful nominees they’ve put up. I’ve called my rep (a dem) and both my senators (repubs). Got polite disinterest in my concerns from the repubs, and sympathetic “we’re doing all we can” from the dem. Even the media is rolling over and playing dead, arguing over Musk’s “awkward gesture” and awkwardly looking the other way while all this goes on.

What the hell am I supposed to do at this point? People like you guys are saying it’s a coup, the more moderates are saying “oh it’s bad but, uh…”. So What the hell am I supposed to do?

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I know exactly what you mean. When he was first getting elected, I was infuriated and pissed beyond belief. Every single thing he did disturbed me beyond belief. I produced enough cortisol in 2015 and 2016 to last me a lifetime. And then he got elected. and it got worse.
After 4 years of hell, we catch a decent break with Biden. He’s not ideal, but he’s not a literal villain either.
Then Trump then gets charged with tons of felonies for horrible acts. Yet somehow, he never really pays for January 6th (which, in my opinion, was equivalent to the govt saying “Go ahead! Attempt a coup!”). Then he runs for the next election, and to my dismay, Republicans and Christians seem to eat that sh*t up. HOW. HOW?!
My father supports him. I’ve had friends in their mid twenties support him and not see how it’s a grave moral failing to support that wannabe tyrant whom the Klan supports. Whom dictators around the world adore.
Who has sexually harassed and assaulted scores of women.
Who openly despises the Constitution, intellectualism, human rights, and any kind of socialism.
I’ve even made an ex-friend a 13 page-long document explaining numerous reasons not to vote for him, appealing to basic reasoning skills.
Such reasoning skills were nonexistent. She voted for him and was elated on social media when he won. I told her she’s a fucking idiot and that I will never speak to her again.

I’m tired of being upset and freaking out.
Last year donated to Kamala and spread awareness about her nearly everywhere I went as soon as she took over Biden’s campaign. I’ve been on my soapbox for (holy sh*t) nearly a decade, and my words of concern have fallen on deaf ears.

It’s not getting better any time soon. Honestly, the US will probably have to get French or Ghandi with it before anything finally happens. I’m preparing to leave the United States at this point. It’s escalating quickly and no matter how many times I call my representatives, it doesn’t seem to matter. I could be wrong, but I think that America’s complacent population waking up and getting pissed for the first time is what needs to happen for change to come.

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David says:

A republic -- if you can keep it

Look what happened when the duly elected South Korean president attempted an unconstitutional executive power grab. Parliament, including his own party, resisted military force and made the necessary steps to remove him from power, with the respective government employees doing their part with following through against the coup.

In contrast, the U.S. political caste and population rolls over on its back and plays dead.

The United States Republic is toast, like the Weimar Republic was when a convicted felon was let back into power after his first disorganized Bierhallenmarsch that did not know what to do with the rubble raised with inciting rhetoric.

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Ivan Durakov says:

Waaah

The demshevik criminal enterprise helped make Donald Trump who he is today. Too bad for you that you weren’t better at destroying him. You showed your hands. And now, you’ll reap what you’ve sown. Shoulda been more conciliatory, but you went for blood, literally, and now it’s time for some real justice.

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Who gives a fuck about Trump anymore?
He’s an old fraudster, cult leader, and rapist who only ever wanted to be elected for the get-out-of-jail card printed up for him by the corrupt SCOUTS.

He’s already nothing. He’s a puppet. He’ll continue to sign a bunch of EOs written for him by the 2025 fascists, but otherwise he’s ceded the steering wheel to Muskdroid.

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Chris says:

Unfortunate overcorrection

Actually the fault for this lies first and foremost in the hands of the democrat party. The left was careless and let their narrative shift too far from the mainstream. This left the majority in the middle looking for the normal. Trump’s message was ambiguous enough for people to interpret it as they want. The far right saw what they want, the middle saw what they want. He is probably not Hitler but he attracts the crazies. That’s the problem. He may enable them. Musk is following the same ambiguous strategy now with his Nazi salute / innocent heart felt gratitude. Let everyone see what they want. The problem is it will truly erode democracy and lay the power in the hands of a few billionaires. Even the radical islamists are presenting their ideology as the traditional conservative ‘normal’, in the hopes of getting the family oriented people to switch. Its all a bit insane.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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The left was careless and let their narrative shift too far from the mainstream

Yeah, sorry, but I for one gotta say get outta here with that Ruy Teixiera ‘the Democrats should just become Republicans with a coat of paint’ kinda crap.

You know Martin Niemoller’s “first they came for the…” thing?
The point of it is:
Everyone matters, or else, ultimately, nobody does.

Niemoller starts it off with Communists. But one of the first things the Nazis burned was a bunch of LGBTQ-friendly research. You want to blame the Democrats for being bad at messaging…? well hey, welcome to Earth.
But: if you think the message itself was the problem you can fuck right off with that. I belong here; I matter. Trans people belong here, and matter.

Everyone matters or nobody matters.

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“The DNC is TOO far left!” the subtard cries right after it spent the past four years doing nearly everything the republicans wanted including abusing refugees and scolding anyone who dared asked for their taxes to be used to help them pay medical bills instead of turning Middle Eastern kids into skeletons.

Drag your worthless ass back to Fark you fascist-enabling shitheel.

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Anonymous Coward says:

If you want to stop Trump, he has an Achilles heel.

It’s getting pretty obvious from all the propaganda and censorship by the US govt that covid leaked in the US, and they thought they could cover it up by blaming China for it.

Covid was in the US the summer of 2019. What was thought to be the e-cigarette vaping illness (evali), which peaked in Sept 2019, was really the first covid wave in the world. E-cigarette users are 7 times more likely to contract covid-19 than non-e-cig users. They were the canaries in the coal mine.

The CDC was aware of it and covered it up (vitamin e thickener was the cover story) after discovering it was one of Ralph Baric’s creations. They hoped to hide the numbers as a severe flu season and hoped it would be gone in a year.

When China detected it several months later, after it had worked its way to the other side of the globe infecting many countries along the way, the US decided to wash its hands of the now-pandemic and blame China.

To be clear, the virus had been silently circulating and spreading in the US since at least the middle of 2019, and since we didn’t take any action until early 2020, that long lead time is the reason why the US struggles with such high levels of it.

With China, the virus didn’t enter their country until late 2019. They detected it early and locked down early, allowing them to get it under control, which is why they had such low rates of it until Omicron showed up.

There were so many asymptomatic cases in early 2020, the supposed beginning of the pandemic in the US, because they were of people who had contracted covid months earlier and recovered on their own.

The US found every excuse in early 2020 to delay testing for this reason. It would have revealed the virus was already widespread in the US by the time China got their first cases.

The World Health Organization also monitored the virus as it spread in the US. Unlike the CDC, the WHO is an independent body, and when it refused to obey Trump’s order to blame China after they detected it, he cut off their funding.

Whether or not GOF research was outsourced to WIV in cooperation with EcoHealth Alliance is irrelevant since there was never any leak from that lab.

It’s why Trump held his covid meetings in high-security meeting rooms, the so-called “Sensitive Compartmentalized Information Facility” usually reserved for intelligence and military operations. This is the big secret the US is hiding about covid.

Covid-19 isn’t the China virus. It’s the America virus. The freedom flu. We knew this from DAY ONE.

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Blah says:

Change is never an easy time.

I don’t believe the America Trump envisions will be much better than what we had before, but I don’t believe what we had before was sustainable for more than another generation or two, either.

I see people freaking out over what Musk specifically has been doing, and rightfully so.

I do not see anyone asking what if he is telling the truth? The system may be rotten and rife with corruption. It may need to be overhauled, although it should be done at a slower and more methodical pace. The unfortunate reality of the US justice system is that it moves so painfully slow that years of work is wasted and undone every time the dominate party shifts.

Democrats are being incredibly quiet right now. It makes me wonder if there isn’t more resistance because the evidence will actually point to corruption.

I don’t want that to be the case, but it is absolutely worth considering and people immediately jumping to the conclusion that Musks actions are malicious may benefit from some patience to see how the legal system sorts this mess out.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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I do not see anyone asking what if he is telling the truth?

Does it matter? An unelected billionaire is entering government institutions, taking them over, collecting their data, and leaving everyone wondering what the fuck is going on. Whether he’s got authorization to do what he’s been doing is a moot point⁠—the fact is that Elon Musk was not elected (or appointed by Congress) to serve the people of the United States and therefore can’t be trusted with sensitive/classified information.

I mean, we’re talking about a guy who lied about playing video games while he paid people to play those games for him. If he’s going to lie about something that inconsequential, how can he be trusted to handle classified data without it leaking all over the place?

Democrats are being incredibly quiet right now. It makes me wonder if there isn’t more resistance because the evidence will actually point to corruption.

That is a possibility, sure. But it’s far more likely that Democrats have had a messaging problem for years, going back to at least the 2016 presidential campaign and exacerbated by the refusal to embrace social media to its fullest. They’ve also refused to flex most of whatever power they have when they have it out of the fear that they might upset their poor widdle fwiends acwoss the aisle. The Democrat Party is, by and large, made up of feckless centrist cowards who never met a progressive they couldn’t wait to bully out of office and a Republican with whom they weren’t willing to shake hands on a deal to screw over marginalized people.

people immediately jumping to the conclusion that Musks actions are malicious may benefit from some patience to see how the legal system sorts this mess out

His actions are malicious because nobody knows what he’s doing with the data he’s gathering. As for the legal system: Musk is BFFs with Donald Trump, so if Musk lands in any legal jeopardy, you can bet your ass that a presidential pardon will soon save his ass.

Blah says:

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So it’s a tired take, but yes it matters. If things are so far gone that the corruption (overspending/skimming funds from the tax payers) is systemic than it requires pretty drastic breaks from the norm to correct.

Democrats are bought the same as Republicans and that should be obvious to anyone paying attention. It’s a mess, and again I don’t think Trump’s vision of America is going to be much better than what we have but things need to change because the current model is not sustainable, and not going to last more than another generation or two. So if you have a bunch of complacent politicians who are pestered by lobbyists and wined and dined to the point of complete disconnect from the general population, I don’t see any way that hasn’t been tried yet to fix it.

There is absolutely nothing in the Constitution that says a single thing about classified information or the appointing of officials that are allowed to view that information.

This is all circling back to what the people voted for. They are sick of the pandering, the bureaucracy, and a system that has been meticulously built around keeping them out while giving them as little as possible to keep them complacent.

Trump is going to make it ten times worse, but this entire failing is their own doing. So I don’t see how anyone expects the people creating the systems everyone hates to fix it.

All of the doomsaying and over reactions on social media just reinforce conspiracy’s that there’s a “deep state” trying to unseat Trump. I’ve seen so many flat out lies since he took office that I’ve stopped trusting anything I read unless it’s sourced, and you should too. That includes hearsay from media outlets that can’t back up their claims, or articles from alarmist media outlets that aren’t being shared across multiple outlets.

I’m inclined to believe that Musk doesn’t have the best intentions when it comes to what he’s doing, in terms of serving the American people and not his own self interests; but I don’t think he’s the super villain alarmists are making him out to be – and he didn’t start to receive this kind of demonizing until he bought out Twitter, so it is my opinion that there are underlying motives to make him look bad because he pissed off the wrong people. Prior to him buying Twitter he was the patron saint of green energy and space, very little criticism ever made it to the mainstream around him.

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The America that Trump envisions is a vast sea-to-sea Mar-a-lago where he can plays golf, wanders into weddings, has rallies and fancy speeches whenever he wants. Everyone works for him aside from a few wealthy people who are so glad to make his acquittance wherever he goes. Mister President Trump SIR! they call out, with tears in their eyes. Every toilet is gold and there is a diet coke button and a surgically modified blonde GOP hopeful within his reach at all times. At All Times. He’s the smartest, kindest, most important man ever and he knows it because everyone will keep saying it, forever.

ugh.

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Max says:

Unfortunately this carries huge consequences for the entire world, too. The systematic dismantling of a global superpower means instability and suffering for potentially billions.

We created a system that expected people not to be too stupid or too brazen with exploiting their power, and then failed to punish them as they became increasingly stupid and brazen.

I believe we are past the point of peaceful exchange of power with the democratic process. It may not be a military coup at the moment, but one way or another I think it soon will be.

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Thad (profile) says:

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Unfortunately this carries huge consequences for the entire world, too. The systematic dismantling of a global superpower means instability and suffering for potentially billions.

That and stuff like cutting off foreign aid is going to kill a whole lot of people.

And you know what happens when there’s a power vacuum? Someone else steps in. If we’re lucky, that’s Europe. But it’s sure looking to me like it’ll be China.

Benji says:

Re: Re: Re:

USAID took up about $40BN dollars of the federal budget, and IK that sure sounds like a lot to an oligarch trying to get revenge on his home nation and anyone who doesn’t understand the economy, but it is a fraction of the defense budget, for example (about $900BN).

International aid isn’t the problem, it was a small plate of scraps that the u.s. tossed to exploited nations (mostly to gain soft power). It’s honestly kinda pathetic how some people are angry at how OUR scraps are being taken, and completely overlooking the people genuinely stealing from us.

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David says:

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It is a coup if government functions are subjugated without legal authority. “People voted for Trump as president” is not changing the legal authority that the person acting in the position of a U.S. president can assume, regardless of whatever purportive justification that person may come up with for his goals.

Presidents are not kings.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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And more to the point: Congress is the part of the government entrusted to create or eliminate a federal agency. If the president⁠—and, by extension, an unelected private citizen working with the president⁠—can eliminate a federal agency on their own and block spending that already has Congressional approval, Congress has no power, which means the only real form of representative government at the national level is powerless and therefore useless.

Trump trying to dismantle USAID is worrying. Musk helping him do it, and offering no details of what he plans to do with all the data he’s taking from USAID, should be scaring the hell out of everyone who isn’t kissing both their asses.

Sbdc says:

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I’m not aure why people are so ignorant about the value of USAID. The organization employees private contractors tasked with doing work the government deems valuable. Generally this creates goo will and serves to open those places as a market to American goods.

Doing this is much much cheaper than war, and it’s the organization that helps smooth things over after we’ve bombed the hell out of some place.

You saw it after Japan, Germany, Vietnam, and others become huge consumers of American goods post conflict…. The bombing isn’t what made that happen…

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Andrew de la O says:

Coup

You mean like what the Obama/Bribeme administration was doing?
Using a weaponized DOJ to remove and imprison those that opposed a totalitarian regime that the democrats wanted to instill?
Didn’t you listen to democrat politicians claim our constitution was outdated and needed to be revised and or discontinued?
The only people that are being purged are those that knowingly broke the law and fabricated false narratives to justify imprisoning patriots.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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Didn’t you listen to democrat politicians claim our constitution was outdated and needed to be revised and or discontinued?

I’m pretty sure you’re thinking of right-wing assholes there, son. While some Democrats may claim that some individual parts of the Constitution could use some updating, it’s the fascists who would prefer to get rid of the Constitution entirely.

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Mathew says:

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Only people who are worried are degenerates and reddit simpletons who have zero idea about the political structure of GOTUS.

I, and a proud person of color from USA, and everyone I know have started to lean towards extreme right(republican) because it has become evident that all the democrats have done is devide and rule by inflicting hate and fear amongst various communities.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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You forgot to mention the corruption fraud and abuse that’s being exposed

And if Musk happens to dox people working in foreign countries who stand the risk of being hurt by having their work exposed in countries where such work is frowned upon (e.g., advocating for women’s rights in a country where such advocacy is unwelcome), well, what do a few dead bodies matter to Americans, right? I mean, we all saw the aftermath of a school shooting where nearly two dozen elementary school children were killed and that didn’t galvanize the entire fucking country into doing something about gun violence, so Americans being hurt or killed overseas because Musk thought it’d be funny to dox them for being “frauds” won’t even move the needle.

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Edward Ash says:

The Subject of Confusion and illusion

The Problems seem to be real, and the are.
What happens when=
Rich take over
Follow the leader is best
When Everyone has the same opinion?
When you Throw into the pot, all the tricks of the trade, That corps have been using for YEARS to get us to BUY CRAP.
When, “Im right and you are wrong, and I can Prove it.” Never appears.
BS reigns.
YOU HAVE an Idiot, that THINKS he knows how things are happening, but hasnt been in the Arena to search his OWN conclusions. HE cant FIND the Facts, he has discerned.
All those Rich folks are hanging on to his tails, and feeding him Enough BS to Fertilize the nation.

How to you Fill a conspiracy Fan, with More Conspiracy?
Our Gov. Cant Show how things work unless you get into the SYSTEM they have created. But even that has SHOWN that our Gov. has to many HOLES IN IT..

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Mathew says:

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No. Over half of the people of USA wanted this which is why they voted republican. Everyone knows how USAID was used/for what purpose.

Democrats are known to follow the policy of ‘divide and rule’ since eternity by spreading hate and fear between masses; its just that young adults today are more aware and cautious of their vicious polity.

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Jason says:

Evidence

What evidence is there that Musk ‘has control’? Seeing what USAID is doing and them reporting on it is not control. And if he/they find things that we shouldnt be spending money on he reports it, those with actual control can/should shut it down.

As for classified things, USAID should not be doing anything that is classified. If its classified it should be falling under other agencies.

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Thad (profile) says:

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What evidence is there that Musk ‘has control’?

Having people who tried to enforce security protocol removed and refusing to let congressional representatives into the building sure seems to fit the bill.

Seeing what USAID is doing and them reporting on it is not control.

Unilaterally cutting off their funding is.

And if he/they find things that we shouldnt be spending money on he reports it, those with actual control can/should shut it down.

Sorry, was there an act of Congress to defund USAID that I missed? Please feel free to link to a source on that.

As for classified things, USAID should not be doing anything that is classified. If its classified it should be falling under other agencies.

Maybe so. Perhaps someone with the authority to declassify those materials could choose to do so.

In the meantime, it’s illegal for someone without security clearance to access them.

Or is this another “Trump can declassify documents with his mind” situation?

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Mathew says:

Bait Article.

Don’t think the access to USAID is “unauthorized” as claimed here when POTUS explicitly allowed the access.

Also, the whole reason this change/purge is happening is because over half of people of USA who voted republican wanted this to happen. All of what is happening right now was documented in trumps manifesto.

Don’t be Naive.

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Tyrone says:

Oh wait till we start restructuring the rotten education system and money swindeling “Weapons Aid” schemes to third world countries.

I want my 11 y/o brother to learn mathematics and language fluency, not brainrot and degeneracy like transgenderism and how you deserve to feel entitled.

About time we bring back some cultural and societal ethics and morals. We need to bring back the impact of shame and accountability.

For the record, yes I am as black as they come, yes I (and my entier family) voted republicans, yes We support republicans, yes we exists.

David says:

It's too late for the U.S.

Yes, the U.S. is having a coup. It won’t be stopped or even protested that much. Why? Americans don’t care. The majority of citizens are too uneducated, unmotivated, unpatriotic or just plain Nazi Fascist to care. There will be NO resistance. It’s obvious. Every Democratic politician appears to have gone inot professional hiding. A few attended a protest. LOL! Yea, that will work. Instead of using the power of their offices they stand in the street along with the other totally useless and helpless Americans holding up a sign or giving a whining media soundbite. SORRY to the decent Americans who will suffer but no other Americans will stand up with you to help. We are finally on our own in a dictatorship. It’s over B/C Americans are simply pieces of shit who love our mass school shootings more than democracy.

Judi says:

The Coup Happening Before Our Eyes

Before our eyes, a coup is happening and most people are so completely unwilling to recognize it happening. Many think it is a good thing and that, I question their education, morals and common sense. I simply don’t understand why they would betray the fundamental values of The Constitution for a grifer and a Foreign National that have now hijacked Our beloved country.

It is a pity that some of their grandparents fought that freedom they are freely giving away. I will sadly say that knowing this a relative of mine that I dearly love in the Marines loves this coup. So very sad to swear defending the Constitution and also to celebrate a coup. That is akin to wearing a peace pin and fighting in war.

I will continue to pray for the country that I dearly love, I pray that I will always wake with the same freedoms I had when I had just ten years ago. Most of all, I pray that our military will always remain faithful and loyal to the Constitution and not switch loyalty to a man, such as POTUS. When that happens WE ALL are in deep trouble

Jonesy says:

Coup under Trump

I have been talking about this since Trump first won the Presidency 8 years ago, but here we are. I am old enough to remember family members who fought against Nazism during WWII. I have read numerous books about that war and resistance fighters in every European country who fought to restore their freedoms. I pray we won’t get to that point, but we better start fighting now. I had a thought (maybe crazy, but it might do something). If we all sent every Senator and rep (not just our state’s) telling them to wake up and stop Trump and Musk. What they’re doing is illegal, but they are just going along and it’s wrong. This isn’t about parties or “whose side are you on?” We’re talking about America as we’ve grown to know it. I found a list of all the email addresses for our Senators at:
http://hrlibrary.umn.edu/peace/senate.html. But I couldn’t find a list for reps – maybe someone can. We’ve got to get moving on this before we can’t do anything. I don’t want to live out my life in a fascist country!!

BetsyRoss (profile) says:

How we got here and what next?

Mr. Brock, I read 2 of your posts and could not agree with you more. We are no doubt watching our government bit by bit being dismantled by a malignant narcissistic felon and his opportunistic, rich, greedy cronies. Donald Trump and his cronies have been encouraged and enabled along the way by many. It was the supreme court decision to grant immmunity to our felon of a president that I believe has caused confusion and a delay in getting people to act on all of the serious crimes that are being committed by Trump, Musk and others in the house that belongs to the people that did not elect Musk for any office. When people are honest, law abiding citizens they rely on laws to deal with others that break them. Unfortunately laws take time. The democrats have been dealing with a felon that has been given the message that there will be no consequences for any actions that he takes while president so why should he care about breaking laws. He is almost 80 years old and probably does not feel at this point that he has much more to lose. If I blame anyone, it is the supreme court. Where are they now, or ever? They just sit on their high thrones while they watch the democrats scramble while trying to figure out the appropriate actions to take in a situation that no government official prior to Trump would ever have anticipated encountering. After being impeached, not re-elected and then being responsible for an insurrection, how the hell is it that anyone could possibly be permitted to run for president? Is it because he was a well known TV star? Certainly it wasn’t because of his success in business. A successful business man does not claim bankruptcy on an ongoing basis. Felons are not even allowed to vote in this country! I guess this is all water under the damm and we are here now with Elon’s hands in the money jar and Trump with his magical thinking and grandstanding causing us to be on the verge of WWIII. Elon was not elected by anyone. He has accessed the treasury and people’s personal information. He is a private citizen that has committed serious crimes. He may be rich and have many businesses but he is still a citizen like you and me. So, why don’t they just cart his ass off to jail like they would if it were you or me committing these crimes. These offenses are not permitted even if he is being directed by the president. What are they waiting for? I can understand the need to be clear about what is going on but it seems quite obvious at this point that there is criminal activity that day by day is causing American citizens to become less safe. I shutter to think what is happening to the money in the treasury that Elon and possibly others have access to. Democrats are not being provided with any information concerning what Trump and Musk are doing and planning. This is not business as usual. This is not the time to worry about individual political welfare. It is time to act now and consider politics when we still have a democracy!

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