Funniest/Most Insightful Comments Of The Week At Techdirt
from the spread-the-word dept
This week, our first place winner on the insightful side comes from Violet Aubergine in response to the accusation that coverage of Elon Musk is motivated by hatred:
We don’t hate Musk. We would love it if Musk was diligently working at making Twitter better via methods that don’t mimic a coked up grizzly bear. But Musk keeps doing pathetic things like this. And when the world’s richest man does something pathetic it’s going to get covered by the media regardless of how certain people feel about him. It’d be journalistic malpractice to not report on a story that every tech site is covering. Don’t want to see Musk in the news, then convince him to stop acting like a drunken child.
In second place, it’s an anonymous comment about the prevalence of scam ads on Truth Social:
Whole reason you run scam ads on TS is because it’s an entire population of people who’ve already self-selected for being scammable — elsewise they wouldn’t be Trump fans.
For editor’s choice on the insightful side, we start out with a comment from That One Guy about Musk’s failure to combat CSAM on Twitter:
That really cannot be emphasized enough to highlight just how despicable he and the people defending him are.
Musk upon faced with CSAM on the platform he now owns: Fire the people responsible for finding and removing it, cut ties with the company providing software to help them do that, decide that so long as the people providing/selling it are doing it elsewhere and merely providing the links on Twitter there’s no need to bother law enforcement about the matter.
Musk when faced with the fact that someone else was getting more attention than him: Issue a ‘high priority’ ultimatum that they ensure he gets more attention or else he’s going to go on another employee purge.
Next, it’s a comment from HotHead in response to the claim that the Sullivan standard for defaming a public figure is unfair because you’d “need to be a mindreader” to sue under it:
This is like saying that you need a mind reader to reach “guilty without a reasonable doubt” in criminal cases. And just as the rights in the Fourth, Fifth, and Sixth Amendments are worth letting a few criminals get away, the rights in the First Amendment are more important than catching every person who defames a public figure (who, in the case of many government officials, is probably wealthy enough to tank an unfortunate smear every once in a while).
Over on the funny side, our first place winner is Pseudonymous Coward with a comment about Kathryn Tewson inviting DoNotPay to use its AI lawyer in court against her:
Got to admit, I look forward to reading the ruling in Put Up v. Shut Up.
In second place, it’s nerdrage with a comment about Musk demanding everyone see his tweets:
Jesus Christ…
They should just rename Twitter “Elon Musk’s Ego” at this point.
For editor’s choice on the funny side, we start out with one more anonymous dig at Musk:
Soon Elon will be the most popular person on Twitter, by being the only person on Twitter.
Finally, we’ve got an anonymous comment responding to us questioning the claim that last year the DEA seized “enough fentanyl to kill every American”:
Mike I believe the logic for that goes like this: If every American had a tiny bit of fentanyl on/near them, US police would be forced to massacre everyone. For their own safety.
That’s all for this week, folks!
Comments on “Funniest/Most Insightful Comments Of The Week At Techdirt”
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Fun and informative
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6bIhubBA_k
How and why attention span has reduced.
A friend complained about Protesters and why they were breaking things.
I asked him how in hell do you get attention with all the crap thats happening, already.
It makes for a great distraction.
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president day special
https://dinoengine.com/2
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fuck off, spambot
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watch your language. I didn’t even know english language can be raped such horrible way.
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And you are not welcome here.
So take the damn hint and get lost.
Re: Re: Re:2
Being able to write a coherent response to what was written is something any human should be able to do, but TP has never done once.
Re: Re: Re:3
I will note that sometimes some of our other trolls can’t clear this bar either.
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Re: Re: Re:4
You just need to define coherent slightly different way.
If there’s something in there that you cannot yet understand, maybe I can suggest some books for you to read:
1) Sets for mathematics by Lawvere
2) Category Theory by Awodey
3) Categories for working mathematician by MacLane
Once you’ve read these, you have the minimum basic understanding of the technology that is needed to understand the bullshit you encounter. This is some 1970s technology, so computer experts like yourself should have no big problems with the material.
Re: Re: Re:3
The (at the time of this writing) 13 additional submissions of additional evidence further proving my observation weren’t strictly needed, but are welcomed nonetheless.
Re: Re: Re:4
Tero Pulkinnen is Chozen if he were Finnish and wasn’t obsessed with femboys all the time.
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Re: Re: Re:2
I can always start writing as a anonymous coward, and then you need to figure out from the contents itself whether it’s me or someone else.
I haven’t gone in to that low yet though. But misusing the avatar and user name information has a danger that users decide to not reveal their identity online.
Basically your message is nothing but avatar and user name information misuse.
Re: Re: Re:3
You say that like it’d be difficult. Before you were brave and foolhardy enough to sign up for a named account you always signed off as tp anyway, and nobody can fake the way you constantly mess up on the English language.
All it takes is an Anonymous Coward to promote meshpage for no good reason, or an Anonymous Coward to boast about suing dead grandmothers in the name of copyright, and we can very safely assume that it’s you.
Not really. John Smith tried that exact same gambit, but everyone who pays attention can easily identify who he is through his constant bitching about Section 230.
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Re: Re: Re:4
Sadly you didn’t understand the “misuse” reference. I’ve talked about that before, but guess the information isn’t registering on your responses. Basically the problem is that when community/the world misuses the features built to the technologies available, the tech developers have responsibility to fix the issue before releasing their next version of the product. Over time and with large number of people trying their luck with the loopholes, the requirements that tech developers need to build will increase exponentially. That’s why it takes large number of years to build some trivial pieces of technology used by 150 million people.
But you’re not bothering me about it, but unfortunately you are causing techdirt to have that problem. When their avatar and user name features are being misused, they need to fix the problem in next release. Happily they have anonymous coward feature implemented, but if the misuses are still continuing the site might need to do some changes that noone in the world really wants.
See how the problem of censorship and nasty behaviour by the underlying platforms are caused by the misuses from their user base.
Re: Re: Re:5
All this would be reasonable if not for the fact that 1) forum and comment code is not technology that people are going to bend over backwards suing people over, and 2) your definition of misuse and “tech developer responsibility” has been called into question multiple times.
No “tech” is being released. Techdirt doesn’t release the ability to leave comments on articles like you make Meshpage releases. You can blur these analogies thinking that it somehow helps your case, but it doesn’t.
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Re: Re: Re:6
yet, you have no solution to the clear violations of community guidelines. All you can do is shout that “censorship is evil” or “copyright limits us too much”, but you don’t have working solution to the underlying issue: where is authors going to get their living after spending their time creating copyrighted works for the betterment of the human kind.
Re: Re: Re:7
Authorship has never guaranteed any income, indeed the default is that no income is made. For an author to make money they have to win the lottery of finding enough fans of their work to give them an income.
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Re: Re: Re:8
And when those fans are just bloody pirates? With everyone using adblockers, who is using the internet without money? When all the information is free (freedom) and products are free (beer). When the essential market mechanisms of moving money around have not been developed. And the market is so immature that customers cannot trust the products to work correctly, and thus only largest companies get enough stability to gain user engagement. When the marketing of the products take an organisation larger than europe. When the whole computer software area is struggling to obtain money from customers and bundling software to hardware products is only way to transform software’s value into real money. How is one person going to get the money from this system?
Basically this is system-wide issue, and you can’t push your failures to the responsibility of one person working alone.
Re: Re: Re:9
Piracy id not the problem you think it is, as many people make money from their authorship while giving their work away for free. Doing so however requires better people skills than you exhibit.
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Re: Re: Re:10
This isn’t valid plan. You can’t just pick top 2% people who you’re going to give some coins, but instead your plan should have an element where the whole market is living. You can’t base your economy on scams, ponzi schemes, pyramid schemes and such where 2% gains money and 98% is losing.
The plan needs to have an element where everyone in the market is allowed to get their expenses covered.
Re: Re: Re:11
That plan will not work, as it can’t pay for everyone who authors a work, as everyone one would author new works to make a living.
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Re: Re: Re:12
The current situation with web pages isn’t any better. There’s 2 billion web sites on the planet, but only small minority of the pages is generating enough money to cover for the expenses. Thus it’s responsibility of companies to pay for the development of the web, since any money what they pass to the employees, could be used to build web pages, and then those funds are unavailable for company’s own business. And thus your scammy ponzi pyramid system is draining money from the companies and leaking it to develop free products that are unable to support themselves via normal market forces. Basically the companies that need to pay for the fun are competing against itself, in similar way of how infringing pirates copying your copyrighted work is competing against your own work. Thus the free ponzi software systems are illegal.
Re: Re: Re:13
What you seem to fail to grasp is that all creative endeavors are risky investments of time and money, and most often fail to recover sunk costs. Further, not everybody who creates a web page do it to make money, but many do it for more altruistic reasons, and/or because there are non financial returns from doing so that they find worth the costs and effort.
Re: Re: Re:13
I’m going to stop you right there and point out that you’d rather put money back into the business than pay people who work for you. That, right there, is a huge reason why nobody should be working for you – you expect people to work for free.
And before you use the excuse of “pirates don’t pay authors”, here’s the thing: just because some people shoplift groceries from a supermarket doesn’t mean the supermarket stops paying its employees. You can indeed choose to not pay anyone after hiring them for their services. Just don’t expect them to continue working for you just to stroke your fragile ego.
Re: Re: Re:14
If it happens alot, the supermarket cannot afford to pay its employees. When supermarkets normally have 2% loss from shoplifting, in the software market, it’s more like 90%. When faced with a statistics like that, you’ll realize that paying employees simply becomes unavailable from the people who work in the market.
Re: Re: Re:15
Even the Business Software Alliance doesn’t make the claim that 90% of all software is pirated.
You can keep trying to lie about the numbers, but it won’t help you.
Re: Re: Re:16
Well, they don’t count all the piracy that is available, these mix&match youtube videos and fair use idiots content is outside of BSA’s radar. Basically all of youtube is doing piracy. Twitch.tv too. And they don’t count free software, open source and creative commons as piracy services, even though they never seem to pay those license fees to anyone.
Re: Re: Re:17
You are just jealous that other people have found ways of giving away original works and make money from doing so. Here a hint, your raving on this site, like that above, has convinced other readers of the site to avoid your software.
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Re: Re: Re:18
I don’t think they’re making any money.
But if I was not on this site, you wouldn’t even know the software exists. So current situation is better given that you actually know the software exists. That’s all that marketing can do, give you information about availability of the solutions. It’s your own issue if you reject the software for some broken reasons, and marketing cannot fix your piracy ideology where authors are starving and software market is struggling to move money forward.
Re: Re: Re:19
Well, of course they’re not. For one thing, mixtapes are, in fact, entirely legal. The RIAA has made money on mixtape-based content. And you don’t expect the RIAA to look into software piracy, so why expect the BSA to encroach on the RIAA’s territory?
There’s an argument to be made that showcasing of gaming footage is considered piracy, but unfortunately that argument is a very weak one. The act of watching someone else play a videogame does not give me a copy of the videogame that I can personally play with, therefore it doesn’t even meet the basic definition of what piracy is.
If something is free, it’s not pirated software. You can scream about this all you want but the world doesn’t follow your philosophy, unless you want to sue someone in court to establish some precedent.
It’s not the responsibility of others to tell you how rich they are, Tero.
Or I can simply choose not to use your software and boycott it instead because the software programmer acts like a douchebag who believes that people should donate their organs to make him richer. That has nothing to do with piracy, and is entirely legal.
Re: Re: Re:20
That’s like boycotting toilet paper. It’s theorethically possible, but end result is kinda dirty and smelly.
Re: Re: Re:21
Meshpage is not integral to the functions of society and the world. Certainly not to the extent that you think.
Re: Re: Re:22
If it had similar level of usage than youtube, it would be.
The technology in meshpage is not too different from the technology that youtube is using for serving video files, basically a black canvas that displays moving/animated content isn’t too different from whatever youtube uses for displaying videos.
The only reason why meshpage is struggling with popularity is that it came 15 years later than when youtube arrived to the market.
Re: Re: Re:23
“If”, you say. Seeing that it’s not, we don’t have to consider this scenario. It’s completely irrelevant to the discussion.
Your entire selling point of Meshpage is that it does what other video rendering tech already does, but in a different way so as to make piracy via Meshpage impossible.
You’ve consistently boasted that your tech is completely original. Now you’re saying it’s similar?
That’s how intellectual property works. If someone else files the patent before you, you don’t get the money.
Sounds like you’re just angry that intellectual property law didn’t favor you.
Re: Re: Re:11
Well, I guess you can deny the reality that already exists all you want. However, I doubt there are any lucid people who will take you seriously for it.
Re: Re: Re:10
*raises hand*
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Re: Re: Re:11
its not enough that “many” people get money for copyrighted works. Everyone on the planet need to have a way to get their expenses covered with the money. And current copyright system is nowhere near that.
Re: Re: Re:12
Because copyright, by itself, doesn’t guarantee payment. Your failure to understand this is precisely why you think an ad on a London bus means that everyone in Finland is obligated to pay you money for software that they don’t use.
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Re: Re: Re:13
There still exists government’s promise that copyright is the mechanism from which the compensation should be available from. Without copyright law, your activity cannot be recognized from watching tv or idling all day long, and there’s well documented history of working class people to despise people who do not work hard enough. And government itself has biases where those people are in poor situation when their activity is indistinguisable from laziness.
Re: Re: Re:14
Copyright doesn’t guarantee sales; strict enforcement of copyright wouldn’t prevent failure. Piracy doesn’t guarantee a lack of sales; stomping it out completely wouldn’t guarantee success.
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Re: Re: Re:15
But strict enforcement gives fair playing field. When failures happen, the people who couldn’t make it need to have assurances that the playing field was fair. Without strict copyright enforcement, you cannot claim that the playing field is fair for authors.
We know that the lottery does not have fair playing field, but house always wins. But creating copyrighted works shouldn’t be like that.
Piracy explicitly raises criminals to the podium and lets scammers, freeriders and other unwanted leeches to collect the rewards, when the rewards should be going to the people who created the best product from scratch.
Re: Re: Re:16
I can make a movie and Marvel can make a movie. But strict enforcement of copyright wouldn’t ever put my movie on the same level as a Marvel movie. The playing field was never, is never, and will never be fair—and anyone telling you otherwise is gaslighting you.
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Re: Re: Re:17
Yes, but Marvel created the material from scratch, when your movie was based on material from star wars.
Strict copyright enforcement would recognize that Marvel’s movie when created from scratch is bigger effort and needs more rewards than whatever your piracy collection+video editor on your home basement is able to collect.
Copyright makes it fair because freeriders gets worse position than people who spent 10 years of their time creating the material.
Basically freeriders didn’t need to spend those 10 years of their valuable time to create the material. And without copyright, they would have unfair advantage over people who are really authors.
Fair playing field is important property of any society that wants to avoid riots and criminal activity.
Re: Re: Re:18
I could run down all the ways your delusions are incredibly flawed, but trying to tear down your Emotional Support Reality isn’t worth the time and effort any more.
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Re: Re: Re:19
This isn’t necessary. We already have a map of the brain available. The software in meshpage has been built directly from my brain structure. It’s already been written to software source code. The map is available for download in the web page. And anyone who need to know why something works the way it does, can just check from the source code. So your additional mapping activity is not needed, and you can just jump to using the already available map information. But there is a warning, the brain map contains significant amount of details that are valid technologies in areas of the world other than where you’re currently at, so the dependencies could be very difficult to understand completely.
Basically you rejected the map when I asked you to build mansions, but it would have given you the answers you’re now trying to obtain.
Re: Re: Re:20
Please seek professional psychiatric help for your obvious (and obviously worsening) mentall illness.
Re: Re: Re:21
here’s a video for you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT81fe2IobI&ab_channel=MarkManson
Re: Re: Re:17
Here’s strict enforcement of copyright in action:
https://torrentfreak.com/u-s-govt-omi-in-a-hellcat-should-serve-15-5-years-for-pirate-iptv-scheme-230228/
So the filthy pirates are slowly getting to jail as expected.
Re: Re: Re:18
The person providing illicit IPTV services is getting nailed by law enforcement – not the hundreds or thousands of pirates who purchased his services and his tech. The odds are good that most pirates won’t be remotely affected.
Re: Re: Re:9
This would be a worthy remark if Meshpage had a single fan. As it is Meshpage isn’t even worth the data and Internet access spent to pirate it.
Adblockers would not have been so widespread, had data brokers and social media and websites who care very little about the security of their users’ computers not abused that trust. It’s not my responsibility to destroy my computer – which I paid money for – because you want to sell my privacy away for a quick buck.
Your own testimony has indicated multiple times that Meshpage is bugged, leaky, and unstable. You yourself tested it out on your systems. Again, it’s not the responsibility of random strangers on the Internet to cripple their own hardware for you.
You chose to market in London, where nobody knows who you are, instead of Finland. If you don’t even market in your own country, why do you expect your country’s government to give you money when your countrymen are clearly not your target audience?
You could work with a team, but you’ve already made it clear that you hate the idea of having to work with other people or share money with them.
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Re: Re: Re:10
You can’t have it both ways. On the other hand you claim that meshpage is bloated piece of software that takes too long time to download, but on the other hand you claim that there should be a team building more bloat to it. Both of these cannot be fulfilled simultaniously, either you need to allow larger downloads where users are spending hours downloading the material, or you need to drop the requirement that the software is created by a team.
We went with small team + small downloads simply because there was evidence that our programmers can write enough software source code to fill the maximum download amount that users are willing to wait for the software to download when they click open the web page.
When the feature combination is going to absurd result, you need to drop to lower level and handle the features independently without combining them.
Re: Re: Re:11
You want people using Meshpage, but you don’t want people to actually help you make it better.
You want money and mansions, but you don’t want to do the work that would actually get you those things.
You want widespread adoration and global attention, but you don’t want to make anything worthy of earning those things.
You can’t have it both ways either, Tero: Either put in the work—with other people!—to make Meshpage something beyond a glorified tech demo that every other 3D modeling application blows out of the water or give up your dreams of living in luxury. But for fuck’s sake, stop blaming everyone else for your inability to make something worth a good god’s damn.
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Re: Re: Re:12
1) water effect is one of the first requirements I got from internet
2) sadly that requirement is failing because we do not have solution for navier-stokes existence and smoothness problem.
3) navier-stokes solution is needed or else it cannot model turbulence in pixel-perfect way
4) “Blow out of water” means that the rendering must support the viscosity correctly, so that water droplets use surface tension to group together to form larger volumes of water
5) “3d modelling application blows out of water” means that the solution must work in a computer, so the solutions that are not available without computer is not suitable. For example splashing your hand to a lake does not implement the requirement.
6) “beyond a glorified tech demo” means that it must provide something else than displaying the 3d model on computer screen. Our solution to that problem is generating a zip file that contains the 3d engine, and can be unzipped to the hosting space of your choice.
7) “make Meshpage” this is the easy part, since I’m author of meshpage.
Re: Re: Re:13
Considering that you never had any users, this claim that you need to follow these requirements is extremely suspect.
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Re: Re: Re:14
Even if users do not like the end result, it doesn’t mean that I do not listen what is happening in internet. When internet tries to find reasons why they should not use my software, those reasons often have useful requirements that are part of customer’s life, and which could thus be used as a requirement for my project.
When that listening pattern has been running for last 10 years and I have implemented all the requirements found via that pattern, the customers who are truly comparing the feature lists will have trouble finding features that allow rejecting the project.
When their reject reasons are some bullshit that has nothing to do with the software features or quality of the implementation, we know we have succeeded in the task.
Re: Re: Re:15
Going by what can be seen from your comments on Github, the few times you actually listen to what is happening are only relevant when it comes to copyright-based lawsuits and cases, which you brag about like it’s going to bring an entire army of users to Meshpage. Engagement for your contributions and discussions is, by and large, completely non-existent. Meanwhile what you do here is nothing but insult everybody else for not recognizing your genius, so… this suggestion that you listen to anyone is incredibly suspect.
The fact that you gave yourself a pass is meaningless. No product seller is going to admit that their product has shortcomings, especially when that product is a scam trying to sell NFTs.
Re: Re: Re:16
Yes, when users lose access to their pirate sites, they need to find some other content to consume. Part of that traffic goes to legal sites that are available. Meshpage is one of those legal sites.
Then the only remaning fact to notice is that every legal site becomes illegal over time when they get more users using it. So expect youtube, twitch, facebook, twitter etc to be soon targeted by the copyright owners, and when those “popular” sites close, it’s always opportunity for meshpage.
Re: Re: Re:17
I’m going to make a guess that despite the shutdowns you keep boasting about, Meshpage’s user count has not risen at all. At best, even if we were to take your claims at face value, users move onto other sites more interesting than Meshpage. For certain, nobody is going to think that Meshpage is a suitable replacement for an illicit Game of Thrones stream.
Praying for your competition to go out of business is not the winning strategy you think it is. Because it’s something that your competition can do, just like the business trends in Japan. At some point you’re going to have to suck it up and pay your employees more instead of praying that the companies who are compensating their employees properly run out of money.
Re: Re: Re:18
Guess none of the legal stuff is suitable replacement for illicit streams. But I guess switching to different sites and following location of piratebay and trying to find broken torrent urls get tiring and many of the pirates are thinking when they get older about how to get rid of the illegal practices. And then carefully placed meshpage.org announcement might turn them into lawabiding citizens like we would want to see them being.
Re: Re: Re:19
Or if a pirate loses access to a pirated Game of Thrones stream, they’re going to look for… legal access to Game of Thrones. They’re not going to visit Meshpage for this.
No? What that means is pirates just look for alternative ways to access the content they want. Or switch to other platforms to stream their content. Or ask other sources. Or just switch to other kinds of content altogether. They’re not going to spontaneously start converting into anti-piracy agents.
Considering the only placed meshpage.org announcement was one London bus ad, it’s extremely unlikely anyone sees it.
Re: Re: Re:11
Nowhere has anyone claimed that you should add more bloat to Meshpage. If anything, an actual team would have given you insights on quality assurance testing, doublechecking your code to identify where your memory leaks are coming from, and so on. It’s like you said yourself: you can’t expect one person to fix all the problems. Nobody expects you to fix all the problems with Meshpage, but unless those problems are fixed, I see no reason to give you free money for software I don’t intend to use.
I will keep reminding you every single time: you don’t have a team because you hate working with other people, so you can stop lying to us that you have a “small team”.
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Re: Re: Re:12
This is the most hilarious response I’ve heard in a while. So the supposed team wasn’t needed to fix featuregaps in the engine like building competition that beats nanite from unreal engine, but instead you’d use the expensive team to doublechecking the code…
Basically it undermines all your trolling about blenders and unreal engine’s features being so much better and usage of the engine being impossible because it doesn’t implement all features that the competition is able to get done. But no, you wanted expensive team to doublecheck the codebase.
Basically you’re consider our programmers (==me) an idiot who cannot write software. You need to immediately stop using that assumption, since it is completely wrong. There’s very rigorous testing ongoing in the engine and given that you never even got cube to the screen with the builder, you wouldn’t figure out that if I can get pixel-perfect result on rendering, the logic underlying the rendering must be fucking perfect.
You need to learn to trust other people. This distrust that you’re showing means that you’re completely impossible to work with, given that you’ll keep verifying other people’s source code 30 times before accepting that the original version was already good.
Re: Re: Re:13
No no, you can write software. You’re just not very good at it—because if you were, Meshpage would be useable software instead of a punchline to your joke of a life.
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Re: Re: Re:14
how is it not useable:
1) The builder has user interface
2) the interface can display text and graphics
3) there’s features like scrolling, selecting element, dragging, menus, menu item selections, actions on menu items, property dialogs, 3d view dialogs.
4) the 3d engine can display large number of different 3d scenes
5) the software has URL inputs
6) it can load png/jpg files
7) it can slurp data from network via urls
8) it has caching to speed up operations and make performance acceptable
9) the key event response times have been optimized
10) the software has outputs to zip files and 3d model files
11) the software can parse obj,stl,gltf,zip files
12) there’s lots of conversions between data structures
I think there is enough features for one person in the software already.
Re: Re: Re:15
Then teach a student to use it. You’ve already said that we’re not the target audience, because you think adults are idiots.
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Re: Re: Re:16
I tried it already by offering you chance of creating mansions with the builder tool. You didn’t see the value of the activity. Your chance of getting a product of your own was lost during that process.
Yes, you got idiot-label by rejecting clear invitation to get your own product and falling back to your old piracy practices.
Re: Re: Re:17
Once again, you demonstrate your own refusal to actually teach your target audience anything. I’m not a student. From the very beginning, you’ve dismissed anything and everything other adults have had to say. Don’t try and lie that you wanted to teach us when you never had the intention of doing so, Tero.
You’re just looking for victims to fleece.
Re: Re: Re:13
Who told you a team wasn’t needed to fix missing features? You’re the one who insisted on keeping things lean by sticking to one developer, i.e. you. And if you think a single person cannot be expected to solve all the problems, why is having a team such an unsavory option for you? Of course, we know why that would be the case, because you can’t stand the idea of working with or paying other people. Now, nobody suggested that the team needs to be expensive. You’re free to pay them however much you wish, but if the coders are anything like you I imagine they’re not going to settle for low pay.
3D modelers do tend to expect that 3D modeling software can do, at a baseline, everything that software like Maya and Blender can do, so… that’s not trolling. That’s realistically the baseline you should be shooting for, not simply having a software that looks briefly nice on the outside while being completely unusable beyond a point.
Well, you’re not wrong there. You’ve demonstrated on many occasions to have plenty of illusions, such as having a secret code that converts humans into robots. Calling you an “idiot” is being excessively polite, more than you deserve.
Coming from the Finnish knuckledragger who openly refuses to work with a team and goes out of his way to live 15km away from other humans, I have no need for your spurious lectures. You don’t trust any other humans beyond treating them as a source of money.
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Re: Re: Re:14
My software is based on this kind of conversions. One of the most important conversions is the conversion from sketchfab’s 3d model to the zip file that can be uncompressed to your hosting space and get a working web page as the result.
But I have 600 conversions like this, the human-to-robot conversion is just one of the difficult-to-implement ones. The ones that I have managed to implement to the software are already available in my engine releases.
Re: Re: Re:15
If such technology already worked, you’d have a functioning demonstration – not the kind of trailer that looks like a screensaver trying to masquerade as a 1st year game development student’s engine proof.
The human-to-robot conversion you claim to be code is another demonstration of your psychopathy and blithe disregard for the welfare of other humans.
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Re: Re: Re:16
I don’t have 1 such demonstration. I have 170 of them. There’s 2^{600} combinations available in my library and I have chosen 170 of them to be avaiable in meshpage and my offering available for pirates. The possibilities with the technology are even larger than that, since every one of my 600 nodes have float parameters which can be freely chosen, and those have tons more alternative combinations when you choose float to be 0.0, 1.0, 2.0, 3.0, 3.1, 3.2,3.21, etc… Thus the available combinations is enormous. It just takes people who want to create mansions to choose appropriate parameter set to get more rendering results. But guess you rejected the mansion offering when it was made available, so you wouldn’t know this information.
Re: Re: Re:17
You can keep trying to disguise it as an “offering”, but the truth is you’re vainly trying to get people to pay you to be your freelance slaves. That’s why your “human-to-robot” converter won’t work – because if it did work, you’d have shown it already as a proof of concept.
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Re: Re: Re:18
I never claimed that I am able to create it. It requires so advanced technology that it is not available to mere mortals like myself.
Given that I myself cannot create it — it is huge effort to even know it exists; that’s how advanced technology is needed.
But I have seen it used to ordinary people and can guarantee that the technology is clearly working. It’s just so hidden and unknown technology that noone knows it exists. Damn aliens and ufo’s are more well known than this stuff.
Re: Re: Re:19
If it’s not available, then you have no reason to boast about having this capability.
It is not a huge effort to imagine farfetched, exaggerated nonsense. It is not a huge effort to lie about having it. You’ve boasted for years that Meshpage was capable of converting humans to robots.
You’ve seen it, but it’s hidden and unknown. That’s how people know you’re lying.
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Re: Re: Re:20
This isn’t true. The feature is not available via meshpage. Instead it is available via a box that disappeared. All our knowledge comes through that box and inside it googling for answers was forbidden. Meshpage’s technology is based on the same technology, but the human-to-robot conversion is too advanced for me to implement since it requires actual hardware knowledge and I’m just doing software.
Re: Re: Re:21
I am begging you to seriously seek professional psychiatric help as soon as possible. This is not an insult; this is a sincere request made only because you have an obvious mental illness.
Re: Re: Re:22
And you can detect this from 3 thousand miles away?
Re: Re: Re:23
You don’t actually make it subtle.
I personally don’t think you have a mental illness, you are genuinely that obnoxious and that unpleasant to be around in real life, which is why you had to move 15km away from all humans because nobody wants you around.
Re: Re: Re:24
You shouldn’t waste important subtle pattern on humans. Place those patterns where they belong: inside gadgets.
Re: Re: Re:25
Thanks for letting us all know you like flaunting your insanity and or assholishness.
Please put some pants on in either case.
Re: Re: Re:7
What community guidelines on Techdirt are you claiming are being violated here? Your team is full of people who have made very open threats to sue and rape people who don’t believe in copyright maximalism, for one. But those comments are left online, because such comments aren’t consider to violate any guidelines. If open threats are fine, I highly doubt content you object to is considered as violating.
Meshpage hasn’t bettered humankind at all for some very clear reasons. One, you hate humankind, so any claim you make that humankind benefited from anything you did is immediately suspect. Two, nobody used Meshpage – at best they used products based on engines that were the precursor of your Meshpage work, for which you were already paid when you worked at Nokia. It’s not the responsibility of other countries to fund your mansion.
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Re: Re: Re:8
I never asked money for the mansion. The mansion plan was supposed to create those mansions from scratch using the tools that were already available. It doesn’t say anything about money.
Re: Re: Re:9
This is true: Whiny-ass entitled-as-hell demands aren’t technically requests.
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Re: Re: Re:8
On average, it takes 70 years after author’s death before investment to copyrighted works are starting to pay off the investment. While it’s long term plan, it’s clearly profitable activity. Without those copyrigted works that were created in 1900s, we wouldn’t have LoTR or star wars. I expect our meshpage project’s eventual output will be useful in the future too, assuming it survives that long time.
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Re: Re: Re:8
The rule which says:
1) when avatars and user names are made available to the public by the techdirt staff for your pleasure,
2) you should not misuse that priviledge,
3) when the avatar’s main purpose is to identify people,
4) it should not be used for improper purposes, including
5) harrasment, filtering of posts, cursing other people, group-marking of posts as invalid, flagging of posts based on avatar instead of actual content, etc..
Basically these are clearly listed in techdirt’s terms of service. Once you misuse the avatar and user name features, those features are getting scrutiny whether the features themselves are working as intended, or if the people misunderstand why the features have been implemented as they are in the implementation.
Re: Re: Re:9
(emphasis mine). It sounds like you are complaining that you earned a reputation for spamming, and them people started flagging you as spam without reading your comment.
If so… you are not in a very sympathetic position. Earning a bad reputation would be due your own actions.
I will also note: As far as I know, there is not ToS that applies to the spam button (or to the insightful/funny buttons either).
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Re: Re: Re:10
Yeah, living next to russia’s border, so the english words have sometimes errors in it is enough for you to reject the whole person.
Then there’s copyright minimisation pattern which you think is so important that you’re not willing to listen any other alternatives.
And then you failed to create any copyrighted works on your own, so you need to reject anyone who actually tries to do something else than watch star trek from tv.
Then your mom is still carrying all the food to your table, so you have no idea how nice people can get food to their table, so you need to be mean all the time so that you have any chance of not starving when you get older.
Re: Re: Re:11
Are there any translators here?
Or is like really about 60% gibberish? The remainder seems to be an attempt at an insult, I guess? I mean getting to on a daily bases would be pretty cool.
PS. Under current US copyright law this comment is… copyrighted, and thus I have created copyright contented. But please go ahead and believe this is the only copyright work I will ever create, your fever dreams are actually pretty funny.
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Re: Re: Re:12
I just read a decision by US copyright office where they explicitly rejected copyright from a person that typed to the prompt of midjourney and got an image as a result. Supposedly the selection of those prompt keywords (or google’s search keywords) is insufficient for copyright protection at least in situations where an image is the end result. Supposedly there needs to be more manual work involved in deciding the pixels of the image before you can get image copyright based on short text prompts.
I expect your comment to have similar kind of problems. The length of it is just too short, and if you would register it with copyright office, they would just think that you’re wasting their valuable time, when they could be handling copyrights of someone who spent 10 years creating the material.
Re: Re: Re:13
Allow me to answer in haiku (which are totally eligable for copyright):
copyright on this too
registration unneeded
but will you listen?
Re: Re: Re:9
You repeatedly asked for it in the time before you were silly enough to make a signed-in account and your comments could be tracked. I’m not the only one who remembers this.
If this were actually the case, I promise you no one would ever invest in any author’s works or produce them on the author’s behalf. Corporations typically make investments because the people making investments would rather the profit is made during their actual lifetime.
Except LoTR was released in the 1950s and Star Wars a few decades after that. Even if you claim that they were inspired by works created from 1900 to 1909, they were independent enough such that neither LoTR nor Star Wars committed copyright infringement.
And if it doesn’t survive, who’s going to get paid exactly? Why is it our responsibility to give you money for a product we don’t use?
No such rule exists, or you’d have cited where you found the rule instead of making stuff up.
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Re: Re: Re:10
It would be better pattern than the one you’re now using with all the pirated material and hidden server farms that keep jumping from domain to domain while content owners gets your domains blocked.
Re: Re: Re:11
what the actual fuck are you even talking about now, you goddamn moron
Re: Re: Re:12
He’s referring to the recent Z-Library update. Following a shutdown by the US government, Z-Library now gives all members a unique domain by which they can access free e-books.
Re: Re: Re:11
Cute of you to assume that we’re all pirates purely on the basis that nobody else here agrees with you. But if your accusations of copyright infringement were worth anything, you’d have sued people already. The best you have is shaking your fist and screaming at the sky.
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Re: Re: Re:12
Copyright minimalist practices are indication of illegal activity, i.e. they become copyright minimalists when they learn that copying the material from pirate sources is more efficient pattern than purchasing the same material from authorised vendor of the material. Once they’ve learned that, the story is lost for very long time, until they start creating their own copyrighted works and sees the other side of the equation. But using pirate sources is the “lazy” pattern, I’ve constantly accused of you being lazy and even tested if it is truly so.
At this point, the illegal activity has been completely checked from you.
Re: Re: Re:13
Only in your diseased mind.
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Re: Re: Re:14
but you didn’t read the full reasoning, once you read it, you’ll realize that your copyright minimisation pattern is based on the same flawed practice of downloading pirated material and noticing how convinient the pirate system is when you don’t need to look for authorised vendors.
Re: Re: Re:15
Claiming over and over again that people didn’t read your full “reasoning” isn’t going to make it true.
In fact, reading your full “reasoning” is exactly how readers know that all you do is whine that nobody is worshipping you enough, and you have no regard for other people beyond their ability to give you money.
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Re: Re: Re:16
This has nothing to do with the reason why YOU use copyright minimisation. If you don’t accept my analysis of the reason, you should provide your side of the story and not try to avoid the question. Your question avoidance makes me more strongly suspect that there is something illegal behind your copyright minimisation.
Re: Re: Re:17
It has nothing to do with the reason, because unlike what you claim, I don’t believe in copyright “minimisation” as you put it.
For starters, disagreeing with your copyright maximalist views does not mean that a person is a copyright “minimist”. But relevant to the topic at hand, my side of the story is as follows:
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Re: Re: Re:18
The damage award of 150k per infringement is coming from the amount of money that needs to be passed from the pirates to the authors to “fix” the damage they caused. I.e. when your author is starving because noone purchased their material since everyone already had the material available via pirate sources, the author’s compensation need to account the copyright owners initial investment, how the invesment amount was divided to customers, and how how many customers the author lost because of piracy of the material. Basically the numbers could be something like(meshpage’s numbers):
1) 10 years effort, 150,000e investment
2) sales effort 2100e for bus ads
3) there is 2 paying customers, each payed $3
4) there’s current no piracy since noone is interested in the material
But as you can see, the time and money investment is significant for authors. And that’s for one person. Copyright law needs to work with large teams too, and that 150,000 number needs to be multiplied by the number of people in the team..
Now you know where the large numbers are coming from. The damage award is NOT the value of the stolen product(since the price that is offered to customers were already divided by the number of possible customers), but instead it would be the amount of money the pirate needs to pay to create the same material from scratch, i.e. the hole that the first guy who created the material is_already_in. When pirates take away his licensing money, that hole becomes permanent and soon the activity must stop since the author needs to find 150,000 euros worth of extra money from somewhere.
Re: Re: Re:19
whatever drugs you’re taking, they’re not working
Re: Re: Re:19
This… is not how businesses work, which you would have known if you actually ran a team. People who work on such projects get paid, up front, for their time. If every person who contributed to every aspect of every instance of every product was compensated if that product is ever shoplifted, fines for theft would exceed the amount of money that exists in the global economy.
If the large numbers were the cost of what it actually takes to develop such works, judges would make those awards – but they don’t.
Re: Re: Re:20
Well, that 150,000 number is just my food costs for the 10 year timeframe. Given that I’ve just sit idly at home and eat hamburgers all day while writing some software, I expect other people to spend alot more for food and gadgets and cars and rent etc. Thus this is good per-person cost for a team.
Re: Re: Re:15
Don’t openly piss on my leg and tell me I did it to myself, Tero.
Re: Re: Re:13
That’s not wrong. In some cases, like the Sony rootkit incident, pirate sources were actually safer than the original, because the original Sony CDs in the mid-2000s would install malware that intentionally crippled the computers they were inserted into just to prevent potential piracy despite being legitimate purchases. Same reason why people wisely use an adblocker when browsing the Internet. Just like having sex, you’d have to be intentionally masochistic to not consider using some level of protection.
Stories get lost when copyright holders refuse to preserve original recordings and filmstrips, instead letting them rot away in archives. It’s only thanks to the efforts of pirates and archivists that media from the late 20th century have been preserved at all. Folks who have grown up in the era of producing mixtapes do not share the same kind of extremist “Home Taping is Killing Music” perspective as you do.
The one thing you’ve tested is if people here want to use Meshpage, and having evaluated your own comments and intentions you clearly want everyone to not only work for you for free, but pay you for the “privilege” of providing unwarranted free labor. Forget it.
The illegal activity originates from copyright enforcers who think that their actions are above the law, but the arrest of your heroes in Prenda Law and Malibu Media prove that this is not the case.
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Re: Re: Re:14
Funny that you bring this up here. Mixtapes, fast movies, mix&matching hollywood movies in youtube are one of the worst kind of piracy I’ve seen in long time. Basically none of their published material was created by the person who uploaded it to youtube. Some of the material even had “cracked by hoodlum” signs in them, showing where the material came from, i.e. someone’s piracy collection. They had not even purchased the original movie/game that they ripoff. Not to mention that publishing the snippets would be completely illegal.
Basic requirement for publishing material in youtube, would be to have ownership of the material. This means that US copyright office would accept your copyright registration. And in case of ripped/mixtapes/fast movies/hollywood movie snippets, the copyright office simply wouldn’t be giving you copyright ownership of the material for the reason that you didn’t create the material yourself. There is a recent paperwork where copyright office simply refused to give artificial intelligence generated works copyright ownership, simply because humans didn’t create it, and thus the author had not created the material themselves, when some automated computer system generated the material. For similar reasons, these mixtapes would not be receiving copyright ownership of the material.
Thus these mixtapes and hollywood movie ripoffs shouldn’t be posted to youtube at all. While youtube is currently full of this crap and google is unable to remove them from circulation, doesn’t mean that it’s allowed to post them to youtube.
Re: Re: Re:15
No, they’re probably not. Do you think every single person or news outlet created the footage that they report on?
Your hatred of the fact that using a certain amount of content qualifies as fair use is strong as ever, and watching you lose your composure continues to be hilarious.
This much is accurate, but not because the material was pirated. It’s because the material was created by an AI, and the courts already ruled that AIs, like animals, can’t hold copyright.
The problem you have about suing over this on copyright grounds is that the original creator of the content that the mixtape was based on would, likewise, not hold the copyright to the finished mixtape. It remains to be seen whether you can sue on copyright grounds, but it’s not likely that creators will succeed on this count.
Regardless, your team has had several decades to sue over mixtapes, and each of those attempts have failed miserably. The truth is, people don’t like it when you tell them that doing things with their legally purchased content is bad, and you failed to convince judges that you were right. Fair use still exists, and you can continue to be angry about it.
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Re: Re: Re:16
There is simple procedure to analyze this situation. Basically you can draw “invisible” line around the area of the work that the author created themselves. While the border between “created yourself” and “other content” can be complicated, this analysis is known to always succeed.
Same kind of border can be drawn to area where “content was correctly licensed” vs “pirated content where license was not obtained”… Now every copyrighted work can be analyzed based on these two invisible borders.
How does your mixtapes survive in this analysis:
1) there’s very little area what was created by the author
2) most of the material belongs to the area “not licensed properly”.
3) the material that was not licensed properly is the most expensive part, i.e. all kinds of movie blockbuster special effects which costs millions to create, but again is in “not licensed properly” area.
Re: Re: Re:17
Unfortunately for you, such a claim does not pass legal muster for the simple reason that fair use exists and mixtapes are entirely legal.
If this border were so analyzed, why did you use illegally licensed 3D models of Scott Cawthon’s work until it was pointed out to you? Clearly, you have done no such analysis on your part.
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Re: Re: Re:18
Sure, but do you know where I learned that trick? The internet nicely posted copyright office’s response to someone’s copyright registration application. So it comes from the devil itself, i.e. the official place where copyrights need to be registered if you want to get statutory damages for your material. Without this registration people’s lawsuits are reduced to mere actual damages, i.e. the stuff that you have been demanding all the time. See how carefully that analysis crafts the limits of copyright protection? Only the stuff that you created yourself gets the best possible protection.
Well, I did have a license to the material, but from wrong author. I.e. the analysis that I ran still gave valid results, when the material was supposedly properly licensed.
Well, I had slightly different analysis, i.e. effort calculation. But the border stuff that copyright office is using seems as good as whatever I was using. Effort calculation on the other hand focuses the amount of effort it takes to create the material — i.e. it doesn’t look at author’s identity or anything like that, just the effort.
Re: Re: Re:19
And it’s entirely your fault that you didn’t dig past the surface. Blaming other people for your failures is a childish way of thinking.
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Re: Re: Re:20
Nope. You’re forgetting that to arrive that result, you need some middleman who publishes the product and lies about its origin.
Are you claiming that the lies from the middleman should be blamed to me instead of the middleman?
Re: Re: Re:21
Again: It’s your fault you didn’t look past the middleman. Don’t blame others for your failures, child.
Ib id.
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Re: Re: Re:22
You’re not doing any better:
1) your youtube usage is clearly illegal for publishing immediately without checking for copyright infringements
2) your free software usage is clearly illegal since they don’t move money around and pay license fees
3) your mixing and matching of hollywood movies and fast movies and mixtapes are clearly illegal since the material is unlicensed
4) Your twitch.tv usage is illegal because some boxing and football associations has found you using pirate streams to watch their ongoing matches.
Re: Re: Re:23
you have actually lost your actual goddamn mind; Mike should ban you from this site to save you from yourself
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Re: Re: Re:24
You didn’t like it when your failures are pointed to you?
Re: Re: Re:25
Of course people don’t do any better, because you personally insisted on dictating standards higher than anyone is capable of meeting. Case in point, you failed to check the copyright licensing. If you can’t fulfill your copyright rules, it’s not a surprise when nobody can.
You can keep trying to insist that free software is illegal, Tero, and that won’t make it true, or convince people to start abandoning Blender in favor of Meshpage.
Re: Re: Re:26
This isn’t true. I can myself follow the “impossible standards”. It’s pretty simple operation, you just choose practices which are generally accepted as legal. For example fair use and relying on copyright’s exceptions still are controversial and thus doesn’t meet the requirements. Instead the practices could be like
1) tracking licenses in your software
2) documenting author names
3) good copyright notices
4) licenses have been obtained
5) quoting other people’s contributions
6) bibliography information available
7) creating the products yourself instead of using other people’s work
8) praising other people’s work instead of bashing it
9) preventing misuse of the products
10) preventing pirate groups from using the product for illegal activities
11) preventing criminals from using the products for illegal activities
12) collecting money from the customers
13) creating battle chest with gold coins
These all are clearly “possible and feasible” requirements, the list has nothing that is absolutely impossible to implement.
Re: Re: Re:27
But you failed. You may claim to have chosen those practices, but the result is that you still committed copyright infringement. How you got there doesn’t matter, because Scott Cawthon is still legally allowed to sue you over your count of infringement.
Fair use isn’t controversial; you’re simply too lazy and dishonest to account for it.
Re: Re: Re:28
Accounting fair use isn’t necessary. Both parties will need to spend millions on lawyer’s fees before courts are willing to handle fair use arguments, and thus people who do not have millions of bucks in their bank account, the fair use simply does not exist. It’s only for the rich and powerful.
Re: Re: Re:29
Not to mention that before courts are willing to handle your fair use argument, you need to admit copyright infringement. That’s like gambling, only small chance of winning and if you lose, you lose all your wealth.
Basically relying on fair use is significant copyright failure.
Re: Re: Re:30
Or you could avoid this simply by acknowledging that fair use exists and avoid paying millions of dollars from screwing over someone innocent.
The implication of fair use only existing for people with the money to fight it extends to copyright as well. If it takes millions of dollars to fight copyright law, it takes the same amount of money to enforce it. And… you do not want to go down that road. It would mean that you’d be incapable of defending Meshpage’s copyright.
You do not. If fair use applies, no copyright infringement has occurred.
The first gamble that happens is this: will the plaintiff actually go ahead in a lawsuit? Most of them won’t. There are very few copyright holders who will, in your own words, spend millions of dollars on lawyers. Especially if it’s to go after an alleged copyright infringer who likely only has a few hundred bucks.
You can keep claiming this and it won’t make it true. Fair use is why, I wager, you even had access to half the learning materials and other content you had over the years. Because someone allowed you access to that content, instead of asking the police to arrest you in case you might have committed copyright infringement.
Re: Re: Re:21
It’s what your stricter copyright laws demand. According to you, you should have known ahead of time to check whether the materials violated copyright. Clearly, you didn’t. So yes, if we were to respect the imaginary stricter copyright laws that you believe exists, you would have to be punished. The fact that you refuse to be punished is proof that the laws do not exist.
Re: Re: Re:22
There’s always the magic rabbit defense, modeled after the chewbacca defense.
There is better option for this, I could use your copyright minimisation pattern and declare that I don’t need to follow copyrights at all, since I’m the ruler of the world and your mortal rules do not apply to me.
Obviously your fair use rules apply to this pattern, and at the same time we can declare copyright law invalid/against the constitution.
Uh oh. Then next step is to figure out how to get living for 2 billion authors on the planet.
Re: Re: Re:23
And under your stricter copyright laws, you’d have your brains blown out and your organs harvested anyway.
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Re: Re: Re:24
Now that we used your copyright minimisation pattern, it becomes your responsibility as the owner of the process to figure out how the 2 billion authors get their compensation from the market USING YOUR COPYRIGHT MINIMISATION PATTERN.
Re: Re: Re:25
yawn
real world counter examples: many of the most prevalent and advanced (and rapidly advancing) software technologies do not use, or event need, copyright to fund them.
So reality itself disagrees with your delusional opinion that heavy copyright fees are needed for authors to live.
Furthermore if you used a web browser today, odds are extremely high that you used those pieces of software.
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Re: Re: Re:26
So, now you’ve moved from “copyright’s limitations are too harsh for us” to the “compensation for creating copyrighted works is not needed”…
This position of yours is extreamly dangerous. Why you can still think that stupid way is because you do not know government’s next steps in this pattern: they will make you yourself test your theory. You need to become an author and get your living by creating copyrighted works. And your only protection against evil world is the copyright law.
This probably explains why copyright law is so important.
Re: Re: Re:27
[assertion of facts no in evidence]
And just for your knowledge. The internet run on Libre/open source software. Tons of people make money (often LOTS of money) without needing to use copyright to do so. In fact Android, one of Google’s major products is built of AOSP. Some of which is open source software Google themselves wrote. In other words Google found it made business sense to them to NOT exercise some of their copyrights.
And For your information I haven’t “switched” because I’m not the only person commenting here.
So you can yell and scream all you want, but the fact is: there is lots of ways to make money from “authorship”. Lots of people are paid (often very very well) to write Libre software. You can look up “linux kernel developer” job postings. I know a large number of those go into the six figure USD. The fact that you haven’t figured out how to make money doesn’t reflect anything notable on the system itself.
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Re: Re: Re:28
Good luck with this pattern. These people didn’t have money to pay proper salaries. Our salary demand was 4200e/month, they offered 2800e/month, and they could only afford that 2800 number for one year duration, and then they had to stop the project. Basically the linux open source folks are all struggling with money.
Re: Re: Re:29
So you overcharged a client and fucked them to the point they ran out of money to pay you. That’s not a surprise. Copyright law wouldn’t have helped you there, either.
Re: Re: Re:30
It shows the laziness of the open source community. They simply never bothered to handle money collection.
Re: Re: Re:31
Open source projects have donation systems, mate. Whether those systems are profitable is another topic for discussion, but when it all boils down, it sounds like you’re just angry and bitter that those projects get more money than Meshpage does.
Re: Re: Re:32
Well, I used to do open source development when I was younger and still I’m not richer than george soros.
Re: Re: Re:25
Other people’s issues with being unable to sell their works aren’t my problem.
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Re: Re: Re:26
Children often have this idea that getting food to the table is not their problem. When you get past your teenager years, the requirement to find food from the market becomes their responsibility, whether they considered it their problem or not. Later that same pattern turns into requirement to create useful features to the world. Then later you need to be able to create a product on your own, without nasa’s help. Then even later, you need to get your own product sold in the markets and get money for food via your own work.
See where it goes, the requirements are getting stricter and stricter all the time. But you’re complaining that copyright’s requirements are too strict, but without that strictness, you can’t survive in the above process any longer than 2 days or so.
Re: Re: Re:27
People can go their entire lives without making a single creative work. Even if they do make one, putting a product on the shelf doesn’t guarantee it’ll be sold. Copyright doesn’t guarantee success; piracy doesn’t guarantee failure.
Also: Please seek professional psychiatric help for your obvious mental illness.
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Re: Re: Re:28
There is other side of the equation:
1) creating a product takes time
2) time is money
3) so after creating a product, there’s expectation to receive money
4) the system expects that to receive money, you need to sell the product
5) shelf placement is difficult to obtain
6) marketing eats tons of money, and the money
isn’t exactly available when the product is
finished.
7) The entities that was called “publishers” are no longer active
8) even if you find a publisher, their contract terms are onerous and doesn’t guarantee money
Re: Re: Re:29
Expectations are disappointments planned in advance. Also: Nothing has ever been a surefire never-fail guarantor of income.
You are in need of professional psychiatric help.
Re: Re: Re:29
Yeah, publishers go out of business too, or they decide to stop publishing your work. Piracy could disappear overnight, and it won’t start forcing publishers to carry your product.
If anything, the only reason why older products like your Amiga games hold any relevance today is because pirates are emulating them on third-party systems. If it wasn’t for pirates, there’d be no more relevance that Tero Pulkinnen has on the world.
Re: Re: Re:30
The publishing activity could be profitable if piracy disappered.
Re: Re: Re:23
It’s not copyright minimization, and technically, you could decide what those rules are. I don’t call myself the ruler of the world, but your egomania certainly sounds accurate to your idiocy.
Copyright law hasn’t figured that out, either, never mind that authors do not number 2 billion.
Re: Re: Re:24
There’s 1.2 billion web sites on the planet, and every one of them has an author. By pigeon-hole-principle, there’s at least 1.2 billion authors just in the web page business. And the world is producing alot other copyrighted works than just web pages.
Re: Re: Re:25
Or those sites can be made by the same web design companies and copywriters, or a single person can make several webpages by themselves. And yet, not a single one of them has relied on Meshpage or your technology to launch their pages. That’s what makes you angry, because people aren’t giving you money for free.
Re: Re: Re:26
This is incorrect. Assuming you don’t count meshpage.org, there’s still at least dinoengine.com.
Re: Re: Re:11
Or I could just not use both and not be beholden to your ridiculous demands.
Re: Re: Re:9
Hey, dipshit: You aren’t owed the privilege of not having your dumb bullshit flagged. Don’t blame us when it’s you who has the problems of:
Nobody here will ever support you, not even ironically. Nobody here will ever actually use your software, no matter how much you act like it’s God’s gift to computing. You’re only here to troll this site, which means you’re only here to hurt people—and nobody likes people who try to intentionally hurt other people. So if you don’t want to deal with people hiding your posts and filtering you out because of who you are and what you say and do, leave this site forever.
Or stay and keep watching your posts get flagged into oblivion. Your choice, shitbird.
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So you want me to leave simply because I found out that you’re misusing the site’s features? Is the ground under your feet starting to burn enough, I expect you to flee the country twice, just like Julian Assange did when his activity got revealed in the press.
Re: Re: Re:11
I don’t respond to otherwording. Address what the fuck I actually said or fuck off back to your basement.
Re: Re: Re:11
You’ve found nothing but a desperate hope to accuse people of breaking laws that don’t exist outside your own fever dreams.
Continue being a lonely fucknugget desperate for the government of Finland to suck him off. At least out there in the wilderness, you won’t be able to cause substantial harm to wider society.
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So you actually went to the idea that I warned earlier. This is the spraypainting other people’s garage walls. While creating copyrighted works is important activity, there are limits of what you can use as a base for your work. Material owned by other people, for example the garage door shouldn’t be used as a base for your painting, even if it increased the value of the painting.
Re: Re: Re:13
Actually the rest of us have legal jobs and legal hobbies that don’t involve using the trash heap that is your software.
You can whine about it to the Finnish judicial system, and it still won’t help you.
Re: Re: Re:14
This is why you fail. The technology is clearly available in the market. The fact that you cannot utilize emerging technology solutions means that you’re falling behind rest of the society. Three dimensional web pages is clearly the future. Meshpage is one of the first services that allow 3d content to be published in web pages. It’s a failure when these technologies are being rejected for no good reasons simply because you have a grudge against some person who developed the technology.
Re: Re: Re:11
My guy, people want you to leave because you’re an incorrigible psychopath who thinks we should all be murdered and organ-harvested to fund your dream lifestyle.
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Re: Re: Re:12
If you don’t want that outcome, you shouldn’t be horrible corn children who are guaranteed to get chopped off by the harvest.
Re: Re: Re:13
Not everyone lives in the horrific Stephen King dreamscape you want us to live in.
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Re: Re: Re:14
Don’t worry, when you get older, you’ll too see it. Everyone is bound to die at some point, and the Stephen King dreamscape is right before that.
Re: Re: Re:15
If you want to live in a world filled with horror, that’s your choice. If you want to live an existence inspired by a religious cult of children, that’s your choice. You should have had your throat cut when you were 18, just like the children of the corn you want.
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We didn’t even give this fate to the people who were clearly criminal robbers with a knife. They got 110+50 euro damage award that they have not yet paid. I’m still waiting for my money.
I didn’t want it, but it’s the real world.
Re: Re: Re:17
You’re the one who wants to harvest organs in the name of copyright enforcement.
Bitch to your government, not me.
The real world has no such need nor prevalence for cults like the ones in your head.
You were the one who chose to live 15km away from the nearest human. No one needs, or wants your Meshpage. Go marry it and make it your wife, it’s clearly the only thing that holds some semblance of value for you.
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Yes, but it’s quite interesting that you in your wisdom didn’t find the main problem in this organ harvesting business: The “harvest of the corn children” is very near the topic of the existing copyrighted works by Stephen King. I.e. it kinda borrows the concept from existing work.
There are significant reasons behind this decision:
1) ludumdare decided the “harvest” keyword
2) our ceo decided the organ concept
3) there’s basically automatic link from “harvest” to “corn”
3) I decided corn children concept since we wanted horror
4) our ceo decided that Trump needs to be the player character
5) our ceo added axe to the trump character
6) I used AI to create some graphics
So multiple different concepts came together to focus on the organ harvesting concept.
Re: Re: Re:19
Only you would openly and gleefully admit to wanting someone’s organs harvested by the government if they downloaded an illicit MP3.
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No, the games that we create are predictions of what will happen in the future. We cannot change the outcome of these predictions any more than we can prevent elon musk from launching rockets or microsoft from creating new versions of windows. In a same kind of manner, they cannot prevent me from creating new versions of builder tool. Our games will just record the current state of the world and makes them fixed to a medium in a way that leaves future people clear path of how similar systems can be built from scratch in the future.
Re: Re: Re:21
are you suffering from brain damage now, what the fuck
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Re: Re: Re:22
The rabbit hole is deeper than you think.
Re: Re: Re:21
Refusing to own up to your murderous intentions won’t stop people from boycotting Meshpage out of moral principle, Tero.
It’s only a matter of time before you start suing someone for not giving you money, and you’ll find yourself locked up for being a danger to society.
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I hope you’re not in the path of my planetkiller then. If I can create a space station worthy of emperor’s praise, the planet killing beam is going to show everyone who rules the roost.
If markets are failing to provide living for copyright owners, then pirates can obviously see the fury of what can be unleached when people who have spent their time learning technology’s small details and executing grand plans starts to have problems with your piracy collections.
Summoning the court system to help you collect the money that the pirates owes you is just business as usual for copyright owners.
Re: Re: Re:23
Sorry, but this is not an ideal place to practice your script lines.
Re: Re: Re:23
holy shit you need to be institutionalized, holy fucking shit dude, you are delusional beyond even your usual levels
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Re: Re: Re:24
So you didn’t understand anything what happens in the blocker that I gave you?
Re: Re: Re:25
Well… that’s a huge if. But thanks for proving, once again, that you and other copyright holders are murderous psychopaths who boast about their willingness to kill everybody else for no reason beyond personal enrichment.
Oh, you’ve made plans. But when it comes to learning the details of how technology can be leveraged, your team is sorely terrible at that. The best technology you can manage is asking tech guys to ban pirated material before it even exists, then get angry when the programmers try to tell you that’s not how the technology works. The best “details” you’ve got is randomly generating IP addresses to sue innocent people, then run away when judges point out the problem with your evidence.
And it is precisely that attitude which got the judges in the Prenda Law and Malibu Media cases fed up, and cut your money awards down to reasonable amounts, at which point your evidence suddenly wasn’t good enough anymore and you ran far, far away.
Re: Re: Re:26
I never need to go this far in the process since my web page has good protections against pirates activities. Pirates are unable to misuse our technology, so suing them is not necessary. Thinking about this beforehand kinda helps.
This evidence is not needed when we don’t even need to bring in court system. Our built-in technology limitations are so effective that pirates have significant problems bypassing the technological protection measures.
Re: Re: Re:27
So if you have no need to use the court to demand money, you have no reason to promote it.
Re: Re: Re:28
This isn’t true. The settlement money position is still generating 500 times more money than what is possible by selling licenses to the software. While it’s not yet available to me, since I have not yet got users and pirates interested in the product, to keep customer expectations in right area, we need to announce beforehand that we will be using settlement techniques to obtain our money once the users and pirates get interest in our solutions.
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And it’s precisely that sort of thinking that Malibu Media tried to abuse, until the courts got tired of their act and limited their money flow.
The court system really doesn’t like being abused to make money for fanatics like you just because you think you’re not rich enough. They especially dislike it when loopholes get abused.
Why? Why give away your plan to make money off of pirates by openly declaring that they will be prosecuted as hard as the law allows you to? That’s not any meaningful announcement. That’s the equivalent of telling people that you intend to pee when your bladder is full.
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Everyone has patterns that make them easily identifiable. I no longer comment as signed in because Masnick has decided to send all my posts to the moderation queue and I don’t feel like waiting until he gets around to a decision, but since I invariably mention “woke ideologues”, everyone knows it’s me (and people like to flag my posts on sight).
Re: Re: Re:5
I’ll just paraphrase you: Something something intruding into spaces where they aren’t wanted.
Re: Re: Re:5
Have you considered not posting a rote recitation of pre-formed phrases? It can work wonders!
Re: Re: Re:6
Hyman doesn’t have anything beyond his workshopped right-wing catchphrases. Even I actively try to avoid using my copypastas whenever possible.
Re: Re: Re:7
The frequent repetition has polished those phrases to a smooth and brilliant lustre.
Re: Re: Re:8
Not as smooth as Hyman’s brain.
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Re: Re: Re:5
lol, not our problem because you don’t believe in femboys.
The black new world order is coming for your soy boy ass and there’s nothing you can do about it. Go cry to MTG and see how much she’s going to save you.
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Hyman.
Mike himself has told you to stop being a homophobic, transphobic asshole and pretend that you aren’t some sort of insurrectionist white power fuck. Multiple times.
It is not ANYONE’S fault but yourself when the rules were expressly made because people like you keep flouting them.
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It’s telling that Hyman can’t even pretend to be a decent person because his hate drives him to shit-talk queer people every chance he gets. Hell, it’s gotten so bad that he even outed himself as a racist.
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And, per his own admission, he’s even been booted out of those fine places because he’s too much of a shithead to go beyond Reddit Atheism to blend in with actual white power insurrectionists.
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See? Like I said, easily recognizable despite posting as signed out.
I tend to point out that people’s flagging behavior doesn’t match the hovertext of the flag button; I don’t know if that constitutes complaining about it. If the site owner wanted people to flag only posts that were “abusive/trolling/spam” presumably he would take action against people who used it otherwise. He also allows most of my posts through when I do comment as signed-in, so apparently I am not intrusive enough to merit being banned completely. Ah, the agonies of pretending to believe in free speech!
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You get flagged for being an abusive troll. Don’t blame others for your problems with queer people, people of color, and everyone telling you to fuck off.
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Hyman.
Considering that you keep posting here despite being told, especially by Mike, to fuck off…
The flagging IS in line with the intent meant for it.
That is, YOU ARE ACTIVELY HARASSING MIKE.
Pretending to scream for free speech, that is, something you already do, and then say you don’t have to be responisble for your bigoted, abusive, insurrection-supporting HARASSMENT, is plenty grounds for you being banned from the site.
Again, if Mike did sue you, you might have a point, but considering that you probably might fake a legal document…
Learn to be a fucking man and at least take responsiblilty for your speech and actions. Even I can do it, so fucking do it.
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His whole schtick is about being able to say whatever he wants without consequence which tells us how mentally immature he is.
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What does “take responsibility” mean in the context of speech? I posted under my own name until the site owner decided to delay all of my posts in the moderation queue, to no purpose but harassment since it’s simple to just post as not signed in. And everything I say is true, so there’s no issue of responsibility that way. It sounds like “take responsibility” just means “don’t say things I don’t like”. Which, too bad.
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It means either modifying your behavior and actually evaluating the fucking evidence, Hyman, or, take the fucking hint, and GET THE FUCK OUT.
Pleaae fucking go, stay go, remain go and never ever come back ever.
Buy a damn domain name, get some server space and keep spewing that Reddit-level nonsense ideology to people who WANT to listen to your Timecube levels of racism, homophobia, transphobia and bullshit, because no one HERE wants you to stay HERE.
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Accepting that it may get you banned from some forums, or have your comments hidden in others because other people find your speech offensive.
Re: Re: Re:11
“Everything I say is true” huh?
When proven factually wrong, you ignore those facts.
The only reason you are here, as you yourself admitted, is to troll and harass Mike and TD. It takes a certain type of person to come back every day saying the same stupid shit every time while being explicitly told you aren’t welcome here. Your behavior indicates that you likely suffer from emotional dysregulation since you exhibit all the telltale signs.
Is this two bots arguing?
I hope so, because that would be funny.
Remember when Alexa argued with Siri?
lol
Pepperidge Farms remembers.
Hooray for the it’s-all-about-me contingent. Every topic is now about meeeeeeeee!
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