Thursday Night Purge: Elon Musk’s Twitter Bans Tons Of High Profile Journalists
from the today-i-settled-all-family-business dept
Well. Just after finishing that last post about Twitter banning the official Mastodon account on Twitter for tweeting about the ElonJet tracking account existing on Mastodon, it seems that whatever brakes or controls were in place at the new “free speech absolutist” Twitter have really come off. In quick succession, a whole bunch of high profile reporter accounts were suspended, including Aaron Rupar (who famously covers and quotes videos of high profile politicians), Drew Harwell from the Washington Post, Ryan Mac from the NY Times, Donie Sullivan from CNN, and Matt Binder from Mashable.
It’s not entirely clear what “policy” these accounts violated. For all of Elon’s talk about transparency, there doesn’t seem to be very much here. A few of the accounts had talked about the ElonJet controversy but it’s not clear that they linked to it.
In Donie’s case, his last tweet had been posting the police report from the LAPD in response to questions about Elon Musk’s claim that a stalker had jumped on a car with one of his children inside. The LAPD statement said:
LAPD’s Threat Management Unit (TMU) is aware of the situation and tweet by Elon Musk and is in contact with his representatives and security team. No crime reports have been filed yet.”
And then he got banned.
Binder’s final tweet was noting what Donie’s final tweet was before getting banned.
So, look, again, content moderation at scale is impossible to do well, yada yada yada. But, uh, I’d sure like some Twitter Files on what’s going on here.
Either way, it would be nice if Musk’s supporters began to realize that (1) maybe this isn’t as easy as “no moderation” and (2) maybe the old Twitter wasn’t really evilly censoring their ideological viewpoints after all… but I fear that most are going to instead not care at all and (1) cheer on this removal of “the corporate media fake news elite” and (2) come up with some ridiculous excuse about how it’s not really a free speech issue at all.
But, of course, all of that is bullshit. Elon is free to do what he wants. Just as the old Twitter was. But, we can still call out what appears to be hypocrisy.
Update: The purge continues. Micah Lee, Tony Webster and Keith Olbermann are three more reporters now gone from Twitter.
Filed Under: aaron rupar, content moderation, donie sullivan, drew harwell, elon musk, matt binder, reporters, ryan mac
Companies: twitter
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It’s Going Down News, which was loathed by the neofash crowd, also got got on the early end of Elon’s meltdown today.
Re: Joke
Don’t forget He’s A Billionaire.
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At this rate? Forgetting his billionaire status will be easy. Forgetting the record-setting pace he is losing it (billions of $, his temper, any shred of credibility, sanity, take your pick) will be far less so.
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I wonder if he is trying to deliberately tank Twitter to get a $44 billion tax loss for the year’s tax statement.
At the very least, he’s providing economists with a math lesson: This, gentlemen, is an asymptotic curve.
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That… is not how tax losses work.
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Mike are you sure Musk knows that?
After all there’s been a worrying amount of things that “he sure knows” that… either he didn’t (and maybe still does not) know, or chose to blatantly disregard (to no observable benifit).
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Yeah, that is the question. He seems to have been shocked that explicit hate speech isn’t attractive to advertisers, that people aren’t going to flock to spend $8/month for something that provides less value than the free version used to, and that there’s broken functionality and low morale when you start randomly shutting down services and firing employees who can’t meet an obsolete late 90s standard of performance review or dare to speak out against his mistaken idea of what the software does.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t know how taxes work either. After all, he pays other people to avoid them for him. If he’s so clueless about the things he’s a self-proclaimed expert in, imagine how little he understands about the stuff he gets peons to do for him.
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I give him 3 months before he ends up just like “A certain Former Rapper”
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But he’s also an idiot. An insanely lucky idiot.
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Luck can run out…
And luck can’t protect you from bad decisions forever.
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Correct. And this is an excellent example of a once lucky man crashing and burning.
For all the people who came and screamed that Twitter was moderating based on political viewpoints, will come here and admit that it never was and this is what true viewpoint discrimination looks like.
But alas, I haven’t seen a flying monkey yet.
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They always whine about “censorship” but never comment on stories featuring actual censorship (e.g., Nintendo using copyright to censor a YouTube video about a decades-old game pitch).
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It’s a matter of definitions, if you use the conservative/republican definition of ‘censorship is when someone I like/agree with faces consequences for their words and/or deeds, and can no longer use the private property of another person to speak from as a result’ then it makes sense why they wouldn’t show up for those articles because they aren’t about censorship.
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It calls to mind the endless debates about file sharing. Some people would come in here claiming that people being sued for millions for sharing a few songs deserved it because they were “stealing music”. But then, articles would occasionally surface about labels having contracts that blocked the original artists from using their own songs (i.e. literally stealing music), and they’re suddenly be quiet except for the occasional attempt to spin it into being the artists’ own fault.
It’s be the same here – they won’t complain about actual fascism and/or censorship being levied against people they don’t like, because they’re not actually opposed to those things. They just don’t like it when their “team” gets treated equally.
"But, we can still call out what appears to be hypocrisy."
Well, we can. But it’s sort of like taking candy from a proverbial baby (a real baby is in a different league).
Pure coincidence I'm sure
Purging reporters from the platform, two of which were canned shortly after talking about the event that was used as justification to ban another account… yeah I’m struggling to see a ‘whoops, honest mistake’ explanation for what looks like a surgical removal of accounts.
Remarkable
This is just really remarkable in so many ways.
Just to pick one, Elmo’s very public decompensation is fascinating. I rather suspect 2023 will be a rocky year for Tesla.
Really seems like he’s decided to bankrupt the place, and is doing some combination of messing around with his broken toy and currying favor with the authoritarians. At least some of them – we all remember what Thiel thinks of Elmo.
What a way to live.
I got suspended from Twitter tonight…
I linked to the new subreddit https://reddit.com/r/elonjettracker and got suspended – I was @IsaacEilandHall. Seems like he’s on an unhinged banning trawl.
Elon is a Horrible Human Being. That’s All There is To It
Elon does not care about hypocrisy. He doesn’t care any time someone says “So much for being a free speech absolutist!”. As correct as it is, it’s not gonna get through to Musk or the asshole following he’s cultivated. Musk is a vindictive asshole who calls people the worst things to get them harassed while befriending alt-right dickbags and banning his critics.
Musk is a horrible human being who is being cruel and malicious on purpose. It doesn’t take a lot to figure that out. It feels like Mike is continually tip-toeing around it in these articles.
I’m going to have to side with Twitter on this one actually. It’s clear these journalists violated Twitter’s terms of use, which apparently say, “thou shalt not piss off the musk baby and his fragile ego.” This is entirely on these irresponsible “journalists” for not coddling the world’s second wealthiest narcissist.
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Yeah, the real story here isn’t the activity itself so much as it being a very clear bunch of hypocrisy from the self-styled “free speech” absolutist who invited bullying and hatred on to the platform while being unable to take the slightest criticism himself.
You don’t read stories of similar nonsense going on with the likes of Parler and Truth, because there’s zero expectation of bipartisanship or intellectual honesty there. What makes Twitter uniquely notable at the moment are the very clear changes and decisions made as a direct result of Musk’s fragile ego, and how that so clearly differ from the values he claimed to have bought the site to implement.
It’s not news that these people are morally bankrupt toddlers, but this does make an interesting case study on what happens when they get to play without adult supervision.
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The small upside
Banning all of those journalists from Twitter should help them do actual reporting instead of just presenting Twitter as news.
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This is just some dumb shit right here.
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That would be nice, but banning reporters for saying true things doesn’t stop them reading tweets. In fact, I dare say that there’s very little overlap between the type of reporters being banned here and the ones who lazily report tweets as news.
So, while we all know that these moderation actions were probably just pettyness. I’m willing to bet that like most journalists, these ones have covered several different countries critically. How long before someone makes a list of every article each of these journalists wrote about China and Saudi Arabia? It won’t matter much if they’re are other correlations between their coverage, it can still be made to look very telling.
Hey Elon! You know the freedom of the press is included in the first amendment you claim to hold near and dear to your heart, and Twitter’s, right? Don’t believe me? Look for yourself:
Not that it matters, as Twitter isn’t the government.
Still, the last time I checked, there is also no law against uttering the words “Elon Jet”, so I suggest yo–
\\Account Suspended\\
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I like the idea that Elon has basically become Candlejack. Just talking about his whereabou–
Thursday Night Purge
Are we seeing the Thursday Night Purge as a prelude the Monday Night Exodus where the mainstream media will give a collective middle finger to Elmo?
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Musk
The propensity for violence by some members on the ” Left” towards anyone they disagree with means Musks banning of people who ” track” ( stalk ) him is not only appropriate it’s prudent.
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Who was it that incited an insurrection against the American government because he didn’t agree with the results of a free and fair election?
Who was it that said they would’ve won that insurrection—and had an armed one, at that!—if they had planned said insurrection?
Who is it that’s carrying guns to protests of drag shows?
Who is it that’s encouraging violence against trans people, even if only by implication?
Because unless I miss my mark, it ain’t leftists doing that shit.
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Troll
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Hmm… so: I must have missed the actual violence perpetrated against people “on the Right” amidst the coverage of things like the January 6th committee, the attack on Paul Pelosi, election deniers losing consistently in court, and so on. Could you enlighten me about any specific violence that has been carried out “by some members of the Left”?
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We had months of Burn, Loot, and Murder (BLM) riots and you didn’t see any of it?
Are you living in a cave?
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Funny, I didn’t hear about a whole lot of murders happening within and because of those riots. Guess maybe you’re the one who was sleeping.
Also: How many of those riots were aimed knowingly, directly, and specifically at right-wingers/conservatives?
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Yes, didn’t know? There was a riot and two people were shot and died.
This Rittenhouse guy, he was a commie wasn’t he?
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Judging by the fact that right-wingers have embraced him as the poster boy for the Second Amendment? No. No, he is not.
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Classic white supremacist trolling. Pretend to throw each other under the bus by calling violent right-wing people “commies” while secretly congratulating the extremists for doing the dirty work of hurting and killing the people you hate.
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Is that the new talking point? Last I heard he was the new Conservative hero because he killed those people with their favourite weapons.
You’ll have to forgive us. Most of us value things like evidence and logical consistency, so we’re not as quick to follow what the new talking points are until one of you sticks your head out of the sewer to tell us.
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“Funny, I didn’t hear about a whole lot of murders”
“14 Days Of Protests, 19 Dead”
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2020/06/08/14-days-of-protests-19-dead/?sh=61f0c3c94de4
You should ask yourself why you didn’t hear about this?
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That article doesn’t say what you think it says.
But that’s expected from you seeing how you have made yourself the local idiot from all the times you act like a fucking idiot.
How about get get trespassed out of a public house because you are acting like an asshole trying tell people about the Texas AG and you keep getting laughed at and mocked.
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Chozen has never once in his existence ever provided a citation that supports his arguments.
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The commies have done far, far worse, though. Armed robbery, for instance. Actual, violent terrorism like blowing up actual places. Hijacking organizations to launder money. (Wait a fucking minute…)
Burning and looting don’t really compare. Even if both are criminal offenses.
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Hello sir/madam/other you appear to be confused. Foxnews.com is over in that general direction. ———>
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I was unaware the communists had actual power today.
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Why is it always projection with your people?
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[Projects hallucinations not in evidence]
Yeah, well, show me in the Constitution where it says freedom of speech has anything to do with freedom of the press.
Apparently EVERYTHING related to Mastodon is now banned/filtered on twitter. Try to post one? App blocks you from posting it.
Try to click/goto one? “Warning! This link may be unsafe!”
attention whores
It’s his toy. He bought it. He can take it and go home. The more attention anyone gives him the more he does to get more.
When the schoolyard bully takes his ball and goes home we don’t chase after him and say “Oh come on plllleeease let us play.” We find someone nicer to play with.
Fuck Elon.
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I think there may be a slight difference in scale between “schoolyard bully” and “4th-most-visited website in the world”, even if there’s not a difference in kind.
Stop...no...don't...go...
Hey koby are you ok? You’re usually the first to post and yet you’ve gone completely silent the last couple days for some reason.
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He’s busy jizzing his pants.
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Naaa just busy. Also gloriously soaking up the lib meltdowns. I get to live rent free in your heads even without posting anything. Like I said the other day, you leftists wouldn’t accept the “it’s not a government doing the banning so it’s okay” argument if the shoe was on the other foot. You guys are losing coherence, and starting to come around to the legal remedy side.
In any case, I’m sure this is all just a bug in the moderation algorithm, so it will be rectified soon.
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What fucking fantasy land do you live in. Nobody is starting to talk about legal remedies. We are all laughing at Musk for being the fucking idiot he his while watching him burn through billions and billions of dollars.
If you haven’t already noticed, we are all leaving Twitter for other services and just watching the flames at this point.
So koby, please point us to the people who are starting to ask for a legal remedy?
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No, we accept that Elon is doing these bans—and that he has every right to ban those people. What we don’t accept is the flimsy-ass justification for said bans. Having the right to do a thing doesn’t make it the right thing to do.
Except nobody here is advocating for…well, I suppose now would be a good time to ask you One Simple Question, but you always vanish in a shit-smelling puff of cowardice whenever I do.
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How to spot the hypocritical asshole whos word is totally worthless:
1. Complain loudly and incessantly about non-existent “viewpoint discrimination”.
2. When actual viewpoint discrimination happens to perceived opponents, point and laugh instead of actually complain about it.
You are just another asshole with zero principles Koby, and just to give you notice, from this day forward if you as much as hint at how unfair “conservatives” are moderated I’ll just point to your post here proving your stupidity.
Re: Re: Bracely sir koby ran away!
“I get to live rent free in your heads even without posting anything.”
What a weird way to say “I enjoy being publicly humiliated on the daily, give it to me harder Daddy!”
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8+ hour shadowban confirmed. It feels so good to be so feared. As usual, you guys have made my day!
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Feared? I am fucking laughing at you dude, you are so constantly wrong… Remember that time you thought Facebook could use §230 to dismiss a lawsuit over Facebook’s own speech? That’s how fucking stupid you are, and that is why I laugh and mock you.
Also, no matter how much to stick up for Elmo Musk, he’s still not going to fuck you.
Re: Re: Re: You won that idiot competition fair and square, no matter what anyone says!
“It feels so good to be so feared.”
Again what an odd way to say “an actual laughingstock and also the village idiot.”
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Only the delusional idiot stinking of shit thinks people are avoiding him out of fear.
Btw, it seems the strongest opinions are that of all those journalists Musk censored – don’t you agree? I can only surmise their opinions are really the strongest since so many of them where censored together, even stronger than your opinions which just goes to show they are right and you are wrong. With that conclusion it’s clear you have no need to post anything ever again.
Re: Re: Re:2 Korndog, stop trying to make 'fetch' happen, it's NOT going to happen!
That’s right he did try to make “-Getting censored proves that your opinion is the strongest.” a thing no matter how much we dogged him for his blatant hypocrisy.
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I didn’t expect Koby and others to gloat while avoiding criticizing how Musk “censored” the strong opinions.. Not at all.. Not one bit.. Nuh uh..
Okay, okay! I confess, I did!
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Elno proves that the opinions that his plane location is important and Mastodon is now superior are the strongest.
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Doxxing isn’t a political opinion.
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It is, however, an action meant to force someone to stop doing something.
Though, Koby, you’d be cheering for doxxing if it meant less pesky journalists, minorities and people like me stop criticizing your treasonous ilk and bow down and wait for our eventual, violent deaths by YOUR hand if you revealed all our personal details.
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Speaking of fear…
Yes or no, Koby: Do you believe the government should have the legal right to compel any privately owned interactive web service into hosting legally protected speech that the owners/operators of said service don’t want to host?
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Ooooh! You made Elon Musk look bad again! Now I’ve got a knot in my panties! Ooooooooh!
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whatever satiates your kink, bro
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Weird flex bro, but ok.
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He’s doing a great job of that on his own without any help from Techdirt.
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Journalists getting cancelled
Tables have turned against you liberal fake journalist. Now, you know the feeling of not being heard. When vile old twitter cancelled most concervatives you were ecstatic. Now, you complain. You call it KARMA. It backfired on you. Now, cry us a river.
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Shh honey, the adults are talking.
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Sir, this is a Wendy’s.
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You should get off the drugs.
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Nah this will just hurt Twitter in the long run. Besides, this will benefit entirely for alternative platforms like Mastadon. All Musk has done is sabotage himself. But one concern I will have for this is that the angry, digitally illiterate mobs will look at this and say that section 230 needs to be reformed or abolished or strung up from the highest tower or hanged or gassed and nothing will accomplished. Scapegoat section 230 for something unrelated and impossible to predict rather than tackling the actual problem. At this point, it’s very predictable stuff.
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“Now, you know the feeling of not being heard.”
If there is one group that doesn’t need to worry about not being heard, then it’s journalists working for large news outlets. Because they, um, publish stuff. To an audience of, um, millions.
Jet tracking
In mr Elon’s mind realtime posts of plane’s location is Doxxing and/or security issue.
Opinion Alert: Anyone that travels with body guards or in the case of USA lawmakers the Secret Service has to worry about nutters all the time.
Filed in: Not My Problem.
Just watching the clown show go by. Favorite line from FX’s “The Old Man” (Hulu), “(..) The rich don’t have to explain shit. (..)”
Seems true.
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One sitting Congresswoman said as much to Musk himself.
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First time I read good advice from AOC. I usually see only the giggle headlines.
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Maybe you should find better news sources.
Present company excluded.
It's not just journos
While the high profile bans have raised hackles, it should be noted that Musk is also quickly and quietly erasing a lot of progressive accounts:
“Via Khaled Elgindy: “Musk’s Twitter has inexplicably suspended the account of @MossawaCenter, a human rights group that promotes equality for Palestinian citizens of Israel.” #TwitterBans #Birdsite #MossawaCenter #HumanRights #Equality”
https://mstdn.social/@GJGreenlea/109522428642862135
Andy Ngo’s hit list is working as intended 🙁
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Elon
When reporters start investing real crimes, real treasonous activity by the Biden family, then will I have sympathy for you, and become angered on your behalf, as it is No, none ofthe modern reporters are going after George Soros, who is obviously guilty of election interference, and who knows what else, because no investigative report has been carried out! When all of you stop attacking conservatives and do real investigative reporting will I look at you as fair and balanced!
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I heard George Soros was also responsible for 9/11, the Holocaust, and Wonder Woman 3 getting cancelled.
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Oh look, the Soros boogeyman.
He can wait. The Kochs, News Corp and all the “conservative” rich fucks have to be investigated first.
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.. said nobpdy not admitting to a heavy hallucinogen habit, ever.
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“who is obviously guilty” – any corroborated evidence of that?
“and who knows what else”. Indeed – wh does know – what’s that? No-one? So accusation without evidence. You’re good at this gme.
“because no investigative report has been carried” – not even by those who oppose him, or did they just not find anything and are too embarrased to say.
Straight from the camp of ” I hear good things ….” & Some people are saying …”It’s all accusation and assertion without any backup from your corner. Put up or shut up.
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“When all of you stop attacking conservatives and do real investigative reporting will I look at you as fair and balanced!”
You gonna threaten to hold your breath next, Karen?
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What activity are you talking about? Be specific and provide sources.
[citation needed]
Twitter is going down
People are leaving twitter because of Elon Musk.
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In other news, people are leaving Elon Musk because of Twitter.
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Time Travel
Why should Musk’s mishandling of Twitter affect people’s opinions about what Twitter was doing before he bought it?
Re: Of course not Elmo isn't giving neonazis a platform jsut yet
Have you been reinstated on twitter to spread your oh so popular opinions?
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I hardly ever use Twitter, so I was never banned from it.
I was given several timeouts by Facebook, so I deleted my account rather than allow myself to be convinced to self-censor in order to remain.
Oh, thanks to Andrew Sullivan for pointing to this substack against woke gender ideology: https://thedistance.substack.com/
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“woke gender ideology”
Trans youth are going to have a bangin christmas party at this rate. Good job bro!
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Again, I don’t know why you need me to say magic words in order for you to contribute to a charity you find worthwhile, but here you go:
Woke gender ideology
Woke gender ideology
Woke gender ideology
Woke gender ideology
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It’s a lot funnier when your hatred causes more money to go to a charity devoted to helping the same people you hate, that’s why.
Now say the line, Bart.
Re: Re: Re:3 Keep it going bro, I gots *deep* pockets!
Cool that’s another $40 to charity. Good on ya!
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“I hardly ever use Twitter, so I was never banned from it.”
Good for you. But, that surely means you have less credibility about the way it works than people who used it.
“I was given several timeouts by Facebook”
I know people like that. Some changed what they did after understanding why, some consistently whine about unfair treatment after being told why posting homophobic “jokes” on the page of a local gay bar might not be polite conversation.
I’m sure that everyone who had the misfortune of encountering you are happy that you decided to stop the abuse voluntarily.
Name correction
Pedantic, but important correction: Donie’s surname is “O’Sullivan”, as can be see from the screenshots.
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“maybe the old Twitter wasn’t really evilly censoring their ideological viewpoints after all… “? Are you kidding me? Did you see how many account were banned/shadowbanned before Elon musk took place? the wheel turns. As the wheel turns libtard.
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Oh you mean the people who got banned following clearly outlined standards for behavior. Clearly outlined standards that got suspended if you were some important right wing fascist like Trump.
As opposed to now where the arbitrary capriciousness of man child Elon Musk being the one measure of you getting banned or not. Report where my plane goes, even though it is publicly available data? Ban, and to spite the owner of that now banned account a ban on all other accounts by them even the ones that violated no rule. Reporting on the capriciousness of self proclaimed God-Emperor Musk (the lie that the account would stay up only to get banned twice), oooh that is a ban. Reporting on that prime narcissist Musk banned a reporter for daring to report that self proclaimed God-Emperor Musk is being capricious. Ban, BAN, BAAAAAANNN!. Daring to ask questions that make hypocrite Musk uncomfortable plus deactivation of a useful feature to prevent people from talking like that about Musk. Daring to point to a location where adults can talk without Elon throwing a tantrum like he is a 3 year old that isn’t getting their favorite toy, bans & more bans, automated blocking of tweets, lying about the location being dangerous.
I’d say there is a tiny bit (the gap only being the distance between Earth & Mars) of difference between how banning was approached by pre-Musk Twitter and Musk owned Twitter.
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“Did you see how many account were banned/shadowbanned before Elon musk took place?”
Yes… and despite a great many requests for concrete examples, I never saw any who were banned for ideological viewpoints. If a person dared to give a verifiable example, it was always someone who was banned for other reasons.
There must be a reason why every example of someone being banned for merely being a “conservative” was someone being banned for racist/homophobic/etc abuse, bullying and/or violation of other rules such as doxxing or endangering public health. The only concrete examples I’ve ever seen of a site banning just for an ideological viewpoint are places like Parler and r/thedonald, who would routinely nuke accounts and their history for daring to present a differing viewpoint.
Oh well, at least unlike the right-wingers who get themselves kicked out of every polite venue, use “libtards” have a wide range of venues we’re still allowed to enter if Twitter gets too overwhelmed with your brand of hatred. Musk can’t afford to buy most of those, so enjoy your sinking ship. Just don’t try blaming us for the torpedo Musk launched at the thing.
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“libtard”
Oh do sheeple and demonrat next!
“I do Not have any opinions about any one, no matter how they choose to cope with Failure and Divorce” – The @ DRIL Social Media Crew
So much for free speech from Elon
I guess the wig is off now
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“I guess the wig is off now”
It’s an invisible wig that can only be seen by the wise.
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Still Waiting
Still waiting for Mike to mention at all that Musk has a PIA, Privacy ICAO Address. This wasn’t really “public” information. Elon Jet was feeding public information into an algorithm to crack Privacy ICAO Addresses.
Much like bots bypassing federal do not call lists what Elon Jet was doing falls well outside of Constitutional protections.
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So, what’s your point?
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Re: Re: Mike Is Piece of Shit
Just that once again Mike is being a typical piece of shit.
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So, what’s your point?
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That hes a massive crybabby with a public humiliation fetish and as usual has dunning-kruger riding shotgun with his drunk ass ego.
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Well there is one minor problem with your rant. The one that the FAA itself acknowledges. It is 100% legal to not get plane data, like ADS-B broadcasts, from the FAA and instead use the nationwide network(s) of amateurs capturing ADS-B broadcasts. Do note that ADS-B broadcasts are considered 100% public (and publicly available) data.
All that is left now is to associate the fake identifier with the right plane and you are golden. And that is also not illegal seeing that both the PIA and real identifier are public data. Which is the reason you can get a new PIA regularly (60 days if this program is still in phase 1, 20 days if that phase 2 has been implemented as expected). Or earlier if you report your PIA being compromised.
So nope nothing there that validates your nonsense claim that it is unconstitutional.
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I didn’t say “unconstitutional.” I said falls outside of constitutional protections.
This issue is asked and answered by the courts because it is almost the exact same issue raised by the do not call list, which the SCOTUS has already ruled on. Musk took the proactive action of getting a PIA as such Elon Jet has no more of a 1st Amendment Right to post his flight information as a tele-marketer has to call a number on the do not call list.
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And yet, the dude behind @ElonJet hasn’t been arrested by federal authorities. Curious. 🤔
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“And yet, the dude behind @ElonJet hasn’t been arrested by federal authorities. Curious. 🤔”
State actor doesn’t equal public square.
First Amendment doesn’t equal freedom of speech.
Not constitutionally protected doesn’t equal illegal.
You are a fucking idiot who incorrectly equates things because you are a fucking idiot.
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Public housing doesn’t equal public house.
Dunning-kruger doesn’t equal coffee maker.
Throwing a hissy fit doesn’t equal a winning a debate.
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And the Texas AG still hasn’t made DirecTV carry OANN again.
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A public square isn’t privately owned.
It also doesn’t equal freedom of reach.
It does equal “unlawful”, though. And if Elon really thinks someone publishing the data for his private jet puts him in danger, I think he’d have enough pull to have the person(s) doing that arrested.
So, what’s your point?
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“Elon Jet was doing falls well outside of Constitutional protections.”
Much like public housing you have no idea how public information works bro.
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What are you misunderstanding now? ICAO is in intention organization for co-coordinating aircraft flight issues, and last I saw Elon Musk was not a country, and therefor has no direct association with that organization. Also, there is no direct connection between actual ADS-B data and ICAO, other than ICAO having an initiative to get it installed on all aircraft.
You are making up conspiracy theories from disconnected bits of data.
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Mike’s not gonna lie for you, child.
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Love watching the liberal meltdown, but remember it’s a private company, he can do what he wants. Lmao. 😂
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“Just because we can do a think does not necessarily follow that we must do that thing.” – Federation President, Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
Musk could’ve acted like an intelligent grownup and listened to those who know better than him and who have actual experience in building and maintaining a platform like Twitter, but he chose to continue to be his narcissistic man baby self instead.
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“Love watching the liberal meltdown”
You misspelled Elon the Libertarian bro.
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When has anyone ever said otherwise? Conservatives were the ones bitching about “censorship” when conservatives were banned for violating TOS rules that had been set in stone for years. Revenge is a confession of pain; what pain are you confessing to when you laugh at Musk taking revenge against “liberals” on your behalf?
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What fantasy land do you live in?
Please point us to the meltdown?
Absolutely nobody is saying that Elmo can’t do what he is doing exactly because it’s a private company and he can burn it to the ground if he wants to.
The only meltdown that’s happening is Elmo’s bank account, and we are all here laughing as he burns through billions of dollars, which is sad because that money could have been put to much better use than to prop up a failing business that now caters to racists and white supremacists.
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It’s more “Wow, I can’t believe he’s done this” than liberal tears, but if you’re that close-minded…
This is the sort of behavior I expect from certain parts of 4chan, but modern “conservatives” have always been open about hating people who don’t kowtow to them…
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‘Pointing and laughing at an idiotic hypocrite and the people that are demonstrating their own hypocrisy’ is having a ‘meltdown’ now? You might want to look into getting a new dictionary as yours seems to have some weird definitions.
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TIL “liberal tears” is spelled “schadenfreude”
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Whoosh
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