How The Dobbs Decision Will Lead To Attacks On Free Speech; Or, Why Democrats Need To Stop Undermining Free Speech

from the protect-free-speech-now dept

We’ve talked about the unfortunate bipartisan attacks on free speech, which are best understood as attempts to control the narrative. Republicans have been attacking free speech in multiple ways — from trying to ban books and take away teacher autonomy to trying to compel websites to host content against their will. Democrats, on the flip side, have focused on ridiculous attempts to force websites to monitor and control speech. Both of these are bad in their own ways and both are attacks on free speech. In both cases, they seem to be about trying to force others to view the world the same way they do, and that’s the whole reason that we have the 1st Amendment around: to prevent that sort of nonsense.

This post is mainly targeted at those among you who support the Democrats’ position that we need to hold companies liable for the speech of their users. We’ve seen bills at both the federal and the state levels, trying to force companies to take down certain speech. And when people point out the 1st Amendment problems with these bills, we often hear some nonsense in response about “fire in a crowded theater.”

But, in a post Dobbs world, this shit is a lot more serious, and Democrats providing justification for outright government-backed censorship is a real problem. Senator Ron Wyden highlighted this just before the Dobbs decision came out, noting that Republicans who successfully got Roe v. Wade overturned were absolutely coming for websites and speech next. Here’s what Wyden wrote:

In coming months well-funded anti-choice extremists will launch a coordinated campaign to deluge websites and social media companies with lawsuits over user speech in Republican-led states where just seeking information about an abortion could become illegal. Just as anti-abortion activists worked to attack reproductive rights in statehouses across the nation, these fundamentalists will use the same playbook of coordinated laws and legal actions against the online speech of those they dislike. They’ve already targeted libraries and bookstores over LGBTQ books and classified health care for trans youths as child abuse.

You could say he was prescient. Or you could just say that he was observing the obvious next steps. And, now that Dobbs is here, exactly what he predicted seems likely to be happening. As the NY Times pointed out, one of the next big fights over abortion may be over the 1st Amendment. Specifically, that article highlights that just shortly before the Dobbs decision came down, the National Right to Life Committee released a “model” state law for a post-Roe world that directly aims to criminalize speech online:

A top anti-abortion lobbying group, the National Right to Life Committee, recently proposed model legislation for states that would make it a crime to pass along information “by telephone, the internet or any other medium of communication” that is used to terminate a pregnancy.

Many states essentially did just that before Roe v. Wade was decided in 1973. And it is not clear whether courts will find that the protections afforded to speech in the Constitution still apply to abortion rights supporters as they look to circumvent the raft of new restrictions.

And, as Ashton Lattimore points out at Prism, such laws would put all sorts of free speech concepts at risk:

In the United States, there’s a long history of efforts to silence information concerned with the rights of marginalized people, and that’s always included the work of journalists. In the 19th century, for example, Congress passed a “gag rule” to prevent abolitionists from petitioning against slavery, and southern states passed laws that outlawed anti-slavery speech entirely. Critically, both historically and today, speech suppression laws not only hand bad-faith actors the tools of criminalization and fines to silence those they disagree with, but they can also normalize physical violence. Indeed, violence against journalists was widespread in the 19th century, and—crucially—not confined to the places where such anti-slavery speech was criminalized: In 1837, a pro-slavery mob killed abolitionist newspaperman Elijah Lovejoy and destroyed his printing press in the “free” state of Illinois, while the following year in Philadelphia, a similarly-minded mob burnt down the abolitionist meeting space Pennsylvania Hall, which also housed the offices of abolitionist newspaper The Pennsylvania Freeman. Even after slavery was abolished, journalists faced constant threats to their safety for daring to accurately report on injustices like lynching, foremost among them being Ida B. Wells. And even in the present day, it’s clear that speech-suppressive laws are part of a larger constellation of practices that embolden violence against the groups they target. Witness the spate of anti-gay and anti-trans violence in the wake of Florida’s “Don’t Say Gay” law, and the primarily Black and brown teachers who’ve faced harassment, violence, and even death threats following “anti-CRT” suppression of discussions about racial injustice in American society. Now, with a law specifically targeting abortion-related speech, the risks are especially dire since so many of the journalists leading the way on reproductive rights and justice reporting are women of color, who already face disproportionate harassment. 

While there are many potential problems with this model law, the attack on speech shows up here, making it against the law to:

knowingly or intentionally hosting or maintaining an internet website, providing access to an internet website, or providing an internet service, purposefully directed to a pregnant woman who is a resident of this state, that provides information on how to obtain an illegal abortion, knowing that the information will be used, or is reasonably likely to be used, for an illegal abortions;

That would be a direct attack on free speech and the 1st Amendment. And, normally I’d say that it’s unlikely that courts would allow this. But, seeing how this particular arrangement of Justices seems willing to bend over backwards to justify absolute nonsense to remove rights — especially around abortion — it’s not difficult to imagine the Supreme Court magically finding the “exception” it needs to make these kinds of laws constitutional.

And, for what it’s worth, South Carolina has already introduced legislation that is modeled on this bill, and which would seek to punish websites. Other states are almost certainly going to follow.

And this is why Democrats need to stop handing Republicans the exact ammunition they need to attack free speech like this. I won’t even bother asking where the “oh, cancel culture is the biggest threat to free speech” people to speak up here because we all know they won’t.

But, Democrats who have been whining about “misinformation” and how social media has to be more aggressive censors, or who trot out the “fire in a crowded theater” line are simply playing into the censors hands here. They’re opening the door to this kind of nonsense and effectively justifying it.

Evan Greer and Lia Holland from Fight for the Future have an excellent companion piece to the Wyden piece above, noting that Section 230 is the last line of defense for abortion speech online. Democrats who are still attacking Section 230 today (including President Biden) are simply handing Republicans the tools they need to enable laws like the NLRC one above to criminalize speech.

Section 230 is the last line of defense keeping reproductive health care support, information, and fundraising online. Under Section 230, internet platforms that host and moderate user-generated content cannot generally be sued for that content. Section 230 is not absolute. It does not provide immunity if the platform develops or creates the content, and it does not provide immunity from the enforcement of federal criminal laws. But, crucially, it does protect against criminal liability from state laws.

This means that as Section 230 exists today, a lawsuit from an anti-abortion group concerning speech about reproductive health care or a criminal proceeding launched by a forced-birth state attorney general would be quickly dismissed. If Section 230 is weakened, online platforms like GoFundMe and Twitter, web hosting services, and payment processors like PayPal and Venmo will face a debilitating and expensive onslaught of state law enforcement actions and civil lawsuits claiming they are violating state laws. Even if these lawsuits ultimately fail, without Section 230 as a defense to get them dismissed quickly they will become enormously expensive, even for the largest platforms.

Forced-birth extremists are litigious, well resourced, and ideologically motivated. Tech companies care about making money. Rather than spending tens of millions fighting in court, many online platforms will instead “race to the bottom” and comply with the most restrictive state laws. They’ll change their own rules on what they allow, massively restricting access to information about abortion. 

But, incredibly, the message doesn’t seem to be getting through. Just this week, I received an angry hate mail from someone who insisted that my support for free speech was the real problem, and that it enabled disinformation online. But history has shown that government suppression of speech ends up silencing the marginalized and the powerless. And we see that with the NLRC model bill.

Free speech is essential at this time. Section 230 protects websites from the kinds of lawsuits that the NLRC bill would use to flood the system, and it’s why it’s so crucial that it remain in place. Removing it, and allowing states to pass laws putting liability on websites for speech the states don’t like is bad no matter who is doing it. One hopes that at least someone within the Democratic party has enough sense to look at this model bill and realize that their own party’s position is likely to make that more possible.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Rather than spending tens of millions fighting in court, many online platforms will instead “race to the bottom” and comply with the most restrictive state laws.

And that will not protect them from legal assault where private right of action is encouraged. Even if case get thrown out at the initial stages,having to fight large numbers of cases becomes expensive, and difficult to manage. Private rights of action are an invite for campaigns to destroy websites.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Every time I think Democrat lawmakers can’t find a way to disappoint me more than I already am, they stab a fork into my leg and act like they can’t pull it out unless they get Republican approval first.

Heard on Twitter, forgot from where, paraphrasing:

Republicans are the mass shooter / murderers.

Democrats are the Uvalde cops.

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Naughty Autie says:

I won’t even bother asking where the “oh, cancel culture is the biggest threat to free speech” people to speak up here because we all know they won’t…

…since they tend to believe in the far right mantra of “free speech for me, but not for thee.” Just sayin’.

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Hyman Rosen (profile) says:

Now if Masnick would only understand that free speech is something that should be supported even by institutions that aren’t required by law or the Constitution to do so, we might be getting somewhere.

Also, Democrats took the lead in classifying conversion therapy as abuse and making it illegal. Why are they surprised that Republicans do the same for gender conversion? One reason to support freedom is the understanding that your side will not always be the one in control; if you violate the norms of freedom by imposing your will on those who do not believe as you do while you have power, you should expect that the same will be done to you when you lose control, as you surely will.

Rocky says:

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Now if Masnick would only understand that free speech is something that should be supported even by institutions that aren’t required by law or the Constitution to do so, we might be getting somewhere.

Now, if a bigoted asshole like you would understand that if someone tells you to fuck the hell up and leave their property it’s them exercising their rights. No one except the assholes have a problem with this, it’s called having discretion and understanding that you aren’t welcome.

Also, Democrats took the lead in classifying conversion therapy as abuse and making it illegal.

Yeah, it’s just plain stupid to outlaw something that forced people against their will to undergo a therapy, a therapy that is proven to change nothing except making people feel like shit and can make them suicidal. Compare that to the brilliant move of the conservatives outlawing a procedure some people actually want, which makes them feel like shit and can make them suicidal. You got 2 out of the 2 choices that show you don’t give a shit about people.

The world would be such a better place without people like you, entitled and bigoted assholes with zero empathy who want to force people to listen to their mentally deficient drivel any chance they get.

Naughty Autie says:

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Now if Masnick would only understand that free speech is something that should be supported even by institutions that aren’t required by law or the Constitution to do so, we might be getting somewhere.

But you’ve never believed in free speech, going by how often you’ve posted walls of text ranting about Twitter exercising its own.

Naughty Autie says:

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Also, Democrats took the lead in classifying conversion therapy as abuse and making it illegal. Why are they surprised that Republicans do the same for gender conversion [sic]?

So you don’t believe in personal freedom and the right to self-determination, then? Thanks for letting us know, chump.

Toom1275 (profile) says:

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It takes a special kind of stupid to claim that the consistent position of fighting against the mentally ill’s wanton torture of LGBTQ+ people by way of imposing the will of their scientifically baseless beliefs with conversion therapy and fighting against the mentally ill’s wanton torture of transgender people by way of imposing the will of their scientifically baseless beliefs with denying gender-affirming surgery is somehow hypocritical and illiterately hallucinating that freedom means the right to torture.

But nobody ever said there’s any signs of intelligent life in Hyman’s own little world.

Naughty Autie says:

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But nobody ever said there’s any signs of intelligent life in Hyman’s own little world.

TBF, there has to be some level of intelligence in order to hate others. Nevertheless, Hymen Rosan definitely has a lower than average intellect, in common eith other psychopaths, and that’s why he feels the need to view others as lesser. Only when everyone else is something to be scraped off his shoes can he feel at all good about himself. Same with a new troll that shat up a thread last week.

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JMT (profile) says:

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Now if Masnick would only understand that free speech is something that should be supported even by institutions that aren’t required by law or the Constitution to do so, we might be getting somewhere.

You’re free to speak here aren’t you? It’s pretty obvious from your firehose of ignorant bigotry that nobody is stopping you.

Also, Democrats took the lead in classifying conversion therapy as abuse and making it illegal. Why are they surprised that Republicans do the same for gender conversion?

Your comparison is grotesquely stupid. Absolutely nobody is being forced into “gender conversion”.

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Naughty Autie says:

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If only Hyman Rosen understood that freedom of speech only means that the government will not silence him…

Not quite. Freedom of speech means he has the right to speak, but not the right to be heard wherever his words aren’t welcome, especially in privately-owned spaces like Techdirt. It’s the First Amendment that guarantees his right to be free from government censorship wherever be speaks in the US.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:2

A big problem is that it’s not used just against trolls and spam, especially if a troll simply doesn’t like a viewpoint and is willing to continuously flag a post until it disappears while the walls of lies and projection posted by the same troll remain visible. That’s why I think Techdirt would be much improved by having traditional moderation, but that’s not my decision.

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Hyman Rosen (profile) says:

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I believe in the personal freedom to choose whatever therapy one likes, regardless of whether other people agree that it’s useful. I believe in the personal freedom of parents to make such therapeutic decisions for their minor children. That’s true whether we’re talking about conversion therapy or gender-affirming therapy.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Conversion therapy has a ton of evidence that proves that it’s harmful. Regardless of whether it’s aimed at SCIENTOLOGISTS, HOMOSEXUAL TEENAGERS OR CULT MEMBERS TRYING TO ESCAPE FROM THE CULT.

Gender-affirming therapy, on the other hand, is backed by actual science and proven to actually be beneficial.

The ethical scales weigh heavily towards not banning shit that’s harmful to humanity at large.

Though you have none of that to begin with, Hymen.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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“Conversion ‘therapy’ ” is psychological (and often physical) torture. It is performed with the intent to erase queer people by forcing them to stop being queer; sometimes, the “therapy” pushes its victims to commit suicide. (Both outcomes are “wins” for anti-queer folks⁠—one less queer person in the world either way, after all.) And that doesn’t even get into makeshift “therapies” such as raping gay women to “turn them straight” or parents trying to literally “beat the gay” out of their children.

I suggest you read accounts from survivors of “conversion ‘therapy’ ”⁠—like this account of a trans woman who survived that “therapy”⁠—and think about your support for this torturous practice. Then think about all the underage children who were victimized by this practice…including (and especially) the ones who didn’t make it out alive. If you still want to consider yourself a supporter of this barbaric, inhumane, and thoroughly discredited practice, that will say a lot about you.

None of it will be good.

Hyman Rosen (profile) says:

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This is not unlike the story of detransitioners who proclaim the horrors of gender conversion. Using self-selected stories will not provide an accurate picture. For example, people who have had successful conversion therapy might be reluctant to out themselves as having been gay.

That you want to consider conversion therapy bad and gender transition good does not make it incumbent in anyone else to affirm your views, not should it empower you to decide for other people what therapies they may choose to undergo.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Just this week, I received an angry hate mail from someone who insisted that my support for free speech was the real problem, and that it enabled disinformation online.

It is true that allowing more speech does open the door to more disinformation. However, limiting free speech won’t eliminate disinformation. It’ll just make it that much harder for the remaining approved-by-those-in-power disinformation to be challenged.

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Anonymous Coward says:

A top anti-abortion lobbying group, the National Right to Life Committee, recently proposed model legislation for states that would make it a crime to pass along information “by telephone, the internet or any other medium of communication” that is used to terminate a pregnancy.

Um… Isn’t speaking a ‘medium of communication?’ I’m not sure it was unintentional for that to be included…

JSpitzen (profile) says:

Dobbs / Free Speech

Would anyone like to join me in gaming out how this might work in practice? Momentarily putting aside the very real threat of tech companies taking the sheepish “safe” course in the face of such laws, think about the exact text in play:

“knowingly or intentionally hosting or maintaining an internet website, providing access to an internet website, or providing an internet service, purposefully directed to a pregnant woman who is a resident of this state, that provides information on how to obtain an illegal abortion, knowing that the information will be used, or is reasonably likely to be used, for an illegal abortions”

It ought to be easy to find jurisdictions–some outside the U.S.–where one could host or maintain a website designed to promulgate information. That website needn’t make its messages “purposefully directed to a pregnant woman who is a resident of this state” as it could just be directed to the entire population of people who might be interested in how to procure a legal abortion. It could even make users, before getting to the data, promise that they wouldn’t do anything illegal. Assuming, for the sake of argument, that those steps work, the remaining danger is this part of the language (which I am deliberately editing to focus on one of the worst case applications:

“providing access to an internet website … that provides information … reasonably likely to be used for an illegal abortions”

I don’t see an immediate way around that part of the language but, if the information is out there somewhere in the universe, it’s going to be awfully hard to enforce that restriction.

Feedback is welcomed.

Anonymous Coward says:

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So you’re asking politicians in the US to sue under a different reason. Or worse.

Assange notwithstanding, but that jerk made it worse for everyone.

Singapore’s iron-fisted, thin-skinned politicians have managed to shut down sites and people critical of them by bringing up the “national security” bullshit excuse and pointing out that several of these sites were funded by foreigners.

Even managed to quash a contest with that reasoning. And managed to bring up the Soros spectre.

You seriously think the Dems haven’t been taking notes?

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Todd McKinney says:

Befuddling

One of the things that I’m most confused by, in this decades long fight that seems to never end, is why is there only one person in the entire US Senate that has a clue what is actually happening? Ron Wyden seems to be something of a fixture. I’m truly surprised that more lawmakers have not joined him in a quest for a better system (more perfect union, whatever).

Well, I certainly know “why” but it’s not polite to discuss graft and corruption in public, so we’ll let that go for now.

I personally would not have thought that I would need to be advocating for free speech in the US in 2022. The fact that this is up for discussion is a huge concern. I weep for the future, and for the generations that will have to learn the hard lessons of the past over again from scratch. This particular legacy is rich, important, and easy to lose. I only wish that I had been better at impressing this on our descendants, as they will only realize the value after it is gone.

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That One Guy (profile) says:

'That club was only supposed to be FOR us, not used ON us!'

Ah democrat politicians, for when you want someone with zero pattern recognition and a memory that would make a goldfish look amazing.

Democrat politicians: Sites should be held liable for any content we don’t like! Take it down or else!

Republican politicians: Gains even the slightest bit of power.

Republican politicians: Good news, we don’t like the stuff you agree with, and thanks to your precedent we’re ordering it taken down.

Democrat politicians: But that’s not fair, only we were supposed to have that ability! Who could have ever seen that coming?!

Just me Again says:

What Democrats??

What democrats??

All the real democrats were coerced during and after 9/11 to either join the fascists or suffer the consequences.
Perhaps you might have noticed that the Republicans have been in charge, and get away with anything they have done since 9/11, including insurrection.
When someone shows you a picture of your kids in their bedroom sleeping, you capitulate to any demands you’re given.
To go against the fascists at this stage of their play, is either political suicide, or real suicide.
Get a clue folks.
You have been invaded, conquered, and are now being liquidated, by your own wealthiest citizens, simply because you too want to be rich, and refuse to look at what is right in front of you face.

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