Important Things At Twitter Keep Breaking, And Making The Site More Dangerous
from the there's-no-autocompleting-safety dept
It turns out that if you fire basically all of the competent trust & safety people at your website, you end up with a site that is neither trustworthy, nor safe. We’ve spent months covering ways in which you cannot trust anything from Twitter or Elon Musk, and there have been some indications of real safety problems on the site, but it’s been getting worse lately, with two somewhat terrifying stories that show just how unsafe the site has become, and how risky it is to rely on Twitter for anything.
First, former head of trust & safety at Twitter, Yoel Roth, a few weeks after he quit, said that “if protected tweets stop working, run.” Basically, when core security features break down, it’s time to get the hell out of there.
Protected tweets do still seem to kinda be working, but a related feature, Twitter’s “circles,” which lets you tweet to just a smaller audience, broke. Back in February, some people noticed that it was “glitching,” in ways that were concerning, including a few reports that some things that were supposedly posted to a circle were viewable publicly, but there weren’t many details. However, in early April, such reports became widespread, with further reports of nude imagery that people thought was being shared privately among a smaller group being available publicly.
Twitter said nothing for a while, before finally admitting earlier this month that there was a “security incident” that may have exposed some of those supposed-to-be-private tweets, though it appears to have only sent that admission to some users via email, rather than publicly commenting on it.
The second incident is perhaps a lot more concerning. Last week, some users discovered that Twitter’s search autocomplete was recommending… um… absolutely horrific stuff, including potential child sexual abuse material and animal torture videos. As an NBC report by Ben Collins notes, Twitter used to have tools that stopped search from recommending such awful things, but it looks like someone at Twitter 2.0 just turned off that feature, enabling anyone to get recommended animal torture.
Yoel Roth, Twitter’s former head of trust and safety, told NBC News that he believes the company likely dismantled a series of safeguards meant to stop these kinds of autocomplete problems.
Roth explained that autocompleted search results on Twitter were internally known as “type-ahead search” and that the company had built a system to prevent illegal, illicit and dangerous content from appearing as autocompleting suggestions.
“There is an extensive, well-built and maintained list of things that filtered type-ahead search, and a lot of it was constructed with wildcards and regular expressions,” Roth said.
Roth said there was a several-step process to prevent gore and death videos from appearing in autocompleted search suggestions. The process was a combination of automatic and human moderation, which flagged animal cruelty and violent videos before they began to appear automatically in search results.
“Type-ahead search was really not easy to break. These are longstanding systems with multiple layers of redundancy,” said Roth. “If it just stops working, it almost defies probability.”
In other words, this isn’t something that just “breaks.” It’s something that someone had to go in and actively go through multiple steps to turn off.
After news of this started to get attention, Twitter responded by… turning off autocomplete entirely. Which, I guess, is better than leaving up the other version.
But, still, this is why you have a trust & safety team who works through this stuff to keep your site safe. It’s not just content moderation, as there’s a lot more to it than that. But Twitter 2.0 seems to have burned to the ground a ton of institutional knowledge and is just winging it. If that means recommending CSAM and animal torture videos, well, I guess that’s just the kind of site Twitter wants to be.
Filed Under: animal torture, autocomplete, csam, ella irwin, elon musk, recommendations, torture, trust and safety
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Comments on “Important Things At Twitter Keep Breaking, And Making The Site More Dangerous”
Musk’s also finally pushed his antisemitism far enough that the media can’t ignore it anymore, so that’s…well, I hesitate to say that’s nice, but I’m glad the press is finally willing to call it what it is.
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I mean, given that he whole heartedly endorsed Scott Adams’ racism, and then two weeks later, everyone forgot about it… I’m not convinced his latest bigotry will be remembered by the end of the month.
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I’m sure the press would be happy to forget about it, but I don’t think the ADL or the Israeli government is going to.
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I am quite sure no one is sending Mossad goons for calling out Soros’s bullshit.
But holy crap, no, making pointing out how much Soros has harmed society is in no way anti-semitic, you absolute lunatic.
ADL has apparently lost all self-respect and fallen into gutter race-baiting. Ironically quite racist.
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It is anti-Semitic, however, to posit that George Soros is part of, or the mastermind behind, a decades-long multi-national plan concocted and carried out by Jews to “harm” the United States for some nebulous reason. People who believe in that shit know that invoking Soros’s name is enough to get the point across without having to explicitly say “Jews”. To wit: You talk of “how much Soros has harmed society” but offer no concrete descriptor of those harms and no explanation of how Soros is personally and singularly responsible for those harms. That you don’t mention a Jewish conspiracy to destroy America is largely irrelevant. You’re repeating the same coded bullshit as anti-Semites; that’s enough to make me think you have more of a problem with Jews in general than you do with George Soros in particular.
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I think they misspelled “Koch Brothers.”
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Okay, but there are at least a dozen other people you could say have done as much damage to the world as George Soros. When you single him out at the beginning of a thread while ignoring every other person on the list, you’re not doing it because he’s actually causing damage to the world; you’re doing it because he’s the alt-right-appointed face of the Zionist conspiracy.
And because you’re an anti-Semite, by extension.
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Elmo’s still not ever going to know your name. Much less let you find out if he’s uncircumcised.
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It’s not antisemitic to call out Soros’s policy positions, or complain about what he says or funds.
It is very much antisemitic to say that he is “evil” or “hates humanity” and is trying to destroy the fabric of society, all of which are associated with antisemitic tropes, and all of which are ridiculous nonsense.
Everyone knows the difference. Even you. It’s only the asshole bigots who pretend that they don’t see the difference, so they can dog whistle how bigoted they are and can then pretend they’re not.
Like you.
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So ypu admit you’re a Nazi.
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ahahahha, you’re a meme
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And you’re an anti-Semite.
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At least I get to live on.
That’s high praise, being a meme.
“We are all pawns, controlled by something greater: Memes. The DNA of the soul. They shape our will. They are the culture, they are everything we pass on. Expose someone to anger long enough, they will learn to hate. They become a carrier. Envy, greed, despair… All memes. All passed along.”
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But you didn’t! You actually didn’t point out a single instance of when Soros has harmed society.
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When someone can point to something Soros actually did that has harmed society, I might agree that that isn’t antisemitic. The problem is that no one actually does that.
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They kind of had to once the Israeli government started issuing statements/tweets along the lines of what Musk tweeted about Soros has an antisemitic feeling to it and Musk is stoking antisemitism on Twitter.
The reaction by Musk is telling though. The clearest admittance that he wants freedom of consequences in addition to the freedom of his speech (as if past actions weren’t enough of an indication for either).
Re: Crank magnetism in action
He’s a demonstration of what RationalWiki dubs crank magnetism. A crank is someone with a bigoted, conspiracy-minded, extreme, or otherwise rational but fringe viewpoint.
Magnetism refers to the nature of cranks to be attracted to one another and to accumulate multiple crank viewpoints over time.
12-D Chess, laugh, etc.
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Laugh~
Laugh at the man so bad at 12D Chess even those who don’t even know about 12D chess think he sucks at it!
“Nuke it from orbit, it’s the only way to be sure.”
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Pretty sure Roth was fired, not quit
…and has lied on many things regarding his time at Twitter, so why believe him about this?
I love your fiction that any of those people were competent or doing much that was useful.
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Do you really expect us to accept your anus as a credible source of information?
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Well, I suppose when you are the kind of person that gets off on watching animal torture videos, then they weren’t doing anything useful for your type.
Thanks for admitting that you get off on watching animal torture videos.
I wonder if there is bottom to your depravity…
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I bet Matty loves the CSAM flooding Twitter as well, for all the “groomer” slander magats love Trump because he’s a pedophile, not in spite of that fact
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They stopped the system suggesting child sexual abuse material. You don’t think that’s useful?
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Note that there are two separate things involved. First, there are the things that autocomplete suggests. Second, there are the things available to be found. Those are not the same, depending on how the autocomplete database is built and maintained. If I search for “woke ideologues with…” and autocomplete suggests “…their heads up their rears”, that doesn’t mean that accepting that search will actually produce content containing it. It’s plausible that autocomplete is simply accumulating and learning the things that people ask for and feeding them back. A better system might be to order autocompletion by the amount of content that would be retrieved, but that might be considerably slower to determine.
On the other hand, if Twitter doesn’t mind hosting animal cruelty videos (I don’t know if it does or doesn’t, but the Supreme Court has said that it’s OK), autocomplete should in fact help you find them. Note that TechDirt has a whole article dedicated to complaining that Twitter de-emphasized Bellingcat in searches. A large generic speech platform with search capability should not be placing its thumb on the scales to make certain content difficult to find.
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They stopped the system suggesting child sexual abuse material. You don’t think that’s useful?
Re: Re: Re:2 '... you WANTED to see more of that?'
The closer you look at what’s changed since Elon took charge of Twitter the worse and worse it looks for those that are defending it and claiming that it’s better these days.
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Correct, that’s not useful. If searches are turning up illegal child pornography on Twitter, Twitter should use those searches to remove it. If people are searching for child pornography and autocomplete is learning from that, I don’t see too much wrong with having the topics show up, although the pearl-clutchers will. Ideally, the autocomplete topics should be hatred by the available results, so removing actual child pornography would result in removing those topics from searches.
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JFC what the actual hell is wrong with you
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Do you even know what autocomplete is? Because not letting a particular phrase appear in autocomplete in no way prevents anyone from actually searching for that phrase. It just prevents people who weren’t going to search it from seeing that phrase appear anyways.
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Did someone fart or is Matty gaslighting again?
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The proof is in the pudding. None of this happened before Musk.
If you’re pretty sure, feel free to provide sources. Because I can find multiple that say he resigned.
Again, feel free to provide sources for his lying.
Well, Twitter has experience pretty much unprecedented failures, bugs and crashes since Musk took over. To anyone with an IQ above room temperature, those are clear indications that “those people” did something useful.
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Not only did he resign, Musk begged him to stay.
But Matt has to rewrite history to fit his worldview, because reality keeps proving he’s a gullible fool.
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Nah.
Matthew is a threat to himself and his own country.
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Elon supporters: I reject your reality and substitute my own!
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You have no evidence that that is the case beyond Roth’s word, which is useless.
I notice, btw, that 2 or 3 of my comments on this very post showing you lying are still in limbo, perhaps never to be approved. Even my reply to Strawb, showing Roth lying.
Coward.
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You have no right to have your comments approved. Deal with it.
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Of course not. But it speaks very ill of the site. It is, point of fact, ideological based moderation and shows MM to be fragile and cowardly.
And, considering how often he claims he would never do such a thing (despite vociferously supporting Twitter doing so) and since he very clearly is it makes him about 10x the hypocrite he claims Musk is, made up rumors, exaggerations, false equivalencies and all.
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…said nobody not on hallucinogens, ever.
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There’s no need to elevate Elon to Mike’s status.
He is more than capable of elevating himself. And frankly, being even within the general vicinity of Elon should be an insult to anyone.
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It’s not “cowardice” to stop trolls from having their posts get through unless you think a site should be made to host trolls and their speech.
In other words: Free reach ain’t a thing, biiiiiiiiiiitch.
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Of course it is. Hypocritical too.
I think you’re the one trolling here, honestly.
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Show me where you have a right to free reach in the same way you have a right to free speech, then. Go ahead, show me where the law guarantees you both the use of someone else’s private property for the purposes of spreading your speech and an audience for your speech. I’ll wait.
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Show me where that has anything to do with what I just said?
Spoiler: It is always a non sequitur when you start saying “show me where”. It means you have lost and want to move the goal posts.
Go bake a cake about it.
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Can’t find the right to free reach, huh. That’s okay, you don’t have to admit it out loud. 😁
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Show me where your non sequitur is an argument.
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Sure thing. It’s in my basement along with a large cask of amontillado. Never mind those brick-laying instruments…
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[illiterately hallucinates facts not in evidence]
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Maybe if you straight white trash weren’t so uppity and boring and normie, we wouldn’t have so much fun fucking with you.
Go get a black cock shoved up your ass and have your mind opened up a little. This world doesn’t want your kind anymore.
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Shut up
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No, I don’t think I will. You can’t contain this much fabulous.
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[Asserts facts contrary to evidence]
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I’ve had posts get eaten up by the new system. All of which are posts clowning on straight trash like you. It is a mildly inconvenient state of affairs, but unlike you I don’t lose my shit because someone didn’t read my praise for Musk.
Also claiming to have made posts that were hidden is a fucking trivial thing to claim. There was a troll who boasted having over forty posts spammed in three minutes and took that as a sign of something other than obviously triggering a spam filter.
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You have nothing if not for your victimhood.
Why is that?
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sure, buddy, pointing out blatant hypocrisy is “victimhood”. Those sure are words.
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Well, when it looks like a duck….
Oh shit, I suspect you may not be smart enough to understand that, so this might help:
“If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.”
The test implies that a person can identify an unknown subject by observing that subject’s habitual characteristics. It is sometimes used to counter abstruse arguments that something is not what it appears to be.
Source: Wikipedia
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Why is that?
Because that’s their policy – no matter what the issue, no matter who’s elected, no matter how much of the government they control, they will always be persecuted and powerless to stop “it,” despite projecting an image of being the only ones who can.
They could’ve prosecuted the entire fucking “deep state” in the two years they controlled both houses of Congress and the Presidency, yet did nothing. The only people who got locked up were those working for the Trump campaign.
Build the wall? Nope, ain’t got the money.
Repeal Obamacare? They voted what, 40-something times to when it didn’t count…but when it did? They folded like a cheap suit.
Now they’re complaining – that’s the schtick. Without the complaining, and the everlasting investigations that never turn up jack fucking shit, they wouldn’t have anything to do.
And the funnier part is that the morons who vote these people in over and over again keep getting screwed by the cuts they supposedly want, which only fuels their shitty life situations.
But hey, being a broke dumb fuck owning the libs is better than losing the only thing that makes you happy – complaining about everything, especially things that don’t effect their 100-person towns, or run down trailer parks full of meth-heads.
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The only thing you are showing is how hard up you are for some South African dweeb to pork you silly.
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Just post as AC. It’s not worth waiting for the moderation queue and wondering whether it’s just slow or if you’ve been censored.
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I should, but I’m stubborn with too much pride.
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Liar.
💩 = twitter.
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That is an uncalled-for defamation of 💩.
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indeed. Once you flush poo, it stayed flushed.
Unlike a certain house troll 🙁
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“There’s a tampermonkey script for that!”
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Yeah, if only Strawb would learn to use the Reply button correctly.
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yes, it’s in use constantly 🙂
You note I am not responding to the house troll, merely a comment about him. I am blissfully unaware of the idiotic comments themselves, and wish to remain so 🙂
However, in early April, such reports became widespread, with further reports of nude imagery that people thought was being shared privately among a smaller group being available publicly.
I mean, given how much republicans really wanted/want to see Hunter Biden’s dick, to the point that they threw a fit when old Twitter told them they couldn’t publicly available nudes might not have been a bug so much as a feature…
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Well, fuck me, let’s NOT summon the revenge pornographer…
I truly wonder how long before even locked accounts start becoming fully visible again.
Based on how Musk has tossed someone else in front of the bus and GTFO himself (Hello Glass Cliff!) – I am guessing weeks at best.
I didn’t think he could do it, but the CSAM/animal torture bar sounds way worse than the Nazi bar.
Re: Never give awful things a pass
Don’t frame two awful things side by side in comparison.
CSAM/animal torture bars are abjectly awful. Nazi bars are abjectly awful. They are kinds of awful, not degrees.
If one is worse than the other, you end up giving the less-worse object a pass.
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That’s not what less-worse means, but I would say that the fact that one is illegal makes a significant difference.
I give them both a pass. And from another article here on Techdirt, it seems that a lot of former users are doing the same. We’re seeing a mainstream social media site transform into 8kun before our eyes.