FBI Raids Fulton County, Georgia To Seize Ballots On Behalf Of A Guy Who Refuses To Believe He Lost The 2020 Election

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Trump’s going to win the election he lost, no matter what he has to do to make that happen. Surrounding himself with a better set of sycophants this time around has really allowed him to gain some ground in his “be the despot you wish to see in the world” efforts.

His top appointees are just as willing to lie, defame, deride, and overstep the long-accepted limitations of their positions as the president himself. Now that Trump has pardoned the people who raided the Capitol on his behalf in January 2021, he’s going after everyone and everything that pissed him off about that particular election cycle.

Trump’s Revenge Time Machine is taking him and his administration back to Georgia to engage in an unprecedented seizure of voting records, as ABC News reports:

Fulton County, Georgia, officials said Wednesday that the FBI seized original 2020 voting records while serving a search warrant at the county’s Elections Hub and Operations Center.

[…]

The search warrant authorized the FBI to search for “All physical ballots from the 2020 General Election,” in addition to tabulator tapes from voting machines and 2020 voter rolls, among other documents, according to a copy of the warrant obtained by ABC affiliate WSB

The warrant says the material “constitutes evidence of the commission of a criminal offense” and had been “used as the means of committing a criminal offense.”  It was signed by Magistrate Judge Catherine Salinas.

It’s not surprising that Trump would attempt to extract some sort of penance from Georgia after he failed to convert that state into electoral college votes. The governor of the state, Brian Kemp, did all he could to swing the state back into Trump’s favor post-election, including being sued by the DNC for claiming (with zero facts in evidence) that the Democratic party had “hacked” his state’s voting machines.

Trump kept this issue alive by bringing Heather Honey — a fellow 2020 election denier from Georgia — into the in-group, appointing her to a high-level position in the DHS where she would [vomits] help oversee future election security efforts.

What is surprising is that any judge would sign this warrant. The allegations range from “threadbare” to “hallucinatory.”

Specifically, the warrant listed possible violations of two statutes — one which requires election records to be retained for a certain amount of time, and another which outlines criminal penalties for people, including election officials, who intimidate voters or to knowingly procure false votes or false voter registrations.

Records were seized, which means it’s unlikely records were deleted prematurely. And there’s been nothing shown to this point that any sort of voter intimidation occurred… at least not on the behalf of the Democratic Party.

This appears to be voter intimidation of a different sort. Last month, the DOJ sued Fulton County (where the raid took place) for access to 2020 election records. This followed attempts to hold Trump accountable for trying to overturn the 2020 election — acts that included Trump asking the Secretary of State to “find” the votes needed to swing the state, as well as its targeting of Fulton County DA Fani Willis, who brought election interference charges against the then-outgoing Trump.

And, for some fucking reason, Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard attended the raid to seize these voting records.

Accompanying FBI agents on a raid is unprecedented for the chief of U.S. intelligence, whose job is to track threats from foreign adversaries. In her role overseeing the country’s spy agencies, Gabbard is prohibited by law from taking part in domestic law enforcement. Her predecessors took pains to keep their distance from Justice Department cases or partisan politics.

Asked about the rationale for her visit to Georgia, a senior administration official said: “Director Gabbard has a pivotal role in election security and protecting the integrity of our elections against interference, including operations targeting voting systems, databases, and election infrastructure.”

Whatever, “senior administration official.” This is Gabbard hoping to show up on Trump’s radar again, after being sidelined during actual foreign-facing activity, like the kidnapping of Venezuela’s president. Perhaps she’s tired of seeing Kristi Noem flouncing from photo op to photo op as Barbie-in-Chief of the DHS’s invasion of the United States.

I mean…

Two senior officials with knowledge of the matter said Gabbard’s presence in Fulton County was unnecessary and was not requested by the Justice Department. 

Yes, it’s another performance from the most performative administration in US history. And it will always play well because people who like this sort of thing will find this the sort of thing they like. The GOP is a flat circle, or perhaps more accurately, a human centipede.

Breaking up this endless cycle of shit ingestion and shit creation are the side effects of this sort of mutual masturbation: the constant shedding of talent from agencies that already don’t have enough of it, thanks to the administration’s constant purging of anyone who’s not MAGA enough.

The special agent in charge of the FBI’s Atlanta field office was forced out this month after questioning the Justice Department’s renewed push to probe Fulton County’s role in the 2020 election, two people familiar with the matter told MS NOW.

Paul Brown was ousted after expressing concerns about the FBI’s investigation into President Donald Trump’s longstanding and unsubstantiated allegations of voter fraud in the county anchored by Atlanta, and for refusing to carry out the searches and seizures of records tied to the 2020 election, according to the sources, who spoke to MS NOW on condition of anonymity.

Remember all the shit we talked about the USSR and its efforts to rid itself of anyone but party loyalists? Well, we’re doing it right here and now, nearly 40 years after the fall of the Berlin Wall. The GOP says there’s nothing wrong with this as long as it’s the GOP doing it. The MAGA faithful have no problem with this as long as it’s the MAGA front doing it. And the rest of us are expected to live with it, because the opposition party still seems to believe there’s a polite, non-confrontational set of options to be deployed. Let’s hope they’ll realize that’s no longer the case long before they have to issue a strongly-worded social media post about objecting to being first against the wall.

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Bloof (profile) says:

And when nothing is found, they’ll drop it as quietly as they can to try and keep the base thinking they found something and the investigation is ongoing, and will destroy as much evidence as they can to try and stop Democrats being able to see. See the voter fraud task force from the first trump term, stacked with people like Kobach, who disbanded it rather than turn over any findings to democrats becausenit would have been devastating to his career, built on voter fraud claims.

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MrWilson (profile) says:

Re: Re:

Anything they “find” will be blasted 24/7 on Fox and Newsmax like it’s a smoking gun despite the fact that it will be an intentional misinterpretation of a misunderstanding of a complicated process. If any Georgia election officials sneezes, it’ll be presented as obvious evidence of fraud. You don’t need to find a win if you can manufacture one and you don’t need to tell the truth if your base is going to willingly deep-throat any lie you feed them.

Shannon Vanshoon (profile) says:

All of this...

All of this reminds me a lot of one of the events from the animated series Avatar: the Last Airbender, where the one villain Azula grows increasingly paranoid and insane, resulting in her constantly dismissing all of her people for not being loyal enough and thus leaving here alone when the good guys show up.

… Not that there’s a lot of other parallels between the Fire Nation in that show and the current United States government, but there you go.

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Thad (profile) says:

This isn’t just about the 2020 election, it’s about the 2026 one. They’re trying to create a pretext for interfering with the election in November. Trump was on Bongino’s show today and he said

These people were brought to our country to vote, and they vote illegally. The Republicans should say, we should take over the voting in at least 15 places. The Republicans ought to nationalize the voting. We have states that I won that show I didn’t win. You’re gonna see something in Georgia.

(Source: Aaron Rupar on Threads. The link isn’t currently working for me, so here it is on Mastodon.)

They are very definitely going to try to rig elections in November, though I’m cautiously optimistic they won’t succeed. There was a special election in Texas two days ago where a +17 Trump ’24 district went +14 for the Democratic candidate; that’s just a single data point and not necessarily indicative of what’s to come, but a national blue shift even half that size would be pretty difficult to stop even with troops in the streets. He can say “federalize the elections” (or whatever garbled version of that sentiment comes out of his mouth) but that’s a lot different than actually doing it.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

Re:

He can say “federalize the elections” (or whatever garbled version of that sentiment comes out of his mouth) but that’s a lot different than actually doing it.

It’s also a far cry from actually getting Congressional Republicans on board with the idea, especially if they believe fucking around with elections before the midterms will cost them the midterms.

David says:

Re: Well, that is the point

They are very definitely going to try to rig elections in November, though I’m cautiously optimistic they won’t succeed.

But they are now rigging the elections from 2020, and since nobody has duplicates of the ballots they now stole, they will succeed. They will “find” those 11,780 votes that Trump fell short of.

They will use that as justification for not accepting the 2026 (and 2028) results and, if necessary, rigging them in the same manner.

Fascists Say What? says:

Every Day is a new low point

Well, if anyone had any doubt that there is going to be some massive fuckery by the Trump administration when it comes to the 2026 midterm elections, you can let that doubt go. For all the crying that the orange dotard did after 2020, once again the ones crying the loudest are the guiltiest. This is going to be a fight this election season to not let the Far Right hammer the final nail in the coffin of a free America.

MrWilson (profile) says:

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Worse, he’ll just claim it means he deserves to serve another term after this one. As far as he’s concerned, all issues should go in his favor.

If the IRS leaked your tax returns, you’d get an LLM-generated “oopsie” apology but he’s special so he thinks he deserves more than his net worth as compensation.

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Anonymous Coward says:

The irony that he keeps going on and on and on about the 2020 election being rigged when a) he was the President at the time and b) he’s actively trying to rig the 2026 mid terms.

Oh and no concerns about the 2024 election, because he won that one. When he wasn’t President but the other guy was. Can my eyes roll any further back?

glenn says:

There may have been a time when Trump knew that he lost the election though he still refused to admit it publicly (but still admitted it privately). Given his mental decline since then, he may now be unaware that he ever had enough sense to recognize that he’d lost and now only remembers that he said he won. So, he’s both a liar and a demented fool now. There’s no doubt that he’ll have no problem claiming to have “found the votes” that [would have] won him the election.

He’s always been a loser, so I find it odd that he still has a problem with his losing. Well, I guess his mind just fails to acknowledge any reality where he isn’t the big winner, which isn’t really something new with him.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Buddy, a lot of very strange things happened during the 2020 election. This is just ONE of those strange things.

315k uncertified ballots were counted in Fulton County, GA. That is a LOT, and it is really, really bad. Chain of custody matters. These votes aren’t necessarily fraudulent but you can no longer prove they were not fraudulent.

Had the law been followed, those ballots would not have been counted.

If those ballots favored Biden by more than a 11k (very likely, it’s a deep blue area), THAT WOULD MEAN TRUMP ACTUALLY WON GEORGIA.

And you can laugh and jeer but we asre absolutely investigating the fraud whether you like it or not.

Mike Masnick (profile) says:

Re:

It is so tiresome how you spew the Fox News talking points on this. This has been debunked over and over and over again.

There was a clerical error, but all of the votes have been checked and rechecked multiple times, by the MAGA supporting GOP secretary of state and governor of Georgia.

All of the voters were verified, including with the voter ID that you say is so important. The only issue was someone forgot to sign a receipt.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/fact-check-fulton-countys-315-064602452.html

I get it, I get it. You just spew Fox News talking points, no matter how misleading they are, because you’re a boot licking, rights-hating cultist.

But for people who can actually reason, your shit is pathetic.

MrWilson (profile) says:

Re:

Buddy, a lot of very strange things happened during the 2020 election.

The only thing that happened was Republicans we’re upset that they hadn’t done enough voter suppression, so they started looking for fraud everywhere. The things you call strange are actually just intentional or ignorant misunderstandings of complicated systems. Every random conservative who never passed 9th grade math or political science suddenly became an elections expert.

Had the law been followed, those ballots would not have been counted.

If things went the way that you claim, then then any elections official would be able to disenfranchise thousands of voters through incidental incompetence. That would be a constitutional violation.

But of course you would be fine with disenfranchising voters if they don’t agree with you…

John85851 (profile) says:

What happens if Trump won

Let’s assume for a minute that Trump is right and there was widespread fraud and he actually won the election.
According to the constitution, no one can be elected to the position of president more than twice. This means that if he won the 2020 election, he wasn’t eligible to run in 2024.

Surely some election lawyer on his team knows this, but like always, this is performative BS to keep the base fired up and angry about something.
And it’s one more issue that shows how spineless the rest of the government checks and balances have become.

Owlmirror says:

Re:

Adding on to Thad’s response — the exact wording of the 22nd Amendment reads “No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice“.

I think it could be honestly argued that in some counterfactual universe where a candidate received more votes than their opponent in all the requisite counties, and thus won those states, but those votes were not counted for whatever reason, thus flipping the states to the opponent, has not been elected to the office of the President.

This is especially true in the American electoral system, where the actual election to the office of the President is done by the electoral college.

Owlmirror says:

“Magistrate Judge Catherine Salinas”
— bootlicking shill, or being strongarmed/extorted into compliance?

Even if Georgia was fraudulently “flipped” to Trump (“We found a whole bunch of definitely Republican votes that were hidden by the Democrats on purpose to steal the election!”, or whatever crap they come up with), that would not give Trump the win.

232+16=248<270

Presumably, it would be used as precedent, though, to steal similar records from states with narrow Democratic wins in 2020 — Pennsylvania, Arizona, Wisconsin.

I see that Pennsylvania had an even narrower win for the Democrats, and has more electoral votes than Georgia. Guess maybe there isn’t yet a similar shill/vulnerable to strongarming judge there. Yet.

Trump would need to find at least a third patsy judge to steal and corrupt one more set of records to “win” 2020.

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