Tom Homan To Minneapolis: Look, I Warned You If You Weren’t Nice, We’d Have To Kill Again, And Look What You Made Us Do
from the de-escalating-the-press-coverage-and-not-much-more dept
A couple weeks ago, in the wake of the murder of Renee Good, we wrote about “border czar” Tom Homan’s ridiculous TV comments suggesting that if Democrats didn’t stop calling ICE & CBP murderers for murdering people, that they’d just be forced to murder again. Now that that has happened, with the murder of Alex Pretti, Homan was shipped off to Minneapolis to replace fascist-fashion lover Greg Bovino, and he gave a speech Thursday morning that the press so desperately wanted to portray as him “de-escalating” the mess in Minneapolis.
So much of the coverage is about the supposed “drawdown” of federal troops in Minneapolis:
But, if you listen to his actual words, he’s still the same old Tom Homan, and this is all for show. He talked about how he supposedly “begged” for the toning down of rhetoric:
Hey Tom, gonna be bloodshed from who?
From who, Tom?
Because last I checked, the bloodshed has been entirely one-sided. Citizens of Minneapolis haven’t shot anyone, Tom. Your agents have.
But, instead, Homan only wants the “de-escalation” to go in one direction, saying he demands that the rhetoric against law enforcement be toned down, not the demonization of people throughout the Minneapolis / St. Paul region:
Where are the calls to de-escalate the dangerous, hateful language against Somali immigrants? Or asylum seekers? Or anyone exercising their First Amendment rights? Those don’t count, Tom?
And, as Radley Balko points out, Homan has been at the front lines of encouraging violence:
So, look, if we want to “tone down the rhetoric” and stop the “bloodshed,” that is entirely on the federal government and people like you, Tom Homan, to do.
But this is Tom Homan. And he can’t help himself. When asked how many ICE & CBP agents are on the ground, he talked about how 3,000 of them are “in theater.” That’s a freaking military term, Tom. You’re admitting that ICE & CBP is an invading force.
As for the complaint that they “can’t eat in restaurants,” maybe that’s because they’re dining in restaurants, and then kidnapping the staff. Maybe don’t do that?
Also, when asked why they needed 3,000 thugs to invade a city, he lied again, and claimed “because of the threats of violence.”
There has been little violence from citizens of Minneapolis. Just federal officers crashing cars, tear gassing people for no reason at all, kidnapping, beating, and disappearing people. Oh, and shooting at least three people so far. The “threat of violence” came entirely from your forces. Don’t gaslight America and say they had to come because of threats of violence.
You are the threats of violence.
As for the news headlines about a “drawdown,” that’s bullshit as well. In the video above, Homan says the pace of any “drawdown” is dependent on the “hateful rhetoric” stopping. Way to admit to a blatant First Amendment violation, Tom: “the beatings will continue until you’re nicer to us” is a violation of basic fundamental rights.
Homan also admitted that federal thugs will only leave one they get “cooperation” from the city and state governments, getting help in further kidnapping and disappearing more residents.
And, so far, the people of Minneapolis are not impressed and have seen no evidence of any such drawdown or de-escalation.
Tom Homan wasn’t sent to de-escalate anything other than all the negative press attention from federal thugs murdering people in the Twin Cities. And most of the media ate it right up.
The story of Minneapolis is not a story of “threats of violence.” It’s a story of violence, murder, and mayhem entirely from federal officers. The story of the people of Minneapolis is a story of a community banding together to help each other and support each other in the face of such unhinged and unnecessary violence.
Filed Under: alex pretti, cbp, donald trump, gregory bovino, ice, minneapolis, renee good, tom homan
Comments on “Tom Homan To Minneapolis: Look, I Warned You If You Weren’t Nice, We’d Have To Kill Again, And Look What You Made Us Do”
What was the legal term for levying war against the United States, if you’re from there, again?
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Renee Good was a clean shooting.
Alex Pretti was a tragic mistake, but he was a continuous agitator looking for confrontation, he was kinda seeking this out. BTW, he commited a felony when he kicked off that taillight 11 days earlier, and he should have been arrested, and had he been, he would still be alive today.
Everything you say is a lie.
The deportations are the straightforward application of the law. YOU DO NOT GET TO STOP LEO FROM DOING THEIR JOBS.
The deportations will continue until morale improves. (or not, we don’t care, actually, we voted for this)
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I get that you just type that every time, but dude, you at least used to try to respond to the actual points in the article.
It’s quite telling that you moved away from that over the last few months, knowing that you can’t actually respond to the details because your brain is so pickled that all you can do is repeat rote talking points handed out at the MAGA depot.
Pathetic.
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He knows this is his extinction burst—his last gasp at any kind of cultural relevance before his ideology becomes so anathema to modern society that it’s rejected wholesale by a majority of people. The bile is all he has left. He can’t even pretend this is about helping people or progressing the country into something better. It’s all about cruelty and inhumanity because the thought of actually having empathy for other people scares the fuck out of him.
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This is the truly impressive denial of reality I’ve come to expect from you, cakeboy.
Trump won the popular vote. Have you noticed all the woke companies failing? (cue “you don’t know what ‘woke’ is”, lol) (ubisoft is a good example) No one thinks “retard” is a slur anymore except for you and yours. That’s WHY I use it so much, it reminds you how hard the tide has shifted.
You have lost and are continuing to lose on basically every front.
Heck, without illegals, democrats will never win a national election again. Not JUST because the the fraud, but because blue state census numbers will no longer be so inflated. Oh, that’s in addition everyone moving to red states cuz the “blue state model” has failed, utterly.
But sure, go ahead, squawk about how I’m on “the wrong side of history”.
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And his popularity has trended steadily downward ever since he took office. Turns out that whatever they thought about what he said, most people don’t like what he’s doing. But keep telling yourself that we’re “losing on every front” if it makes you feel better. Self-delusion is, after all, the critical skill of 21st-century conservatives.
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Accusation-confession incoming.
Trump won less than 50% of the popular vote. Out of the last 100 years, Trump’s popular vote victory was greater in percentage than only four other elections out of 26 (and one of those elections was his 2016 campaign in which he didn’t win the popular vote despite the electoral college victory).
Previously you’ve claimed he won in a landslide despite me showing that his electoral college victory was far down in the rankings of margins of victory.
But also note the false implication you’re making that even winning the popular vote or the electoral college means it’s okay for him to break the law. That’s not constitutional. You don’t just get everything you want because you became president. If that were the case, and Democrats were actually the radical leftwing communists you like to pretend they are, things would be significantly different.
What does this have to do with anything? You seem to think anyone you oppose is grouped together because you associate them in your mind (which is also why you whatabout Biden all the time with people who didn’t like Biden).
Postcards from your echo chamber. You’re just showing that you don’t get out of your bubble much. This false consensus you’ve imagined from only absorbing conservative media isn’t reality.
Proclaiming that you’re “winning” when Trump breaks the Constitution isn’t exactly winning.
[citation needed]
Yes, that is what Fox News has been telling you. We’re aware.
A lot of the people moving to red states are Republicans and conservatives. Good riddance.
You seem confused about this concept. You keep appealing to a (false) sense of consensus as if a bunch of people supposedly agreeing with your position means that you’re right. That’s not how it works. The percentage of Germans who were Nazis doesn’t make the Holocaust or starting WW2 “right.”
If your entire confidence is built in this false sense of consensus, you’re overdue for a rude awakening and it will explain why you won’t understand when the midterms don’t turn out as well as you’d like. But hey, you’ll just claim the Democrats cheated, so you don’t have to worry that confused little brain of yours.
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…says the person who hasn’t been able to refute (and has refused to even try refuting) any statement of fact I’ve given about the Masterpiece Cakeshop case or non-discrimination laws.
But he never won a clear majority of the popular vote. Even when he won the first time around, Hillary outperformed him in the popular vote to the tune of 3 million votes. What do you think it says about Trump that he couldn’t win even half of the electorate in either of his wins and had to rely on the Electoral College to give him the first win?
I’ve noticed Target failing because it walked back all its “woke DEI” programs and policies. Is that what you meant?
You really don’t, though. There is no one clear, concise, and objective definition of “woke” as a pejorative. If you could offer one, you would.
l—and I can’t stress this enough—mao
fuck ubisoft, all my homies hate ubisoft, hope that shithole company goes under
Two things.
You think “woke” was bad? Wait until Woke 2 comes around, stranger. The pendulum always swings back—and it’s gonna hit you so hard that you’re going to wish you were living in the 1920s instead of the 2020s. The mainstreaming of cruelty won’t last forever; just look at Minneapolis as proof.
lol
lmao, even
You say that like it matters. Everyone knows the Electoral College was designed to benefit both the South and states with large rural populations (which tend to be the areas conservatives do well in, naturally).
Last time I checked, “blue” states tend to pay out more in tax dollars than they take in and effectively subsidize “red” states. Would you mind citing a credible source that says otherwise? And do remember that Donald Trump, right-wing news organizations, Twitter randos, and your ass are not credible sources of factual information.
I’m sure the Nazis thought they’d be on the right side of history—you know, just before the nooses snapped their necks. With the right lawmakers in office, ICE will be dismantled and its lawbreaking agents punished for their crimes. If you want to be on that side of history, you go sign up to be an ICE agent so you can terrorize children at elementary schools and execute people in the street. You’re so confident in being in the right, aren’t you? So why aren’t you joining ICE and terrorizing people based on their skin color?
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Yeah, it’s not worth my time to read all that, let alone dissect it. You are (and I really hate this phrase but it’s so accurate) “on the wrong side of history”.
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Visiting this website to just repeat bullshit we can already read on Fox News and Truth Social is a waste of everybody’s time, but here you are.
You’re winning so much that you just have to keep showing up and saying it, hoping you convince someone, maybe even yourself one day.
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Your degenerate conservative ideology has never joined humanity on the right side of history.
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So you believe one election proves that you’re going to win forever, and you think other people are denying reality?
You believe the only reason your side could ever possible lose an election is because of fraud, and you think other people are denying reality?
Do you know how many elections there were in the history of the USA where someone won the popular vote? Did each of those prove that the side whose guy won was going to win forever?
The USA just had three elections in a row where the incumbent’s party lost. The last time that happened was in the late 19th century. And you think the fact that your side won the third of those means that you’re going to win forever. Sure. Whatever.
I know that time can fly when you’re biologically no longer a teenager, but the election you’re bragging about was more than a year ago. A year can be, and in this case clearly was, a long time in politics.
But I like that you’re so certain you can never lose again. People who believe that won’t put any serious effort into avoiding the kinds of mistakes that lead to them losing.
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And yet you and others have principles that declare that his noxious ideology should be allowed to rear its ugly head in America, again and again, despite the tangible harm and death it’s caused.
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Would you prefer we start killing people who espouse that ideology, no matter their age? Because unless you make the consequences for espousing that ideology so extreme that only the most absolutely vile people in the world would ever dare buy into it, you’re not going to solve shit.
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You should stop lying so consistently, then.
It’s because you’ve devolved and there’s nothing of substance to respond to. You’re just completely making things up, so what is there to do but point out that you are completely making things up?
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Develop some substantive arguments instead of claiming that people you don’t like are “completely making things up,” maybe? Or did they forget to issue you any substantive arguments when they gave you the Techdirt beat at the troll farm?
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Aside from the accusation-confession here, you making the claim but not offering any citations whatsoever makes all your claims bullshit even if you were accidentally right about something. It makes it clear you don’t get your claims from any reliable sources.
Cite a source. URL, weblink, article title, something that actually supports your claims. Without it, you’re just saying, “nuh uh,” like a middle schooler on the playground.
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First of all, it was not a shooting, it was a series of shots. Even if the first shot would have been self-defense, which it wasn’t, the shots after that wouldn’t have been self-defense. A series of shots can never be self-defense, because if the first shot makes it impossible for the targeted person to pose any further threat, none of the subsequent shots can be justified by a supposed threat from that person.
Besides, some of the videos show the murderer refusing a passing medical professional’s offer of medical assistance after the shots. Even if everything up to that point would have been self-defense, which it wasn’t, it would still have become murder at that point.
How exactly is it a “mistake”, or “tragic”, to grab a man, hold him down for a while, beat him up, and, while doing that, shoot him dead with a series of shots? Something can only be a “tragic mistake” if the people doing it thought, “tragically” and “mistakenly”, that what they did was a good idea, when in fact it wasn’t. There’s no way how grabbing a man, holding him down for a while, beating him up, and, while doing that, shooting him dead with a series of shots, could ever be a good idea in the first place. Therefore, doing that can never be a tragic mistake.
Which, in a free country, is not in any way wrong or illegal. Besides, “a continuous agitator looking for confrontation” is a pretty good description of you, too, although of course your cause isn’t nearly as just as his.
Ah, the standard excuse of pretty much all the worst criminals in the world, and their supporters.
Do you have any idea how much this statement makes you sound not just repulsive, but pathetic, too?
The only way to demonstrate this would be to list every single claim about a matter of fact in Mike’s post, and demonstrate why each of them is not just false, but was also made with the knowledge that it is false. If there is even a single true statement in Mike’s post, your assertion is false.
Even if that’s true of the deportations themselves, it’s clearly not true of all the other things the goons are doing, such as arresting citizens, arresting permanent residents, and entering buildings without proper warrants. None of those things are applications of the law.
That depends entirely on the situation. When you’ve got a tyrannical system passing tyrannical laws and enforcing them in tyrannical way, then while it is, of course, under the system’s own laws illegal to oppose it, it is not wrong under any reasonable standard of right and wrong.
You know very well that that’s a paraphrase of a quote that is usually quoted to illustrate the cluelessness and general ignorance of the kind of people who seriously believe that that approach can actually work.
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Lol, rofl, what the FUUCK
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Your continued inability to mount a substantive argument is noted.
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To paraphrase you, not even you believe you have anything of substance to say.
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It’s telling that you don’t have a cogent rebuttal to anything in that comment. What’s wrong, did you run out of lies to tell? You need to go to 4chan to find some new ones?
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Back to the padded room you go.
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A better solution is to break into and damage their computer networks.and cost them money to get fix
Use Tot and VPN to avoid being traced
And use disk.wipimg software to wipe evidence off your hard disk
That’s exactly how abusers talk. “Don’t fight back. Its your own fault if I hurt you.”
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“Look what you made me do.”
Trump knows if he didn’t back down on the assault on American citizens the Dems would have shut the government down and he would (rightfully) take the blame. It’s left to be seen if there is an actual draw-down. I’ll believe it after it happens, not a second before.
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There has been no actual draw down. There is no political will for a draw down, nor do I believe anyone within that agency is even competent enough to reign in the literal convicts they have armed and sent out into our communities.
And Klobuchar, our apparent best pick for governor, keeps referring to them as “untrained.” Ma’am they are criminals. These masked men are literal criminals with criminal records given the go-ahead to do more crimes. Every time I talk about it I sound like I’m off my medication. The insanity of this situation cannot be understated. They are hiring people with criminal records and handing them guns. They have done nothing to remove these people from our streets. They have been here since September.
Minneapolis would cordially like to invite Tom Homan outside for a game of “Hide and go fuck yourself.”
Why doesn’t the knuckle dragging thug Homan just flat out say what he thinks, “DO AS WE SAY, NOT AS WE DO MOTHERFUCKERS!”
Sorry, Not sorry
#1 you are NOT a police agency. Your title is what you are SUPOOSED to be doing. BORDER PATROL. International Airline inspections.
But that was 26 years ago. And when Blackwater had its original name.
#2 you DONT need bullets to CAPTURE people. How many have Died during and after capture? You dont know?
#3 are you keeping Families WITH families? NOPE.
Why are they paying HUGE amounts to people taking those jobs? Cause NO ONE WANTS THEM. WHO would not Jump on a job that pays 100x of min wage?
REALLY wonder how much trainign these folks get? 2 days? 14 days? 45 days? On Gun handling? on LAws they have to live by?
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And why arnt you in Texas? or in ANY of the Republican states that have MORE targets for you to CAPTURE??
i am a nonviolent, small person. Bu you wanna throw hands, Tom? Bring it.
Well, Tommy Boy, every law you break will come back to bite you in the ass come 2029.
'It's simple, we'll keep killing you until you stop saying we're violent!'
His disgusting rhetoric reminds me of how every time republicans and non-republicans have a ‘difference of opinion’ it always falls to the non-republicans to compromise and ‘meet in the middle’.
Ubisoft who made big, pretty but ultimately empty feeling games that got worse with every iteration until people stopped buying them?
Ubisoft who did nothing about a culture of abuse, with the people responsible managing to cling to power even as the company circles the drain?
Ubisoft who, under the direct supervision of one of the nepobaby owners of the company, intentionally used Black Lives Matter imagery for a terrorist faction in one of their games?
Ubisoft whose owner is on the record defending the massive tax breaks it receives?
You know even less about gaming than you do about what is and isn’t ‘woke’.
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Meant tp be a reply to an anon above, but mobile browsing messed it up, oh well.
Also I forgot that Ubisoft spaffed away a tonne of money developing crypto and NFT gaming that people didn’t want. They bet big on a future rejected by their audience, but nah, their problems are down to a historically appropriate black samurai.