ICE Is So Bad At Immigration Enforcement That It’s Detaining Native Americans
from the kavanaugh-said-brown-was-bad dept
Trump’s version of ICE has always assumed that if your skin shade is anything darker than right-wing podcaster translucent, your ass needs to be gone from this country.
Obviously, that’s not how things are supposed to work here in America, which proudly considered itself to be a melting pot (albeit belatedly and after a lot of post-Civil War legislation and jurisprudence). What makes America great is the blend of people in it. And, because this nation is so large, there’s plenty of room for everyone and no non-bigot will ever claim the addition of migrants has somehow made us weaker.
ICE has always been awful. It’s been even worse recently, now that it knows no one in the administration will ever prevent it from being the racist throwback Trump clearly wishes it to be. It’s even bolder now that the Supreme Court — via Justice Kavanaugh’s shadow docket concurrence — said it’s ok to engage in racial profiling.
Racial profiling should be illegal. It isn’t. Among the many problems with racial profiling is that when you’re just looking for people with darker skin, you tend to do absurdly stupid shit like this:
Federal agents have detained a handful of Native Americans amid the Trump administration’s immigration enforcement surge in Minnesota.
The detention of at least five men in and around Minneapolis has sparked an outcry among Native American groups about Indigenous people being racially profiled as undocumented immigrants by federal immigration agents. Minneapolis is one of the largest urban centers for Native Americans in the United States.
When you’re rounding up Native Americans, you’re rounding up the people who have done the least amount of immigration ever. Anyone engaged in these arrests has migrated more times than the people they’re arresting. This — along with the recent murder of Minnesota native and US citizen Renee Good by ICE officer Jonathan Ross — should have been enough to make ICE tuck its tail between its legs and head off to a more receptive, red-coded locality.
It didn’t. And because ICE neither understands nor cares, it’s up to regular American citizens to point out the obvious:
“It is deeply offensive and ironic that the first people of this land would be subjected to questions around their citizenship,” Jacqueline De Leon, senior staff attorney at the nonprofit Native American Rights Fund and a member of the Isleta Pueblo. “Yet nevertheless, that is exactly what we’re seeing.”
You’d think someone at ICE might want to pull back and reassess the situation, especially now that seemingly the entirety of the city of Minneapolis is willing to hassle officers into abandoning the random roll-ups on darker skinned people they constantly claim are “targeted stops.”
If these truly were “targeted stops,” they wouldn’t have targeted people who have far more right to be here than the people detaining them. Jose Rodriguez, a 20-year-old Red Lake Nation descendant, was arrested by ICE in what ICE claims was a “high-risk immigration enforcement stop.” (The officers also claimed to have been “violently assaulted” by Rodriguez but, tellingly, no charges have been filed.)
This was followed up by the detaining of four unhoused tribal members by ICE officers, who found them sleeping under a bridge and decided this — combined with presumably darker-than-white skin tones — was all that was needed to justify some “papers please” hassling, immediately followed by detentions that, at press time (January 14) still hadn’t been ended. (One of the four was released prior to publishing.)
And it’s not like Native Americans didn’t see this coming. They read the Kavanaugh concurrence and saw what’s been happening all over this nation (but especially in “blue” states) and let their fellow Americans know that they should expect ICE to treat them like any other “brown” person officers come across:
A day before Ramirez’s stop, the Red Lake Tribal Council issued a Jan. 7 advisory about the Trump administration’s enforcement in Minnesota. “We all need to be extra careful, and we must assume that ICE will not protect us,” the advisory said.
It’s been obvious since the inception of this so-called “immigration enforcement” surge: anyone not white would be rounded up. The Supreme Court said this is all very cool and very lawful. And the surge in Minnesota is proving that being white is no protection either, not if you’re opposed to what this regime is doing. With threats of a military deployment to Minnesota looming, no American worth their citizenship should continue pretending this is anything more than white nationalism draping itself in executive power.
Filed Under: bigotry, dhs, ice, kavanaugh stops, mass deportation, minnesota, trump administration
Comments on “ICE Is So Bad At Immigration Enforcement That It’s Detaining Native Americans”
You know as well as I do that this isn’t about immigration, it’s about white supremacy.
These aren’t stupid mistakes; ICE is doing exactly what it’s there to do.
If you are white and not currently living in Europe then you are an illegal immigrant. Whites are indigenous to Europe, nowhere else. If you are living anywhere outside of Europe then you are a squatter who stole the land from its rightful inhabitants. Go back to Europe where you came from, now!
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It’s great to be against colonization (e.g. US taking over Native American territory, China invading Tibet, European powers invading anywhere), but the idea that a people of a certain skin color come from a certain region and should stay there necessitates an arbitrary non-scientific categorization of people into skin color groups and an arbitrary timeline where you decide was the “origin date.” Current anthropological academia on the subject is that if you go back far enough, then we all came from Africa. What makes one origin date more valid than another? Should anyone of Saxon descent get out of England because they were indigenous to Saxony? Interbreeding between multiple ethnic groups makes your assertions pretty useless for large swaths of populations.
Your logic would also work for white supremacists in America saying they colonized the US for 200+ years so they’re indigenous now and people from the Middle East shouldn’t come here.
Your propaganda falls apart with a minor amount of analysis.
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By that logic, The British Isles would be 100% vacant, on a far more recent pretext than out-of-Africa.
i would have to return to like 6 different countries, which seems exceedingly uncomfortable.
Re: Re: Re: The best part of that?
Is to EXPLAIN it to all the US white Wannbe’s.
THERE are Very very few Pure bred White Anything.
With all the wars and such there is no Pure, much of anything.
This counts the Euro invasion of the America’s.
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Dumbass.
Re: Lets hit the other side of the coin.
If you are religious. You all came from Adam or whatever.
From a single Ancestor.. Period.
The only ones we should be fighting/assaulting Should be the capitalists that Followed our forefathers to America, AFTER it started to be Settled.
The EU has done very well, Mostly, but Some of our US corps are ingraning themselves into the system.
Re: oh wait!
let us (Europeans) have a word on this, please? We don’t want those MAGA-folks from the US. We are dealing with enough home-grown neo-fascists already.
The only MAGA-minds we accept would be the Make America Go Away caps… 😀
I wonder which part of “Native Americans” ICE doesn’t understand as “Americans that are native of America”.
Nah.
They are doing it because they are racist shitheads who all deserve to hang.
We should treat ice agents like we did the nazis. Every single member gone.
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Most (literally over half) of ICE is hispanic. Some are black.
Hilariously, since NEARLY ALL Ice protestors are white women (like 80%+), someone pointed out that ICE is considerably more “diverse” than the protestors
They are carrying out their lawful duties. You just don’t like the law being followed.
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Source.
Source.
Which law permits them to detain and arrest US citizens, exactly?
Re: Cats and mice
You seem to have missed the blindingly obvious point. The protesters being mostly white, and mostly white women, isn’t an accident — it’s the inevitable consequence of and response to ICE, CBP, and DHS strategy, tactics and actions.
Of course, ICE would love for the protesters to be mostly non-white people and immigrants — it makes life so much easier for the cats, if the mice can be persuaded to obligingly come right to them.
So protesters across the USA have quite explicitly agreed that non-white protesters are at vastly greater risk of being illegally assaulted &/or arrested &/or kidnapped (&/or even murdered) by ICE. After all, the indiscriminate targeting of non-whites is precisely why ICE is there in the first place. It would be profoundly stupid and counter-productive to make ICE’s job easier that way. It would be utterly stupid and counter-productive to make ICE’s job easier that way.
So white people are accepting responsibility for the situation, and the responsibility and risks inherent in actually confronting ICE’s blatantly illegal spree, because white people simply don’t face the degree of risk that anyone “of color”, regardless of actual legal status, does (such as say… native Americans, for example).
White woman are in the front ranks of anti-ICE protest because they are committed to the classic, democratic and constitutional American principles (not to mention simple humanity) and thus are openly doing what they can to shield their non-white friends and neighbors from the ongoing fascist “vermin hunt”.
Those women are a clear example of how ordinary Americans are still committed to saving the parts of America that actually made America great, rather than let American democracy be kicked aside for some hollow, oligarchic, religious fundamentalist, fascist imitation — they’re proof that despite everything, and despite appearances, the American ideal isn’t quite dead yet.
Re: Re: Cats and mice: footnote
Some of the mice have convinced themselves that they can save themselves by dressing in cat’s clothing, meowing like cats, and joining the hunt for other mice — even grab themselves some fine cheese.
These mice will eventually discover that the cats weren’t fooled, but merely exploited their shortsightedness and naivete. When their own turn comes to face the claws, the mice will think it most unfair — but it won’t help them.
Hey, you made a claim. Let’s get a citation for it. (Your ass isn’t a valid source of data, nor you propaganda feeds.)
Also, note how you’re pretending that the uncited claim of greater diversity is somehow a virtue, as if you completely misunderstand the value of diversity. Why would it be better for a group of unqualified thugs violating constitutional rights to be ethnically diverse?
Just another example of a conservative not understanding the thing they’ve been irrationally attacking for years.
Aside from your inability to cite data on the protesters because it’s not being collected by anyone in sufficient, verifiable quantities, it wouldn’t be surprising if the protesters are predominantly white because white people are the majority in the country, the state, and the metropolitan area. And they’re less likely (but not completely) to be abducted by ICE, so it’s considered safer for them to protest.
They literally leaked a memo saying they can break constitutional law. They’ve literally deported American citizens. They’re literally abducting American citizens and holding them beyond statutory limits. They are violating the first amendment rights of legal observers and protesters.
They don’t like the laws being enforced. They like their force being substituted for law. It’s literally what Stephen Miller recently said about taking territory from an ally by force.
You don’t have to keep pretending, you know? You can just come right out and say you are a fascist authoritarian bootlicker. We already know. Stop living in the closet.
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You are free to look it up yourself.
I am not. You (leftists) pretend it’s a virtue. I am pointing out because it is ironic.
They are not, they are in fact Law Enforcement Officers.
You can just go and look at the pictures yourself. Nearly all white, mostly (middle aged +) women. Y’know, AWFLs. It seems unlikely anyone has collected “data” on the racial breakdown.
Spoiler: Just because no one wrote a paper, or the NYT didn’t report on it, doesn’t make it untrue. You have a pair of eyes and can use them, but you won’t, because pretending not to understand obvious things is the majority of leftist arguments.
You’re referring to the use of administrative warrants, and it turns out that is actually unsettled law, except for one district in CA. SO no, you’re just wrong.
They literally have not. 127 US citizens were detained by mistake, not deported in 2025. That’s actually an impressively small error rate. ICE can of course arrest a US citizen who obstructs justice or y’know, tries to run them over with their car. (can shoot them, too). No US citizens have been deported. There have been cases of illegal aliens choosing to take their citizen children with them back home, but that is not at all the same as the children being deported.
So your argument basically boils down to asking for citations on obviously true, yet unmeasured things, and then just making a buncha crap up. Pathetic.
And you didn’t even reply in thread.
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You bring a claim, you bring the evidence. None of us are paid to be your research assistants.
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The burden of proving a claim lies on the person who made the claim in the first place. Your claim, your burden. Bring the proof.
And yet, you’re more than willing to exploit what you believe is a vice so you can act like you’re virtuous. Hypocrisy is a virtue only to fascists.
…who are acting like thugs. A badge doesn’t make someone unquestionably virtuous and heroic, just like a do-rag doesn’t make someone unquestionably wicked and evil.
It’s kind of hilarious that you’re out here bitching about white women when you kind of needed them to deliver votes for Trump so he could win his elections. Or is it that only white women who will prostrate themselves before assholes like you that count as women? Also, if the protests seem less than diverse, it’s probably because you’re looking selectively at photos that only serve your flawed and false narrative. You go look at the photos of the general strike in Minnesota today and tell me 80% of the people in all those groups combined were white women. You’ll be lying so hard that even Fox News would call you out, but you’re still free to lie.
By the same token: Just because some right-wing dipshit makes a claim doesn’t make it true. If there is evidence to back your claims, present it. If not, stop making the claims.
It kind of isn’t, given that administrative warrants don’t have the same force of law backing them that judicial warrants have and the Fourth Amendment is still a thing despite the best efforts of conservative judges to gut the protections therein.
Those detentions weren’t mistakes. Those were active, knowing decisions by ICE and DHS. To say otherwise is to act like the individual arrests of those 127 people were as accidental as you stubbing your toe on a piece of furniture. Worshipping at the altar of Trump because you think he’s God (or better than God) has made you bigoted and stupid. Mostly bigoted, though. Your stupidity was probably an inherited trait.
If you didn’t want to shoulder the burden, you shouldn’t have made the claim. But you did, so you must.
Your claims, your burden. Cite credible evidence or fuck off.
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The answer of a habitual liar.
Do you somehow think calling everyone “leftists” who don’t agree with your version of reality make you more convincing? It doesn’t, it just declares that you have no real arguments or rebuttals.
So just because they are LEO’s they can’t also be thugs?
I have a pair of eyes and I can see that you are a habitual liar that makes up shit and when called out on it you deflect and declare your opponent to be a leftist as if that somehow makes their questioning of your honesty less relevant.
Kind of interesting that the Federal government have stopped collecting statistics about “missing” citizens since the raids started. Deporting a child’s parents means deporting the child because no parent will leave the their child in the hands monsters. And when parents have tried to actually leave their child with relatives that are citizens they were denied that option. So they literally did.
So you argument basically boils down to asserting that unmeasured things with no citations must obviously be true. Sound a bit cultish to me.
TL;DR: Either you are a transparent troll or you are actually this stupid.
Re: Re: Re: "Immigration enforcement" is not "law enforcement"
Quibble: ICE agents are not Law Enforcement Officers.
ICE agents are Immigration Enforcement Officers — with much more limited authority than actual law enforcement personnel.
That’s why they wear vests with “POLICE” emblazoned on them — to imply law enforcement authority that they don’t actually have.
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I did. I found old claims that ICE was 55% white, but that was before the more recent hiring. I am finding people saying there’s no official data, so all claims are estimates at best and bullshit at worst.
So again, if you have a citation, drop it. Otherwise, as we already know, you’re full of shit or paraphrasing some bullshit propaganda source. I’m inclined to believe the latter because you seem to love parroting bullshit talking points.
And again, I’m pointing out that you didn’t understand why some people might consier diversity to be a good thing. If you did, you’d understand why greater diversity in a group that is committing constitutional violations isn’t magically good because ::hand waving:: diversity! It’s not some religious belief that diversity makes everything better. But understanding that would require nuance and critical analysis skills you don’t have. You wouldn’t be spouting this nonsense if you did.
You trying to use it as a weapon is like blasting someone with a firehose because they said water is good for you. The context can change the analysis.
Many law enforcement officers, not just ICE stormtroopers, are unqualified thugs, but ICE is especially full of unqualified thugs. They lowered standards, shortened training, and still many candidates didn’t get through orientation. Their ranks include Proud Boys and January 6 insurrectionists.
Oh, the pictures. Which ones? All of them? Do the pictures have demographic data floating above everyone’s heads? I’m pretty sure we can’t trust your opinion on who is “white.”
So you’re admitting you just assumed based on anecdotal evidence.
First, I wouldn’t trust the NYT to be a reliable source these days. Second, lack of actual verification makes it speculation.
So you have the eye of Sauron? Access to Palantir surveillance systems? You know the demographics of everyone involved by looking at photos that don’t actually include everyone involved? The low level of evidence you’ll accept for a claim is pathetic.
I have the intellectual honesty to admit I don’t have enough information to draw a confident conclusion on the matter. Meanwhile you’re out here half squinting at Fox News coverage and telling Pat you’d like the solve the puzzle before anyone’s spun the wheel.
The 4th Amendment is settled law.
Because the government told you? Did you shine a flashlight up your ass during the pandemic to treat your covid? Swallow a horse paste maybe?
I’m not impressed by authoritarians saying oopsies after doing something they’re constitutionally barred from doing. That is 127 constitutional law violations. By your “all [undocumented immigrants] have committed at least one crime” applies to all the agents who participated in this “impressively small error rate.”
I’d also doubt it’s just 127. Those are likely the ones they know they can’t get away with covering up. And it’s 2026. How many US citizen kids have been smashed face down in the freezing snow and ice in Minneapolis? They’re actively ignoring documentation upon encounter, violating rights by abducting citizens, and holding them for hours. A constitutional violation is a constitutional violation. Apparently you don’t care about that despite all your “it’s the law!” bluster.
ICE is obstructing justice. Also, ICE is assaulting legal observers and protesters who aren’t obstructing. Viewing and video taping isn’t obstruction. They’re literally walking over to people who are far away from them just to assault them.
I assume you’ve seen that happening since you’re pretending you’ve watched all the footage and seen all the videos.
Did you do a seance? Did you talk to Good’s ghost to get a confession that she intended to run him over? Oh wait, everything is obvious to you…
That is actually a deportation even if you could trust the government’s account. This is an agency that has had a large number of indictments and prosecutions fall apart because of their chronic lies and the video evidence shows it. Families of the deported citizens refute the government’s account that it was consensual. In one case, the child was deported with the mother because ICE refused to release her to a custodian. But of course you’ll take everything the government says at face value. It’s always someone else who is lying, not the [checks notes] lying liars who have been proven to lie in court multiple times.
Your standard for obvious is strongly guided by your propaganda diet. What is obvious to you is a programmed frequency illusion mixed with confirmation bias. You don’t see the evidence that contradicts your view.
Note also your laziness. You asserted the photos would show that most of the protesters are middle aged white women, but you didn’t address the claim that the majority of ICE agents were “Hispanic.” Is that also obviously true? Do you have five photos I can look at that will provide me with a detailed ethnicity breakdown on tens of thousands of people?
If a citation proved your assertions true, you’d easily be able to provide one. The fact that you ramble instead of just citing it is telling unto itself. Next you’ll be telling me we haven’t met your girlfriend because she’s from Canada.
Accusation-confessions are like a form of punctuation for you.
Oh, well that means everything I said was completely invalid. So all I have to do to make my delusions reality is get someone to disagree with me who clicks the wrong reply button. Rationalists hate this one neat trick for changing the world!
You still managed to find the reply and reply to it, so it’s almost like that didn’t matter.
Originally from Colorado Springs, Colorado, is Renee Good.
“When you’re rounding up Native Americans, you’re rounding up the people who have done the least amount of immigration ever.”
If we are all from Africa, how has anyone outside of Africa done more or less migrating? Or are you talking about miles traveled?
Working as intended
The kicker is that they undoubtedly don’t think they screwed up because they know that their job isn’t to round up ‘violent criminals’ and get them out of the country, it’s to round up brown people and get them out of the country because in their racist minds brown skin=criminal.