Funniest/Most Insightful Comments Of The Week At Techdirt

from the re:-re:-re: dept

This week, both our winners on the insightful side are responses to tiresome comments from some… prolific commenters. In first place, it’s Rocky tackling some platform/publisher nonsense:

“Fox News and the NY Post are publishers, not platforms. We don’t care to control what they publish.”

The 1A doesn’t care if a private company is a news publisher or a social media platform but it seems you think it’s okay for politicians to involve themselves when it comes to social media. Is that because you want to control them, as inferred by your “we don’t care to control what they publish” when it comes to news publishers.

You can of course point to what part of the 1A that says news publishers and social media sites should be treated differently. I’ll wait.

“Social media platforms, by contrast, offer blanket agreements to users to entice folks to use their platform.”

When you have to lie to make an argument you don’t have an argument to start with.

In second place, it’s JasonC responding to some other nonsense:

How is the TD readership so dumb?

I think you mean, how are you that dumb that you didn’t bother to read the first paragraph of the letter to understand what you thought you should remark upon?

“In furtherance of this oversight, on February 15, 2023, the Committee issued a subpoena to you compelling the production of documents related to content moderation and Meta’s engagements with the Executive Branch.1 In light of Meta’s introduction of a new social media platform, “Threads,” we write to inform you that it is the Committee’s view that the subpoena of February 15 covers material to date relating to Threads.2”

Replies to those commenters really dominated the charts this week, so we’ll start out with one more reply, this time from an anonymous commenter in response to labeling social media “an open forum”:

Social media is not an open forum. I need to make an account to post for one. To do that I need to agree to their rules and oh wait…their rules specify they can remove my posts for any or no reason. You want social media to be an open forum, but it’s not and they make that clear up front

Next, it’s another anonymous comment, this time responding to the idea that criticizing the GOP means you must be a Democratic operative:

What if I told you it’s possible to recognize the GOP’s naked fascism for what it is while also disliking the Democratic Party?

Over on the funny side, our first place winner is Stephen T. Stone with a little sarcasm on our post about Tesla’s patent lawsuit:

The willingness of MM to use TD to produce and distribute pro-Tesla and pro-Musk propaganda weekly is truly impressive!

🙃

In second place, it’s an anonymous comment deep in a thread full of riffs on the joke notion that Musk might sell Tesla to AT&T at an inflated price:

He’ll get $0.69 and HE’LL LIKE IT

For editor’s choice on the funny side, we start out with an anonymous comment about Musk’s payouts to his pals on Twitter:

I love the new Twitter! It’s hilarious how instead of being quiet and complaining about a leftist bias while their own documentation shows a right wing bias, they now blatantly behave with a right wing / ancap bias and even more loudly complain about a leftist bias. This is truly entertaining. Though it is somewhat sad that people believe this clown show.

Finally, it’s another anonymous comment, this time on our post about the crime rate going down after half of a police department quit:

You act like the cops are worthless, but without cops, who would pull you over to plant drugs in your car and shoot you if you fight back?

That’s all for this week, folks!


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Anonymous Coward says:

As usual, TechDirt wants to hide behind the 1st Amendment to advocate for the censorship it loves so much. The issue is never what publishers and platforms are required to do. The 1st Amendment gives everyone the right to censor as they wish and to write as they wish. The issue is the moral obligation publishers and platforms have as members of society that holds certain values as foundational.

News publishers should take pains to report stories truthfully and fairly, regardless of what they wish might be true. They have the right to spin and lie, but they have the moral obligation not to.

Platforms should take pains to allow all viewpoints to be aired, regardless of whether they disagree with them or not. They have the right to censor and silence as they wish, but they have the moral obligation not to.

Local governments should allow public schools and public libraries to hold and teach materials at appropriate grade levels, regardless of whether they believe the things being taught should exist. They have the right to withhold such material as the speech of the government, but they have a moral obligation to teach the world as it is, not as they would have it be.

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Mike Masnick (profile) says:

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As usual, TechDirt wants to hide behind the 1st Amendment to advocate for the censorship it loves so much. The issue is never what publishers and platforms are required to do. The 1st Amendment gives everyone the right to censor as they wish and to write as they wish. The issue is the moral obligation publishers and platforms have as members of society that holds certain values as foundational.

Okay. And I’d say that most of the companies would argue that their “moral obligations” include (1) to their shareholders, such that they are not driving away revenue by platforming abusive assholes (2) to their advertisers, so that their platforms are safe places for their brands to advertise (3) to their users, such that those users feel comfortable on the platform and are not harassed and abused.

What “moral obligations” do you think they should prioritize over those?

Platforms should take pains to allow all viewpoints to be aired, regardless of whether they disagree with them or not. They have the right to censor and silence as they wish, but they have the moral obligation not to.

All viewpoints, including how others on the platform should not exist? How they should be killed?

No one who is not a blathering fucking idiot actually believes that. Again, there are no platforms that moderate based on ideology. They all moderate based on keeping their shareholders, business partners, and users most happy.

That some of those things conflict with, say, your disgusting infatuation with the genitals of children, is an issue that only you and your therapist can work out.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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The mortal obligation of ending slavery should have been a little stronger than the moral obligation to maximize value for the slave owners. Don’t you find it a little odd to push shareholder value, advertiser satisfaction, and eliminating the discomfort of hearing views you don’t like over the values enshrined in the constitution from the days our country was founded?

The only thing I want to do with the genitals of children is to encourage parents and doctors not to destroy them. (A little male circumcision is OK if that’s how you roll.) One day when this madness has passed you will try to forget that you advocated for the opposite.

Mike Masnick (profile) says:

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The mortal obligation of ending slavery should have been a little stronger than the moral obligation to maximize value for the slave owners. Don’t you find it a little odd to push shareholder value, advertiser satisfaction, and eliminating the discomfort of hearing views you don’t like over the values enshrined in the constitution from the days our country was founded?

Only a complete fuckwad like you would consider helping people avoid hate, harassment, and abuse the equivalent of supporting slavery.

Fuck off you stupid fucking idiot. I’ve told you to get off my site. Go the fuck away.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Censorship is evil and immoral. The fact that you want it anyway for viewpoints you dislike doesn’t make it less so. And while your evil doesn’t come close to slavery, you are participating in misogyny, erasure of women, medical malpractice, the destruction of the lives of children, and pushing lies as truth, all the while hoping for the silencing of people who are calling you out for your errors.

Rant and rage all you like. But if you look at the news, you can see that the madness is starting to come to an end.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Okay, Nazi.

Prove to us where Mike is for censorship, the erasure of women’s rights, the murder of children and propagandizing.

I’m sure there’s got to be a ton of evidence based on Techdirt’s entire body of work.

And if you can’t prove, then don’t be surprised when you’re next in the gas chambers. You did imply you might be Jewish, for one…

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JMT (profile) says:

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…you are participating in misogyny, erasure of women, medical malpractice, the destruction of the lives of children…

SM sites’ ToS exist expressly to prevent those things from proliferating. You’re basically claiming content moderation (it’s not censorship) is worse than those things while at the same time baselessly accusing Mike of actual participation in them. Getting Poe’s law vibes, but either way, ya need help.

Rant and rage all you like.

The irony here is impressive. Your accusations are so ridiculously distorted and overblown I’m surprising you could type while hyperventilating. Go outside and breathe man.

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Mike Masnick (profile) says:

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Censorship is evil and immoral.

Censorship is. That’s why we fight against it here all the time.

But content moderation — i.e., the private property owner cultivating their own property to stop assholes and harassment, is not censorship, not evil, and not immoral.

One day you’ll understand the difference.

The fact that you want it anyway for viewpoints you dislike doesn’t make it less so.

I have never advocated “censorship” for anything. Nor have I advocated for content moderation over “viewpoints I dislike.” I have advocated for websites to have the right to stop assholes from harassing people.

You, on the other hand, have made it clear you are a fucking asshole who enjoys harassing poeple.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Content moderation should silence people based on spam, topicality, and decorum, but not on viewpoint. If you think that it’s appropriate, on a platform that allows discussion on all topics, to silence the statement “transwomen are men”, then you are in favor of censorship.

Unfortunately for you, reality does not change itself to accommodate feelings, and pointing out reality is not harassment even if the truth hurts. Oh, and the funniest thing is that when it comes to climate change, left and right have exactly reversed positions.

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Samuel Abram (profile) says:

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If you think that it’s appropriate, on a platform that allows discussion on all topics, to silence the statement “transwomen are men”, then you are in favor of censorship.

If a platform doesn’t want to posting that statement, go to a place that does. I did that as soon as Elon took over Twitter (now X). I left it and joined the Fediverse.

That’s what adults do, not people who feel they need the government to compel platforms to host something they don’t want.

Mike Masnick (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:5

Content moderation should silence people based on spam, topicality, and decorum, but not on viewpoint.

First off, that’s for the site owner to decide, not you.

Second, there are no sites that I know of that moderate based on anything but spam, topicality, and decorum.

Your problem, which you refuse to admit, is that you think moderating based on decorum when it comes from people like you obsessing over people’s genitals, or harassing and abusing people you dislike, is over “viewpoint” when it’s actually over decorum.

If you could just understand that one single fact, you’d realize just how stupid you look.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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The site owners get to choose what they want to do. They don’t get to decide that their choices should not be criticized.

It’s kind of funny that you consider a plain true statement about reality to be harassment when your site is overrun with people sputtering and cursing and acting in ways that a kindergarten child (in private school) would have grown out of.

People can only ever be the sex of their bodies. Black people commit crimes at rates far above their share of the population. That you consider saying these simple truths to be harassment is an indication of just how far gone from reality you are. But reality does not care what you think. It stubbornly sits there just existing, whether you like it or not, whether you shut your eyes to it or not.

Mike Masnick (profile) says:

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Your problem, you fucking idiot, is that you can’t comprehend that you are a horrible, abusive, asshole. So when people tell you that and kick you out of their private space, you have to make up a story about how it’s really about “viewpoint discrimination” and people “not liking the truth” rather than the reality: YOU’RE AN ABUSIVE ASSHOLE with a weird obsession with children’s genitalia.

You should get help. You need it.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Censorship is evil and immoral.

Censorship is stopping someone saying something anywhere. SLAPP lawsuits are censorship attempts. Moderation is deciding what topics, and sometime which people are part of a community. That you want to preach that transgendered people should not be allowed to express themselves and that you should be able to say that on any and all forums is pure evil.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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The moral obligation of ending slavery should have been a little stronger than the moral obligation to maximize value for the slave owners. Don’t you find it a little odd to push shareholder value, advertiser satisfaction, and eliminating the discomfort of hearing views you don’t like over the values enshrined in the constitution from the days our country was founded?

The only thing I want to do with the genitals of children is to encourage parents and doctors not to destroy them. (A little male circumcision is OK if that’s how you roll.) One day when this madness has passed you will try to forget that you advocated for the opposite.

JMT (profile) says:

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Don’t you find it a little odd to push shareholder value, advertiser satisfaction, and eliminating the discomfort of hearing views you don’t like over the values enshrined in the constitution from the days our country was founded?

The Constitution tells the government what it can and can’t do, mostly what it can’t. It’s got nothing to do with a SM platform having a “No assholes” policy per it’s users wishes.

The only thing I want to do with the genitals of children is to encourage parents and doctors not to destroy them.

Not a thing that happens.

(A little male circumcision is OK if that’s how you roll.)

Genuine question: Why is this ok?

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Male circumcision is OK because we have the experience of millions of males having had it done with no apparent harm, and it has deep cultural and religious significance for lots of people. It’s another one of those things where the decision is best left to parents, because trying to ban it would just lead to widespread civil disobedience and turmoil.

The constitution embodies the things the founders thought were extremely important. It instructed the government not to interfere with those things, but not private citizens, because preventing such interference by private citizens would itself be violating the principles. Nevertheless, that does not mean that private citizens should not be encouraged to uphold those principles. One of those principles is that people should not be prevented from stating their opinions, regardless of viewpoint.

Trans surgical mutilation is happening all the time, and we’re finally starting to see the lawsuits emerging from children whose bodies and lives and ability to have children were destroyed by butchers in the thrall of this horrifying social delusion, and sports leagues starting to ban men from competing in women’s divisions. (Despite this, I do not support making such sex-change mutilation illegal, even for children, as long as they have permission from their parents. The free market will shake this out, once the lawsuits truly get going and terrify the practitioners out of this unholy business.)

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Just because I was born with a cock doesn’t mean I can’t participate in women’s events. You claiming that I can’t is the result of ignorant expectations made of men who want to wear dresses and be pretty.

You claim to protect women but what you really want is to rape their wombs, like every straight male who hasn’t picked up a pride flag as a sign of penance.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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“discussion” about circumcision.

Unfortunately, you are right in saying that it holds cultural significance to some people.

Bowever, you are clearly wrong about it having no significant harm to males. People DID die from it in the past, and, oh, here’s Genesis 34:1 – 35:5 telling of how two Jews forced their sister’s rapist and his entire clan to get circumcized in order ro murder all of them in cold blood.

Even back then they knew the side effects of circumsicision.

And one more thing, Hinduism and most Chinese religions do not believe in circumcision, and if so, it’s only for medical purposes.

lies about 1A

Again, Hyman, you’re not in a public square. This is a private space, and you’ve been told to either behave or leave. Instead you’re abusing anonymous posting to harass us.

If, somehow, Mike has to revoke anonymous posting because of you, you’ve have effectively silenced me. Something you’re probably going to be very happy about because you never believed in free speech for all.

more lies about gender change operations

The sort of shit you talk about is why gender reassignment surgery is a tool of last resort. And only after everything else has not helped.

And I get that sports leagues, assuming they aren’t irreedeemably corrupt, are also grappling with transgender atheletes, if only to provide what they deem to be a fair playing field. And even trans atheletes are trying to find their way around these things. And I’d trust the trans atheletes over a Nazi like you.

Your sophistry does nothing to hide your Nazi beliefs.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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No one is forcing people to circumcise their sons if they don’t want to. The fact that male circumcision is not universal does not change the fact that millions of boys have undergone this procedure without harm; to those who do value it culturally and religiously, the risks are an acceptable trade-off, as witness that many fathers who have undergone the procedure do not hesitate to have it done to their own sons. As with child sex-change mutilation, the appropriate thing to do if you believe it’s wrong is to try to convince people not to do it, not to try to force them not to do it.

As has happened with “Communist” and “Marxist”, your team has so deracinated “Nazi” and “racist” and “hard-right” and “white supremacist” that shouting “Nazi” is meaningless, if you hope to have any effect on people who do not already think as you do.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Yes, exactly. Many things are done to children without their consent because, duh, they’re children, and do not yet have the wisdom or knowledge to consent to things that need to be done at their current age. Like going to school, just to name one thing that every child would probably opt out of, if asked.

If you want people not to do this, you need to persuade them. You can try using force, but using government force to suppress religious and cultural practices rarely works out well.

Of course, people like you despise the freedoms given by the Constitution. You hate freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of association, and the right to petition, because all of those are used to marshall opposition to the evil policies you would impose on America.

Rocky says:

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Of course, people like you despise the freedoms given by the Constitution. You hate freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of association, and the right to petition, because all of those are used to marshall opposition to the evil policies you would impose on America.

And what evil policies are those? Telling a fuckwad like you that you aren’t welcome on someone’s private property?

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Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:6

Preventing people from saying that transwomen are men. Allowing people to force their way into single-sex surfaces for which their bodies disqualify them. Teaching lies in public schools. Forcing people to affirm lies. Forcing people to violate their religious beliefs in service to those lies. Letting criminals walk free. Preventing schools from accurately assessing the performance of their students. Giving racial preferences to favored victim groups. And on and on.

JMT (profile) says:

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Yes, exactly. Many things are done to children without their consent because, duh, they’re children, and do not yet have the wisdom or knowledge to consent to things that need to be done at their current age. Like going to school, just to name one thing that every child would probably opt out of, if asked.

So now you’re comparing the worth of education to circumcision?!

If you want people not to do this, you need to persuade them. You can try using force, but using government force to suppress religious and cultural practices rarely works out well.

Who said anything about using force? And I’m not trying to persuade anyone of anything, I’m just pointing out the hypocrisy of you (falsely) accusing parents and doctors of wanting to “destroy” childrens’ genitals but then saying circumcision is perfectly ok just because it’s done for religious reasons.

Of course, people like you despise the freedoms given by the Constitution.

You paint me with a very broad brush despite the fact nothing I have ever said supports anything you claim I believe. It’s all just paranoid rantings.

You hate freedom of speech…

I really don’t. You seem to hate that there can be consequences to free speech and that my freedom of speech allows me to kick you off my website.

…freedom of religion…

You can religion all you want, right up to where you want to impose your religion and it’s dictates on me. Then you can fuck all the way off. Also, freedom of religion is supposed to apply to all religions equally, but wow, once religion definitely thinks it’s a lot more equal that the others…

…freedom of association, and the right to petition…

I genuinely have no idea why you think I “hate” these. I doubt you know either.

…because all of those are used to marshall opposition to the evil policies you would impose on America.

I’m genuinely curious what evil policies you think I want to impose on anyone.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Just because you hold circumcision in low esteem does not mean that other people do. Circumcision is OK because the foreskin is literally just a bit of skin that millions of men have had cut off with no ill effects.

Sex-change mutilation is sterilizing, painful, irreversible, and ineffective at its goals, because people can only ever be the sex of their bodies regardless of costuming, medicine, or surgery.

I would make neither of these illegal, because such decisions ought to be left to parents and doctors. The harm of sex-change mutilation will soon be ended by lawsuits anyway. Of course, the left does not extend the same courtesy to conversion therapy.

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JMT (profile) says:

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Sex-change mutilation is sterilizing, painful, irreversible, and ineffective at its goals, because people can only ever be the sex of their bodies regardless of costuming, medicine, or surgery.

At this point you’re basically the equivalent of a Flat Earther spouting a bunch of BS not taken seriously by anyone with actual medical and psychological expertise. You’re unhealthily obsessed with something that would have almost no impact on your life if you just spent your time on more worthwhile pastimes.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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What a weird point of view. Many people are active in movements that don’t concern them directly, because they believe fighting for a righteous cause that helps other people is worthwhile. Not mutilating and sterilizing mentally ill children seems like a good thing to fight for even if it’s not about your own children.

Anonymous Coward says:

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Boys have abused their penis privileges for far too long.

Literally nobody cares if straight white males get their useless cocks bruised a bit. Cock and ball torture is an entirely acceptable kink and absolutely healthy. Just ask Stephen and TAC.

Maybe you’ll see the light after your cock gets mutilated a little.

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Rocky says:

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As usual, TechDirt wants to hide behind the 1st Amendment to advocate for the censorship it loves so much.

What you call censorship is what I do when I tell someone to leave my property because, you know, it’s my property but also because of the part of the 1A that says I’m the sole arbiter of who I want to associate with. Seems you conveniently ignore that part of the 1A.

You on the other hand think it’s okay to take a metaphorical shit on someone’s private premises and the owners should just shut the fuck up and accept it.

Platforms should take pains to allow all viewpoints to be aired, regardless of whether they disagree with them or not. They have the right to censor and silence as they wish, but they have the moral obligation not to.

Blah blah blah, I have a moral obligation to make sure amoral assholes don’t shit my property up to the detriment of my other guests. I don’t want nazis, misogynists, racists, religious nuts, fanatics and other assholes on my property, regardless of its size and number of guests.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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I want

I understand what you want, and I understand that the 1st Amendment gives you the right to do what you want in this respect. There are all sorts of things that people want that are morally wrong, and all sorts of excuses people use to want and do those things anyway.

What you won’t get to do is to prevent other people from criticizing your immoral desires and behavior.

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Rocky says:

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I understand what you want, and I understand that the 1st Amendment gives you the right to do what you want in this respect. There are all sorts of things that people want that are morally wrong, and all sorts of excuses people use to want and do those things anyway.

You just can’t stop yourself from being intellectually dishonest it seems. I get to do whatever I want within reason on my on property, I get to decide with whoever I want to associate with, I get to decide what topics I allow to be discussed. Now, if you think that is immoral – what’s the morality of a fuckwad like you who want to force yourself and your views upon others, who demands the use of other peoples property against their wishes?

What you won’t get to do is to prevent other people from criticizing your immoral desires and behavior.

They can criticize all they want but they better well damn do it on their own fucking dime. The last part is something you don’t understand because you think forcing yourself upon others is a moral right. It’s almost the same twisted reasoning many rapists use.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Freedom of speech is a moral right. The 1st Amendment allows private parties to censor as they wish, but legal and moral are two different things. My “demands” don’t impose any obligations on anyone else, any more than vegetarians demanding that people stop eating meat, or PETA demanding that people stop wearing fur.

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Rocky says:

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You are aware that the story is built upon a “study” from SEGM? A non-profit that actively lobbies for conversion therapy among other inhuman practices.

The debate isn’t a debate, it’s an astroturfing effort by anti-trans organizations. I’m not surprised some people were bamboozled in to writing about the so called debate, they didn’t actually look for the origin of the story.

Regardless, you wont care about the above since you are a “righteous” fanatic that will force yourself upon unwilling victims any way you can.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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As if the advocates for sex-change mutilation are impartial? As I’ve said many times, this is why we have culture wars, not culture debates. The polarized sides are not going to change their minds, and the battle is for the persuadable middle, with the winners imposing their views on the losers. Fortunately, the opponents of mutilation have reality on their side, and that should be enough to let them win.

Rocky says:

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with the winners imposing their views on the losers.

Here’s why you are wrong fuckwad, you and your ilk are the ones who is trying to impose your views on other people. Just like how you think you are morally right to force yourself upon others against their wishes, you think you are morally right in trying to make people conform to your specific view on what gender and sexuality means.

You have essentially declared that parents have no say in how they deal with their kids when it comes to gender and sexuality but you have no fucking problem supporting circumcision because that’s “religious” or “cultural”. Guess what, there are cultures that embraces non-binary sex and gender – but that doesn’t count apparently.

Here’s the real kicker though, culture is actually a very wide concept – and that means a family can have their own culture, so why do you want to insert yourself into their life, choices and culture?

The truth is, you can’t stand the thought of people being different and that is why you are a fanatic. You want everyone to conform to your views.

Anonymous Coward says:

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Guess what, there are cultures that embraces non-binary sex and gender – but that doesn’t count apparently.

I remember when Hyman tried to shit on the idea that Native American cultures embraced non-binary gender roles.

Then he linked to an article that only said that the term to describe that concept was a contentious one, and not the idea itself.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Gender roles are cultural artifacts, except as dictated by the physical reality of people’s bodies – only women can bear children and breastfeed them, as the obvious example. I’m not an anthropologist, so I couldn’t even begin to tell you how the many different indigenous societies around the world behaved or what they believed. It’s harder then ever to figure this out now, because native cultures have been influenced by social mixing, and academicians are (and always have been) tainted by their own biases and wishful thinking.

If self-contained native societies want to admit people whose bodies disqualify them into single-sex spaces, they are free to do so. No free society should constrain how people dress, behave, or work based on stereotypical gender roles. Physical reality cannot be altered by belief, and people can only ever be the sex of their bodies.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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The limits are about trans people forcing their way into spaces for which their bodies disqualify them, teaching that their beliefs are true in public schools, and forcing other people to affirm their beliefs.

There is a difference between people being allowed to live as they choose and people forcing their beliefs on others. Even this Supreme Court has said that discriminating against trans people in how they dress is against the law.

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If I need to be around other women having a cock isn’t going to disqualify me, just because some idiots whose minds are still rooted in the 1950s said otherwise.

You’re on the losing side, Hywoman, and the fact that even the site owner feels the need to call you out is proof. Your cause is dead and buried. The reason you can’t see this is because you’re secretly in the closet.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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On the contrary, I believe that sex-change mutilation should not be made illegal, even for children, but children should be required to have the consent of their parents before such mutilation, medical or surgical, can be applied to them. It is the left who want to cut parents out of the process, and who have made conversion therapy illegal where they have colonized government.

Trans people do not get to dictate the culture in which they are embedded. Regardless of what they believe, in American and European society today, people have social, cultural, and religious taboos against mixing sexes in certain contexts, and therefore people should not be allowed to force their way into single-sex spaces for which their bodies disqualify them. And culture is totally irrelevant when it comes to physical reality – people can only ever be the sex of their buddies, and therefore public schools should not teach otherwise and people should not be forced to affirm otherwise.

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lies about what Techdirt does

As usual, Hyman, you don’t care to read what Techdirt has actually reported on. And you clearly seem confused as to whether you want Techdirt to advocate for the 1st Amendment or censorship.

Go the fuck home and brush up on making a coherent argument.

something about news outlets

It is a shame that the Founding Fathers tolerated and participated in “journalism”, ie, of the yellow variety. It is a bigger shame that the American government allows propaganda to be aired in sovereign countries at the taxpayer’s expense.

However, propaganda, gossip, and the like are sadly the norm.

advocating for free reach

Just no. You clearly hate private property laws. Are you sure you’re not a crazy sovcitter?

Even posting here means you agree to follow the rules and social conduct of this site. If you clearly do not like this site, please exercise your 1A rights to not associate with us, regardless of how you feel about the matter.

lies about public schools and government

They… usually do as you ask. Just because you don’t like how they do so is none of your concern.

You’re not welcome here, and what you think is harassment is the consequence of your own hateful actions, Hyman. The privilege of posting anonymously is not supposed to be abused like this, and yet you continue to do just that.

Hell, even if I try to correct my ways, you keep tempting me to fall back into the nasty ways…

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TechDirt advocates for censorship outsourced to private third parties who are not bound by the 1st Amendment when they censor viewpoints that the site owners of TechDirt don’t like. I would prefer that TechDirt advocated for freedom of speech and criticized large generic private platforms who censor opinions based on viewpoint, but TechDirt will not do that as long as the censorship is of viewpoints (and facts!) that the TechDirt site owners oppose, such as the fact that transwomen are men and that Black people commit crimes at rates far above their share of the population.

In this post, TechDirt once again pats itself on the back for a commenter extolling the legalism of the 1st Amendment while its spirit is being violated. When TechDirt does this, I point it out.

As for things being none of my concern, you do not get to control what other people are concerned about. I do not care that you or others do not welcome me here. The site owner is free to delete my posts if he chooses.

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