Texas SWAT Team Destroys Home While Searching For The Wrong Person At The Wrong Address

from the nothing-says-badass-like-a-self-inflicted-black-eye dept

To be sure, SWAT operations are pulled off flawlessly around the nation every day. The right addresses are hit. The right windows are smashed. The right doors are destroyed. The correct perps are arrested. The proper people are filled with bullets if needed, etc.

But, far too often, they go wrong. Often more concerned with delivering an awesome show of force than handling things professionally, SWAT teams do all the wrong things: wrong houses, wrong people, senseless destruction of people’s homes, extended standoffs with houses containing nothing but the family dog or, in one case, a house containing nothing but nothing.

When it’s all said and destroyed, the invaders leave. Those who remain are left to clean up the mess created by the cops, whether or not officers actually managed to get their man. Here’s another data point for the case against violent entries by law enforcement, provided this time by the Galveston Police Department. (via FourthAmendment.com)

Members of an island family assert they were injured and traumatized and their house wrecked by a SWAT team searching for a homicide suspect who wasn’t there and who was later cleared of involvement in a shooting death.

The police department argues the team was only following its training when it raided a house in the 5300 block of Avenue O, shattering windows with “flashbang” devices, kicking in doors and ripping out wires.

Erika Rios, her 16-year-old son, her 18-year-old daughter and her daughter’s 16-year-old friend, were asleep about 2 a.m. Sunday when the children awoke to the megaphone-amplified sound of Galveston Police Department’s SWAT unit announcing its arrival, Rios said Thursday.

You’ll notice a lot of really wrong things happening here. First, the suspect wasn’t supposed to be a suspect. Second, the best defense the cop shop could offer was basically “just following orders.” Third, the raid was performed at 2 a.m., which is generally considered to be an “unreasonable” (in the constitutional sense of the word) time to be performing warrant service.

Rios and the children were forced to walk shoeless across broken glass by the SWAT team. Rios and her son were both handcuffed. The supposed suspect, Cameron Vargas, had left the house more than two hours earlier.

And, as if all of that wasn’t terrible enough, there’s more.

After police had cleared the house of all occupants, officers continued to break garage windows with a wooden stick, Rios said.

An officer ripped out two cameras in her living room and kitchen, but she still had one that captured the whole raid, Rios said.

“When the officer found the other camera, he started laughing and said, ‘who keeps cameras in their living room,’” Rios said.

The first is just a form of bullying, destroying something of value just because you can. The second part is extremely disturbing, suggesting officers wanted only one narrative — theirs — to survive.

Here’s Police Chief Doug Balli’s official shrug at the thousands of dollars of damage his officers caused.

“SWAT is trained in a specific way to raid a home, which includes working from the outside in,” Balli said. “They need to ensure there is no threat to themselves.

“Police work is inherently dangerous and anytime we have a warrant, we do a threat assessment and since this was related to a murder case, the risk to ourselves increased.”

Bullshit. Police work can be dangerous but it isn’t inherently dangerous. Whatever “threat assessment” the PD performed prior to this raid didn’t manage to take into account the person they were seeking had been falsely accused of the crime. It didn’t take into account the fact that the wrongly accused suspect didn’t live at that address. If the PD had performed any surveillance prior to warrant service, it would have discovered both of these facts, saving the Rios family the terror and wanton destruction inflicted on them at 2 in the morning.

The attorney representing the family claims the PD did know the suspect was no longer in the home when it carried out the raid. SWAT officers then tried to make the raid about something else when they failed to find the suspect they allegedly knew had vacated the premises two hours earlier.

Buzbee asserted police knew Vargas’ whereabouts before they carried out the raid and told the Rios family they were searching for “guns and drugs.”

“They later tell your daughter that they are looking for ‘guns and drugs’ but the arrest warrant being executed is for a particular person accused of a crime who doesn’t even live at the address and isn’t a family member,” [attorney Tony] Buzbee said. “You later learn the police knew the actual whereabouts of the, actually innocent, ‘perp’.”

This has led to the police chief being briefly sidelined while city officials try to repair the damage done to their poker faces.

Police Chief Doug Balli is on paid administrative leave for no more than 10 days after city leaders were blindsided with news about a SWAT raid that terrified a family and did an estimated $5,000 in damage to their home, City Manager Brian Maxwell said Saturday.

“There was a major breakdown in communication and we want to figure out why the city was not in the loop,” Maxwell said. “This decision was solely based on the lack of communication and not related to the raid.

Um, what? The lack of communication is directly related to the raid. City officials first learned about the raid when the Galveston County Daily News published its article. You can’t pretend one doesn’t have anything to do with the other. This internally incoherent statement is probably the right one to make, though. It refuses to admit any wrongdoing by the police department or its city oversight by pretending the raid was completely above-board, even if it targeted an innocent family’s home, rather than the home of the (actually innocent) murder suspect.

But Maxwell may have overstepped here.

To be reimbursed for the damage to her home, Rios would have to speak to the city’s risk manager and fill out forms, Maxwell said.

The city’s insurance would cover the cost, he said.

I certainly hope he’s talked to the city’s insurer. Most won’t cover stuff like this because it’s considered to be damage lawfully created in the course of legitimate police work, which means there’s nothing for the city to be held liable for. But if Maxwell wants to set this precedent, he should. And maybe the inevitable insurance rate hike will be enough to deter excessive deployments of the PD’s Excessive Force Squad.

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David says:

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Oh, the perp could have been using the cameras for ambushing the SWAT team.

So it was a matter of safety to disable them. And “disable” and “destroy” both start with the letter “d”.

And any recording could have been taken to better prepare the perp next time around.

Just saying that “there can be NO valid excuse” may be too strong. Which means that it likely cannot be ruled straight from the bench rather than asking a jury’s opinion.

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JasonC (profile) says:

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The problem with your argument is that you’re ignoring the word ‘valid.’

No, the cameras cannot be used to ambush the police, because they don’t deal with the cameras until the scene is secured.

Meaning nobody is around and capable of ambushing them as you suggest.

They have no right to take the recording of the search, regardless of whether it would help ‘better prepare’ the ‘perp’ next time. The 4th Amendment does not permit the government to just take or destroy whatever they want. If they want the footage, they need a fucking warrant for it.

You are wildly incorrect.

Anonymous Coward says:

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Wrong. It’s the same as cops claiming you can’t have a phone or device because you might summon a mob. Those cameras could be accessible from elsewhere, while super scary dangerous someone monitors every move of the cops.

Yes it is utter and compleat bullshit, but that’s the reasoning.

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davec (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:3 Just speculating as to why their training might call for disabling the cameras.

Wrong. It’s the same as cops claiming you can’t have a phone or device because you might summon a mob. Those cameras could be accessible from elsewhere, while super scary dangerous someone monitors every move of the cops.

The few facts we do know is that they were looking for the shooter in a murder. If the shooter was armed with an automatic weapon that may have been what prompted the use of SWAT. If someone can monitor the location of police inside a home, they don’t need to see the police, they can shoot through the walls to where the police are.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Whenever cops justify anything with “they followed their training,” they’re just admitting that their training is wrong and negligent. That indicts all of law enforcement. They’re saying any other law enforcement officer so trained would have done the same thing. That’s not a defense. That’s an admission that the system is broken.

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Anonymous Coward says:

I disagree with the first paragraph. Swat teams should be used sparingly and not for every arrest or search. I’d go so far as to say every arrest should start without the use of swat. There is almost never a reason for windows to be smashed or doors destroyed either; especially as a first response. Those are tactics not for police “safety” but designed for shock and awe and just another example of the militarization of the police. Even most murderers are not going to get in a gun fight with a couple regular police who approach them on the street, pull them over a block or two from their home, or show up to arrest them at work.

David says:

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I disagree with the first paragraph. Swat teams should be used sparingly and not for every arrest or search. I’d go so far as to say every arrest should start without the use of swat. There is almost never a reason for windows to be smashed or doors destroyed either; especially as a first response.

I think you are misunderstanding what is happening here. This is SWAT team training, with some citizen springing for material and location, to provide variety at negligible cost to the department. They’ll not put untrained officers on an actually serious job.

I am willing to bet that such private home destruction jobs with knowingly absent criminal will have a quite higher ratio of officers on training wheels in the roster than the actual high-danger scenarios (which a specific team may not actually encounter for decades) for which SWAT teams are intended.

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Barney says:

Re: SWAT sparingly

yeah, but real problem is the huge proliferation of these para-military teams across the nation.
there’s little actual need for SWAT level violence.

a moderate SWAT capability at the state police level is all that is needed.

But having an expensive SWAT unit is a matter of prestige for even relatively small police departments. And with actual SWAT work a rarity, these super-aggressive military-style people are assigned routine police work instead — like search warrants — unnecessary violence ensues frequently and unsurprisingly.

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That Anonymous Coward (profile) says:

“To be reimbursed for the damage to her home, Rios would have to speak to the city’s risk manager and fill out forms, Maxwell said.”

Nope.
You assholes came to the wrong place, at the wrong time, and I have video of you destroying my property because you could.

I am not filling out a single form, I am not going to be at the mercy of your insurer.
I’m going to sue you civilly and get a lot, then I’m going to push you have you charged criminally because you KNEW the person you were looking for was not in the home at the time you decided to violate my rights & terrorize my kids.

Good luck getting QI to stand up when the judge see’s the video of the cameras being ripped out as the cops didn’t want anything to challenge their version of them screwing the pooch & their admission they were looking for guns and drugs… things not listed on the warrant at all.

Y’all might need to fire that chief so you can start to have enough money to make me whole & compensate me for your lawless gang going wild.

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davec (profile) says:

First of all the SWAT team didn’t go to the wrong house. They went to the correct house dictated on the search warrant. They weren’t looking for the wrong person, they were looking for the person on the warrant. The person on the search warrant was innocent as everyone is until they are convicted. If you want to take away QI, take it from the judge or whoever signed the search warrant.

They won’t do that because then no one would ever sign a search or an arrest warrant again.

When you train police officers, you tell them “this is what we want you to do and this is how we want you to do it”. It doesn’t mean that the person they are looking for has to be found guilty or that what they are looking for has to be there. If they follow that training then they should be PROTECTED. If they did not follow their training and only to the degree that they didn’t follow their training should the officers be held liable.

Since most of the narrative comes from the family’s attorney Mr. Buzbee, we don’t know all the facts. Assuming the facts are as Mr. Buzbee stated then the family would deserve to be made whole; not by the police officers (if they followed their training), but by the city of Galveston.

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PaulT (profile) says:

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Huh, I don’t see people executed by police, having property destroyed by police, having property stolen be police. Yet, I still have police nearly. Wonder what the difference is?

What you seem to take as a daily inevitability would be astonishingly rare in most places, and would lead to an attempt to stop it from ever happening again.

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davec (profile) says:

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Huh, I don’t see people executed by police, having property destroyed by police, having property stolen be police. Yet, I still have police nearly. Wonder what the difference is?

We all want to hold the police responsible for criminal behavior, but when you demand they be responsible for unforeseen consequences of their training or honest mistakes then people will no longer want to do that job. Kim Potter was sentenced to prison as retribution for making a mistake that cost someone their life. As I pointed out in earlier comments, doctors and nurses kill roughly 250 times as many people as the police do. If we sent them to jail for their mistakes, then no one would join the medical profession.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:3

You really love making the legal retribution ordered by the law on Kim Potter as some sort of karmic revenge that she didn’t deserve, do you?

Tell us, do you think that anyone interacting with trigger-happy policemen should be punished for failure to account for cops pissing their pants? Should we have to account for your feelings when we celebrate racists getting fired based on their WhatsApp messages?

How many do you feel need to be murdered or jailed to make up for Potter’s “retribution”?

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:3

We all want to hold the police responsible for criminal behavior, but when you demand they be responsible for unforeseen consequences of their training or honest mistakes then people will no longer want to do that job.

You say that like Tyre Nichols’s death was a little “whoopsie-daisy” mistake like spilling a glass of milk or trying to pay for something with a $1 instead of a $5. It was actually the product of institutional failure⁠—starting with those police officers believing they were wholly justified in their use of force throughout that fatal encounter and going all the way to whoever the fuck trained those officers to believe that even the smallest sign of disrespect or resistance to their power is a slight worthy of brutal physical violence.

If a cop makes a good faith honest mistake, that’s fine. But the cops talked about in this article didn’t make that kind of mistake. They likely knew the suspect wasn’t there when they did the raid. They destroyed property that didn’t need to be destroyed for no reason other than to destroy it. They saw cameras in the house and destroyed those in an attempt to cover up any and all evidence of their “mistaken” actions. I don’t see how, barring bodycam video that incontrovertibly refutes what was seen on the video from the camera in the house, anyone who isn’t kissing blue ass can say the cops were acting in good faith in that situation.

The police should be held to account for their actions and the decisions that led up to those actions. Was a SWAT team truly necessary for this raid? Was this raid truly necessary if the police already knew the suspect had left the residence? For what reason did the police refuse to confirm their information if they didn’t know? For what reason was all that property destroyed if they knew the suspect wasn’t on the premises by the time said property was destroyed? Every one of those questions needs a good goddamn answer, and until those answers are provided, the police aren’t being held to account⁠—at least not in the sense that they’re holding themselves responsible for actions that are far from being “honest mistakes”.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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And wanton destruction of property, when nobody is offering any resistance, is noting more than wanton bullying just because they think they can get away with it, or are you claiming that police are traine to be bullies that lose respect in the communities that they are meant to police.

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davec (profile) says:

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And wanton destruction of property, when nobody is offering any resistance, is noting more than wanton bullying just because they think they can get away with it, or are you claiming that police are traine to be bullies that lose respect in the communities that they are meant to police.

If you are referring to the cameras and it was not part of their training to disable them, then of course the officers should be held liable and it should be brought up in the lawsuit by Mr. Buzbee.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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What about:-

After police had cleared the house of all occupants, officers continued to break garage windows with a wooden stick, Rios said.

That again is wanton destruction. Also, why move everybody outside, as there are rooms inside a house where people can be contained.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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When you train police officers, you tell them “this is what we want you to do and this is how we want you to do it”. It doesn’t mean that the person they are looking for has to be found guilty or that what they are looking for has to be there. If they follow that training then they should be PROTECTED.

You know how I keep talking about the whole “police are being trained like the military” thing? Those three sentences are what I’m talking about. Police around the country are increasingly trained not to serve and protect or to do their jobs with the most minimal of intrusions into someone’s life, but to do anything and everything to keep themselves “protected” while trying to catch a suspect even if that means destroying property that didn’t need to be destroyed and hurting people that didn’t need to be hurt. You apparently care more about cops being free to wreck innocent lives in the name of “justice” than about those innocent lives, and that alone says all we need to know about you.

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davec (profile) says:

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You know how I keep talking about the whole “police are being trained like the military” thing?

SWAT—Special Weapons and Tactics is trained like the military and that’s why they are different from normal police officers. While I am not sure, disabling the cameras and breaking the windows in the garage to throw in flash bangs maybe part of their training. If they followed that training, then they should be protected and the one in the hot seat should be the one who assigned SWAT to this call. Maybe that’s why the police chief is on paid administrative leave.

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nasch (profile) says:

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SWAT—Special Weapons and Tactics is trained like the military

Unfortunately not. The military is trained in things like rules of engagement and deescalation. Police in the US, including (especially?) SWAT teams, are trained that everyone is a threat, and it’s us vs them, and it’s OK to kill them in order to stay safe. The military have the Uniform Code of Military Justice. The police have qualified immunity. We would actually be a lot better off if our police were more like our military, which is a pretty sad state of affairs.

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/what-do-military-police-do/

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Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:2

The military is trained in things like rules of engagement and deescalation. Police in the US, including (especially?) SWAT teams, are trained that everyone is a threat, and it’s us vs them, and it’s OK to kill them in order to stay safe.

It’s funny how military training actually focuses on not killing people unless someone in the chain of command says its okay even though one of the primary skills taught is killing enemies. The police stands that on it’s head even though their primary job is to make communities and people safe.

And the extreme difference between the two professions is that if a military kill someone outside ROE they’ll end up in a military court, a cop just claims QI and walk away in almost every case.

Davec here argues that cops needs more leeway than military personnel in fucking warzones. Imagine if someone argued that military personnel doesn’t need to know the ROE and the UCMJ so the they dare to do their jobs because it’s “dangerous” on the battlefield.

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davec (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:3 That was fucking hysterical.

Davec here argues that cops needs more leeway than military personnel in fucking warzones. Imagine if someone argued that military personnel doesn’t need to know the ROE and the UCMJ so the they dare to do their jobs because it’s “dangerous” on the battlefield.

That was fucking hysterical. It is obvious you have never been in the military, boot camp or the brig. I’ve seen men handcuffed to a shovel with buckets of sand on each end. They ran these men from one end of the base to the other. At each end of the base, they had to dig a hole and bury the sand, then dig the sand back up to fill the buckets. When these men collapsed, they were dragged back, hit with batons and forced to start again. I personally had my head repeatedly bashed against a locker, other guys were choked or forced into some demeaning exercise for simply pissing off the Company Commander.

I was in the Navy boot camp, but the boot camp scenes from Full Metal Jacket were damn near a documentary of what we endured. When we got out of boot camp, we followed orders!

The UCMJ states that only commissioned officers are to be called sir yet day one of boot camp you are required to call everyone who is not a boot, sir.

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davec (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:2

From the article you posted, are you suggesting that police officers call a person’s boss to help get them to comply?

“People in the military are also held accountable by anyone in the military who outranks them. Any higher-ranking Marine might remind a lower-ranking Marine she needs a hat if she walks out of a building without one on her head; just as any higher-ranking soldier can tell a drunk lower-ranking soldier he needs to go home and sober up”.
“Try telling the neighbor kid in Miami to take his hands out of his pockets and see what happens.”

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davec (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:4 You are funny.

What I’m suggesting is that the military is trained in how to effectively manage situations, and the police are trained to kill without hesitation. And we need more of the former and less of the latter.

The only thing the military needs to kill every man, woman and child on the planet is the order and they will carry it out even if that includes them. Is that really what you want for policing?

Scary Devil Monastery (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:5

You know, davec, we’ve figured you for a dishonest troll for a long time now but honestly? You’re off your game there.

The US military has patrolled actively hostile zones like Baghdad and Kabul with fewer civilians killed than US law enforcement racks up by orders of magnitude.

When even the fucking military, trained to kill, can restrain themselves in a hostile warzone where the public often loathes them, what’s your excuse for Breonna Taylor, George Floyd and this latest attempt by officers of the law to turn a living human being into a pinata?

Nowhere else on this planet will you find officers of the law racking up anywhere near this sort of body count, except in one particular type of place.

Countries in the developing world run by warlords and totalitarian regimes. That’s where the US cop finds peers today. No civilized nation has these issues with their police officers. None.

Every last excuse of yours as to why US police officers need to do shit this way has been proven fallacious already. This is now an “only in america” problem where those defending cops are left trying to argue that the US alone seems somehow unable to do better.

When your arguments all boil down to *”But…we just suck! We CAN’T do better! Every other nation is just so much better than we are at this!” it’s time to face reality.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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“Neither judges or politicians would do their jobs if they were sued or arrested for making an honest mistake, yet we expect police officers to do theirs.”

I think some sort of reference material is in order here, from where did you obtain this conclusion?

Yes, all of law enforcement is expected to perform their job duties thoroughly and with professionalism. Why would you think diffently .. now as to their actions, well …..

audreyluv1 (profile) says:

TX SWAT TEAM @WRONG ADDRESS

The Galveston Task Force, led by GC Sheriff’s Ofc, did a botched raid on my apartment on Nov 10, 2022. I am 71yo, had just had heart surgery after dying & miraculously coming back, & they broke my door down while yell. I was asleep on my sofa by the door: when my eyes opened 3 AR-15 rifles were pointed @ my head thru the broken door. They finished knocking the door down & I was ordered outside in my nightgown, hands up, yanked thru the door on the heart surgery side & handcuffed while officers went inside yelling a name I did not recognize.After a while, Apts Mgr ran up to tell them they were @ the wrong apt & advised of my condition with open-heart surgery pending.They released my cuffs as the lead law enforcement officer angrily inferred liability to me by saying “Well your neighbor was ——- —–; did you know that?!” I was told to go inside; officers then knocked on a nearby door. Door numbers were clearly displayed; they were not checked or verified per apartment management & maintenance. I was blocked on the Galveston County site when searching for a warrant or incident info. I submitted a Complaint to IA in Nov 2022 & it was delayed;I was finally given a File# on Jan30,2023–11days ago.I emailed Galveston Mayor Craig Brown & Councilwoman S.Lewis a week ago after reading the Mayor ‘had no knowledge’ of the Rios’ raid: I have NOT received a response from either of them to date. I am traumatized by this incident, & as an upstanding senior citizen who has taught “integrity” to Galveston students over 12 years, I am hurt by my mistreatment by law enforcement in Galveston TX. It seems they’re using citizens for training: that’s how I feel. If I can’t trust them, who can I trust? I believe there are MANY MORE this has happened to & it’s been swept under the rug for fear of retaliation. I know there are many good officers who love people & their jobs. I applaud them & pray for their safety & success: we need them! But those who allow power, clout, & incompetence to cloud their judgements, I pray the Lord will cause them to feel the very pain they’ve inflicted on others & convict their hearts for unnecessary oppression!!! Why not check the address before you point guns at people’s heads???

JoeDetroit (profile) says:

If it is so dangerous to law enforcement...

If it is so dangerous to law enforcement, don’t do any raids. It’s truly is dangerous to everyone involved. Just don’t do them. Maybe in in extreme circumstances, where the possible loss of life is worth the risk.

No more raids. Imagine if David Koresh got arrested coming out of the 7/11. No knock or not, none, just stop doing them.

Head Kangaroo (profile) says:

Duty of Care

I am surprised that Duty of Care is not brought up when these things happen.

A duty of care is the responsibility that a person or business has when doing business with, or otherwise interacting with, other people and businesses. Under tort law, duty of care is defined as the responsibility of a person or business to act as a reasonable person would act in a similar situation. A person who violates his duty of care by acting in a negligent or reckless matter is then liable for any harm that another person suffers as a result of his behavior.

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