Elon Musk Claims He’s Not Worried About The FTC; He Should Be
from the musk-is-gonna-musk dept
Soon after Elon took over Twitter and fired everyone, we wondered (somewhat jokingly) if there was anyone left at the company who was aware of the FTC’s consent decree with the company, signed originally in 2011, but which runs for 30 years, and which was updated back in May of 2022. These documents have some fairly strict requirements for the company around protecting the privacy of its users, and also limiting employees access to certain data.
A recent Washington Post article that is mainly about Musk’s actions over the past two months has destroyed his reputation among many who previously were impressed by him includes two tidbits about Musk and the FTC that suggest he’s in for a world of hurt when the agency takes action.
First, while I was kind of joking about not knowing about the consent decree, the article makes it abundantly clear that Musk not only wasn’t aware of the consent decree when he agreed to purchase Twitter, but he still seemed unaware of it after taking over the company:
When one executive met with Musk and voiced concerns about the Federal Trade Commission’s consent decree, Musk assured that person there was nothing to worry about. He said Tesla had plenty of experience on privacy matters, and pointed to his deep knowledge and awareness of the constraints Twitter was under.
Minutes after the meeting concluded, a subordinate of Musk emailed: Would the executive be willing to send over a copy of the consent decree they had just discussed?
Both of these paragraphs should be seen as mindblowing. First, it’s difficult to read this as anything but Musk having no clue about the existence of the consent decree, which has some very specific provisions. Tesla having “plenty of experience on privacy matters” is meaningless in this context. It’s the equivalent of someone asking Sam Bankman-Fried if he understood the laws against money laundering, and SBF responded by saying “I manage my resources well in League of Legends.” It’s not just completely non-responsive, it suggests someone who has no clue what they’re talking about.
The fact that an underling had to immediately then ask the exec for a copy of the consent decree just puts an exclamation point on all of this, suggesting that even his underlings know when Musk is in over his head and they’re going to scramble to try to clean up the mess.
However, later in the article it becomes clear that Musk’s lack of concern over the consent decree is likely creating more and more problems. The article mentions Musk’s order to a Twitter employee to violate the consent decree to give reporter Bari Weiss full access to all their systems:
Musk chose Bari Weiss, a former New York Times columnist, as one of the writers invited inside the company to go through documents.
“Please give Bari full access to everything at Twitter,” Musk wrote to a subordinate in a Signal message viewed by The Washington Post. “No limits at all.”
That was concerning to many inside Twitter — particularly those familiar with the 2011 FTC settlement after hacks of high-profile accounts, including that of then-President Barack Obama. Staffers responsible for her onboarding pushed back and refused to grant Weiss the full access Musk had requested, believing it would violate the settlement.
One former employee described that step as “super unprecedented” and “highly inappropriate,” saying Twitter would never have granted that level of access to an outside party who might suddenly be able to read direct messages, for example.
The pushback, however, was not taken as seriously at senior levels.
Days later, Musk announced deputy general counsel Jim Baker had been “exited” from the company, as the CEO cited what he called his “possible role in suppression of information important to the public dialogue.” Former employees said it would have been normal for an attorney to review documents for release.
That same day, Alan Rosa, Twitter’s chief information security officer in charge of access matters, was fired from the company as well. Employees that week found Weiss’s name searchable in Slack, the company’s internal messaging service. But her access was overseen by a chaperone, new Twitter Trust and Safety chief Ella Irwin.
The Baker stuff is known and has been previously reported, but I don’t believe I’ve seen anyone discuss the FTC implications of giving Weiss “full access” with “no limits at all.” Remember, the first consent decree was focused on the FTC smacking down Twitter because employees had too much access to private user data, opening it to abuse. So Musk ordering that seems like a pretty clear violation of the original consent decree — and the article seems to suggest that the firing of Baker and Rosa may have been to smooth the path to violating the consent decree.
The addition of a “chaperone” almost certainly does not solve the consent decree concerns.
And, yes, the FTC is very much paying attention. The agency could use a big win, and it sounds like its extremely ambitious (but extremely problematic) case against Meta is not going well. And here’s Musk more or less ramping up direct violations. The FTC has asked Twitter for more information on how it’s complying with the consent decree. And, more recently, it became clear that the FTC has ramped up its investigation into the company, including talking to former top execs who have left the company since Musk took over.
FTC lawyers have interrogated two former top Twitter executives in the past month – Damien Kieran, the former chief privacy officer, and Lea Kissner, the most senior cybersecurity officer, the people said. Kieran and Kissner both quit Twitter Nov. 10, alongside the head of compliance.
The probe marks at least the third time the FTC has scrutinized the social media platform over its privacy and data security practices. The review could lead to millions of dollars in fines and a new FTC order imposing obligations on Musk himself that would apply across his companies and remain in effect even if he steps down as chief executive officer or leaves Twitter.
And, as we noted earlier, violating an FTC consent decree can come with serious consequences. This isn’t like some other agencies, like the SEC, that Musk has basically ignored. The FTC doesn’t mess around like that.
Given that Musk is desperate to make Twitter profitable, a costly legal battle or a massive fine from the FTC could be a pretty big problem.
Also: a completely avoidable one. Complying with the consent decree was the kind of thing that Musk could have easily prioritized early on, but he seems to have deliberately chosen not to. If the details of the WaPo story regarding how he handled getting info to reporters for the laughably bad reporting on the “Twitter Files” is accurate, this is a complete own goal. Not just easily avoidable, but also directly made worse by Musk himself for no good reason at all.
Filed Under: elon musk, ftc, ftc consent decree
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Comments on “Elon Musk Claims He’s Not Worried About The FTC; He Should Be”
Musk: “Whaattt? Me nervous about the big bad FTC slapping my cheeks with their scary fines? Nah, I’m not nervous. Not nervous at all.” Nervously lifts his coffee intensely.
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That would imply some self awareness that I truly think he doesn’t possess. I fully believe he isn’t concerned and thinks he can do whatever he wants without any substantial penalty.
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Is there any evidence that he can’t do whatever he wants?
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Don’t think anyone said that Musk couldn’t do the Fuck Around. Only that he could not escape the Find Out.
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The five billion dollar fine the FTC slapped Meta/Facebook with just a few years back for one.
Musk may or may not have to worry about his personal finances being hit by a fine directly but a ten digit fine is most certainly not something Twitter is in a state to handle right now and he’s practically begging the FTC to levy one with his actions.
Re: Re: Re: Is there any evidence that he can’t do whatever he wants?
Uh, did he manage to cancel his Twitter purchase? No, he did not. Pretty clear evidence right there, bucko.
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Anon basement dweller criticizing richest man on the planet: “he obviously doesn’t know what he’s doing”.
Re: Re: Re: You really are the dumbest motherfucker
What’s your real name again bro?
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Matt Bennett, ya dumb fuck
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go away, Chuck
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Considering that at this point Musk has hemorrhaged so much money that he’s not even in the topside of the cream, clearly you don’t either.
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You would know all about basement dwelling, wouldn’t you? Eat some more Cheetos, you’ll feel better
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Over the last year my net worth has improved more than Musk’s has.
Musk…”I’m not afraid of the FTC, let’s see them try to fine me when I’m living on Mars!”
Hopefully they’ll smack him down, and hard. In the meantime, though, has anyone else here noticed that on Twitter you can get analytics on your tweets anymore? Impressions, link clicks, that sort of thing. Why would Musk get rid of that? I always found it pretty useful.
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He probably fired the engineers responsible for that feature.
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I presume it’s so that people can’t tweet screenshots of their engagement tanking since Musk took over
It’s a race to see who hits the Twitter Pinatã first: the FTC or the EU!
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Joke’s on them. The piñata is already in free fall. You’d need a holding company for it to be fun again.
Oh no
you cant tell me what to do!
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Low Priority
The FTC is appearing powerless over Tiktok. If the FTC were to instead pursue twitter for simply looking into its own internal company communications, it would prove the incestuous relationship between government censorship and corporate corruption that tries to run cover for the politicians they favor.
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I continue to find it amusing how you craft these fantasyworld scenarios that have no basis in the land of reality.
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Fascinating how you lie a lot and provide commentary no better than the average left wing FB comment.
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… hallucinated nobody who has ever once shown evidence they are capable of rational independent thoight, ever.
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you never make any arguments, at all
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neither do you
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Which is about all you deserve considering how your shit has been exposed but you continue to double down on it.
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Nor do you, ya dumb fuck
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And yet the pot calls the kettle black.
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Meanwhile, all you do is harrass people, have at least sexually harrassed a regular, and you have brought nothing aubstantial yo the table, all while trying to defend a party that tried to do an insurrection and support white supremacy.
You’re not exposing lies, you’re a filthy brownshirt.
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Why is it always projection with you cultists?
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“Why is it always projection with you cultists?”
Because whenever it comes to propaganda Goebbels old line of “Always accuse the other side of what you yourself are guilty” has been the go-to of the alt-right ever since their spiritual WW2-era predecessor made that line a success.
Koby has come out swinging for the alt-right stormfront kids often enough for is to be obvious who he’s carrying water for.
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And “Bennet” seems to love the same troll rhetoric.
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Damn son, you just got dogged by the owner of the site. How does that feel?
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since the owner of the site is an actual moron, probably pretty good.
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Every post, a projection.
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I was going to say, yes it’s pretty good. Maz can write a wall of text. But then I can debunk the entire basis of the writeup in 30 seconds, and it makes his head explode so hard that he melts down. No counterveiling argument, no new facts, just some weak insults. If Tiktok isn’t afraid of the FTC, you shouldn’t be, either.
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you ain’t debunked shit
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Defending totalitarian states now are we?
You white supremacists are pure garbage.
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Kobes, kobes, kobes,
Let me make two things clear to you: first, you have never, not once, debunked anything I have ever written. Every time you’ve tried, it’s been pathetic and embarrassing, showing how you have no fucking clue of how anything in this world actually works.
Second, you have never made me “melt down” or made my head explode. You’re a toy. A plaything. I love it when you spout stupid shit on my site, because it’s an opportunity to point out just how wrong you are, how confused you are about basic concepts, and it opens up an opportunity to educate people who aren’t ignorant fools, and who actually wish to learn.
I’m embarrassed on your behalf.
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You’re kinda melting down, dude. In theory an “expert” on a topic would not need to tell random commentators they’re a “toy” or “plaything” or that they’ve been “lied to”….except people are successfully callunig out your bullcrap, and obviously you feel threatened. Which you should! You’re lying, and everything you’re saying is contradicted by clear evidence available for anyone to read.
The whole “you don’t understand it but I do” schtick is dumb but could work (particularly amongst your not too smart fans) but even that is contradicted by….actual constitutional scholars. Not that I’m too into the expert fallacy….again the evidence is clear and available to anyone. The government (mostly but not solely the FBI) engaged in censorship by proxy using Twitter (and presumably other social media networks, too, this is merely the only one we have direct proof)
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Then point to the threats. No, you can’t justify that with you fear of the FBI because you support white supremacist.
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that’s not how the law works any more than you have reason to think I’m white.
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And we’re not discussing the law.
You said the FBI was censoring people or threatened to kick Twitter out or implied that bad shit will happen to Twitter if they didn’t process 100% of their tipoffs.
So, where are those threats? All the Twitter Files have shown NOTHING of the sort. Other than the US Government having the audacity to ask for immunity to violating ToS instead of trying to conform to it for psyops…
And while there’s room for discussion regarding 2703 warrants, you’re not here to discuss that.
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The anon to which you’re responding didn’t say you were white, they just said that “you support white supremacist[sic]”. You can be a white supremacist without being white, e.g. Candace Owens and Dinesh D’Souza.
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It’s funny people still think “there are non-whites who support Trump” counts for anything meaningful. All that means is that there’s people dumb enough to shoot themselves in the foot and knife themselves in the gut. It’s a saying as dumb as “not all straight men are rapists”.
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Matty Bennett, the saddest excuse for a troll to ever pollute this site. Every accusation a confession…
You really are pathetic.
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“You’re lying, and everything you’re saying is contradicted by clear evidence available for anyone to read.”
And yet like all the rest of your “evidence” no one can ever seem to find it.
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Not even Matthew himself.
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WOW… debunk something that Mike?
Considering you have no clue of how section 230 works, how in the hell to you think you could ever debunk a Techdirt article?
And in case you forgot, here is your post where you clearly think that facebook can use §230 to dismiss a lawsuit over Facebook’s own speech:
Instead, they will seek a dismissal based on grounds that their speech did not reach the level of actual malice, or perhaps 230.
So, what really happens is that you have no idea what you are talking about and you come in with your whacked out MAGA ideas and we debunk your statements as easily as I did your statement above.
See how that works?
Re: Re: Re:2 Bravely sir koby ran away
“No counterveiling argument, no new facts, just some weak insults.”
You do tell on yourself from time to time.
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“The FTC is appearing powerless over Tiktok.”
The Federal Trade Commission? Powerless?
Koby, in your time around here you managed to drop your credibility faster than literally anyone this side of actual Baghdad Bob through your persistent revisionism…but this one takes the cake.
Twitter is in a binding agreement with the FTC. Twitter is about to default on that agreement.
TikTok may be up to a great many shenanigans but insofar as any of those involve the actual FTC isn’t clear.
“…it would prove the incestuous relationship between government censorship and corporate corruption that tries to run cover for the politicians they favor.”
Uh, so the bill trying to outlaw TikTok in the US currently going through senate and congress with bipartisan support is what, smoke and mirrors?
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Jonathan Turley, an actual Constitutional scholar, says you’re wrong
Daily reminder that Mike Masnick is in no way qualified to speak about legal issues and should keep the word “Twitter” out of his whore mouth.
The FBI engaged in censorship via Twitter, Jonathan Turley that’s just obvious. You’ve been proven wrong and it doesn’t matter how much you try to “explain” it away.
https://jonathanturley.org/2022/12/26/when-the-fbi-attacks-critics-as-conspiracy-theorists-its-time-to-reform-the-bureau/
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That guy jumped the shark back in 2020 when he bought into that voting machine bullshit and got corrected on Fox & Friends by Steve. fucking. Doocy.
I prefer my “scholars” not to be corrected about their conspiracy plots by one of the most empty-headed dumbfucks on cable news.
Have some fucking standards!
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Calling reporting showing you wrong “laughably bad” doesn’t make it so,
…or make you any less a liar.
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So, what were the consequences against Twitter for failing to properly respond to over 60% of the FBI’s requests?
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.. has never once happened out here in the real world.
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Matthew, Elon’s not gonna let you suck it.
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That’s what you think. I’m going to vacuum that Elon Cock like vegetables.
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Jesus fuck you’re an FBI shill
Saying the Baker stuff “was known” does not change that he was an FBI plant and how crazy that he had a job at twitter was.
Saying Musk’s reputation “is ruined” does not make that true, whether you say it or WaPo does….you hate free speech and were going to shit on anything he did regardless cuz he’s calling your bullshit.
And ild FTC settlements that should never have been agreed to fan be fought in court.
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Wow, I was thinking of a word for die-hard cultists of Musk like you, but now I’ve got one: Twitts. You are a legit Twitt.
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I’m lukewarm on Musk, but I really fucking hate censorship, and government censorship in particular, Which Masnick loves, apparently.
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If this were accurate, your posts would look very different and would, for example, have a lot less “Elon Musk is the richest man in the world so how can you critique him”-style defenses.
You’re not very good at lying, despite all your practice.
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Not to mention that he couldn’t tell my posts from Mike’s posts on the basis that our posts both have blue hues (despite Mike’s having a bluer hue and that our posts have our names up above to differentiate who we are).
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Don’t worry, it’s us users flagging your bullshit, ya dumb fuck.
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Suuuure you are. Your full-throated defense of him suggests otherwise.
“…by which I mean privately-held platforms that dare to use their powers of moderation to punish conservatives who break the site’s ToS rules against bigotry and racism. Don’t they know conservatives don’t have to obey any rules or laws they don’t like?!”
“…unless it’s conservatives doing the censoring, in which case f-ck the Not Conservatives!”
IMAX-level projection aside…Elon’s still not gonna let you service his micropeen.
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Jonathan Turley says you’re wrong
The FBI giving ban lists is a first amendment violation.
But who should we believe, an actual constitutional scholar, or a lefty Sanfran blogger with a law degree he never uses (and absolutely should not)?
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… said nobody familiar with the First Amendment, or even the English language, ever.
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Jonathan Turley, no joke, has written books on the first amendment.
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And that makes him infallible or something?
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Actually, that would be a violation of the 1st, AIUI. It’s just that it never happened.
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(Or, I guess, more specifically, hasn’t been shown to have happened by the recent Twitter infodumps.)
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Paid Fox News comtributor is an “actual Comstitutional scholar” Like an antivaxxer is a “doctor” or a weatherman is a “climate expert”
Pull the other one.
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LITERALLY Ad hominem. Fox News pays him to contribute (as do many other media companies) because he’s been a nationally recognized scholar for decades.
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What a huge surprise. The expert on logical fallacies doesn’t know what ad hominem is
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At least it was nice of Matthew to prove Mike was 100% correct in his analysis by finally admitting the extreme-right disinformation propaganda he’s been getting brainwashed by.
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Who should we believe? Certainly not someone like you who by all evidence has the emotional range of a rotten potato and that has to lie every time you make an argument. Old irrelevant man screams at clouds, that’s you.
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Nah we should totally believe you bro. The delusional shit-heel so stupid he makes Chozen look like a Nobel Prize winner.
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You don’t need to believe me, I cited a source. (cuz techdirt has spam controls form like 2005, it blocks most of my URLs)
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That’s a contrived excuse for someone who actually didn’t quote a source.
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Jonathan Turley, you actual moron. Available on his blog but most of it is just reprints of his columns and op-eds for big, normal “mainstream Media” type sites.
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Oh dear God, the spam controls are buggy ever since the move to WordPress from a custom html engine. They’ve accidentally flagged my comments as spam as well as Mike Masnick’s himself! How can it be a conspiracy against you or right-wingers if even the site owner’s comments are getting flagged?
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Where you getting the conspiracy thing? (The flagging thing is obviously coordinated) I just said it was a shitty website.
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Better to keep your mouth shut and let people wonder if you’re crazy rather than open your mouth and prove you hate humanity.
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Who hates humanity? Is this like the guy who calls everyone to right of Bernie Sanders a “terrorist”? Are you that guy?
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Again.
I’m not the one openly harassing Mike or the regulars. YOU ARE.
I’m not the one who thinks Jan 6 was not an insurrection. YOU DO.
I’m not the one demanding the place be shut down with the implied threat that this sort of harassment will continue. YOU ARE.
If the shoe fits…
I have not called anyone who argues in good faith “terrorist”. There’s several conservative voices and at least one asshole I know of that don’t deserve that.
You, who are running a one-man harassment campaign against Techdirt, and the people like you who continue to launch harassment attacks against people who criticized your side, are little better thanthe totalitarians in China and Russia whom you will endlessly defend and shill for, just like your “Republican” leaders.
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Oh god, I can’t take it anymore. You and I need to write yaoi fanfiction together, I cannot hold back being this fabulous.
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Oh look, yet another word you’ve proven you lack any grasp of the meaning of.
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I mean, I actually suspect it’s the one guy who calls everyone “terrorist” and then just uses or several different browsers or wipes his cookies a lot. Or maybe Masnick’s site is so 2005 you don’t even have to do that. Regardless any comment politically to the right of the typical antifa gets hidden.
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Again.
I’m not the one openly harassing Mike or the regulars. YOU ARE.
I’m not the one who thinks Jan 6 was not an insurrection. YOU DO.
I’m not the one demanding the place be shut down with the implied threat that this sort of harassment will continue. YOU ARE.
If the shoe fits…
And “everyone”? You are even more disingenious than I thought. I do not call everyone I disagree with “terrorist”.
There’s actual conservatives who disavow you, your lot and your actions.
And again, who’s spreading disinformation, harassing regulars and and calling people names? YOU, AND THE USUAL CREW. That’s what some people call “stochastic terrorism”, or a form of it.
And besides, you are one step from bombing actual minorites, murdering Jews, and the like, so.
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.. so you admit the sole source for all your claims is hallucinogenic in nature.
Re: Re: Re:5 It belongs in a museum
Damn son that’s a classic outoftheblue accusation. Next up complain about how you spamming the thread leads to you being caught up in the spam filter!
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It bears repeating, but out_of_the_blue was next-level unhinged when it came to the support of copyright extremism. He’d very regularly defend suing the innocent, jacking up prices of entertainment, and other ethically questionable acts purely to mess with alleged copyright infringers.
He didn’t get better with the Trump administration. Like many conservatives, he genuinely thought that buying into Trump’s vapid, baseless promises would let him take pot shots at marginalized communities he detested. He spammed a crapton of links to “but her emails!” conspiracy blogs as if it would convince the judge to rule in Shiva Ayyadurai’s flavor.
And here’s the kicker: as batshit as out_of_the_blue was, he at least had the balls to post links. Matthew Bennett has no such standards. He actively goes out of his way to behave unhinged and get angry when this gets pointed out to him. When you’ve scraped a barrel even lower than the pro-copyright crowd, that is a quantum level of fucked up.
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Weird how you routinely getting flagged for being a troll is a coordinated attempt to silence you, but people getting dogpiled elsewhere for being women/trans/black/gay/whatever is freedom of speech working as intended.
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The flagging thing isn’t coordinated, it’s just a lot of people independently coming to the conclusion you’re a gigantic ass.
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And doing so based solely on the clear evidence in front of them, something there’s no proof of Matthew ever once doing.
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Then sue the government and shut the fuck up about it.
Oh look, the delusional donkey is being delusional again.
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….you cut out the part about “an actual constitutional scholar” to then bold “A law degree”?!? Jonathan Turley TEACHES the law. Constitutional law, IN PARTICULAR.
How fucking dumb are you?
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Not nearly as dumb as you, apparently, since it’s pretty clear I was referring to your delusion about Masnick having a law degree.
Are you sure you’re old to use a computer by yourself?
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I’m surprised he’s old enough to go to the bathroom by himself.
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If he doesn’t have a law degree that’s just sadder then.
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John Turley may have been a constitutional scholar but all he is today is a partisan hack and an attention whore which is an opinion many other constitutional scholars and lawyers hold. No wonder you happily consume his shit with a grin on your face.
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Calling John Turley an attention whore is an insult to sex workers, who do an honest job for an honest pay.
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You sound just like all the people who wanted to pretend Ben Carson isn’t a world renowned brain surgeon.
But Turley isn’t partisan, really, nor is Musk, both are just willing to point out where progressives are wrong, and so you hate them. And that’s all very transparent and sad.
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And 40% of all scientists are religious. Some of the best astronomers in the field are Vatican Priests and very few people have a problem with their contributions to science.
ANd Dr. Oz is also a famed surgeon and he’s selling snake oil and sometimes harmful bullshit.
Ben Carson shilling for bigots just means the man has zero morals and has pissed on the Hippocratic Oath. Just like you and your “Republican” leaders.
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That’s all fine, actually, but you can’t pretend that Turley isn’t a respected law scholar and knows a hell of a lot more about the 1A than Masnick does.
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Turley was a respected scholar – not anymore. All his peers ask themselves “What the hell happened to John Turley?”. When someone change his stance on what constitutes an impeachable offense entirely dependent on who it concerns that person has become a partisan hack.
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No one is.
We’re also saying Turley has pissed his fucking oaths as well. And what’s left of his ethics as well.
Just like you, your white supremacist filth, and your treasonous leaders.
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He’s on Fox & Friends on a regular basis, his blog is full of how it’s all the leftists/democrats fault and how evil they are, he totally changed his tune on what is an impeachable offense when it concerned Trump. By his own words, he identifies as a conservative.
What more do you want? A public announcement in simple language that even slow people like you can understand?
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How fucking dumb are you?
Not dumb enough to believe some asshat who bought into that voting machine bullshit, so much that he got set straight by the muppets at Fox & Friends.
He’s just like all the other “once important” fools who flushed their legacies down the shitter like Dersh, Eastman, and ‘America’s Mayor.’
Re: Jonathan Turley is an idiot, just like you
Supposedly you’re an expert on logical fallacies, but for some reason you can’t recognize “Appeal to authority”.
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You’re right, of course, I am indeed making the appeal to authority fallacy. But since everyone else insists on doing it (and if you don’t they claim you’re citing no sources) ‘m just *doing it fucking better.
One thing is clear, Masnick is definitely not an authority on this, has been proven hilariously wrong, and should stop talking.
Re: Re: Re: You really are the dumbest troll on here
“has been proven hilariously wrong, and should stop talking.”
Always with the projection.
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Why don’t you ever tell us what happened to Twitter as a consequence of not following the FBI’s “ban list”
If there were no consequences, where is the 1A violation?
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Literally not required to make it a 1A violation. That’s not how any of this works.
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It’s funny how the other day I pointed out the cases that prove you’re wrong… and you just ran away and never replied.
Why is that?
Turley’s been wrong about all this shit for years. He’s a partisan hack who sold his soul ages ago.
The courts have made it clear, for it to violate the 1st Amendment there HAS TO BE EVIDENCE OF COERCION, and cases with WAY MORE DIRECT demands to remove speech have been held to be constitutional.
You’re full of shit. Turley is full of shit. I know the law around this issue and you don’t.
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Oh surprise, another day, and another MM piece attacking or criticizing Twitter or Elon personally.
This is definitely a golden era for TechDirt, Double-M, and I hope you can milk it for all it’s worth!
Re: You didn't think your "clever" little plan all the way through did you?
And here you are, pitching a fit about it and getting all worked up over something you are pretending to a not care about. What a surprise.
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Lets assume for a (very very) brief moment that you are correct and that Mike is full of it in this article. The thing to do would be to show how Mike is wrong, and back it up with generally considered trust worthy sources[1].
Crass refusals are… kind of useless. And imply (but do not actually mean) you have no case.
[1] So, technically you could also show logical inconsistencies in Mikes words… But if your the commenter I think you are, that’s … probably too high of a bar (and if you are not, I’m very sorry. nobody, no matter how wrong, should be associated with them)
Is this what being a genius looks like?
Because I know some very smart people and they don’t behave like this. Maybe I don’t know people who are just that smart?
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“Maybe I don’t know people who are just that smart?”
Sure you do. Well, at least you know of such people. Go google for *”Darwin Awards” and you’ll find a great many of Musk’s peers.
I just want to say that it’s getting harder and harder to respond to Matty B’s comments. Every time I do I feel like I’ve just clubbed a baby harp seal to death, or knocked down a trick-or-treater and stolen their candy. Not a good feeling.
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At this point, the best option is to just flag and move on.
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Lot of use of “I” for someone who doesn’t use a real name or even a consistent pseudonym. (Matt Bennet is my actual name, tho it’s pretty common) I don’t even know what you said, but I am quite sure have not stood for anything nor “beaten down” me or anyone else.
Don’t worry, I don’t take it personally…..I literally can’t.
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Shhh honey, the adults are talking.
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Ever notice that anyone who claims to never takes things personally lash out like a schoolyard bully who stepped on a Lego brick when their snowflake emotions get hurt?
More often than not, “I don’t take it personally” is doublespeak for “Don’t take it personally, I’m an asshole to everyone else except those I show mercy to”.
'I can afford that! ... Lawyer who I haven't fired yet, I can afford that right?'
I can understand why he might not be worried, I mean Twitter is doing so great and is in such an amazing state financially that it’s not like a few billions in fines for blatantly and repeatedly violating the consent decree would be a problem to deal with.
Now, can we all please stop pretending these massively wealthy multi-billionaires somehow “earned it?” Musk has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that his success was never driven by his own competence.
No surpise there x2:
– he didn’t care enough to know about Apple’s 30% fee for the app store until it affected him
– he skipped due dilligence when buying Twitter
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The other option
Musk has money. There’s an opportunity here for him to push back.
The FTC has excessive and outrageous powers. No logical person would accept the enforcement of a contract between two people on a third party.
In a rational world, a fair and rightful world, the consent agreement would be null and void on change of leadership, let alone owners.
And that completely ignore the fact that much of what these groups, FTC, FCC, ETC, do, treads upon the constitution. These organisations don’t exist to protect anyone. They exist because over-paid members of congress are lazy self serving bags of crap.
From terms, to process, to their very existence! Everything about these groups is a sham.
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yeah, down with government, like LoDOS said
Re: re: In a rational world, a fair and rightful world
The rich would be able to buy their way out of any problem.
You can’t think of any problems with that approach?
Did you think it through at all? Because that sounds moronic to me.
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Yeah, we let that happen with copyright law and look how that turned out.
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