lol "denied firsthand" so we're trusting Trump all of a sudden?
until that day comes, you are welcome to fuck yourself in whatever fashion pleases you most
here's something a little more impartial for you: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20200601/08223344619/let-motherfucker-burn.shtml
ah it's my favorite commenter, two-time Tim Cushing. chicks says he's the clickiest.
Your point is valid. It may effect change that wouldn't be brought otherwise. But I think the mixture of violent/peaceful is showing police for what they are.
I appreciate your thoughtful response, but I do want to argue about "inducing violence." At this point, peaceful protests are being greeted by excessive force. So, assuming peace will be met with peace is getting no one anywhere. The heat is slowly dying down, but the calls for military intervention are increasing. Police officers are treating peaceful protesters just like they'd treat looters. Reform efforts are important. But fighting the system solely by engaging with civic leaders on their own terms isn't going to move the dial far enough or fast enough. My argument is that years of doing stuff the way government officials would prefer us to do them hasn't brought us very far.
I'm sorry, but you cannot order riots à la carte. You want the parts of riots you like (damaging city/police property), you have to accept the parts that you don't (destruction of private property, assault and injury of innocent people). You have to own it all. At least be honest about the fact that your desire for police reform outweighs your respect for other people's property rights and safety.I own it all. I want a la carte riots. Maybe I can't have them but I can state what I want. There will be collateral damage. But that financial blood is still on the government's hands. Ample opportunities have been given for governments to effect meaningful changes in their police departments. In almost every case, these opportunities have been ignored. If businesses want to pin the blame on anyone, they can look to their civic leaders and PDS who failed to protect them from society and the actions of police officers. I'm not going to sugarcoat this shit with a bunch of hedging. And I'm not going to pretend targeting cops with protests/riots won't harm people not directly involved. But the blame still rests on the officers and those that continually protect them, not the people who are sick of a status quo that has failed to respect them or their lives.
Sorry you got the unbuttered side. The good news is the other side still has butter. So, that's kind of on you. If you want toast buttered on both sides, I can direct you to any number of news outlets who feel the public is best served by generous toppings of butter on both sides of every piece of toast, even if it means being part of the problem.
This is just slander. The reason why everything was okay was because your mom played it cool. She didn't become belligerent. She didn't hop in her car and get into a high speed chase. She didn't resist arrest and go limp when a cop tried to put her into the back seat of a squad car. If you dont get into a confrontation, then the chances of harm or death become astronomically small.First, this isn't slander. I mean, have you read any coverage of defamation suits here? Second: George Floyd didn't resist. Even if you argue (wrongly) that he did, he was still held down by the officer's knee on his neck for three minutes after another officer couldn't detect a pulse. Floyd was as compliant as any human could be for almost three minutes and the application of force never changed.
Venting anger by burning police property can be cathartic, but is this something you would proudly tell your grandchildren? A better question is: What would Jesus do? What would be the way to effect change by showing love to our neighbor?Yes. I mean as opposed to "I stood idly by while police killed thousands of Americans and were greeted with calls for fascist policies by political leaders." WWJD? God only knows. Jesus showed love but the New Testament ends with the world being destroyed. So, extending Christ's love may result in minor mitigation, but in the end, the dude running the entire show decides only the people that voted for him are worth saving. Not sure that's the narrative we want to pursue, no matter what our religious beliefs.
love too hear from citizens who think any crime is punishable by death looking at the raw numbers doesn't flatter the cops as much as you think it does. Sure there are good cops. But there a lot of marginal cops protecting worse cops. And on top of everything there are police unions and qualified immunity protecting the worst of the worst while people like you quote only half of the "bad apples" adage in an attempt to justify the inaction of thousands of cops.
You expect individual gun owners to go out and point guns at cops in large groups wearing riot gear? Are you daft? Guns are not the answer to governmental injustice. They are the answer to violent governmental oppression on a large scale, such as a declaration of martial law.Yes. Be consistent. No. Not daft, just a stickler. Martial law is just around the corner. Better get some practice in.
If this delusion is working for you, stay with it. Nothing backs up your assertions, not even anecdotally. It's not like we need anyone advocating for the rights of armed white men. They've pretty much got all the government deference in the world already locked down. Maybe you with your keen insight can explain why entities like the NRA have nothing to say about the Second Amendment rights of gun-owning blacks who have been killed by police officers. I look forward to your response which will certainly cover the expansive void left behind by conservative-leaning lobbyists who only care about rights when they affect white voters.
quoting American Pie is an undeniable indication you've lost the argument.
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Fuck law enforcement. If they wanted the public's trust, they've had ample time to earn it. Instead, they've cultivated an us v. them attitude and made it clear they'll engage in as much selective enforcement as possible.