The FBI Is Now Looking Into Those Bogus Net Neutrality Comments

from the ill-communication dept

So we already knew numerous reporters, the GAO, and the New York State AG's office are already looking into who was behind the millions of bogus comments that plagued the FCC's net neutrality repeal. And we've already noted how the Ajit Pai FCC has been trying its very best to hinder those inquiries, whether we're talking about the way that it has been blocking and stalling on journalist FOIA requests, or actively ignoring numerous, previous inquiries from law enforcement.

The FCC's efforts to obfuscate the culprit by refusing to share data on this subject may have just become more... complicated. Over the weekend, Daily Beast reporter Kevin Collier noted that two additional AG's offices (Massachusetts and Washington, DC) -- and the FBI -- have also started digging into those fake comments as well:

"The Justice Department is investigating whether crimes were committed when potentially millions of people’s identities were posted to the FCC’s website without their permission, falsely attributing to them opinions about net neutrality rules, BuzzFeed News has learned. Two organizations told BuzzFeed News, each on condition that they not be named, that the FBI delivered subpoenas to them related to the comments."

New York's AG began its investigation last year, but stated in a public letter a year ago that the FCC had actively blocked all efforts by the AG to obtain server, API, and other data that could help identify who was behind the fraudulent comments, some of them mysteriously made by dead people. The AG's office stated Pai's office ignored nine inquiries over a period of five months for more details:

"We made our request for logs and other records at least 9 times over 5 months: in June, July, August, September, October (three times), and November.

We reached out for assistance to multiple top FCC officials, including you, three successive acting FCC General Counsels, and the FCC’s Inspector General. We offered to keep the requested records confidential, as we had done when my office and the FCC shared information and documents as part of past investigative work.

Yet we have received no substantive response to our investigative requests. None."

According to the NY AG's office, about 9.5 million of the more than 22 million comments filed with the FCC during the repeal's open comment period were filed using peoples' names without their consent (including my own and those of two Senators). Last October, the New York AG announced they had expanded their probe, issuing subpoenas to both numerous ISP-linked lobbying and policy organizations (like the industry's dubious Broadband for America policy vessel) as well as a few pro net neutrality consumer groups.

Last week, numerous outlets falsely reported that "Russia" was behind these comments. There's no actual evidence of that (500,000 Russian email addresses were used, but that doesn't mean Russia itself was involved). As we've seen during the similar bogus comments plaguing other US government proceedings in recent years, the usual culprit is almost always the companies that stand to benefit from the regulatory efforts in question, since there's several DC policy shops that apparently sell these kinds of services (read: bogus support for terrible policies) as a value added service.

And while it's pretty clear that the Ajit Pai FCC doesn't want anybody knowing which firm tried to stuff the ballot box and who was funding the initiative, the involvement of the DOJ and several additional AG offices means hiding the truth just got immeasurably more difficult. And depending what investigators find, that could seriously complicate next February's opening arguments in the net neutrality lawsuit against the FCC, which, if the FCC and its ISP allies lose, could end with the restoration of the FCC's 2015 rules, bringing us fill circle.

If it turns out the broadband industry or some proxy organization paid a DC lobbying firm to stuff the ballot box (which has always seemed the most likely explanation given historical precedent), such a self-inflicted wound would be utterly legendary.


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    Mason Wheeler (profile), 12 Dec 2018 @ 12:52pm

    Over the weekend, Daily Beast reporter Kevin Collier noted that two additional AG's offices (Massachusetts and Washington, DC) -- and the FBI -- have also started digging into those fake comments as well

    Huh. I wasn't aware that DC had its own Attorney General. This is something distinct from the AG of the USA, right?

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    Matthew Cline (profile), 12 Dec 2018 @ 1:43pm

    the involvement of the DOJ and several additional AG offices means hiding the truth just got immeasurably more difficult.

    What are the chances that the requested information will end up mysteriously missing?

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      That One Guy (profile), 12 Dec 2018 @ 3:10pm

      'Data? What data? Oh, THAT data. Yeah, that's gone, sorry.'

      Roughly 100% I expect. Whether it be an 'unforeseen hardware malfunction' or 'routine maintenance' I'd give the data the same odds as a snowball in hell of being around when the ones trying to gain access it actually pry it from the FCC hands.

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        Anonymous Coward, 13 Dec 2018 @ 8:53am

        Re: 'Data? What data? Oh, THAT data. Yeah, that's gone, sorry.'

        But Pai does have a note signed by "a Very Trustworthy
        Source "* that says it's true.

        * acutual name signed to the note, and it's just a coincidence that the handwriting looks like that of Verison's CEO

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    Jordan Chandler, 12 Dec 2018 @ 2:11pm

    hmmm

    I thought the US government was ones of checks and balances?

    Also where are the contempt of court orders for not producing the materials?

    Honestly how you win any wars is beyond me.

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    Iggy, 12 Dec 2018 @ 2:17pm

    The FBI? Does this mean fraud and identity theft will be treated as such, with arrests and jail terms?

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    Anonymous Coward, 12 Dec 2018 @ 2:30pm

    "bringing us fill circle"

    editing, editing...

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    That One Guy (profile), 12 Dec 2018 @ 3:15pm

    Prep those cuffs boys and girls

    Yeah, unless the FBI is willing to actually levy some real punishments for refusal to comply I fully expect that they'll get the runaround same as everyone else has gotten up to now. With the responses towards investigation requests up to this point I'd say it's pretty clear that Pai really does not want that data to be looked at by anyone else, and will do whatever he can to prevent that.

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    Lawrence D’Oliveiro, 12 Dec 2018 @ 3:43pm

    But ... But ... Hilary!

    Nobody investigated the FCC under Obama when they tried to pull this sort of th--what do you mean, they didn’t lie? Of course they lied! It was their job! Everybody lies! Isn’t that how the US Government is supposed to work?

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    DB (profile), 12 Dec 2018 @ 4:13pm

    I predict that the investigation will find that Verizon and one other telecom company paid a semi-respectable lobbying firm which subcontracted out to a "grass roots" firm that paid the overseas shop that did the bad deed.

    At every level they were careful to retain deniability. No one at Verizon will have direct knowledge that astroturfing was done, they just paid the generic bills as-submitted. The lobbying firm will claim that they didn't know the grass-roots firm was doing anything but getting legitimate signatures. The grass-roots firm will claim that they weren't doing anything illegal on U.S. soil, that it was all the overseas shop.

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    Anonymous Coward, 12 Dec 2018 @ 5:09pm

    blue's not going to like thos, is he?

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      Anonymous Coward, 12 Dec 2018 @ 7:01pm

      Re: Who's "blue"?

      For those new to the site, "blue" and "out_of_the_blue" refer to those arrogant commentors who pay for the privilege of putting their deathless wit in Techdirt's unique "First Word" and "Last Word", the highlighting done by hyper-links (hence the name "out of the blue"), usually large and always annoying. You see those only rarely because universally reviled.

      It's a particularly apt gibe for in the following piece on "paid-for publishing"!

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        That One Guy (profile), 12 Dec 2018 @ 8:57pm

        Fractally wrong

        I was going to point out that the AC is letting their obsession with blue get away with them again before I read your comment and had to switch gears. How do you get everything so completely wrong? Gross dishonesty or just massively confused, I can't figure out which is more likely.

        To actually clarify for anyone new to the site who might otherwise be taken in by the utterly wrong ''clarification' above, Blue, or out_of_the_blue(though they haven't used that name for years, even if they've never stopped commenting) refers to the site's #1 fan/fanatic/stalker, a grossly dishonest individual who enjoys lying, putting forth hilarious strawmen, and slinging childish insults, all on a site they claim to loathe.

        They have nothing to do with the 'First/Last Word' system, as getting credits for that requires spending money on the site, and I'm pretty sure they'd rather light themselves on fire than do that, and instead that system is aimed at rewarding those that support the site by allowing them to highlight comments they feel are important and/or manage to make a good point by putting it at the top of the comment section('First Word') or the bottom('Last Word').

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          Gwiz (profile), 13 Dec 2018 @ 11:00am

          Re: Fractally wrong

          Oh man. This is frickin' hilarious. Pure comedy gold.

          Blue is trying to deflect away from himself by claiming the words "Blue" and "out_of_the_blue" refers to the First/Last Words. Too funny.

          And by the way, I'm pretty sure it was Blue's comment up there based on the phrase "You see those only rarely because universally reviled."

          He tends to leave out the common expletives that most people use trying to sound superior or something. Most people would write the sentence like this: "You see those only rarely because it is universally reviled."

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        Anonymous Coward, 12 Dec 2018 @ 10:31pm

        Re: Re: Who's "blue"?

        And confirmed. Thanks for taking the bait, twit!

        (And there's nobody new to the site, you said it yourself nobody reads it!)

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    Anonymous Coward, 13 Dec 2018 @ 2:26am

    that didn't take long then! luckily it wasn't concerning a subject that was really important, that affected just about every single citizen in the USA. oh! it was! well whooppee doo! i can guess the outcome of this investigation then!

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    Anonymous Coward, 13 Dec 2018 @ 7:58am

    This is much akin to not only letting the fox into the hen house but also deputizing the fox to search for the missing chickens. Stupid beyond belief.

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    Madd the Sane (profile), 14 Dec 2018 @ 7:30am

    Finally

    So the FBI is finally looking into the FCC fake comments? Why didn't they look into it earlier, back when accusations and evidence was mounting?

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    Ninja (profile), 14 Dec 2018 @ 7:31am

    Better late than never eh? You guys took your goddamn sweet time. There is plenty of evidence showing something was wrong here but it took them several months to say "hey, there's something wrong worth looking into here".

    I hope Pai ends up in jail.

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