Trump’s PCLOB Purge Risks Banning Meta, ExTwitter, Google, And Even Truth Social From Europe

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In his latest “drain the swamp” move that will actually flood the entire ecosystem, Trump demanded the Democratic members of the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board (PCLOB) resign immediately. This may sound like just more petty partisan BS, but it could have huge unintended consequences, including for Trump’s own companies.

Sometimes it helps to actually understand how government works before going in and smashing things.

One of the long list of nutty moves by the new Trump administration last week was to demand that the three Democratic-chosen members of the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board (PCLOB) resign by the end of the day. As far as I can tell, none of them have actually done so, but I imagine their tenure is not likely to last much longer.

Without the PCLOB providing a veneer of oversight on US surveillance, the entire EU-US data sharing framework could collapse, effectively banning Facebook, Instagram, ExTwitter, YouTube, and other US-based services (including Truth Social) from having any European users. Oops.

On Tuesday evening, each of the three members who were picked by Democrats — Sharon Bradford Franklin, Edward W. Felten and Travis LeBlanc — received an email from the White House telling them to submit resignation letters by the close of business on Jan. 23, according to three people with knowledge of the situation.

The people spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of reprisal. They said the email, sent by Trent Morse, the deputy director of presidential personnel, told the board members that that President Trump would terminate their positions if they did not resign by that deadline.

The fifth seat is currently vacant. The Trump White House did not tell the board’s sole current Republican-picked member, Beth Williams, to leave, two of the people familiar with the matter said.

While this could be seen as yet another version of Trump’s dissolving of various advisory boards (including the one investigating the massive Chinese Salt Typhoon hack), there’s a potentially much bigger impact here, which could do serious damage to a ton of American internet companies, including those of the tech oligarchs who lined up behind Trump on inauguration day.

That’s because the PCLOB is written directly into a US/EU agreement that acts as a key check on US government surveillance to ensure European citizens’ data is adequately protected when transferred to the US. Without this, the EU may find the framework fails to meet its privacy standards, and thus bar American internet companies from allowing anyone in the EU to access them.

And, yes, there’s some irony here, given the whole TikTok ban nonsense. The US justified that ban based on the claim that the Chinese government could demand access to data on US users using TikTok. This is the same thing: the EU can now effectively ban US internet companies by noting that the US government can demand access to EU users on those platforms.

In the past, the US might have had a moral high ground to push back on this. But after the TikTok ban, they no longer do.

To understand the details, though, involves understanding some wonky policy that often puts most people to sleep. But stick with it.

First, there’s the PCLOB itself. It was created in 2006 as a (supposedly) independent effort to oversee government activities that might violate civil liberties, in particular looking at efforts by law enforcement and the intelligence community to spy on Americans. Basically every president since its announcement has hated that it exists. Even though it was created in 2006, it wasn’t actually staffed until 2012 (yes, Obama went four years without filling it).

For a short time, it actually did some good work pointing out how the programs exposed by Ed Snowden appeared to be both illegal and unconstitutional.

Of course, soon after that, Congress focused on undermining the PCLOB as punishment for daring to point out the problems of US surveillance programs. By the time the Trump administration came around, the Board was already effectively dead. Trump did actually appoint some members to the board last time around. But now he’s demanding all of them but one resign.

Here’s the other part of the history that’s important; the ability of US internet companies to have EU users literally depends on the existence of this board. For well over a decade, there’s been a very important, but little followed, fight between the US and the EU over “trans-Atlantic data flows” regarding US companies collecting data on EU users.

The US and the EU negotiated a “privacy safe harbor” in which US companies had to get “certified” by random consultants that they “protected” EU data properly. In the wake of the Snowden revelations, EU privacy advocate Max Schrems challenged the Safe Harbor as being a fig leaf and not actually meeting EU privacy requirements, to which the EU Court of Justice agreed, throwing out the safe harbor.

The US and EU negotiated for a while and came up with a new plan, called the “Privacy Shield” rather than Safe Harbor, though it appeared to fix none of the actual problems of the Safe Harbor. It took a few years, but the EU Court of Justice again found the Privacy Shield insufficient in another case brought by Schrems.

Once again, the US and EU negotiated and once again, rather than doing the main thing that would fix the problem (limiting NSA surveillance authorities), the US and EU came to a new agreement called the “Data Privacy Framework.”

Meta, for one, celebrated this agreement in 2023, noting that it was necessary to “continue providing our services in Europe.” It’s not clear if ExTwitter or Truth Social were even aware that this happened, but it was important to both of them as well. I will note that X is listed as being certified under the Framework on the Data Privacy Framework site.

I don’t see Truth Social on the list, though it’s possible it’s registered under another name.

So, here’s where the rubber meets the road: the key part of the Data Privacy Framework that made it more acceptable than the earlier Safe Harbor or the Privacy Shield… was that it relied on the PCLOB to step in and make sure that there was oversight of US government surveillance programs, to make sure they did not violate specific privacy rights of Europeans.

The agreement directly calls out the important role of the PCLOB:

Thirdly, to the extent they carry out counter-terrorism activities, departments with criminal law enforcement responsibilities are subject to oversight by the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board (PCLOB), an independent agency within the executive branch composed of a bipartisan, five-member Board appointed by the President for a fixed six-year term with Senate approval

Without the prong of oversight, it’s quite reasonable to say that the Data Privacy Framework is no longer in effect.

And that could mean that EU data protection regulators could soon step in and block data transfers of EU users to US servers, effectively blocking EU users from using any of these American services. EU privacy folks are well aware.

Max Schrems, who brought the cases that killed both the privacy safe harbor and the Privacy Shield, put out a statement about this as well.

The European Union has relied on these US boards and tribunals to find that the US provides “adequate” protection of personal data. Relying on PCLOB and other mechanisms, the European Commission allows European personal data to flow freely to the US in the so-called “Transatlantic Data Privacy Framework” (TADPF). Thousands of EU businesses, government agencies or schools rely on these provisions. Without TADPF, they would need to stop using US Cloud Providers like Apple, Google, Microsoft or Amazon instantly. 

Schrems notes that companies can still rely on the DPF framework until it is officially annulled, but that could happen relatively soon.

Ironically, Trump’s own Truth Social could be one of the casualties if the EU decides to pull the plug on data transfers. Without a PCLOB rubber stamp, Truth Social may find itself locked out of the European market entirely. And while that might not matter too much to Trump, I would imagine the same thing matters quite a bit to “First Buddy” Elon Musk, whose ExTwitter has been losing tons of users and really needs EU users.

In other words, Trump’s reckless move threatens to cut off American tech giants from one of their most important markets, in a misguided attempt to avoid basic oversight and accountability.

So, yeah, for all of Zuckerberg sucking up to Trump, it may lead to losing EU users on Facebook, Instagram and WhatsApp. What good is self-removing your own spine to suck up to an ignorant authoritarian, when that authoritarian’s bull in a china shop approach to governing might just wipe out one of your largest markets?

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Anonymous Coward says:

Alright what the fuck! I don’t even have anything to say here that’s in any way substantial.

I spent all this time worrying about the fate of 230, and now everyone on my entire side of the planet’s potentially losing access to the majority of the mainstream internet?

Honestly what stops this from banning ALL forms of social media, messengers, etc owned by US companies?

Fucking hell this is so stupid.

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Strawb (profile) says:

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Honestly what stops this from banning ALL forms of social media, messengers, etc owned by US companies?

The fact that this isn’t a ban on social media or messengers in the first place; it’s an unintended consequence of executive overreach. Something that will most likely be fixed as soon as Dump realises that it’ll cause problems for something he owns.

Strawb (profile) says:

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That’s never really been a question of “if”, but “when”. You can’t have two massive narcissistic egos work together like that.

That doesn’t mean that Dump can just ban X, though. There’s no national security excuse for that.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:2

That doesn’t mean that Dump can just ban X, though. There’s no national security excuse for that.
👍

Also:

The fact that this isn’t a ban on social media or messengers in the first place; it’s an unintended consequence of executive overreach. Something that will most likely be fixed as soon as Dump realises that it’ll cause problems for something he owns.

Something tells me Trump will decide to fill the PCLOB with 3 Republicans & 2 Democrats.

Anonymous Coward says:

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And he’s taking it out on literally everyone. Fuck’s sake it’s been a WEEEEEEEK.

(pardon my frustration just this once.)

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Over 77 million Americans looked at that and decided they identified with it.

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That One Guy (profile) says:

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‘Yes the leopards said they would eat everyone’s faces, and sure the head leopard admitted outright that my face was on the menu since the only value I had to him was getting him into office and out of a cell, but I’m sure the leopards were just kidding and will only go after the faces of people I don’t like!’

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n00bdragon (profile) says:

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“But just think of how much more chewed your face could have been if you had selected some other savage cat species to eat it. Really, we should be thanking the leopards for the smallness of their teeth and claws. Think of the lions! Think of the tigers! This is winning!”

That One Guy (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:3

“But just think of how much more chewed your face could have been if you had selected some other savage cat species to eat it. Really, we should be thanking the leopards for the smallness of their teeth and claws. Think of the lions! Think of the tigers! This is winning!”

Left unsaid that the ‘other savage cat species’ in the running was a housecat of course…

Anonymous Coward says:

It won’t happen. Spray-tan Caligula may not give a shit about any of the peons, but he is beholden to the oligarchs who gave him the position and will do anything they say.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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I think he’s meaning tech oligarchs.
And in all fairness, it wouldn’t just be musk that wouldn’t be happy. Zuck, Sundar & Bezos won’t be happy either.

To quote Strawb:
The fact that this isn’t a ban on social media or messengers in the first place; it’s an unintended consequence of executive overreach. Something that will most likely be fixed as soon as Dump realises that it’ll cause problems for something he owns.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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If you needed this much explanation for something that should have been obvious to anyone paying attention, I don’t have much faith in your ability to think for yourself

Anonymous Coward says:

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Also:
Something tells me Trump will decide to fill the PCLOB with 3 Republicans & 2 Democrats. Probably within a few months.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:2

… depends on whether he follows procedures for firing the PCLOB members. At least with the Inspectors General, … he didn’t.

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Arianity says:

In the past, the US might have had a moral high ground to push back on this. But after the TikTok ban, they no longer do.

That moral high ground never existed, precisely because rather than doing the main thing that would fix the problem (limiting NSA surveillance authorities)

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That One Guy (profile) says:

Such a mystery why they'd do that...

First, there’s the PCLOB itself. It was created in 2006 as a (supposedly) independent effort to oversee government activities that might violate civil liberties, in particular looking at efforts by law enforcement and the intelligence community to spy on Americans.

I’m not seeing a problem here, I mean I can’t possibly imagine any nefarious reasons why the same administration that had the DOJ can their civil rights division might not want any actual oversight over government agencies by individuals who don’t consider loyalty to the Dear Leader to be the top priority above all else.

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Matthew N. "The GOAT" Bennett (profile) says:

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Probably because the board is useless.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/06/pclob-book-report-fails-investigate-or-tell-public-truth-about-domestic-mass

They’ve had one win and everything since then has been them missing the mark completely. They spent six years investigating Executive Order 12333 and all that came out of it was a 26 page document describing the EO. They did a report on Section 702 surveillance under FISA (which essentially allows the fed to gather info on you without a warrant) and said that it’s totally not a violation of your constitutional rights because it’s complicated. For the record, this is a bipartisan committee.

In a regular company, if there was an internal committee that was supposed to deliver results and then did not deliver results for multiple years, everyone on that committee would either be reassigned or fired, because it would be a waste of time and money.

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Matthew N. "The GOAT" Bennett (profile) says:

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Oh yeah, valid point, I missed that. My assumption is that Elon will realize he needs eurobucks and bribe daddy Trump to do something about the DPF. Either that or all of those services will discontinue service in Europe, which I personally find very amusing and would permit.

Anonymous Coward says:

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As a user of the internet in the EU, I would not find it very amusing to be functionally cut off from the majority of sites.

Matthew N. "The GOAT" Bennett (profile) says:

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Valid concern. Internet hegemony is a bitch. In the event that it does happen (nothing ever happens) you could probably use a VPN to tunnel into Twitter anyways. I personally recommend Mullvad. Not ideal but there have been plenty of instances of the EU threatening to shut down American social media companies and nothing has happened.

Anonymous Coward says:

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My greater concern is if they just terminate all non-US accounts because of it.

Tiktok didn’t terminate peoples’ accounts when they briefly shut down but, nothing seems impossible.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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Y’know, this might be a bit more hilarious if you hadn’t stolen your display name from someone who believes the possession and distribution of CSAM can be justified. You may want to keep that in mind, since it would be so easy to mistake you for him.

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Matthew N. "The GOAT" Bennett (profile) says:

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I understand your concern, Steve. I believe all CSAM distributors and holders should have millstones hung around their necks and then thrown in the ocean. This comment serves as permanent record of my statement. Feel free to link it to others in case of confusion. Again, thank you for your concern; you’re the best friend a Techdirtist could ask for.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:4

Too late, Matty B. You were already on the record with justifying CSAM possession/distribution. Going back on it now just looks like a cover-your-ass move. That’s bad.

…oh, wait, you’re the guy who decided to troll this site by taking the name of the guy who once tried to justify CSAM possession/distribution! Yeah, that’s it, you’re that guy.

And that’s worse.

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Matthew N. "The GOAT" Bennett (profile) says:

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Look, Steve, I need you to understand that this gambit to link me to a random anonymous commenter that you’ve been trying for nigh on 3 years hasn’t worked. I appreciate that my plowing of your mother has strained our relationship but you’ve got to learn to stop trying to push this particular boulder up this hill. If you’re going to spend your 40s getting into internet fights with Australians online you could at least be funnier.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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The link is in your display name and username, my dude. Even if you’re not the Matthew M. Bennett whose presence here has been unwanted since before he declared he could justify possessing CSAM, you still took his name to be an edgelord troll. That’s worse than being him because you’ve seen what he’s been doing and tried your best to emulate him. You have no sincerity and no real character to speak of; at least the “real” Matty B has the guts to express his true feelings (hence his CSAM justification). You’re not the real you. You’re a facsimile of a shitposter⁠—a worse copy of an already bad person⁠—and your inability to be sincere about who you are and what you believe in makes everything you say all the more suspect. For example: That bit where you try to distance yourself from Matty B’s justification for CSAM possession doesn’t come off as anything but a cover-your-ass move, and that’s all it’s ever going to be so long as you keep roleplaying as a troll on this site.

I’m not funny. I’m not particularly bright, either. But at least I have the balls to put my actual government-ass name on my comments and express myself with sincerity. All you’re going to do is intentionally misinterpret the Rule of Goats again, brag about the sex you’re not having with my mother again, or find some other ridiculous bullshit to use as a cover for being unable to do what I do on a (far too) regular basis around here. You’re a troll cosplaying as another troll, that’s all you’re ever going to be, and that would be hilarious if it weren’t so motherfucking pathetic.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:4 How do you traffic a goat?

“The Techdirtist values his ability to goon to videos produced by the sex trafficking industry above all else.”

It’s weird you would out yourself like that. But no one ever accused you of being smart.

JMT (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:4

This comment serves as permanent record of my statement. Feel free to link it to others in case of confusion.

No, I think I’ll put more weight on the fact that you keep using this user name and assume the worst…

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Matthew N. "The GOAT" Bennett (profile) says:

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I’m sorry your weird attempts to frame me as a sex criminal are failing. If it makes you feel better it won’t help and you’ll continue to lose.

Who even are you btw? You don’t have the clout that Stone does to be making comments like this. Get more active and maybe I’ll consider you worthy of my time.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:6 Between the kiddie porn and the goat fucking how do you find the time to be this stupid bro?

“I’m sorry your weird attempts to frame me as a sex criminal are failing.”

If you don’t like it maybe you should have mned yourself after a kiddie porn enthusiast.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:2 Keep on fucking that goat bro!

Goddamn son. You are fucking stupid. STS has no need to sockpuppet. And I like clowning on egotistical dipshits who are proudly and loudly wrong about virtually everything.

And yet somehow you’re the only one here can’t tell us apart.

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Matthew N. "The GOAT" Bennett (profile) says:

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I remember I had a stint of a couple of weeks here, where I’d say this in response to everyone and they got really really mad, as if it’s a valid TRUTH NUKE when in the hands of Techdirtists but not me. I showed people a mirror and they hated what they saw.

BTW if you disagree with this, every accusation is a confession, so you’re actually agreeing with me by disagreeing. You are all secretly labor party voters by even looking at this comment and forming thoughts in your head.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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I showed people a mirror and they hated what they saw.

They didn’t hate the mirror.

They hated the troll-cosplaying dipshit holding it.

You chose to become a troll here. You chose to use a variation of the name of a well-known troll⁠—one who, lest we forget, tried to justify possessing and distributing CSAM. Those choices were yours and yours alone; blaming others for their reaction to your choices and your actions is akin to a rapist blaming his victim for “dressing like a slut”. (And this is where your shitty “I plowed ur mum, square off” joke comes in.) If you didn’t want to be treated like a troll, you shouldn’t have chosen to be a troll cosplaying as another troll, because that choice was yours to make and now it’s your problem to bear.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:2

If you don’t like Stephen, then don’t emulate his tactic of assuming multiple individuals are one person, including named users, so he can satisfy his parasocial obsession with Elon Musk or whoever being the only person calling him out on his shit.

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Matthew N. "The GOAT" Bennett (profile) says:

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Speak of the devil, look what Cushing just published:

https://www.techdirt.com/2025/01/27/federal-court-fbis-backdoor-searches-of-section-702-collections-violate-the-4th-amendment/

The federal government calling Section 702 collections unconstitutional, the opposite verdict of PCLOB. In my culture, this is what we refer to as a TRVTH NVKE.

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Bloof (profile) says:

The courts will block it and he’ll scream for court reform to remove ‘biased judges’ while his Project 2025 fuelled lackeys look for other ways to do the same thing. He doesn’t care about the long term consequences, he knows whatever happens he’ll be out of office by the time the poop really hits the fans… and whatever Democrat follows him will likely be out or a lame duck in four years for not fixing everything fast enough.

Anonymous Coward says:

I specifically doubt that the EU will effectively ban US internet companies by noting that the US government can demand access to EU users on those platforms.

Reason is I doubt Trump would let PCLOB continue with 1 member, he can fill them with 3 Republicans & 2 Democrats.

Anonymous Coward says:

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I think if he’s actually going to do anything to keep it, it’ll be filling it with 3 repubs, whatever the hell Fetterman is now, and a copy of the Art of the Deal with groucho glasses taped to it.

Anonymous Coward says:

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“I think if he’s actually going to do anything to keep it, it’ll be filling it with 3 repubs, whatever the hell Fetterman is now, and a copy of the Art of the Deal with groucho glasses taped to it.”

A inanimate object doesn’t count.
Not sure Trump would want to put Fetterman in, since I’d rather keep him in senate.
3 Repubs & 2 Democrats might work, though

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:3

Homo Sapiens aren’t animals? News to me. Was that another EO, like the one that accidentally declared us all females because they don’t know shit about embryology?

Anonymous Coward says:

So, yeah, for all of Zuckerberg sucking up to Trump, it may lead to losing EU users on Facebook, Instagram and WhatsApp. What good is self-removing your own spine to suck up to an ignorant authoritarian, when that authoritarian’s bull in a china shop approach to governing might just wipe out one of your largest markets?

Hmmm. I wonder if we could force zuckerberg’s face to be on the menu. Maybe trick, I mean persuade, people that “zuckerber is too woke, and hasn’t kiss enough rings” or something. /s

Anonymous Coward says:

So pretty much the only organization that oversees the institutions that Republicans complain about when the data collection is turned on them gets gutted.

Makes sense.

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Hogger Dogger says:

Delicious!

“The suspense is killing me… I hope it lasts..”

I hope DJT does it to himself finally. I fucking hate this guy. He’s not my president.. he’s just a sad unloved bastard.

Anonymous Coward says:

Why resign?

I understand that it’s a U.S. civil service tradition for people to resign when asked by the government. But Trump’s never been one to follow such traditions, so why should the employees? Can’t they stay, and if fired, collect severance pay at least?

(It’s not like being fired by Trump will make someone look bad when trying to get another job. I’d put it right on my resume.)

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Matthew M Bennett says:

what a rich fantasy

EU is trying to regulate speech worldwide anyway. It is our duty as Americans not to let them.

But go aheah, cry more about how you’re literally wrong about everything.

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