Missouri Nukes Its ‘Tell Us If You’ve Seen A Trans’ Reporting Form After It’s Swarmed With ‘Bee Movie’ Scripts

from the so...-this-is-the-internet.-have-you-met? dept

Who doesn’t love the wisdom of the crowds? Hey, it’s a great thing if you’re seeking comment from the oft-disrespected “stakeholders” known as the people who pay your salaries. Comment periods for proposed regulation ensures a healthy mix of intelligent commentary and unhinged partisanship. You know, like pretty much any congressional hearing.

On the other hand, opening up your thing for public comment via the internet tends to ensure those with an agenda will try to take control of the thing. Ask pretty much any corporate entity that saw millions of internet users and still decided the best way to take the pulse of the connected was to trot out a perfunctory CAPTCHA and crowdsurf their way into increased profitability.

Behold the wreckage: The PepsiCo crowdsourcing that suggested the next Mountain Dew product should align itself with one of dozens of porn fetishes (“Gushing Granny”) or things possibly even less tasteful (“MTN JEW,” “Methamphetagreen”). Maybe the brains in the Missouri capital thought the same internet that voted to send Taylor Swift to perform a concert at a school for the deaf and rapper Pitbull to a remote Alaskan Walmart to plug his latest album would take this complaint box for bigots seriously and not do turn its sanctimonious suggestion box into another toy for trolls.

I’m sure they’ve learned something from this. Unfortunately, the lesson learned won’t be “acceptance” or “don’t write laws specifically to make people you don’t like miserable.” What they will learn is that you just can’t leave a complaint box open on the internet, as Morgan Sung reports for TechCrunch:

A Missouri government tip site for submitting complaints and concerns about gender-affirming care is down after people flooded it with fanfiction, rambling anecdotes and the “Bee Movie” script.

The Missouri Attorney General’s office launched an online form for “Transgender Center Concerns” in late March, inviting those who’ve witnessed “troubling practices” at clinics that provide gender-affirming care to submit tips. The site didn’t ask users to name patients or healthcare providers, but encouraged users to complete the form “in as much detail as possible.”

But after days of TikTok and Twitter users spamming the site with gibberish, the tip line has been removed from the Missouri government site entirely. Instead of the online form, the link to the tip line now says that the page no longer exists.

This is a far, far better thing than electing the creator of 4chan (and then, a bit later, North Korean dictator Kim Jong-Un) “Man of the Year” in a Times poll. This is people acting in concert to prevent assholes from pushing through the sort of garbage the Missouri legislature clearly wants to see: bigoted fanfic detailing how a trans person somehow upended the lives of themselves or their loved ones. This is the kind of filler a shitbox like this deserves.

Why “Bee Movie?” It’s been a bountiful source for memes for pretty much its entire existence. And, as such, its existence as a powerful meme cannot be entirely explained. Attempting to wrap your minds around the contours of the unexpected internet-wide embrace of an digitally animated film starring ultra-smug comedian Jerry Seinfeld is like trying to explain why some pinball machines are great, while others just kind of suck. This blend of subjective and objective cannot be accurately described. It is because it is. It works or it doesn’t.

This one does work. The “Bee Movie” script is a well-known word bomb that trolls (well-meaning or otherwise) deploy to clog up the “please fill in the box” machinations of people who don’t understand how the internet actually works. The disruption of this malicious attempt to cater to the worst residents of Missouri has been derailed by a script that suggests, without irony, it’s possible for a bee to sustain a romantic relationship with a human being.

However impossible it may be to explain why the “Bee Movie” script was the preferred text bomb lobbed into Missouri’s gaping ass(hat) hole, it’s still more explicable than the response from the state’s top prosecutor:

Madeline Sieren, press secretary for Missouri Attorney General Andrew Bailey, blamed “far left activists” for breaking the site. She said the tip line is down temporarily.

“Rather than standing on their supposed science to back up their facts, they’re resorting to trying to hack our system to silence victims of the exact network we’re attempting to expose,” Sieren told TechCrunch in an email.

LOL.

The “far left” didn’t do this. Everyone who isn’t as hateful as you and your supposedly-hetero government bedfellows did this. People who understand the nastiness of the effort did this. The far left may have been involved, but there are plenty of people close to the political center who likely felt compelled to treat a state-designed garbage receptacle as, well, a receptacle for garbage.

Furthermore, you’re also an idiot for claiming this was people “trying to hack” the system. You (the state you’re speaking for) created a form inviting people to respond. People responded. Just because they weren’t the people you wanted to respond doesn’t mean this was a “hacking” attempt meant to “silence” whoever the fuck you wanted this “I don’t like non-binary sexuality” complaint form to appeal to.

Face the facts, Missouri. You were trolled. And you should have seen it coming. That you didn’t clearly demonstrates the shortsightedness of this anti-trans hate, as well as the pinhole pig eyes of the legislators who are allowed to foster hatred and blow tax dollars on incredibly stupid snitch lines they think might give them the political ammo to codify bigotry.

There are plenty of authoritarian, ultra-religious countries willing to applaud garbage views like this, Madeline Sieren and everyone you speak for. If you don’t like your shittiness being mocked and disrupted here in the United States, you’re always welcome to leave.

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Thad (profile) says:

“Rather than standing on their supposed science to back up their facts, they’re resorting to trying to hack our system to silence victims of the exact network we’re attempting to expose,” Sieren told TechCrunch in an email.

I remember when “hack” used to have a narrower meaning than “bad thing with a computer.”

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PaulT (profile) says:

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The irony here being that the “bad thing with a computer” being done was “set up a witch hunt to try and attack a vulnerable group of people, which has the bonus effect of allowing people to snitch on their innocent neighbours”, and not “shut down the new Stasi before it has a chance to get to work”, but maybe that’s just me.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Here’s a story from back in 2005, where an online Q&A session with Michael Moore was similarly derailed, that time by right-wingers:

https://www.campaignlive.com/article/us-right-wingers-hack-c4-fahrenheit-9-11-webchat/233977

This is to point out that Cushing’s take on the story, that it’s righteous warriors fighting hate, is stupid. Any open internet public response site is going to be met by a deluge of hackers, pranksters, haters, and bots. Thinking that it’s wonderful when they seem to be in your side and awful when they seem to be in the opposition just shows a lack of understanding. Given a sufficiently large audience, there will always be people who find joy in disruption and discovering vulnerabilities and exploiting them.

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David says:

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No, BLM protests were anarchism, while the January 6 insurrection was an attempt at rescuing democracy (where “democracy” is defined as “rule by a self-entitled mob beholden to a propagandist”, also known as idolatric fascism).

Not the same thing. One is bad, the other is good. For those people.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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Cushing’s take on the story, that it’s righteous warriors fighting hate, is stupid.

You’re comparing a mass trolling incident that shut down a fascist reporting system intended for enabling the government-sanctioned targeting of trans people to a mass trolling incident that shut down a Q&A session with a filmmaker. The discrepancy between those two incidents is clear; your inability to see said discrepancy is not my problem.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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First of all, that’s called “penetration testing” and people tend to get paid for them.

Secondly, as you’ve been told, Michael Moore’s interview getting invaded by violent insurrectionists and traitors to America is different from this.

Thirdly, 4chan does it all the time and was on the damn article. At least, until Stormfront took over /pol/.

So please, go fuck yourself and get the Fuck out of 4chan.

That One Guy (profile) says:

Oh those poor persecuted anti-science bigots...

‘That’s not fair! Here we had a trans flagging system in place so we could hunt them down and those mean liberals(because anything that goes wrong must be because of liberals) made fun of us and filled the system with information other than where to find doctors who weren’t treating trans patients as monsters!’

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Proud Missourian says:

No such thing as good trans

Who writes this disgusting garbage. Reading this profanity laden word salad makes me picture a 20 something year old virgin in his parents basement who is barely getting by in college only because he supports the immoral woke narrative, smoking dabs and playing video games yelling at his mom to bring him his munchies because he’s in the middle of an important game. This is typical far left mental disorder rhetoric based on zero facts by an uneducated opinion piece writer. No mention of the $7 billion Anheuser Busch lost in sales because the majority of the population doesn’t approve of the LGBTQP lifestyle they tried to push in a Bud Light commercial that got the marketing director fired. The far left doesn’t live in reality so we have to keep reminding them who the adults in charge are. No matter how hard you push that lifestyle it will never be accepted by the vast majority of our country as long as you keep trying to force the narrative on normal people.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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The far left doesn’t live in reality so we have to keep reminding them who the adults in charge are.

Let’s say a trans person living in a state passing anti-trans laws were to commit suicide because they felt like they had no other options left. Would you consider their death a tragedy or a blessing?

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Anonymous Coward says:

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The mental illness that leads to being trans is part and parcel of the mental illness that leads the same people to being suicidal. Those people can never be anything but the sex of their bodies, and people convincing them of the contrary, to the extent that they have themselves mutilated to be something they can never be, isn’t going to make them less suicidal. Your emotional blackmail to try to guilt people into asserting impossible lies will just make it worse for them. Even after the mutilation, they will continue to wonder why their bodies still don’t feel right. The proper treatment for trans people is psychological therapy to get them to accept that the body they have is the only body they ever will have, and that not shredding it is better.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Hyman.

Gender dysphoria may lead to suicide, but that’s because treasonous filth like you keep forcing them to bottle up
their problems instead of gettimg the help they need.

What you suggest will endanger them, oh wait, that’s what your NAZI ass wants.

In that case, please fuck off as soon as possible, lest I do something I might regret.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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yea, that’s not how it works.

The idea of gender is shaped by the lens of society. How do we know? There are records from various cultures that showed they had more than 2 genders. We even have records of trans people from cultures long gone. Transgender and non-binary are not new ideas.

Gender is more than just the physical sex. It’s the ideas and expectations we attach to them, consciously or unconsciously. It takes a long time for those expectations to shift, if they do at all.

For example while the idea is slowly fading, we still have people that expect a husband to be the breadwinner of a family while the wife cares for the home and kids. And yet we still have people that get upset when an unmarried couple lives together, when the wife is not looking after the house, or when the couple intentionally remains child-free.

Hell, we have religious sects where women are still forbidden/discouraged from wearing pants.

Knowing all that, is it any surprise we have people wanting out of the social boxes people have placed them in? So they try to swap the box people see. We have scientific studies showing that gender affirming care reduces suicidal thoughts. That category includes a lot more than surgery/hormone therapy.

As for why there is surgery or hormone therapy in the first place? People have strongly connected the physical sex with the idea of the box.

You know what makes those suicidal thoughts worse? Keeping them in the box they want to leave. As for you’re ‘therapy’ solution… That sound a lot like a form of conversion therapy, which doesn’t really work and tends to make things worse.

Samuel Abram (profile) says:

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The idea of gender is shaped by the lens of society. How do we know? There are records from various cultures that showed they had more than 2 genders. We even have records of trans people from cultures long gone. Transgender and non-binary are not new ideas.

A lot of indigenous North American tribes and nations have the concept of people being ‘two-spirit” as well as a matriarchy and matrilineality (we Jews are matrilineal as well). Transdom is not a new con concept to these people but—to the contrary—a tradition.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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This is arguably false.
The old tradition that some people have bizarre relation to the other sex is indeed not new. That made them special, sometimes in a bad, sometimes in not so bad way (hello, you god-linked shaman).
What is new are the “I should be treated as a member of the other SEX, enter ladies bathroom despite having a male body for instance” or “I have all right to try to turn my own body or my child’s body into the other sex, problem solved” mindsets. As a jew should know, this is just abomination according to Torah. And every biologist will tell you “sorry, in the current state of medical science, we cannot actually change people sex, just destroy your genitals to make a fake other”. That some shrink would ever tell patients that such operation is even possible and would solve their issues just blows mind

Anonymous Coward says:

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It is one of the prescribed treatments for gender dysphoria, Hyman.

It is also the last resort and usually decided on, ideally, at the advice of a team of doctors who have tried every other fucking treatment in the DSMV.

Don’t use your fucking Jewish ethnicity only when it benefits you. It only makes you even MORE disgusting than you already are.

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Previous Anonymous Coward says:

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I don’t see the point of getting so rude, Maidel.

Pretty sure those “teams of doctors” didn’t even try the trick that the gay community used so successfully:
“I am what I am, and what I am need no excuses, nor treatment”.
What they do is nothing but “conversion therapy” on steroids. Just far, far, more expensive and destructive (conversion therapy is brainwashing, those teams do that AND destroy the body as well). With the same (lack of) success, AFAIK. So they mush be considered the same kind of filthy charlatans profiteering on distress they even create in the first place, as other conversion therapists.

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bhull242 (profile) says:

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The mental illness that leads to being trans is part and parcel of the mental illness that leads the same people to being suicidal.

  1. Not all transgender people have gender dysphoria.
  2. This is false. Much of the depression that leads to suicide has been linked to mistreatment by others, like bullying, harassment, misgendering, etc. The depression from gender dysphoria itself is alleviated by gender-affirming care, which may or may not include puberty blockers, hormone replacement therapy, mastectomies, and/or gender reassignment surgery.

Those people can never be anything but the sex of their bodies, […]

No one says otherwise.

[…] and people convincing them of the contrary, […]

A population of 0.

[…] to the extent that they have themselves mutilated to be something they can never be, […]

Which is no worse cosmetic surgery ethically speaking.

[…] isn’t going to make them less suicidal.

It would if people would stop harassing them for being trans.

Your emotional blackmail to try to guilt people into asserting impossible lies […]

You have yet to demonstrate the existence of even one claim actually made by transgender people or pro-trans activists that is an impossible lie. You’ve only pointed to claims that no one is making or which are either true, uncertain, or a matter of opinion.

[…] will just make it worse for them.

Prove it.

Even after the mutilation, they will continue to wonder why their bodies still don’t feel right.

[citation needed]

The proper treatment for trans people is psychological therapy to get them to accept that the body they have is the only body they ever will have, […]

A treatment that demonstrably does not work and often makes them even worse off.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Tell me you’re an aging nobody who worked all his life and has nothing to show for it, apart from contempt for everyone else, without explicitly admitting it.

And here’s a protip – no one really gives a shit about Bud Light and Anheiser-Busch’s profits. I stopped drinking that piss after college when I could afford decent beer. (Which probably explains why so many of you still drink it.)

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bhull242 (profile) says:

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Who writes this disgusting garbage.

According to the byline, it’s Tim Cushing. Seriously, learn to read. (And write, for that matter. You also forgot to end a question in a question mark.)

Reading this profanity laden word salad […]

Really? There’s not much profanity in there.

No mention of the $7 billion Anheuser Busch lost in sales because the majority of the population doesn’t approve of the LGBTQP lifestyle they tried to push in a Bud Light commercial that got the marketing director fired.

Because it’s irrelevant. Also, it wasn’t a “majority of the population”; at most, it was a majority of the people who drink Bud Light, if that. And the commercial didn’t push any lifestyle; it merely featured someone who just happened to be transgender. It’s not at all obvious from watching the ad that she is trans, and the ad never mentions transgender lifestyles at all. Like, at least the Campbell’s Soup ad featured a gay couple eating soup with their kid while explicitly stating that they were married to each other, so the LGBTQ reference is fairly explicit. In this case, you’d have to look up the person featured in the ad to even know that they’re trans in the first place! But even if it did, that wouldn’t be pushing a particular lifestyle. They wouldn’t be telling you to be trans or anything.

But while we’re on the subject, how exactly is this consistent with being anti-cancel culture? Seems to me that Bud Light (particularly its marketing director) was canceled for their speech. I fail to see a material difference here.

And as for the “P” there, pedophilia has no connection to the LGBTQ movement, which exclusively cover sexual/romantic orientation with relation to gender and/or sex, gender identity, and non-standard sex. Pedophilia, bestiality, and polyamory are unrelated.

The far left doesn’t live in reality so we have to keep reminding them who the adults in charge are.

And how, exactly, are transgender people “not living in reality”? Also, this isn’t even far-left. It’s actually a moderate position to allow transgender people to live their lives.

No matter how hard you push that lifestyle […]

Pushing for tolerance of a given lifestyle is not pushing the lifestyle itself. Virtually no one is pushing people to be transgender (partly because that would be crossing a line, but also because most pro-trans people recognize that gender identity isn’t a choice).

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Proud Missourian

It shouldn’t be because of who you elect, that’s for sure.

Reading this profanity laden word salad makes me picture a 20 something year old virgin in his parents basement who is barely getting by in college only because he supports the immoral woke narrative, smoking dabs and playing video games yelling at his mom to bring him his munchies because he’s in the middle of an important game.

Have you ever heard the term ‘Dunning-Kreuger?’ If not, I’d suggest looking it up, given your choice of referring to something as a ‘word salad’ using a 58-word sentence.

It’s not a big deal, but it points to a lacking in self-awareness.

No mention of the $7 billion Anheuser Busch lost in sales because the majority of the population doesn’t approve of the LGBTQP lifestyle they tried to push in a Bud Light commercial that got the marketing director fired.

I’d speculate because it’s irrelevant. The article is about how your technically inept people in government refer to using their poorly designed web pages as ‘hacking.’

But since you wanted to bring it up, I’d suggest that you pass it on to your equally ignorant peers that boycotting the only beer they can spell is not a sustainable strategy. In addition, it can negatively affect those people in Missouri who work there, as you’ve already pointed out. The rest of their breweries are dispersed roughly evenly between red & blue states, so the odds there are no better than a coin toss.

So choose your battles carefully, as they have real financial consequences that appear to be geographically close to you. Hopefully, you and the other merry morons will boycott yourselves right out of a job, while the rest of us shake our heads and make our ‘unsurprised faces.’ Believe me when I say that it never gets old to see you people do something stupid that we know will backfire, and then see it backfire in a spectacular garbage-fire-like explosion.

But hey, at least those trans people will know how you feel.

conspiracy theorist says:

full success

Why are those bureaucrats so stupid?
Or are they?

I mean, for the line to work to begin with, would had required that some of the very small number of people having contact with “victims” complained. Sorry, not gonna happen. Real victims just go to a lawyer or some activist ring easily found on internet; and professionals are working willingly in the field and not going to put their job at risk. Did those Missourian expected that?
Pretty sure they just wanted
1) to show their constituent that they really tried (checked),
2) Stuff to blame people they don’t like. Mission accomplished: “far left activists so bad, use unfair tactic, break down gov legit effort, want to cover up bad things and silence victims, bad, filthy leftists, booh”.
3) put the blame of their failure on others (damned leftists) (checked)

So I would call that a 100% success
But I am just a conspiracy theorist, of course.

LostInLoDOS (profile) says:

Real evidence

“But after days of TikTok and Twitter users spamming the site with gibberish,”

The only factual take away is what I’ve long said:
The vast majority of (anti)social media user are left over turds to be flushed.
I have yet to see a single cultural benefit from web 3. Not one. Instead we get not a bunch of trolls in a block forum pushed off to the sandbox, we get a mass of crybaby nonsense from both sides of politics screaming me me me. And in the brief moments they aren’t screaming me, the are screaming look at me.

Anyone who would Intentionally misfill a form online for a “good time” is a piece of crap.

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