Dr. Oz: Vaccine Mandates Are Bad. I’ll Just Beg People To Get Vaccinated Instead.

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I want to say a little something upfront in this post, so that there is no misunderstanding. While I’ve spent a great deal of time outlining why I think RFK Jr. and his cadre of buffoons at HHS and its child agencies are horrible for America and her people’s health, I do understand some of the perspective from people who pushback on vaccinations some of the time. One of those areas are vaccine mandates. Bodily autonomy is and ought to be a very real thing. A government installing mandates for what can and can’t be done with one’s own body is something that needs to be treated with a ton of sensitivity and I can understand why vaccine mandates in general might run afoul of the autonomy concept. Of course, it’s also why the government shouldn’t be in the business of telling women what to do with their bodies, or blanket outlawing things like euthanasia, but the point is I get it.

But there are times when we, as a society, do make some legal demands of the citizenry when it comes to their own physical beings for the betterment of the whole. Not all drugs are federally legal because there are some drugs that, if they were to proliferate, would cause enormous harm to the public that surrounds those individuals. The government does regulate to some extent what appears in our food and medicine, never bothering to ask the public their opinion on the matter. And there are some diseases so horrible that we’ve built some level of a mandate around vaccination, traditionally, especially in exchange for participation in publicly funded schools and the like.

Dr. Oz, television personality turned Administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, has vocally opposed vaccine mandates in general terms. When Florida dropped the requirement for vaccines for public school children, Oz cheered them on.

In an interview on “The Story with Martha MacCallum,” the Fox News host asked Oz whether he agrees with officials who want to make Florida the first state in the nation to end childhood vaccine requirements and whether Oz would “recommend the same thing to your patients.”

“I would definitely not have mandates for vaccinations,” the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services administrator told MacCallum. “This is a decision that a physician and a patient should be making together,” he continued. “The parents love their kids more than anybody else could love that kid, so why not let the parents play an active role in this?”

The MMR vaccine was one of those required for Florida schools. So, Oz is remarkably clear in the quote above. The government should not be mandating vaccines. Further, the government shouldn’t really have direct input into whether people are getting vaccines or not. That decision should be made strictly by the patient and the doctor who has that patient directly in front of them, or their parents.

Those comments from Oz were made in September of 2025. Fast forward to the present, with a measles outbreak that is completely off the rails in America, and the good doctor is singing a much different tune.

So, Oz is now reduced to begging people to get vaccinated for something that, for decades, everyone routinely got vaccinated for.

“Take the vaccine, please. We have a solution for our problem,” he said. “Not all illnesses are equally dangerous and not all people are equally susceptible to those illnesses,” he hedged. “But measles is one you should get your vaccine.”

To be clear, he’s still not advocating for any sort of mandate. Which is unfortunate, at least when it comes to targeted mandates for public schools and that sort of thing. But in lieu of any actual public policy to combat measles in America, he’s reduced to a combination of begging the public to get vaccinated and telling the general public that a measles shot is definitely one they should be getting.

And on that he’s right. But he’s also talking out of both sides of his mouth. Oz isn’t these people’s doctor. These school children aren’t all sitting directly in front of him. So the same person who advocated for a personalized approach to vaccines is now begging the public to take the measles vaccine from Washington D. C.

That inconsistency is among the many reasons it’s difficult to know just how seriously to take Oz. And consistency is pretty damned key when it comes to government messaging on public health policy. That, in addition to trust, is everything here. And when Oz jumps onto a CNN broadcast to claim that this government, including RFK Jr., have been at the forefront of advocating for the measles vaccine, any trust that is there is torpedoed pretty quickly.

CNN anchor Dana Bash was left in disbelief as one of the president’s top health goons claimed the MAGA administration was a top advocate for vaccines. Addressing the record outbreak of measles in the U.S., particularly in South Carolina, Bash asked Dr. Mehmet Oz on State of the Union Sunday: “Is this a consequence of the administration undermining support for advocacy for measles and other vaccines?” “I don’t believe so,” the Trump-appointed Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services Administrator responded. He then said, “We’ve advocated for measles vaccines all along. Secretary Kennedy has been at the very front of this.”

Absolute nonsense. Yes, Kennedy has said to get the measles vaccine. He’s also said maybe everyone should just get measles instead. One of his deputies has hand-waved the outbreak away as being no big deal. Kennedy has advocated for alternative treatments, rather than vaccination.

The government is all over the place on this, in other words. As is Oz himself, in some respects. To sit here in the midst of the worst measles outbreak in decades, beg people to do the one thing that will make this all go away, and then claim that this government has been on the forefront of vaccine advocacy is simply silly.

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Pixelation says:

“…so why not let the parents play an active role in this?”

Sure, they want an active role? Here’s their role, they can choose not to have kids. Or, they can choose to have kids and we have rules in place that they have to follow for the good of society. There’s your active role Oz. You’re a fucking creep. Go peddle your bullshit somewhere else, you asshole.

Anonymous Coward says:

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Also, many parents are, by and large, fairly ignorant especially as regards medicine. Now some folks might be offended by that, to which I say, “you’re a dumbass”. Ignorance simply means you don’t know a thing, it’s not an insult, it’s simply an observation. So parents do, and SHOULD, rely on subject matter experts to help them (the parents) do the right thing. So having a rule that your kid can’t go to school unless they get their vaccines is a VERY GOOD THING. You still get to make a choice, but it pushes you quite hard towards the right choice.

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TKnarr (profile) says:

I’d simplify things even further: bodily autonomy applies to more than just your body. Everybody else has bodily autonomy too, and you don’t have the right to expose them to high contagious diseases without their consent. Vaccine mandates simply codify the common understanding that nobody reasonable would be willing to strictly quarantine themselves just because they didn’t want to get vaccinated.

Sadiq (profile) says:

The Importance of Consistent Leadership in Times of Crisis

Great post — and beyond the specific debate on vaccine policy, this really underscores a broader issue that affects many professional fields: consistency in leadership communication and decision-making during a crisis.

Whether in public health, aviation, logistics, or corporate governance, stakeholders place their trust in institutions that communicate clearly and align policy with action. When messaging shifts without transparent rationale, it can erode confidence and make operational recovery much harder — something we stress in leadership and risk management training for highly regulated industries.

For example, in aviation and related professional sectors, training frameworks emphasize structured communication and aligned decision-making as core competencies because inconsistency in these areas can have ripple effects across entire systems.

Consistent, transparent leadership isn’t just good policy — it’s essential for maintaining public trust.

Anonymous Coward says:

A vaccine mandate is not about bodily autonomy. It’s about whether you have the right to infect others with dangerous diseases.

Same with mask mandates during Covid, or when having unprotected sex. When you refuse to take preventative measures, you’re free to live your life alone. But stay away from others. You don’t have a right to put them in danger.

Anonymous Coward says:

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Wait few days for him to say he’s defending the freedom for everybody to be unvaccinated even if it bothers vaccinated people.
It was the same thing with smoking, where smokers in the 90s were mostly saying that they are free to smoke in every public place and people annoyed with the smoke will just have to get out. Until we’ve learnt about passive smoking, and how children were badly affected by it. Then things slowly changed.

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TKnarr (profile) says:

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I had a notional way to respond to anti-maskers during COVID:

AM: some stupid comment about masks

Me: You heard about that outbreak of hybrid Ebola-Marburg-, right? begins to take off mask

AM: You can’t seriously be worried about getting infected by something from some third-world country? This is the USA.

Me: Oh, no, the mask isn’t to protect me from it. It’s to protect you from catching it from me.

AM: PANICS!!!

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Anonymous Coward says:

I find it hilarious that people here still believe in the lie that was COVID after six years of economic destruction, six years of many of the vaccinated being crippled or dying after, and after the media and so-called experts admit that the vaccines caused damage.

It’s people like you who convinced me that reaching out to the masses is a waste of time. Because even after hearing it from the horse’s mouth, you’ll always be stupid, and unfortunately the only cure for stupidity is death.

RFK is another hollow white-hat. Pretending to fight for the people while his interests lie in a different group. But I think we have different reasons for that.

But other than that, have a nice early death.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re:

About 60 million people die every year, and it’s been 5 years since vaccines appeared. That’s a lot of people who’ve died after getting the vaccine (which was only 90-some percent effective anyway).

I’m sure the initial poster meant people dying because of the vaccine, but since they never wrote that, the above citation is basically what you asked for.

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Man on the Outset says:

Covidiots Deserve Death

I find it hilarious that people here still believe in the lie that was COVID after six years of economic destruction, six years of many of the vaccinated being crippled or dying after, and after the media and so-called experts admit that the vaccines caused damage.

It’s people like you who convinced me that reaching out to the masses is a waste of time. Because even after hearing it from the horse’s mouth, you’ll always be stupid, and unfortunately the only cure for stupidity is death.

RFK is another hollow white-hat. Pretending to fight for the people while his interests lie in a different group. But I think we have different reasons for that.

But other than that, have a nice early death.

Anonymous Coward says:

Not every parent

“The parents love their kids more than anybody else could love that kid, so why not let the parents play an active role in this?”

It’s a cute line but is blind to the fact that this isn’t always the case. We need some kind of safeguard for the situations when the parents explicitly do *not* have best interests at heart.

Also this ignores that the kid has rights to bodily autonomy as well. Yes they are limited in some ways, but what solution does he have for scenarios where a teenager wants to get vaccinated, the PCP is in favor of the vaccination, but the parents say no?

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Maybe if people didn’t go out of their way to make their lives a living hell, trans people wouldn’t have that “rage” to take out on others? Did that possibility ever cross your mind? Well, obviously not, going by the rest of your post. But while we’re at it, if you’re that concerned about mass shooting incidents, there’s several demographics you could arguably be a lot more concerned about.

But you’re not, and you’re also not doing a good job of hiding that fact.

Steven (profile) says:

Not a bodily autonomy issue.

Vaccinations in children is not a bodily autonomy issue. We are not deferring to the will of the children. It is a public safety and parental rights issue.

Does a parent have the right to endanger the long term health, and possibly life, of their child in opposition to well established medical standards?

The answer should be no. This is really no different than child abuse.

settsu (profile) says:

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While only supported by broad anecdotal observations, I’d argue that there seems like a notable correlation between how children are viewed in relation to parents and society with the rates of childhood vaccinations, and even things like public health systems. In other words, I think there’s a type of spectrum where one side might be described as the view that children are inherent members of society while the parents are considered loving stewards, in contrast on the other end of that spectrum is the view that children are some form of “property”/extension of the parents and that parental autonomy shall not be impinged upon. Which is why, for example, in the United States children are basically SOL for the most part depending on where they end up being cared for and if their caretakers are poor or ignorant, well, tough luck kid. It’s deeply unsettling and not even logically consistent from a sociological perspective, but that’s never stopped the U.S. from sacrificing kids to avoid a relatively small but vocal and, unfortunately, powerful contingent from insisting children’s lives are worth sacrificing to maintain some mythical idea of “freedom”.

Anonymous Coward says:

Brain Autonomy

The most overlooked autonomy issue is 100,000 Americans being poisoned (diabetes and infertility causing antipsychotics, anticonvulsants for patients who never had epilepsy) and electrocuted (ECT). In boring wards because we cannot read your blog. I was denied the Coronavirus vaccine for 3 weeks by a racist psychiatrist.

You don’t need to self-harm or be violent to qualify for a lifetime of at home injections assisted outpatient treatment. Being false arrested without a jury trial twice in 4 years because your republican neighbor dislikes your public protest. Or you are homeless, which is a “grave disability.” (they will False Claims Act defraud Medicaid $1,000/day instead of normal shelter). In Texas denying you are crazy is an arrestable offense.

Anonymous Coward says:

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i was going to make this comment, but now i get to put it here:

Mandates don’t mean armed goon squads (those live on the other side of reality, anyway) swing by and forcibly inject you. It means that you can be denied access to some things if you choose not to vaccinate. So deal with the results of you choice – don’t force others to deal with them.

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