Donald Trump Immediately Returns To Threatening Disney Over Jimmy Kimmel’s Speech

from the censorial-asshat dept

We’ve repeated over and over again that anyone who believes Donald Trump’s claims of supporting free speech is either a brainwashed cultist or the dumbest person alive. And now, in his doddering old age, he’s becoming ever more brazen and belligerent in his attacks on speech. He’s not even trying to put forth a veneer of legitimacy anymore.

Last week, his FCC chair, Brendan Carr, went on a MAGA influencer’s podcast and clearly and obviously threatened both Disney and local ABC affiliates to punish Jimmy Kimmel for his speech. The affiliates (many of whom are trying to get FCC approval for consolidation mergers) got the message and pre-empted their showing of Kimmel’s show, leading Disney to temporarily suspend the show. After the public started canceling their Disney+ accounts in droves, Disney flipped its position and allowed Kimmel to come back last night (with a bang).

And, now facing bipartisan pressure for acting like a censorial bitch, Brendan Carr is trying to doublespeak his way out of what he said last week, insisting that of course he wasn’t abusing his power to punish Kimmel’s speech, a claim that I’m pretty sure exactly no one (including Brendan Carr) believes.

But, even if we wanted to take Carr at his word, his boss, Donald Trump, is not helping matters. Just as Kimmel was about to go back on the air, he posted this to his Unsocial Liars Truth Social site:

That is… [checks notes… checks notes again because surely that can’t be… well… okay] the President of these United States saying:

I can’t believe ABC Fake News gave Jimmy Kimmel his job back. The White House was told by ABC that his Show was cancelled! Something happened between then and now because his audience is GONE, and his “talent” was never there. Why would they want someone back who does so poorly, who’s not funny, and who puts the Network in jeopardy by playing 99% positive Democrat GARBAGE. He is yet another arm of the DNC and, to the best of my knowledge, that would be a major Illegal Campaign Contribution. I think we’re going to test ABC out on this. Let’s see how we do. Last time I went after them, they gave me $16 Million Dollars. This one sounds even more lucrative. A true bunch of losers! Let Jimmy Kimmel rot in his bad Ratings.

I mean, what do you even say anymore other than the man is the most censorial, anti-free speech President to hold the office in at least a century and probably more?

First, he’s admitting that the White House talked to Disney about Kimmel’s show, which is, if I remember correctly from all the MAGA whining during the Murthy v. Missouri case, absolutely verboten under the First Amendment.

Second, if it’s true that he had no audience and no talent, then… why would the FCC and Trump need to weigh in at all? It’s obvious he does have an audience and talent given that he has over 20 million subscribers on YouTube and the video from last night is over 15 million views in less than a day as I write this and will surely pass 20 million before too long.

Third, more seriously, the claim that Trump is going to sue over something wholly unrelated to what Carr was threatening an investigation over shows that this has nothing to do with any particular comment or with Kimmel’s ratings or popularity. It is, clearly, our most thin-skinned, can’t-take-a-joke, whiny, insecure, pathetic excuse of a President demanding that the guy making fun of him be silenced.

It’s not worth going into the details but, no, a late night TV host comic making jokes about the President is not, in any way, an “illegal campaign contribution.” That’s not how any of this works.

As for the $16 million payout for the “last time I went after them” that should reveal what bullshit all this is. Trump filed a very, very questionable defamation lawsuit against ABC over a minor technical misstatement by George Stephanopoulos, which the company caved on and decided to pay a settlement fee on (just like a few other media and tech companies in the last year) in the hopes of staying in Trump’s good graces.

But as we’ve said over and over again, when you appease bullies, they don’t go away. You just are asking for more bullying and more demands. Disney/ABC should have known that from the start, but here we are. Trump is basically demanding a payout as punishment because Jimmy Kimmel makes fun of him.

If Disney’s Bob Iger had any principles or any backbone at all, he’d do exactly what John Oliver told him to do earlier this week. Go back to the White House with “Fuck you, make me.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

Last time I went after them, they gave me $16 Million Dollars. This one sounds even more lucrative.

People always quote a single part of the following poem, but for once, I’m going to quote Rudyard Kipling’s “Danegeld” in its entirety:

It is always a temptation to an armed and agile nation,
To call upon a neighbour and to say:—
“We invaded you last night—we are quite prepared to fight,
Unless you pay us cash to go away.”

And that is called asking for Dane-geld,
And the people who ask it explain
That you’ve only to pay ’em the Dane-geld
And then you’ll get rid of the Dane!

It is always a temptation to a rich and lazy nation,
To puff and look important and to say:—
“Though we know we should defeat you, we have not the time to meet you.
We will therefore pay you cash to go away.”

And that is called paying the Dane-geld;
But we’ve proved it again and again,
That if once you have paid him the Dane-geld
You never get rid of the Dane.

It is wrong to put temptation in the path of any nation,
For fear they should succumb and go astray,
So when you are requested to pay up or be molested,
You will find it better policy to say:—

“We never pay any one Dane-geld,
No matter how trifling the cost,
For the end of that game is oppression and shame,
And the nation that plays it is lost!”

David says:

Talking about backbones is cheap

Bob Iger has no legal obligation to his backbone. He does have a legal obligation to Disney’s shareholders to act in their best monetary interest. Pissing Trump off is against their monetary interest. Just look at the ongoing price tag of Harvard’s “Fuck you, make me”.

The backbone that is actually required is that of the American consumers. When they say “Fuck you, make me” to Eiger’s “enjoy how I kiss Trump’s ass”, then it becomes his legal obligation to stop kissing Trump’s ass in order to save Disney’s bottom line.

Iger is legally required to reflect the lack of backbone of the average Disney consumer. That is an even worse position than being representative of the average Harvard patron’s backbone.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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Bob Iger has no legal obligation to his backbone. He does have a legal obligation to Disney’s shareholders to act in their best monetary interest. Pissing Trump off is against their monetary interest.

Kimmel’s suspension got a fair number of conservative/right-leaning media figures⁠—including Joe Rogan, of all people!⁠—pissed off at Trump and the FCC for censoring Kimmel, and plenty of people cancelled their subscriptions to Disney Plus and Hulu, and that’s on top of Disney Adults™ saying they would (and potentially did) cancel their trips to Disney’s theme parks.

If I was a Disney shareholder, I’d be pissed as hell that Disney bent the knee to a would-be king at the cost of both its integrity and a shitload of money. That calculus is part of the reason Kimmel is back on the air: Disney had more to lose by pissing off the general public than it did by pissing off the enemies of free speech.

That One Guy (profile) says:

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Bob Iger has no legal obligation to his backbone. He does have a legal obligation to Disney’s shareholders to act in their best monetary interest. Pissing Trump off is against their monetary interest. Just look at the ongoing price tag of Harvard’s “Fuck you, make me”.

And how’s that appeasement been working out for them?

Last time I went after them, they gave me $16 Million Dollars. This one sounds even more lucrative. A true bunch of losers!

They caved once and paid out sixteen million in protection money, they caved again and suffered a stadium-sized PR black-eye over Kimmel with people dropping subscriptions in droves, and now Trump is openly talking about extorting them again for even more money.

Standing up to Trump absolutely is in the company’s best financial interest because it turns out that appeasement is a losing strategy and just means paying out again, and again, and again in perpetuity.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re:

And how’s that appeasement been working out for them?

It’s gotten their shareholders to take steps towards filing a lawsuit.

A group of Disney shareholders is exercising its right to demand materials related to the company’s decision last week to suspend Jimmy Kimmel‘s late night show, a precursor to a potential lawsuit.

In a letter to Disney, the American Federation of Teachers and Reporters Without Borders said there’s “credible basis to suspect” that the board breached its fiduciary duty to investors by prioritizing “improper political and affiliate considerations.”

Damned if they do, damned if they don’t. In that situation, might as well do the right thing and tell Trump, “Fuck you. Make me.”

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Raphael (profile) says:

Re: Trump and his fans are in systematic denial about the extent of their opposition

I’d say part of the reason why Trump and people like him talk about Kimmel failing low ratings and a failing show – aside from their usual bullshitting habits – is that right-wingers in general have, for a long time, systematically deluded themselves about how many or how few real opponents they have.

They seem to seriously believe that the opposition to them consists only of a few elite/establishments types, a somewhat larger number of people paid by these elite/establishments types, and another somewhat larger group of people duped by these elite/establishments types, and that everyone else supports them and their politics.

Therefore, the idea that someone like Jimmy Kimmel might really have a successful show makes them have strong Does Not Compute reactions.

On an only somewhat related matter, that’s probably also part of the reason why they keep going on and on about “election fraud”. Yes, partly it’s their usual lying-for-political-gain thing, but partly it’s because they can’t imagine that there might really be enough people opposed to them and their politics for them to lose any election fair and square.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re:

My mother is very firmly in the fox news bubble. This last weekend she was going on about election fraud and how mail on ballots are a significant threat to election integrity. When I mentioned that they want to strip overseas voters of their right to vote l, she couldn’t believe that it could possibly be because overseas voters overwhelmingly vote democratic and this would favor Republicans. General learning point is that one we’ll ingrained misconception can be used to justify a ton of objectively bad actions.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Kimmel shouldn’t be on the air. He won’t be soon for purely economic reasons.

And the FCC DOES have the legal ability to regulate speech that is carried over the airways. It simply does, by law, and the 1A doesn’t apply cuz companies agree to it when they license the spectrum. I don’t especially like it, but it’s true.

And Kimmel lied, and never apologized for lying.

Meanwhile you keep on ignoring (and lying about) that even Google admitted that the Biden administration pressured them to censor users, who had not violated their TOS, which is very much illegal unlike the FCC.

And you just lie and downplay what happened with youtube and all the other social media channels, constantly.

You’re a hypocrite, Mike. And yeah, you filter replies.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

Re:

And yeah, you filter replies.

I get held up by the moderation/spam filters on an occasional basis, but I don’t whine about it because my comments tend to go through after a relatively brief wait. If you’re mad about being caught by the spamfilters, maybe consider why you’re being flagged enough to get filtered.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

Re:

That’s one of the reasons there was such a blowup over Kimmel’s suspension in the first place: His jokes about MAGA World’s race to paint the shooter as a leftist when evidence suggests he was a right-winger were so anodyne that they mostly passed without anyone noticing until Trump got pissy about it and Carr made his mob boss threat to Disney/ABC. Kimmel didn’t even say anything about Charlie Kirk, at least in the sense that he was mocking Kirk’s death.

Trump believed Disney/ABC bending the knee once for $16mil meant he could bully them into giving in to his demands again. He found out that Disney has higher concerns that keeping that crybully happy. He’s mad because he thought he could take out the late night TV hosts who mock him and now he’s learning that no, he’s not going to be doing that without a bunch of people putting up a fight. Even Ted Cruz was on Kimmel’s side, and Cruz kissed Trump’s ass even after Trump mocked Cruz’s wife. That’s how you know Trump overstepped: Kimmel’s enemies were willing to defend him.

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Thad (profile) says:

Re: Re:

I think at least some of them have realized this whole thousand-year-reich thing probably isn’t going to work out for them and odds are pretty good there’s going to be another Democrat in office sooner rather than later and maaaaaaybe this whole unlimited executive power thing isn’t such a good idea after all.

Tanner Andrews (profile) says:

Re: Re: correct

Trump believed Disney/ABC bending the knee once for $16mil meant he could bully them into giving in to his demands again.

Yes, and that seems an accurate assessment. Following some bullying, they did give in to his demands again.

Evidently it was not entirely permanent. Kimmel is back on some affilliate stations. However, it did work, and perhaps even provided a needed distraction from the Epstein files.

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Thad (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:

I don’t think it worked at all. Disney suffered a massive PR backlash and backtracked within a few days; they’re not likely to take that risk again the next time Carr decides to threaten them, and other networks might think twice about it too. There’s really no metric by which this was a victory for Trump.

The Epstein files are important. So is the invasion of Chicago. So is the politicization of the DOJ. So are the fascistic threats against free speech and corporate America’s capitulation to same. All of these things are important; calling any one of them a “distraction” from the others trivializes it.

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Pixelation says:

The emperor has lost his mind

Trump is angry because he is going senile.

“President Donald Trump said Wednesday that he was the victim of “three very sinister events” during his time at the United Nations on Tuesday and that the Secret Service will be looking into the issues.”

And, here’s what happens when people start becoming senile…

“Senility, often associated with dementia, can lead to symptoms like paranoia, where individuals may feel suspicious or fearful of others without justification. This occurs due to cognitive decline affecting their perception and understanding of reality.”

The first “sinister” event? The escalator stopped working for a short time.

Stop the presses, Trump’s escalator stopped working. It’s massive sabotage by the Evil Democrats!!!! Damned woke elevators!!! Biden did it!!!

The second “sinister” event? His teleprompter when dark. Oh NOes!!! What will he ever do? Oh, wait, the secret service was in charge of that. Obama did it, I’m sure!!!

The third “sinister” event? “Third, Trump said that the sound was off at the U.N. as he spoke and that people could only hear his remarks if they had interpreters speaking into earpieces.”

Well, to be fair, the third one was probably intentional…

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

Re:

“I believe in coincidences. Coincidences happen every day. But I don’t trust coincidences.” (Elim Garak, Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, S2E5 “Cardassians”)

To give a single iota of fairness to Trump, any one of the events he mentioned would be unfortunate, but all three occuring on the same day as Trump’s visit to the UN, and all three events appearing to have affected only Trump, suggests that maybe he has a point about sabotage. Once is happenstance; twice is coincidence; thrice is a pattern.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re:

it was a pattern. a pattern of incompetence by a person who has surrounded himself with sycophants instead of competent people.

it’s only going to get worse for him, his admin, and the country because he is in cognitive decline. He has to rely on others for more and more cover to hide his lies and lack of ability to lead.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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There is no hypocrisy. You get flagged because of your reputation as a cop apologist who will excuse any malfeasance by the police, up to and including the murder of an unarmed man. Your comment still showed up and it will still be readable after it gets flagged; that isn’t censorship, no matter how much you want to be a victim.

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davec (profile) says:

Re: Re: You are not the community!

There is no hypocrisy. You get flagged because of your reputation as a cop apologist who will excuse any malfeasance by the police, up to and including the murder of an unarmed man. Your comment still showed up and it will still be readable after it gets flagged; that isn’t censorship, no matter how much you want to be a victim.

Charley Kirk was killed because someone didn’t like his opinion. Jimmy Kimmel was taken off the air because someone didn’t like what he said. I tried to humanize police officers like my son, daughter, son-in-law and daughter-in-law and you didn’t like that, so you did your best to make sure those posts weren’t read. I’m sure mine’s not the only opinion you’ve tried to suppress. I see the hypocrisy and intolerance in the fact that this blog allows YOU to flag or hide comments that YOU don’t like. Maybe this blog would be more popular if it actually allowed unfettered free speech.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:

I tried to humanize police officers like my son, daughter, son-in-law and daughter-in-law and you didn’t like that, so you did your best to make sure those posts weren’t read.

Three things.

  1. Nobody here cares about your family; stop using them as shields against criticism.
  2. Regular commenters here have seen enough copaganda that they don’t need to see more from people like you.
  3. Your posts getting flagged by the community is not the same thing as being targeted by the government for your speech or being killed for your speech, so trying to act like a martyr won’t work for you here.

I’m sure mine’s not the only opinion you’ve tried to suppress.

Your opinion isn’t suppressed, so much as it’s been flagged to tell people “the community here thinks this post isn’t worth reading”. Everyone has the option to click a link and read it anyway. No one is obligated to be your audience, and you lack the power needed to force people into being your audience/taking you seriously. All of that applies to everyone here⁠—including me.

I see the hypocrisy and intolerance in the fact that this blog allows YOU to flag or hide comments that YOU don’t like.

You can do the same thing. One flag, even from one of the most prolific commenters on this site, isn’t going to hide your post any more than one flag from you is going to hide my posts. A post being hidden requires multiple flags, and I only have but one flag to give, so acting like I’m the only person who decides if a post gets hidden is giving me far too much credit.

Maybe this blog would be more popular if it actually allowed unfettered free speech.

It kind of already does. How many blogs can you name that still allow people to comment anonymously without an account of any kind? Even comments that get flagged still have to actually show up in the comments section to get flagged, and their being flagged doesn’t actually delete them. You can post your copaganda all you want here; if you get flagged, maybe try doing a better job of reading the room instead of whining about how nobody takes you seriously.

AmySox (profile) says:

Unfortunately, the Orange Felon does have something to hold over Disney’s head: the pending acquisition of the NFL Network by ESPN:

The NFL announced Tuesday night that it has entered into a nonbinding agreement with ESPN. Under the terms, ESPN will acquire NFL Network, NFL Fantasy and the rights to distribute the RedZone channel to cable and satellite operators and the league will get a 10% equity stake in ESPN.

The league and ESPN still have to negotiate a final agreement and get approval from NFL owners. The agreement will also have to undergo regulatory approvals. (my emphasis)

And there it is. Just like Paramount/CBS wanting to be bought by Skydance, and we all know how that turned out. I’m not the only one to point this out:

According to Ari Fleischer, a former White House Press Secretary under President George W. Bush, this situation might be one that President Donald Trump sees as “political catnip,” in his words.

“Given his interest in the NFL, and his history of using media mergers for leverage, it’s hard to see him not playing around with this,” Fleischer told Front Office Sports, according to the Post. “I doubt this will be a straightforward commercial transaction.”

Just like Frito Pendejo, Disney likes money.

Thad (profile) says:

Re:

Disney likes money and after they suspended Kimmel they lost the kind of money that makes even a company their size nervous.

You’re probably right that they’ll be looking for a chance to make a deal with Trump so they can get their merger approved. But it won’t be this. At least not before Kimmel’s contract is up like Paramount did with Colbert.

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