Cowardly Disney Caves To Brendan Carr’s Bogus Censorial Threats, Pulling Jimmy Kimmel

from the wasn't-jawboning-bad? dept

There are multiple ways into this story, but almost all of the reporting on what’s happened claims that Disney pulled talk show host Jimmy Kimmel’s show “indefinitely” over comments that Kimmel made about Charlie Kirk. But that leads most people to assume that Kimmel said something unkind about Kirk or in some way celebrated his death. But he did not. You can see the segment here (assuming Disney doesn’t pull it):

Here’s the full transcript of the relevant section, which is just a few seconds:

We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it.

He also made fun of the clip of Trump being asked how he was grieving, to which Trump responded:

I think very good, and by the way you can see over there all the trucks, they just started construction of the new ballroom for the White House which is something they’ve been trying to get for 150 years and it’s gonna be a beauty.

They also showed a clip of Trump on Fox News being asked about “revenge” and somehow twisting that to the false claim that California has no ballot boxes, and another clip about Kash Patel trying to claim he was doing a good job with the investigation into Kirk’s killing.

Literally nothing in there is celebrating Kirk’s death or speaking ill of Kirk in any way.

But the thing that the MAGA world is really desperate to avoid is having anyone suggest that Robinson might not have been indoctrinated by “leftists.” They are so desperate to blame the attack on “the left,” (despite little evidence to support that) that they decided to attack Kimmel for even pointing out that MAGA was bending over backwards to deny that the shooter was “one of them.”

In the wake of the shooting, both ends of the political spectrum rushed (in an unhealthy way) to look for evidence that the shooter was “radicalized” by extremists at the other end of the political spectrum. This often included doctored evidence. But what evidence was obtained suggested that neither story was accurate and (as is so often the case with lone shooters) his agenda had no deep political component to it, and was just deeply steeped in online meme culture. Robinson himself admitted in messages later released that he basically put meme text on bullet casings for the joke of it all.

In context, Kimmel’s statements were quite benign.

But that didn’t stop FCC boss Brendan Carr—who spent years pretending to be a “First Amendment warrior”—from going on yet another MAGA podcast and claiming that Disney could “lose its license” over this. Carr claimed that there was a “concerted effort to lie” about the shooter, which is just a total misrepresentation of reality.

There were, as in any chaotic breaking news story, attempts to understand what little information is revealed, and which people try to fit into the larger story. In this case, some people interpreted information that was coming out in one way, in some cases, they interpreted it a different way. And yes, confirmation bias and preconceived notions could have played into that, but that’s how breaking news always works and it’s 100% protected by the First Amendment.

Carr then suggests that the FCC can use the “public interest” obligation of public spectrum (TV and radio broadcasters, but not internet or cable TV) to threaten to pull licenses for airing Kimmel’s segment. This is beyond nonsense. As FIRE (the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression) noted in a statement:

The FCC has no authority to control what a late night TV host can say, and the First Amendment protects Americans’ right to speculate on current events even if those speculations later turn out to be incorrect. Subjecting broadcasters to regulatory liability when anyone on their network gets something wrong would turn the FCC into an arbiter of truth and cast an intolerable chill over the airwaves.

Carr’s threat was pretty explicit:

I mean, look, we can do this the easy way or the hard way. These companies can find ways to change conduct to take action on Kimmel or there’s going to be additional work for the FCC ahead.

That’s a pretty direct threat to intermediaries to punish Kimmel for obviously First Amendment protected speech.

Just last year, in a 9-0 ruling in NRA v. Vullo, the Supreme Court called out how this kind of thing is a clear violation of the First Amendment.

A government official can share her views freely and criticize particular beliefs, and she can do so forcefully in the hopes of persuading others to follow her lead. In doing so, she can rely on the merits and force of her ideas, the strength of her convictions, and her ability to inspire others. What she cannot do, however, is use the power of the State to punish or suppress disfavored expression….

And, more explicitly:

The Court explained that the First Amendment prohibits government officials from relying on the “threat of invoking legal sanctions and other means of coercion . . . to achieve the suppression” of disfavored speech.

While Carr initially appeared to threaten Disney/ABC’s “licenses,” he knows full well that (other than a small number of owned and operated affiliates) ABC doesn’t actually have most of the licenses. Instead, it’s the local affiliates that do. But Carr directly targeted them with a threat:

There’s action we can take on licensed broadcasters. And, frankly, it’s really sort of past time that a lot of these licensed broadcasters themselves push back on Comcast or Disney and say, listen, we are going to preempt, we’re not going to run Kimmel any more until you straighten this out because we licensed broadcasters are running the possibility of fines or license revocation from the FCC if we continue to run content that ends up being a pattern of news distortion.

This is a not so subtle threat to affiliates to drop Kimmel or face fines or have their licenses pulled.

And, not surprisingly, this threat worked. Hours later, Nexstar, the largest owner of local TV stations in the US which has been sucking up to Trump to try to buy out even more TV stations, announced that it would not run Kimmel’s show on their stations, and shortly after that Disney announced that it was pulling Kimmel’s show “indefinitely.”

Nexstar’s statement was utter nonsense:

“Mr. Kimmel’s comments about the death of Mr. Kirk are offensive and insensitive at a critical time in our national political discourse,” said Andrew Alford, president of Nexstar’s broadcasting division.

Except he didn’t say anything offensive or insensitive. Literally the only thing he did was point out that Trump was fairly insensitive.

So here we have a government official coercing private parties to punish or suppress disfavored speech. This is literally what the (again, unanimous) Supreme Court, just months ago, said was a clear First Amendment violation:

… a government official cannot do indirectly what she is barred from doing directly: A government official cannot coerce a private party to punish or suppress disfavored speech on her behalf

Yet that is exactly what Brendan Carr just did today. Indeed, this case presents an even clearer First Amendment violation than Vullo in multiple ways. Where Vullo required the Court to analyze implicit threats, Carr’s threat was explicit: “We can do this the easy way or the hard way.” Where Vullo involved regulatory pressure on financial intermediaries over business practices, this directly targets editorial speech—the core of First Amendment protection. And where Vullo’s coercive effect had to be inferred, here we have immediate, documented capitulation by both Nexstar and Disney.

Even if you want to claim that (laughably) Carr’s threats weren’t that explicit, in Vullo the court stated directly that the “threat need not be explicit.” But again, it was pretty explicit.

Also in Vullo, the Court finds that the reaction of the intermediaries can “confirm the communications’ coercive nature.” The fact that Nexstar immediately did what Carr suggested they should do again reinforces what everyone knows is happening here.

And even if you were to argue (ridiculously, laughably) that something Kimmel did actually does violate the law in some way that allows Carr and the FCC to take action, the Supreme Court insisted that the underlying legality of the targeted actions does not matter to the question of whether or not the coercive threats targeted speech:

Moreover, the conceded illegality of the NRA-endorsed insurance programs does not insulate Vullo from First Amendment scrutiny under the Bantam Books framework. Indeed, the commission in that case targeted the distribution and display of material that, in its view, violated the State’s obscenity laws. Nothing in that case turned on the distributor’s compliance with state law. On the contrary, Bantam Books held that the commission violated the First Amendment by invoking legal sanctions to suppress disfavored publications, some of which may or may not contain protected speech (i.e., nonobscene material). … Here, too, although Vullo can pursue violations of state insurance law, she cannot do so in order to punish or suppress the NRA’s protected expression.

But that’s what Carr clearly did here. He threatened action in order to punish or suppress (incredibly benign) speech.

To be clear, even if one believed Kimmel’s speculation about the shooter’s motivations was somehow problematic, that wouldn’t justify Carr’s response. The Supreme Court has repeatedly held that the remedy for “bad” speech is more speech, not government censorship. The FCC’s “public interest” obligations have never been interpreted to give commissioners the power to police late-night comedy commentary on breaking news.

It’s no secret that Jimmy Kimmel has long been a thorn in Donald Trump’s side. His job is to mock and satirize the news, and he has been making fun of Donald Trump for years.

And yet, will we see the “comedy is legal again” and “free speech absolutists” speak out against Carr’s actions here? I doubt it. Will we see the people who insisted in the past that they can mock and joke about their political opponents without punishment speak up here? Seems unlikely.

We warned that Brendan Carr was eagerly looking to become America’s top censor, and he has succeeded in that. But never let it be said that he is a defender of free speech. He is the exact opposite. He has violated his oath to defend the Constitution and he has infringed upon the First Amendment rights of Americans.

Disney’s decision to cave here is stupid, but predictable. Carr leveraged these bogus threats to get Nexstar to damage Disney, and so Disney caved. It likely decided it doesn’t need another one of these stupid culture war battles that the MAGA crowd has thrust its way over and over again over the past decade.

But this capitulation sets a dangerous precedent. If government officials can successfully threaten broadcast licenses over protected commentary, every late-night host, news anchor, and talk radio personality becomes subject to regulatory retaliation for speech that displeases those in power. Today it’s Kimmel’s mild commentary about political spin; tomorrow it could be any criticism of government officials.

The speed with which Disney folded—within hours of the threat—shows how effectively this censorship-by-proxy operates. No formal proceedings, no due process, no appeals. Just a government official making threats and corporations immediately complying to avoid regulatory harassment. This is precisely the “heckler’s veto by government proxy” that the First Amendment was designed to prevent.

As the Supreme Court ruling closed with in the Vullo case, while government officials can express their opinions, there are limits to their ability to coerce:

Yet where, as here, a government official makes coercive threats in a private meeting behind closed doors, the “ballot box” is an especially poor check on that official’s authority. Ultimately, the critical takeaway is that the First Amendment prohibits government officials from wielding their power selectively to punish or suppress speech, directly or (as alleged here) through private intermediaries.

There was a time and a place where Brendan Carr agreed with that sentiment, but apparently it’s not when he’s in power and when the speech criticizes his boss.

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Paul B says:

Re: Rock and a Hard Place

The difficulty is that Trump is a true Bully, with the power of the DOJ and FCC and many other 3 letter agency’s. People are clearly just trying to dodge his vision at this point, when noticed, they find it safer and more cost effective to give him whatever he wants instead of having some long drawn out engagement.

Trump is different from other political people, he will go after you for any slight till your bankrupt or he is. Problem is he has unlimited money now. So he can effectively sue anyone he wants into bankruptcy. At this point its a cost benefit analysis with an infinity on the bad outcome.

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Killercool (profile) says:

Re:

Never believe that [MAGA] are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The [MAGA] have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.
-Sartre, edited

Anonymous Coward says:

Sitting here listening to Emily Jashinsky, long critical of cancel culture, going full woke over this – deeply offended by Kimmel’s comments, pleased about him being cancelled and playing down the administration’s pressure as a kind of “rebalancing”.

Just another depressing chapter in the age old story of professed principles being sacrificed on the altar of political opportunism. “They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.”

Arianity (profile) says:

As FIRE (the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression) noted in a statement:

Glad they had a second to step away from their banh mi to issue a statement. Hope they weren’t too inconvenienced.

He has violated his oath to defend the Constitution and he has infringed upon the First Amendment rights of Americans.

Feels like there needs to be a discussion among free speech advocates for how we can build on the First Amendment in a way that can be more resilient to bad faith government action. There’s no magic wand against authoritarianism, but it feels like we can do a bit better?

Arianity (profile) says:

Re: Re:

I don’t think the goal is when they have all 3 branches. You’re right that you can’t do anything then. Rather, it’s asking what we can do before and after they lose control.

The reason it comes to mind is that it seems likely that this administration is going to lose in 2026/2028, without being able to consolidate power. It would probably be a good thing that if that happens, as part of the clean up process people like Brendan Carr have to worry about actual consequences like going to jail for the rest of his life.

It is not a magical panacea (especially if they plan on never leaving power), but it’s not nothing, either.

Thad (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:

In 2021, the Democrats had a chance to abolish the filibuster, expand SCOTUS, and grant statehood to DC and Puerto Rico.

They did none of those things.

That was after Trump tried to have them all murdered.

I think they still have a path to victory in 2026 and 2028. What I don’t have is a lot of hope that they will have any more gumption than they did in 2021.

There are good Democrats in Congress. But I don’t think there are enough, and I’m not sure if there will be enough even in the case of blue waves in 2026 and 2028. (The Republicans are certainly trying to prevent that. They can’t win on the strength of their positions, but they can win on voter disenfranchisement encouraged by the Supreme Court.)

Thad (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:2

Which is, again, not to be a doomer or tell people nothing we do matters. We need to do everything we can to slow, and eventually stop and then reverse, the damage this administration is doing.

I worry about what will happen even if the Democrats win. But we still need to do our very best to make sure that happens. The worst Democrat is still better than the best Republican. Believe me, I know; I’ve voted for Kyrsten Sinema four times.

Thad (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:2

(Incidentally I replied to this post to try to clarify that I’m not trying to be a doomer here and I still think we need to do everything we can and never give up the fight even if I’m frequently discouraged by what we’re up against. The reply is waiting on moderator approval, possibly because I replied to myself almost immediately after posting, but that’s the gist of it.)

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Arianity (profile) says:

Re: Re:

Doesn’t mean it isn’t worth doing, though. Just need to be realistic about the impact, and the need to follow it up with other actions.

And to be fair, depending on how many people follow, it may very well be big enough Disney is forced to take note. The biggest issue with most consumer facing companies is getting enough users to actually coordinate. Companies bank that people won’t.

Thad (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:

I’m not anti-boycott, and I won’t say boycotts don’t make a difference.

But you’ve got it exactly right when you mention the need to follow up with other actions.

Doctorow had a post recently titled Wallet voting that underlines that the emphasis on consumer boycotts is one of those strategies the oligarchs themselves have pushed because they know that beating the “individual responsibility” drum means a resistance that’s less effective than collective strategies. (See also: the ’90s “recycle, reuse, reduce” push. That stuff is good, and you should do it! But it’s a message that the corporate polluters pushed because it took the pressure off them to change the way they do things. And that’s without getting into plastic recycling, which is basically a scam invented by the petroleum industry.)

Boycotts can work, under the right circumstances. But it’s not just about canceling your Hulu subscription. (Good on you if you want to do that, though.) Join a group and coordinate your actions. Part of why the Target boycott was so effective was that it was organized by civil rights activists. And part of it was who Target’s customer base is (or was).

David says:

The real question is

will the voters tire of Trump faster than he is tilting the table? The public opinion can turn, but such a “turn” is an avalanche effect where the masses are being taken along with the turning of the opinion of the masses. When people are not even allowed to convey anti-Trump feelings, you never reach critical mass, and a turn of opinion would require every single person to turn against public opinion and act on it.

The Founders have an excuse for not taking the lessons into account from the explosion of European nationalism and fascism culminating in WW2: those lessons were yet to come.

Modern Americans do not. And even then, the Founders were serious about the First Amendment. Modern Americans are not.

This does not bode well.

David says:

The problem was not that Kimmel's take on Kirk

The problem was that Kimmel ran the tape on Trump not really being interested in Kirk’s assassination before the MAGA establishment decided to turn it into political fodder for attacking their opponents, just like the assassination of Ernst vom Rath was used by the Nazis to justify the November Pogroms and special levies on Jews, just like the Republicans are now planning to levy RICO charges against George Soros for … something? in that context.

Pointing out that Trump actually cares shit about Kirk’s assassination just is not helpful in that regard. After all, Republican lawmakers don’t want to have to wait for the next victim of the political climate they create before exploiting it for their purposes.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

Re:

Tell me, when has the administration of a Democrat president ever openly threatened to investigate and punish a cable television network for mocking said administration or its ideological allies? Because what you’re conveniently forgetting here is that in the bit that got Kimmel yanked, he didn’t actually say anything about Charlie Kirk⁠—he criticized Trump, his administration, and its MAGA allies for exploiting Kirk’s death.

I bet you tell other people you’re for free speech. Well, here’s a chance for you to prove it. Are you for or against the government threatening to investigate and punish a media company because of one its employees mocked the government?

David says:

Re: What do you mean, not disrespectful?

Kimmel even gave extensive screen time to an apathetic piece of human garbage who tried exploiting the news slot about Kirk’s assassination by promoting an entirely unrelated pet project of his.

Airing the bullshit of a well-known emotionally dead political agitator and demonizer is certainly not respectful in the aftermath of an assassination. Especially not if that lowlife is the president of the United States.

Anonymous Coward says:

I m not saying Kimmel is wrong to comment but trump maga is going after anyone who makes negative comments
about anything to do kirks death .I think maga is now going in the direction of attacking free speech knowing it’s easy to put pressure on media
corporations to cancel tv shows
or sack presenters . At this point
Tv writers need to think there will be a backlash if they make comments about trump that are more than bad jokes

Tramp says:

Full Text of Trump FCC Order

Jimmy Kimmel, Jimmy Kimmel
If he doesn’t scare you, no evil thing will
To see him is to take a sudden chill
Jimmy, Jimmy
He’s like a spider waiting for the kill
Look out for Jimmy Kimmel

[Bridge]
At first you think Jimmy is a devil
But after time has worn away the shock
You come to realize you’ve seen his kind of eyes
Watching you from underneath a rock!

[Verse 2]
This vampire bat, this inhuman beast
He ought to be locked up and never released
The world was such a wholesome place until
Jimmy, Jimmy Kimmel

Thank you for your attention to this matter!

Anonymous Coward says:

Except he didn’t say anything offensive or insensitive.

That’s purely a matter of opinion. It’s pretty weaselly to talk about things being “offensive” in the first place, as if that’s a fact. The usual meaning is “I was offended by this” or “I think someone could be offended by it”—and those are quite different statements.

“Insensitive” is even more vague. What if the person making a so-described comment actually carefully considered the implications and decided to make it anyway? Presumably, that would be “sensitive”, despite being indistinguishable to others.

Strawb (profile) says:

What annoys me greatly about this farce is that so many people apparently can’t distinguish between someone saying “They’ve been trying to paint this person as anything other than part of their group” and “This person is part of their group”.
It’s completely factual that the right has been trying desperately to claim that there’s no way the shooter is right-wing, and Kimmel saying that doesn’t mean that he’s saying the shooter is right-wing.

Nobody knows for certain whether the shooter is right-wing or left-wing, and Kimmel never claimed to know.

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That One Guy (profile) says:

The true snowflakes snow their colors again

The kicker of course is that the ones being most disrespectful of Kirk are the people exploiting his death for their own ends, screaming about how anything less than total support and agreement that the shooter was definitely left-leaning are terrible people who need to be silenced.

In life he may have been a terrible person, but he was still a person.

In death he’s been turned into a nothing more than a weapon, stripped of any humanity and his own words butchered by those that care only for what his death can do for them.

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