Trump Threatens, Then Sues Murdoch Over Epstein Story Using Tactics His Supporters Used To Call A ‘Massive Attack on Free Speech’

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Donald Trump admitted yesterday that he called Rupert Murdoch and demanded the Wall Street Journal kill its story about Trump’s relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. When Murdoch couldn’t deliver, Trump promised to sue the media company and gleefully looked forward to putting Murdoch on the witness stand. Update: Just as this story was going live, it was reported that he had, in fact, sued. We’ll write about the details of the lawsuit as they become clear.

This is the exact type of behavior that Trump’s supporters spent years claiming represented “arguably the most massive attack against free speech in United States history” when they falsely accused the Biden administration of doing far less.

I understand that we live in an era of blatant hypocrisy where “it’s okay if a Republican does it” is the norm, but I wanted to call out how directly similar this scenario is.

For the past few years, we covered the Missouri v. Biden (later, Murthy v. Missouri) case through all its twists and turns. The underlying claim in the case from the states, and a few social media users who had their accounts restricted in some form or another, was that there was a huge First Amendment violation by the Biden administration because it had spoken to social media companies asking them about their policies regarding fighting disinformation on things around Covid.

The case was built on out-of-context communications and outright lies, but Trump-appointed Judge Terry Doughty ruled that the Biden administration asking social media companies to explain their editorial policies was “arguably the most massive attack against free speech in United States history.”

The Supreme Court dismissed the case for lack of standing, but the legal standard the Trump-supporting MAGA lawyers presented is crucial here. Louisiana Solicitor General Benjamin Aguinaga argued that any government “ask” to media companies about their editorial choices violates the First Amendment:

JUSTICE KAGAN: So, I mean, what about that? I mean, you know, take a — an example where — I mean, these platforms, they’re compilers of speech, and some part of the government, let’s call it part of the law enforcement arm of the government, says you might not realize it, but you are hosting a lot of terrorist speech, which is going to increase the chances that there’s going to be some terrible harm that’s going to take place, and we want to give you this information, we want to try to persuade you to take it down.

Are — are — the government can’t do that?

MR. AGUINAGA: The government can absolutely do that, Justice Kagan.

JUSTICE KAGAN: They’re taking —

MR. AGUINAGA: Terrorist activity, criminal —

JUSTICE KAGAN: — they’re — they’re asking them to take down the speech.

MR. AGUINAGA: Terrorist activity, criminal activity, that is not protected speech. Absolutely, the government can inform the — the

JUSTICE KAGAN: Well, that might — might be protected speech. I mean, terrorists engage in, you know, things that come under the First Amendment. I mean, let’s say they’re just recruiting people for their organizations.

MR. AGUINAGA: Your Honor, if it’s First Amendment speech, protected speech, then I think we’re in an entirely different world.

More directly, when Justice Kavanaugh asked about government officials telling media companies they should take down “factually erroneous information,” Aguinaga said that crosses the constitutional line:

JUSTICE KAVANAUGH: And one thing that I think I want to square up with you is if someone calls and — or contacts the social media company and says what you have there, this post, has factually erroneous information, so not a viewpoint that we disagree with, factually erroneous information, and the social media company says, we’ll take a look at that and — and you still think that’s significant encouragement that qualifies as coercion, if they take it down in response to concluding that it, in fact, is factually erroneous?

MR. AGUINAGA: No, Your Honor. If there’s no ask from the government, if the government’s just saying here’s our view of the statement —

JUSTICE KAVANAUGH: Okay. And we think it should be — it should be taken down, it’s up to you, but we think it should be taken down.

MR. AGUINAGA: I think that’s a harder case for me. I guess, you know, if you think it is a close case decide it under the First Amendment.

So by the legal standard Trump’s own lawyers established, any government request to suppress media coverage violates the First Amendment. Now let’s see how Trump himself measures up.

Yesterday, the Wall Street Journal published a story claiming that Trump and Epstein had a very close relationship, focusing on a supposed birthday card Trump allegedly created for Epstein. Trump’s response was his usual cry of “fake news!” about anything he dislikes but—more importantly—involves him admitting he had directly pressured Murdoch to kill the story:

If you can’t see the image, here’s the text of Trump’s rambling:

The Wall Street Journal, and Rupert Murdoch, personally, were warned directly by President Donald J. Trump that the supposed letter they printed by President Trump to Epstein was a FAKE and, if they print it, they will be sued. Mr. Murdoch stated that he would take care of it but, obviously, did not have the power to do so. The Editor of The Wall Street Journal, Emma Tucker, was told directly by Karoline Leavitt, and by President Trump, that the letter was a FAKE, but Emma Tucker didn’t want to hear that. Instead, they are going with a false, malicious, and defamatory story anyway. President Trump will be suing The Wall Street Journal, NewsCorp, and Mr. Murdoch, shortly. The Press has to learn to be truthful, and not rely on sources that probably don’t even exist. President Trump has already beaten George Stephanopoulos/ABC, 60 Minutes/CBS, and others, and looks forward to suing and holding accountable the once great Wall Street Journal. It has truly turned out to be a “Disgusting and Filthy Rag” and, writing defamatory lies like this, shows their desperation to remain relevant. If there were any truth at all on the Epstein Hoax, as it pertains to President Trump, this information would have been revealed by Comey, Brennan, Crooked Hillary, and other Radical Left Lunatics years ago. It certainly would not have sat in a file waiting for “TRUMP” to have won three Elections. This is yet another example of FAKE NEWS!

This isn’t just government pressure—it’s a sitting president threatening to weaponize the courts against media for editorial decisions over what he claims is “erroneous information.” By Trump’s own supporters’ legal standard, this is a textbook First Amendment violation. Perhaps the most massive attack against free speech in the history of the United States. (Update: as noted above, it’s now being reported that the lawsuit has been filed, which we’ll cover in a follow-up story).

He didn’t just ask them not to publish the thing, he told them he would sue them if they published and has now said he’s going to sue Murdoch’s “ass off.”

Compare this to what the Biden administration actually did: some officials sent less than polite emails to social media companies asking about their misinformation policies. No threats. No lawsuits. No demands for specific content removal. Yet Trump’s supporters called that “the most massive attack against free speech in United States history.”

Trump is doing exactly what the MAGA world spent years accusing Biden of doing, except with explicit threats and promised retaliation. And it’s crickets from the free speech warriors who spent four years screaming about government pressure on media.

The inevitable defense will be “but this was fake news, so of course he can do that.” But Biden officials also believed they were pointing to misinformation—and they never threatened personal lawsuits against media executives for editorial decisions.

Again, I get it. We judge the MAGA world on a curve. Everyone expects them to be authoritarian hypocritical censorial asshats, so it’s not news when they are.

We’ve normalized authoritarian behavior by expecting it from Trump, but this deserves attention. A sitting president threatening to sue media companies and their owners for editorial decisions isn’t just hypocrisy—it’s the kind of direct government coercion that actually violates the First Amendment.

And yes, part of the problem is that the media keeps capitulating every time Trump does this. CBS and ABC each paid millions of dollars to Trump over bogus lawsuits. So did Meta. This has only emboldened Trump. Media capitulation and kowtowing has taught Trump that he can bully and sue media companies to silence them. All of this is an actual First Amendment violating attack on speech.

The silence from Trump’s supposed free speech defenders says everything about how seriously they actually take the principles they claim to champion.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

Re: Re:

Trump’s “Also, I don’t draw pictures” seems to be a solid argument.

I know you’re being a little sarcastic here, but I’d like to treat this seriously for a second: If Trump wants to make that claim, he’ll have to explain why two pictures with his signature on them wound up being sold at an Ohio charity auction in 2004. Either he’s lying now about having drawn pictures in the past or he lied back then about drawing those pictures for that auction. The second option might be of some help in his defamation suit, but neither option will help with his credibility in a court of law.

Strawb (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:

AFAICT, that’s because they’re two different quotes.

“I never wrote a picture in my life” is a direct quote from an interview with WSJ he did on Tuesday.

“I don’t draw pictures” is from a post of his on Truth Social after WSJ published the article.

Both are shown in this video going through everything: https://youtu.be/vIKBbLPPEZQ?si=ERV5PEK1grOeN8UB

David says:

Come on

The silence from Trump’s supposed free speech defenders says everything about how seriously they actually take the principles they claim to champion.

When is the last time you saw a soccer player complain to the umpire that he overlooked a foul from that player’s team?

In court speak, it is not as much a matter of fairness but of standing. If you are not the damaged party, you don’t get to ask for remedy.

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Thad (profile) says:

Re:

Because they got what they wanted out of Trump, Murdoch’s been trying to crowbar the GOP base away from him for years (remember the months he spent pushing DeSantis, Ramaswamy, and Haley as viable primary challengers?), and the Epstein story is the first real opportunity he’s ever had to do it.

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Thad (profile) says:

Re: Re:

(It bears adding that Rupert isn’t in charge anymore, Lachlan is, but I think they both feel pretty similarly about Trump: he’s a useful idiot but he’s too unpredictable and they’d rather have someone like Vance in charge. Plus you know they hate having to actually have a conversation with him.)

David says:

Re: Re: Re:3

An inordinately powerful simpleton? We are not talking Baby Jesus here but rather Toddler Hitler.

On the plus side, sycophantry is a pretty safe bet even if you are transparently talking self-contradictory bullshit.

Just check your integrity and conscience and any expertise at the door. You’ll have no use for them.

RP says:

Re: IANAL but...

It’s not very strong, but it might apply as the Complaint describes the claimed letter as similar to a play and the WSJ is obviously news.

Florida’s general anti-SLAPP provision, which was adopted in 2000 and expanded in 2015, prohibits lawsuits brought against individuals for exercising their right of free speech in connection with a public issue or their rights to peacefully assemble, to instruct representatives of government, or to petition the government for a redress of grievances. Fla. Stat. Ann. § 768.295(3) (2019).

The law defines “free speech in connection with public issues” as statements “made before a governmental entity in connection with an issue under consideration or review by a governmental entity” or “made in or in connection with a play, movie, television program, radio broadcast, audiovisual work, book, magazine article, musical work, news report, or other similar work.” § 768.295(2)(a).

RP says:

Re:

Lawyer seemed to have hit “Send” before filling out all the boxes and that’s why Trump sued WSJ twice on Friday.

The Complaint only attacks the existence of the letter without bothering to explain in detail why it’s claimed existence is defamatory or that the reporting is false. Notably, it does not actually deny that Trump and Epstein were friends/pals/family at the time of Epstein’s 50th birthday, but in paragraph 23 weakly denies that is true today what with Epstein being radioactive and dead. It doesn’t deny associations with Maxwell. It doesn’t deny Trump’s scrawl resembles pubic hair. It doesn’t deny Trump’s ability or history of doodling. It doesn’t deny Trump’s past objectification of women. It doesn’t deny Trump’s ability to speak of himself in the third person. It doesn’t deny Trump’s ability to fantasize conversations into existence.

The complaint does little to substantiate actual malice when the facts about Trump that letter’s existence would seem to imply are not obviously wrong if you know anything about Trump.

The complaint does nothing to justify the $20 billion minimum in claimed damages.

RP says:

Did he stutter?

PACER reports DJT sued Murdock and Wall Street Journal twice today in Miami Federal Court (Florida, Southern District).

25-cv-23229 is just a stub with DJT seemingly representing himself, pro se. There is no complaint filed here.

25-cv-23232 has DJT represented by a Coral Gables law firm and has him suing in his individual capacity. Two tries to file the paperwork is embarrassing, but at least the lawyer is closer to the courthouse than Mar-a-Lago, so Trump wasn’t literally just looking in the parking lot for a lawyer.

Despite ALL the defendants being linked to New York, DJT wants to sue in Florida, claiming both personal jurisdiction and proper venue.

DJT’s lawyer thinks WSJ commonly prints sketches of naked women as per paragraphs 21–22:

Despite these unsubstantiated claims, however, the Article does not attach the purported letter, does not identify the purported drawing, nor does it show any proof that President Trump has anything to do with it.

Tellingly, the Article does not explain whether Defendants have obtained a copy of the letter, have seen it, have had it described to them, or any other circumstances that would otherwise lend credibility to the Article. That is because the supposed letter is a fake and the Defendants knew it when they chose to deliberately defame President Trump.

I don’t think any news source feels obliged to attach a full chain of proof to its article, so this point seems very weak and prone to being knocked over with fact witnesses. Are they going to put DJT on the stand to claim he never doodled naked women and didn’t create the page with his signature on it???

Let’s just peek under the hood to see if there is anything there.

Claims of defamatory per se:

  • The letter bears Trump’s name
  • The letter has an outline of a naked woman
  • The outline appears hand-drawn in heavy marker
  • Small arcs denotes the woman’s breasts
  • The signature “Donald” denotes the woman’s pubic hair
  • It is Trump’s signature
  • The letter contains an imaginary dialogue
  • Trump is one of the imagined speakers
  • Imaginary Trump finishes with “A pal is a wonderful thing. Happy Birthday — and may every day be another wonderful secret.”

Claims of implicit defamation:

  • Headline: Jeffrey Epstein’s Friends Sent Him Bawdy Letters for a 50th Birthday Album. One Was From Donald Trump.
  • Ghislaine Maxwell sought to build an album from “Jeffrey Epstein’s family and friends”, including Trump.
  • The album included content from various persons, including “childhood pals”
  • Epstein, at the time, was “socializing with Trump” at various locations

Um, all I see is:
* Trump used to associate with Epstein and Maxwell. ✅ (We’ve all seen it.)
* Trump’s signature is a scrawl that could substitute for pubic hair. ✅ (We’ve all seen it.)
* Trump, in the past, would doodle. ✅ (Before Sharpiegate, there were some sketches attributed to him.)
* Trump, in the past, would objectify women. ✅ (Objects with handles, even.)
* Trump is capable of speaking of himself in the third person. ✅ (J.K. Rowling, Washington Post, New York Times called him out for this.)
* Trump was capable of relating an imaginary dialogue. ✅ (Whether it’s his MIT uncle talking about the Harvard-educated Unabomber attending his classes and correcting everyone or the “Sir stories” where big, strong men come to Trump with tears in their eyes, it is clear that Trump can invoke fictional dialogue)

And the article went viral.

On this basis Trump demands not less than 20 billion dollars. Ha ha ha.

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Doctor Biobrain (profile) says:

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Hey, now! Don’t you be doubting Trump’s Sir Stories. Just last week I had five big strong men with tears streaming from their eyes come up to me on their knees and said “Please, sir. Tell everyone that we really do exist and to stop mocking us for our tears. That’s a medical condition and makes us feel like dogs to hear their disgraceful cackling.” Believe me, it’s true.

Doctor Biobrain (profile) says:

This isn’t hypocrisy. Rightwingers judge people based on who they are, not what they do. They think we SHOULD have two standards: One for “law abiding citizens” like themselves and another for everyone they hate.

They say this all the time, as if a “law abiding citizen” shouldn’t be held accountable for breaking the law because they’re good people and their enemies should be assumed guilty and aren’t even worthy of trials. And if you investigate a “good” person like Trump for wrongdoing that makes you a bad person deserving punishment. And if you defend a “bad” person like an illegal immigrant, that makes you a bad person.

Try it all you want. You’ll see this explains everything they say and do. They get offended if you tell them they’re equal to everyone else. And the idea that the Constitution protects noncitizens is an outrage. Being a citizen is one of the few things they’re proud of and they need to believe it gives them special rights that others don’t have.

Cathay (profile) says:

Re: It seems that knowing about the Streisand Effect . . .

I suspect they know about it, they just don’t expect it to apply to their god-king. They expect that everyone would recognise him as being in the right . . .

Ah, a realisation. Many creationists seem to believe that everyone knows their position is really correct and true, but some people deliberately rebel against it for incomprehensible evil reasons. The idea that it’s obvious nonsense to people who aren’t hard-of-thinking just isn’t something they can take in.

Do committed Trump supporters likewise believe that everyone who doesn’t do whatever Trump wants (and, indeed, are not anticipating his desires by “working towards the president”) are doing this against their own knowledge and beliefs? It would explain a few aspects of Trumpist behaviour.

That One Guy (profile) says:

'We elected a president not a saint.'

I am absolutely serious and not at all sarcastic when I say I have no idea why Trump is freaking out and trying so desperately to bury this story, because even if it was confirmed with absolute certainty and irrefutable evidence that not only did Trump spend a bunch of time on Epstein’s island with dozens if not hundreds of little girls while he was there I honestly don’t see it causing more than a minor and temporary bit of outrage among a small percentage of his cultists before they got right back to worshiping him and believing anything he tells them to.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

Re:

He could outright admit to molesting young girls and half his base would go “hurry up and legalize it for the rest of us”. They don’t give a damn about whatever morally heinous acts he commits so long as they get a chance to do what he does. Part of his entire appeal to the hardcore MAGA crowd is that he kept being cruel and bigoted out in the open without apology and no one cowed him into submission. That’s what they want: a taste of his supremacy in their own lives. They enjoy watching him mock disabled people and rail against “wokeness” and all that shit because it gives them permission to do the same, social consequences be damned.

Under this logic, the Access Hollywood tape was seen as a net positive for part of the male segment of the MAGA crowd. After all, if he could sexually assault women and get away with it, they should be able to do the same when he’s in charge. He gave them license to be assholes without apologetics, and they’ll stay on his side so long as he keeps doing that. Whether they get hurt by his policies and politics is irrelevant.

Thad (profile) says:

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I’ve had a lot of trouble understanding why, after everything else, this is the thing that seems like it’s actually got his base turning on him. Best theory I’ve been able to come up with is this:

They feel the same sense of dread and malaise as the rest of us. Eggs are still expensive, even most fascists probably don’t want unaccountable masked thugs picking up people off the streets in their neighborhood, basically even they can see that everything’s going to shit.

But they can’t admit to that. They can’t admit this isn’t really what they wanted. And they sure as hell can’t admit they made a mistake, not even to themselves.

But Epstein? Here’s an honest-to-fuck government coverup that just happens to play into every antisemitic conspiracy theory Fox News has been drip-feeding them for the past 30 years. So they channel their anger into that, because they can’t admit it’s not what they’re really angry about.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

Re: Re:

I’ve had a lot of trouble understanding why, after everything else, this is the thing that seems like it’s actually got his base turning on him.

It goes back to QAnon, at the bare minimum. QAnon adherents believed Trump was going to unleash “The Storm” and arrest a bunch of high-profile celebrities and politicians who were trafficking/molesting/killing children for…reasons. The Epstein thing stuck around when QAnon died out because high-profile right-wing pundits and MAGA adherents believed Democrats were covering up the Epstein files to hide wrongdoing by Democrats. During his 2024 campaign, Trump promised to release the Epstein files (though he did hedge his bets by saying he might not release them fully unredacted to protect “innocent people” or whatever). After landing her role in the Trump administration/regime/three-ring circus, Pam Bondi even implied that she had Epstein’s “client list” on her desk. MAGA faithful were effectively led to believe Trump was about to expose a whole bunch of people as pedophiles.

The recent memo that basically said “there is no ‘there’ there” is what triggered all of the Epstein stuff over the past few days. Now Trump, who is known to have had a relationship with Epstein for years before a falling-out between them, looks like he’s covering up the Epstein files in the same way MAGA followers said the Democrats were doing. That ain’t a good look for him, at least not with people who want to see the Epstein files exposed. It also raises the question of whether Trump really is implicated in actual wrongdoing by those files and he’s covering up his own crimes. Every denial and deflection makes him look worse to people who want the files (and the pedophiles supposedly named in them) exposed.

Thad (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:

Certainly Qanon is part of it, but it’s not like this is new information; they’ve been dismissive of the mountain of evidence about Trump’s affiliation with Epstein for years, and it’s not like MAGA hasn’t rationalized all the other obvious lies he’s told them. (He’d release his taxes; Mexico would pay for the wall; he’d Lock Her Up; etc.)

Why’s this the exception? I think it boils down to the blood libel (and so does Qanon). Jews abusing children. And here we have, again, an honest-to-God government conspiracy, elites all the way up to the presidency and foreign nobles abusing children and the US president covering it up and at the center of it is a dead body who, unfortunately, happened to be Jewish. It fits all the elements they’ve been trained to look for.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:2

Trump also isn’t helping himself by continuing to deny any connections to Epstein (despite their past friendship) and whining about the focus on Epstein (“methinks he doth protest too much”, or so the saying goes). He seems almost frightened by the idea that any information connecting him further to Epstein, even if Trump himself never molested any underage girls, could be in whatever files haven’t already been released.

Sunil Paul says:

Genuine question - is this official act or a private act

A question: won’t Trump and supporters claim this lawsuit and pressure campaign is a private act and not an official act of the government? And why won’t that stand up? It is a separate question of whether it should stand and whether a sitting president should be able to personally sue for defamation while in office (after all he can’t be prosecuted for private acts while holding office). But it seems like there isn’t anything to prevent a private lawsuit by a sitting president. Anyone have any insight on this question?

RP says:

Re: A shield is not a sword

Presidential duties and a implied immunity insulate a president from being bothered by civil lawsuits for the performance of official acts.

But here he waives that immunity to demand billions in (undocumented) damages. The court should take the $20 billion dollar claim at face value and let Murdoch do a full forensic examination of all Trump’s businesses and holdings to quantify these claimed losses and their causes. Any failure of candor, any failure to conform to discovery should be penalized with the adverse finding that Trump is the true author of the letter exactly as described in the article and complaint, and that Murdoch should be reimbursed in total for all associated legal costs. And since there might be limits on the court’s ability to impose fines and costs on the Article II president, his attorneys should be held jointly liable for this very serious matter.

John85851 (profile) says:

The case won't last long

Like other people are saying, this case won’t last long. Obviously the newspaper and Murdoch will never pay the billions that Trump is asking for, but they’ll pay $10 or $20 million to the “Trump presidential library” just to be done with it.
And sure, the newspaper will be done with the case (for now), but it’ll be another victory for Trump to use against another media company.

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