Roku Further Enshittifies Its Streaming Product With Compulsory Ads On Login
from the inch-by-inch dept
The enshittification of Roku’s streaming service, by which the company seeks the exact pinpoint at which it can extract the most amount of money from its customers without fostering a mass exodus of those same customers, continues. While Roku is not alone in the world of streaming services descending into this muck, it has been interesting to watch the company’s steady drumbeat engaging in this process, inch by inch, as though it wants to see precisely how much it can get away with in order to satisfy the quarterly-numbers class.
It started with feuds between Roku and content transmitters, like YouTube TV, over rights to content, looking for all the world like the content provider disputes that plagued cable TV. Then there was the firmware update that came with new terms of service that stripped those that already owned Roku devices and service of their legal rights, with the device rendered non-functional until those ToS were accepted. And because this is all very predictable, then came the ads. Roku filed a patent that would cover injecting ads into its Roku TVs, even if you were, say, playing a game on a console and paused it. Most recently came another firmware update fuck up, which would lock in device settings that users often hate, such as motion-blurring.
And now we’re back to more ads, it seems. It’s important to keep in mind that all of this gruel forced down the throats of the public isn’t being visited upon only new Roku customers. It gets rolled out to existing customers, as well. That means the experience people signed up for when they bought, say, their Roku TV is being torn away from them, replaced with something shittier. Like, say, Roku’s experiment to force people to watch advertisements before being allowed to get into their device to begin with.
Owners of smart TVs and streaming sticks running Roku OS are already subject to video advertisements on the home screen. Now, Roku is testing what it might look like if it took things a step further and forced people to watch a video ad play before getting to the Roku OS home screen.
Reports of Roku customers seeing video ads automatically play before they could view the OS’ home screen started appearing online this week. A Reddit user, for example, posted yesterday: “I just turned on my Roku and got an … ad for a movie, before I got to the regular Roku home screen.” Multiple apparent users reported seeing an ad for the movie Moana 2. The ads have a close option, but some users appear to have not seen it.
When reached for comment, a Roku spokesperson shared a company statement that confirms that the autoplaying ads are expected behavior but not a permanent part of Roku OS currently. Instead, Roku claimed, it was just trying the ad capability out.
Well, isn’t that nice? An experiment, apparently without any adequate notification, that erodes the user experience of the customer. Was there a way to opt out of this company’s “experiment”? It doesn’t appear so, based on all the confusion and anger among the customer base. Of which, by the way, there was a great deal.
Forum users who worried the change was permanent called the ads “unacceptable” and “intrusive.”
If Roku increases its ad load on customer devices from still images to ads with moving pictures with sound, it will test customers’ limits. Some who have tolerated a static image on a neglected part of their screen may not be as accepting of more distracting ad formats.
“I could accept the static ad on the side. Forcing a loud commercial is awful,” one Redditor wrote.
To treat even a subset of customers so callously has all the hallmarks of a brand in the decline of enshittification. Absent from all of this, including Roku’s statements, is even an iota of concern for the customers or how they experience the Roku platform. It’s a trial balloon, designed not to test anything other than the customers’ patience.
You can imagine the board meeting now. How much uproar was there? Did we get threats to cancel any services? What percentage threatened that? How does that compare with the revenue we would make with the remaining customers that we don’t think will cancel on us or change devices? Which dollar amount is higher, because that’s all the matters? Well, that and our stock price, which is about one-seventh of what it was a couple years ago?
This story typically ends in only one way, which is a company a fraction of the value it had before it decided to try to cash in to keep Wall Street happy. The hemovores are in charge now, feeding off of short-term stock jumps that may or may not come to be, but for which all is sacrificed.
Just don’t expect all that many people to stick around to watch the corpse wither.
Filed Under: ads, enshittification, smart tvs, streaming
Companies: roku


Comments on “Roku Further Enshittifies Its Streaming Product With Compulsory Ads On Login”
Buy from shit companies get fucked. Maybe consumers should stop being suck fucking useless idiots that roll over for corporations.
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It’s not so much consumers as it is human behavior. In fact, the same short-term play seen in the consumer purchases/subscriptions can be seen in the very people now abusing them.
Both are playing a short term game, and are going to lose.
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Strange how you put all the blame on consumers, and none on the company being shit.
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What dress were they wearing when they bought that Roku?
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This is a very anti-consumer take. You are defending Roku by victim-blaming the customers for Roku’s actions. I’m disappointed in you.
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this is such a fascinating take. do you create all goods with your bare hands? i want to study you under a microscope
Roku TV
I have a 42″ Roku 7128X TV I use as my PC’s monitor. After I bought it, I took it to work and never connected it to the internet. I liked the factory firmware. Then came the pandemic and working at home. I made the mistake of connecting it to the internet updated the firmware. I hated the changes, including ads. So I did a factory reset and that put it back the way I want – including no ads. Of course, that means I can never stream directly to the TV. But I can use it as a multiple input monitor and watch over the air broadcasts.
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You’re lucky you were able to get it to stop connecting to Wi-Fi. I had to blacklist a Samsung TV from my Wi-Fi because even a factory reset and manually disconnecting on the TV wouldn’t do it.
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Don’t you have a password on your WiFi? Plus, it’s easy to whitelist or blacklist MAC’s.
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…which is exactly what the previous commenter claimed to have done. But probably 99% of people don’t know MACs from Macs, in which case it’s not so easy. How many people even know how to log in to their router?
As for passwords, I haven’t yet figured a good way to configure separate passwords for each device. Like, apparently I could set up WPA3-Enterprise on OpenWRT, but I’d need to set up LDAP, and TLS certificates, and I don’t think my router has enough flash storage to install all of the necessary software, so the whole thing seems like a giant pain in the ass.
I think we could really use some practical means of deploying WPA3-SAE with one SSID and dozens of passwords that can be individually revoked. For now, for most people, changing a password means typing the new one into every single device they own, which is gonna suck.
Contact the advertisers
Is there any point to contacting the advertisers and tell them we don’t want to see their intrusive ads? Would this convince them not to spend money advertising on Roku TV?
Roku executives don’t care if a few customers don’t buy their TV, but they’ll care if Disney mentions pulling their ads because people are complaining.
Re: Not my ad team!
There is a 0% chance these kinds of mega companies would be willing to limit the
cultural pollutioncustomer outreach their expensive ad departments/executives suck out of the corporate structure. They pull big bucks (from the corporate budget), so it must be worth it! (/s for the credulous)Re:
Depends who the advertisers are.
The one time I watched Amazon Prime with ads, literally all the ads were for shows on Amazon Prime. They weren’t paid ads for other products or services, they were just there to annoy people into paying to get rid of them.
It’s too bad; I like my Roku but if it becomes a worse experience than just watching videos in a browser (it already is with Prime — I can block those ads in Firefox) then there’s no reason to use it anymore.
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No. Advertising is based on showing people stuff they don’t want to see. To get into advertising, one has to be blind to this reality, to have somehow rationalized this away, or to be a sociopath and just not care.
What you want is irrelevant. What matters is how much of their shit you’ll put up with, and how good they are at convincing their clients that they’ll get you to buy the products and services in question.
They say you can’t replace the OS on your Roku TV. I’m thinking no one has been motivated yet to really bother with such a hack; though I think the key there is “motivation.” Roku is going out of its way to increase motivation now… good on them!
Apropos of nothing here’s a neat YouTube video on how to build a parametric speaker to beam audio over a narrow window into remote locations, like buildings, or office buildings, or tech office buildings, or even multimedia tech office buildings. I’d recommend testing it with short audio clips, maybe 15-30 seconds in length. For best repeatability during testing, I recommend using the same 2-3 clips during the several hours or days it might take to get it working correctly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQOabMOMGoE
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So far, that’s been used for cool science demonstrations and promoted for creepy advertising. It’s been that way for decades (experiments started in the 1960s), with useful applications somehow still being rare. Like, where are the focused speakers that people could use to listen to loud music in their apartments without annoying the neighbours?
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We Are All Manuel Noriega Now
We’re getting closer and closer to “Please drink a verification can.”
So glad my Roku TV fried itself a few weeks ago. I don’t have to deal with this now.
My Roku isn’t quite old enough to merit replacement yet but if they start screwing around, it’s easy to boot it for an AppleTV+, which I was planning anyway. Roku’s doing a great job of getting more customers for Apple.
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I’ve found the cheap Onn boxes from Walmart to be an amazing replacement. A lot friendlier to network segmentation than Roku as well.
I think this is great news. The sooner Roku dies, the better.
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Because surely when there’s less competition the remaining players will be better.
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Streaming providers are basically a handful of different ways to funnel your money to the same assholes, i.e., the film industry (“MAFIAA”). No matter how many there are, it’s not gonna get much better; the “competition” is mostly a pretense.
This is exactly why I’m not an early adopter anymore. I now see things get enshittified beyond usability before I decide whether or not to buy in rather than after.
All I can say is, “Arr, matey. There be pirates in these waters.”
Roku
After dealing with the still unresolved and maddening Find My Remote fiasco, I gave up on Roku. I bought a $28 Onn streaming box and I’m quite happy with it. Not as slick and the remote takes a little getting used to but it has 95% of the functionality. All of the streaming service are supported. Roku is thankfully in my rear view mirror.
The people asked for a cheap piece of shit device that would turn their TV smart for the price of a Happy Meal during the Black Friday sale. The people also asked for a cheap piece of shit TV because they don’t want to pay the price for one that is actually decent. They literally get what they pay for. This enshittification should not surprise anyone.
Remember those cheap cell phones Amazon sold that show ads on the lockscreen? Those failed quickly. What’s it going to take to change people’s minds and boycott Roku?
Roku over the line
The shutting down of my tv making my streaming services snd even playstation unusable until i agreed to new terms was close to my limit Now the constant stupid repetitive ads every 5 minutes!! Did it im done with roku Black friday is day after tomorrow im getting a NON roku tv! This one works fine just cant stand roku anymore