Don’t Forget That The Same People Banning Books Want To Ban Porn
from the umm-no-shit-Sherlock dept
PEN America published recent data on book bans and removals just in time for Banned Books Week.
Key findings indicate that most books challenged by censorship advocates this past year focus on LGBTQ+ subject matter. Additionally, Iowa and Florida are currently the two worst states for book bans amid Republican-backed content restriction laws.
The PEN America data indicates that more than 10,000 books were removed from the shelves of school libraries across the country during the 2023-2024 academic year. The tally of removed books climbed triple-fold from last year’s tally of 3,362 removals.
Also, the American Library Association’s latest data additionally tracked 695 ban attempts with 1,915 unique titles challenged. Challenges, per this dataset, showed a slight decrease but further substantiated the finding concluded by PEN that most books targeted dealt with LGBTQ+ materials or sexuality.
These are sobering tallies as we draw ever closer to the 2024 presidential election and the number of civil liberties concerns riding on the final result. While Kamala Harris and Tim Walz have their own concerning positions, like Harris’ inconsistencies on FOSTA-SESTA and Section 230, the real concern, unsurprisingly, is on the Republican ticket, Donald Trump and JD Vance.
Trump and Vance offer a very real opportunity for the Heritage Foundation’s fascist Project 2025 to become a reality.
And, some of the key proposals outlined by Project 2025’s policy document, Mandate for Leadership, deal with adopting laws that could strip the First Amendment rights of millions of individuals. I wrote for Techdirt awhile back about the project’s effort to outlaw “pornography.”
Kevin Roberts, current president of the Heritage Foundation and now-alleged dog killer, wrote:
“Look at America under the ruling and cultural elite today:…children suffer the toxic normalization of transgenderism with drag queens and pornography invading their school libraries.”
“Pornography, manifested today in the omnipresent propagation of transgender ideology and sexualization of children, for instance, is not a political Gordian knot inextricably binding up disparate claims about free speech, property rights, sexual liberation, and child welfare. It has no claim to First Amendment protection.”
“Its purveyors are child predators and misogynistic exploiters of women. Their product is as addictive as an illicit drug and as psychologically destructive as any crime. Pornography should be outlawed. The people who produce and distribute it should be imprisoned.”
“Educators and public librarians who purvey it should be classed as registered sex offenders…“
Considering his words, the ‘Project 2025-worldview’ is a feigned belief held by far-right MAGA populists that young adult literature featuring a gender-diverse protagonist is tantamount to a feature film streaming on Brazzers.
And, it reminds us that those who are pushing book bans are also pushing laws that restrict consensual and legal online porn through inequitable age verification laws.
It’s an inconvenient, but unsurprising, truth. Consider Russell Vought of the Center for Renewing America as an example.
Vought is a Christian nationalist and former Trump administration official. His center previously published model legislation that would implement age verification requirements on virtually all websites with content the sponsor deems to be obscene or indecent to minors.
That model legislation was drafted in a way to justify age-gating and censorship of material that isn’t even legally considered “porn.” A case can even be made that this model legislation could be used to age-gate access to information about reproductive rights or LGBTQ+ mental health.
Vought was caught on hidden camera by undercover journalists not that long ago. He was pitching Project 2025 to the journalists posing as potential donors.
During the conversation, he said they intend to ban porn through a “back door.” The “back door” he refers to is the adoption of legislation that mandates age verification, like what was adopted in Texas. As I’ve covered extensively in my reporting and analysis, Texas lawmakers adopted House Bill (HB) 1181 in 2023.
Adult industry stakeholders, led by the Free Speech Coalition, sued Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton to block the enforcement of HB 1181.
After a sordid litigation history in district court and the U.S. Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals, the case is now before the U.S. Supreme Court. Free Speech Coalition et al. v. Paxton has developed into a landmark First Amendment case with broad implications.
Figures like Vought have openly advocated for book bans in addition to age verification measures that specifically target porn. And they do so without regard for the First Amendment.
An amicus brief filed in support of the Free Speech Coalition and the porn companies in the pending Supreme Court case makes this argument.
The amicus brief, filed on behalf of literary rights groups and book publishers, highlights the overlapping nature of book bans and age verification requirements.
The brief argues, “At a moment in which the political appetite for book banning is at an upswing, scaling back the searching review of such content-based restrictions poses an especially concrete threat to access to constitutionally protected materials.” Age verification is a “content-based” restriction.
Laws prohibiting access to books because of the content are virtually similar to laws prohibiting access to certain websites due to that content. Any argument to suggest otherwise is moot.
Michael McGrady covers the tech and legal sides of the online porn business.
Filed Under: book bans, kevin roberts, porn, porn ban, project 2025, russell vought


Comments on “Don’t Forget That The Same People Banning Books Want To Ban Porn”
Porn is bad!
Hire your mistress instead!
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if trump wins say good bye to your internet
I'mma repeat what I said on that 2023 article.
Whenever freedom is eroded, porn will always go first, since few people will publicly defend it. Someone may cheer if it gets banned, but eventually, something they value will become the thing nobody is willing to publicly defend. Republicans already know this—and weaponize it to a frightening degree. Same-sex kissing in movies? “That’s porn.” A book about a girl with two mommies? “Yep, porn.” Age-appropriate sex education? “Oh that is hella porn.” They know how well the phrase “protecting kids” serves these efforts. But this isn’t about “protecting” kids, so much as it’s about controlling them—much like how this fight against porn isn’t about the porn, so much as it’s about opening a door to censoring content that conservatives don’t like.
And since I know some dipshit troll will try to twist what I’m saying here: I don’t support children being exposed to porn, I don’t support porn being in public libraries, and I support age-appropriate sex education because it’s proven to help prevent the sexual assault of children.
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“They know how well the phrase “protecting kids” serves these efforts. But this isn’t about “protecting” kids, so much as it’s about controlling them—much like how this fight against porn isn’t about the porn, so much as it’s about opening a door to censoring content that conservatives don’t like.”
yes i think that’s part of the projects goal even tho conservatives will suffer cuase of this
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and that if they don’t win there already gonna cuase violence to get what they want
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Porn should be banned, and your own statements on the topic indicate that you believe children should have access to sexually explicit materials, especially those promoting the deviant transgender lifestyle.
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and there we go a troll twisting words like a idiot you are
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Oh look, it’s an emoji of you opening wide to suck tranny cock, faggot.
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oh look it’s you using idiot insults and you also defend csam
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Reminder bro, to not use your search parameters as insults.
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It’s so amusing, you told them about the trap you were setting out for them and yet they still couldn’t resist jumping right in the damn thing.
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…hallucinated no sane human, ever.
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We’re not deviant, we’re happier and healthier mentally.
Re: I'mma repeat what I said on that 2023 article
Well, yeah, the Nazis had already figured that out. If you really want to control the masses you need to take away their rights. And the way you do that is to remove the rights that have the fewest defenders first, and then the next right, and the next… until you eventually control all the rights, and have the masses totally under your control.
It’s not an accident that the Nazis are all part of the current Republican Party.
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so lets vote blue to save America
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“Save America” from what?
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from a dictator named trump don’t you even realize what’s at stake here?
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Hmm. A “dictator” who relinquished power willingly after his term as an elected official expired (and facilitated the peaceful transition of power!) and is now running for election while showing great respect for the electoral process?
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congratulations you are a idiot are you happy with yourself?
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That was after a demand for Mike Pence to take unconstitutional action and an insurrection both failed to keep him in power. Conservatives are already floating trial balloons for the idea of “Trump should get two consecutive terms, so he should have a chance for a third term in 2028 if he wins in 2024”. He didn’t want to give up power; this is why he kept insisting, without evidence, that the 2020 election was “stolen” or “rigged”. He is already laying the groundwork for another coup attempt by alleging before the 2024 election that the election will be “stolen” if he isn’t declared the winner—just as he did in both 2020 and 2016. Donald Trump and the GOP want power; they will do damn near anything to get it. That includes repeating shit-ass predictions from four years ago (“the economy is going to crash like 1929 if I’m elected”) and literally lying about legal immigrants, both to scaremonger conservative-leaning voters to put Trump back in power as if he alone could solve those problems.
That doesn’t even get into all the dangerous bullshit in Project 2025. And despite Trump distancing himself from it, Project 2025 is basically Trump policy in all but name—and he doesn’t have to approve of it for the people he would put in government positions to carry it out. Donald Trump and Project 2025 are one and the same; to believe otherwise is foolish beyond belief.
As noted above, Trump only respects the electoral process if and when he wins. Even when he won in 2016, he kept whining like a child about how he lost the popular vote. You can bet that if Trump loses this year, he will do anything and everything—possibly including illegal acts—to try and overturn the will of the voters so he can return to the White House. The grand irony there: If Kamala Harris wins, she will preside over the certification of her own victory, and Trump will never be able to pressure her into throwing the certification into chaos.
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And yet he very peacefully transferred power to the next elected president, and is now out there meeting voters, campaigning, asking for the public’s support at the ballot box. The real threat to democracy was the Democrat coup against Joe Biden and his replacement with Kamaltoe, who no one voted for!
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did you even read what Stephen said?
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Only after he continually failed to prevent that peaceful transfer of power.
I don’t see how it was a “coup”, since the primary was bound to select Biden and Harris as their candidates. Biden dipping out meant Harris was the logical successor, just as she would be if he were to resign the presidency before his term is up. Y’all just mad Donny T forced Biden into such an early debate and fucked up the whole “he’s too old to be president again” talking point that was clearly going to be the center of a campaign that is now focusing on [checks notes] blatant, provable, and admitted lies about people of color from other countries. Ah, good ol’ fashioned conservative racism—gotta love it (but only if you’re a racist).
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…hallucinated nobody mentally competent, ever.
Has the only one “pussy-grabber” got any bad surprise when grabbing recently?
A waste of government resources
Let’s suppose the government actually gets pornography banned. How much are they going to spend on enforcing that ban? How many courts are going to get clogged up with porn cases? How many police officers have to be diverted from other matters to carry out porn busts?
There’s a lot of demand for pornography, to say nothing of the ease with which a person can make their own. I can certainly understand wanting to keep it away from kids, but keeping it away from adults and teenagers is next to impossible no matter how much the government is willing to waste on a crackdown.
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They’re not planning to crack down on everybody. As you point out, that’s virtually impossible.
While there are probably a number of naive do-gooders out there that really want to get rid of the evils of porn, for most of the leadership this is simply a way to exercise control.
The good thing about broad bans like this is selective enforcement. The guys in charge get to decide who they want to go after. And, if you’re a good little brown-noser you have nothing to worry about. But, if you’re the kind of person to stand up for yourself, or worse, stand up for the rights of others, they can bring the hammer down anytime they feel like it.
So, be afraid. Be very afraid.
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Another good thing about broad legislation like this is that if the constitution is still remotely functional, it won’t make it far in court.
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You say that, but there are at least five people on the Supreme Court whose ideology is in the same ballpark as the one expressed in Project 2025.
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And THAT is why it’s important to make it as hard as possible for them to achieve that goal.
Which includes getting SCOTUS back under control before they establish themselves as above the government itself.
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..Well I realize they kinda ARE already since it’s part of the job of the SCOTUS to keep the government in check with the constitution but..
You get the point.
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Answers: Far too much, and far too many.
It’s also a back door to tracking the citizenry with full PII.
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what’s PII?
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Personally Identifiable Information
To prove that you are an adult you must supply personally identifiable information to the service. It’s a treasure trove of data if the government want to track people.
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my problem with this is that if they get there way i think everyones gonna be in jail
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It’s not so much that everyone’s gonna be in jail, just everyone that they want to get rid of.
If you’re willing and able to pay to stay out of jail, or if you’re otherwise useful to the people in power, they will probably keep you around. The longer they keep you around, the more chances they will have to squeeze more property out of you.
But, yeah, anyone that’s a problem to the people in power will absolutely be put in jail at the first opportunity.
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fascism will go after people they hate first then there own then there own friends and the final result is the nation dies
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fascism will go after people they hate first then there own supporters then there own friends and the final result is the nation dies
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Given how much ‘privacy laws’ in the United States suck right now, it’s a treasure trove of data for a whole bunch of bad actors, too.
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source?
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Age verification methods require either collecting personal information or relying on the government if the government already has the information on hand (like driver’s license, but not every legal resident has one!).
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There are zero-knowledge protocols that could prove a person has possession of a card indicating “proof of adultivity”, without revealing who’s accessing what. The government would never propose that, because a kid would just need to “borrow” a parent’s I.D. card to get around the restriction, and without detailed logs there’d be no way to audit for it. But the theoretical math has long been solved.
Before we consider interesting mathematics, we should note the lack of evidence that anyone’s been harmed by seeing pornography or reading a book. On the other hand, poorly-secured bookshelves and other furniture kill about 20 American children per year.
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And that’s the rub, nobody is interested in using such technology because it means it’s going to be so much harder to track and monetize visitors.
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and so the safest bet is to not use the internet at all
You left out one bit…
They don’t just intend to criminalize porn production and distribution, they explicitly include consumption too.
https://www.project2025.org/truth/
Age verification isn’t a back door ban, if they have their way it’s a map to send the cops to your front door.
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that’s very dangerous that could be everyone
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So gay porn is ok then? It’s hardly a misogynistic exploitation of women.
Anyway, I didn’t know the US had a cadre of Taliban so well organized.
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and the thing is this could get the majority of people in prison or almost everyone in jail or worse
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and am panicking becuase i sometimes view porn to ease my stress and uhh this would put me at risk of getting in jail
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although am trying to cut back on it so i don’t continue to be addicted to it but it’s been difficult
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Kill yourself, degenerate.
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said the degenerate named hyman who defended csam
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am less of a degenerate since i don’t support csam like you do hyman
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I don’t know who hymen is and I don’t know what “csam” is.
I do, however, know you’re a sick porn addict.
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you don’t know what csam is wow your dumber then me
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sick? sick? i have improved since getting away from it so am no threat but you csam defender are
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Anyway, I didn’t know the US had a cadre of Taliban so well organized.
Oh most certainly, they go by the name ‘republicans’ in the US.
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and hyman the pedo has returned in the comments above me by telling me to die
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Do you disagree that you’re a pervert and a threat to society?
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“Do you disagree that you’re a pervert and a threat to society?”
do you agree that you defend csam answer the question hyman
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Dude, at this point, you’re more of a troll than the actual trolls. Go touch grass—preferably at a distance of at least five miles from any computer, mobile device, and/or wireless Internet connection.
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why are you defending hyman?
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I’m not. I’m calling you a spammer and a troll, and I’m suggesting that maybe you need to get off the Internet for longer than ten minutes—and maybe stop reading Techdirt, since it seems to be making you psychotic.
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yes i do disagree cuase i don’t see people as objects and your death threats are sad
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Your every accusation is a confession.
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Also, considering that they don’t consider us transgender women as women, what about transgender pornography?
(I realize it’s a whole bag of worms and there are cisgender men who are chasers and transphobes and both, but bear with me)
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No one thinks “transgender women” are women. Everyone knows that you’re just mentally ill biological males (ie., men), which is why actual women don’t want you anywhere near their single-sex spaces.
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“No one thinks “transgender women” are women.”
and the lie detector said that is a lie
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Guess that makes me, Leah, and a whole bunch of other Techdirt commenters ‘no one’, then.
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“Porn is between a man and a woman.”
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You will know it when you see it.
I read this and my mind immediately went to this describes a certain orange man running for president..
I like how Groucho Marx put it, in Duck Soup:
Illegal to exist
Having these perverted weirdos obsessing about what consenting adults do in their own homes is problematic enough but things go from deranged to dangerous when you remember how much of the current trans-bashing is based upon framing their existence as inherently ‘pornographic’.
Add in how often these anti-porn bans seems to accidentally scoop up books containing any positive portrayals of non-heterosexual relationships and/or minorities and ‘we must get rid of porn’ becomes exposed as not just a way for anti-porn perverts to force their idea of ‘acceptable’ speech onto everyone else but a way for cowardly bigots to ban anything they don’t like, exploiting kids to do it.
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that’s what scares me
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If trans deviants had confined their degeneracy to the home and kept their disgusting fetishes out of public view, no one would care about them.
But oh no, they had to start pushing radical gender ideology down the throats of our vulnerable children and young people.
Death to LGBTQ+ freaks!
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ok hyman
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hello csam defender
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Just get out, please.
Talk like this is exactly why some people call for the complete de-anonymization of the web.
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That’s nice Herman. Now back into your clitty cage.
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So tell me precisely what disgusting fetishes was Gavin Grim pushing into people’s faces?
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Most people I come in contact with accept me for who I am. If anyone is the degenerate freak, it’s you and people like you.
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Yes, they accept that you’re a mentally-ill man (ie, biological male) who should not be permitted to infiltrate and corrupt women’s single-sex spaces.
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“Yes, they accept that you’re a mentally-ill man (ie, biological male) who should not be permitted to infiltrate and corrupt women’s single-sex spaces.”
and twisting words man you fall into the same trap twice
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It’s only natural, to hold the views he holds one must be stupid. Don’t expect any intellectual miracles from this old man who lets his irrational anger rule what little life he has left.
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Your every accusation, a confession.
Project 2025 continues to be a nightmarishly bonkers idea as usual.
The people who want to ban “pornographic” books want to diddle kids.
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Well, of course. Once the books are gone they need to get their rocks off somehow, right?
they also want to declare trans people "pornographic" for simply existing
They want to define trans people as pornographic for simply existing. That means that anyone who supports a trans person even with something simple like a haircut could be charged which producing pornography.
And heaven help you if your kid comes out as trans.
It’s not enough to just to try to wipe us out, they want to get anyone who cares about us too.
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Trans people are demonic.
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I grew up christian and tried to “pray away the gay” for 30 years. It didn’t work.
If it’s demonic, then the devil is far more powerful than your God.
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Exactly. What the far-right Republicans want to do to us (and are actually doing to us) is trans genocide.
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We should be so lucky as a society that you freaks actually were being liquidated.
Instead, you’re just being told to stop grooming children and stay the fuck out of women’s single-sex spaces–SINCE YOU’RE LITERALLY MENTALLY-ILL MEN!
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every accusation a confession
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Why are you so obsessed with penises?
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Maybe he’s a self-hating queer himself? 🤷♀️
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You know what makes society a bad place? People like you. History tells us what happens when your ilk is in power, it’s death-camps and gas-chambers, pogroms, forced re-education, slave-labor and so on.
You are free to provide just one single example were a society was a good place when some groups of people were persecuted for .
But do keep sounding like a nazi who had a tendency to claim groups of people they didn’t like were mentally ill.
It’s easy to find out who’s actually mentally ill, it’s the one who argues for death-camps and liquidation of people they don’t like.
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does he realize that the leopard will eat his face too?
They can come take porn from my cold, dead, sticky hands.
They want to ban those books because they think they’re pornographic, even if they are literature.
They don’t want those books in the schools, or the libraries or even the bookstores…
Problem is, the books they go after arn’t even the smuttiest stuff out there…
If you want that, you go to the Romance section of any bookstore…
And trying to close that down is gonna be fun for them…
Because the demographic that reads that porn is conservative housewives…
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Guy who has a job adjacent to the the porn industry writes an article defending the porn industry. Techdirt users chime in and claim that if you are against an industry that regularly destroys peoples’ lives, inside and outside of the industry, you want to hurt children/are against free speech/le every accusation is le confession.
If an oil baron was dumping toxic waste into a river and tried to defend it under the first amendment, people would laugh at him. When a porn company dumps toxic waste into society and defends it under the first amendment, Techdirt users defend it.
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If you don’t like porn, don’t look at it. If you think porn is harmful, feel free to say so. But you have no right to demand that everyone else live by your rules. Millions of people look at porn every day without ruining their lives or becoming sex-crazed rapists or whatever-the-hell. Who the fuck are you to tell those millions of people that you know what’s best for all of them? Because unless you’re God, you don’t know dick.
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Ironic coming from a guy who’s admitted on this very site that his addiction to tranny porn has led him to cruise the streets looking for shemales to blow!!
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“Ironic coming from a guy who’s admitted on this very site that his addiction to tranny porn has led him to cruise the streets looking for shemales to blow!!”
where i don’t see anything from him that states that he is into that stuff
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Every accusation, a confession.
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I love how you pretend your hobbies are someone else’s because you’re ashamed of them bro. You’re so utterly trans(parent)
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Feel free to take your mental illness elsewhere.
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As others have pointed out, porn exposure is voluntary, toxic waste in a river, not so much.
But if you want to talk about industries that regularly destroy lives?
We can talk about the right wing persecution complex industry
I don’t see Project 2025 looking to criminalize that type of speech, despite it’s constant violent outbursts and the ruined lives it leaves in it’s wake.
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Censorship on Steroids or Nanny Knows Best
https://aflegal.org/explosive-censorship-documents-america-first-legal-releases-complete-internal-facebook-onboarding-documents-used-to-train-cdc-employees-on-how-to-censor-the-american-public/
If you follow this link you will see something I found to be disturbing. I would like to hear some thoughts about it.
Please feel free to let it all hang out!!
Btw… Trump or Kamala- we are in one deep pile of excrement.
Thanks for your thoughtful insights in advance!
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So in other words, the persecution fantasists at AFL, found a document that showed that the decision making on taking posts down was done on Facebook’s end, and by Facebook’s rules.
Not by the Government..
Shocking, just shocking.
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Wow, even your username is a lie.
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First off, totally off topic.
Second, that’s… not what AFLegal claims it is, and I would not trust them as an accurate purveyor of literally how to boil water.
Social media websites have long had programs for trusted flaggers to make it easier for the company’s trust & safety teams to review content (against its own rules) for violations. There’s no censorship or anything of the kind. It’s literally “hey, do these violate your rules?” and that’s it.
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Don’t forget PEN America quite literally hosts massive orgies. for gay straight bi and trans execs.
It’s leadership is reknowned in “certain circles” for being whats referred to as ‘open to experimentation’…..
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Sorry that should read Kevin Roberts hosts orgies. not PEN. sorry
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You had me excited for a moment! 😋
Giving them a sheen of respectability, which is the scariest thing. The headline would have been better if it read, “Don’t Forget That The Same People Banning Porn Want To Ban Books”
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Also, these are the people who want their voice to be perma-not-banned.
Money, money, money, money, money, money...
They banned pot.
Price of pot went from 20 dollars an ounce to around 300 dollars an ounce. Pot growers, distributors, and sellers are ecstatic. Then they admitted it wasn’t harmful after all and legalized it… at its higher price of course.
They ban porn and you can bet porn will still be sold, but at a hugely inflated price. All of those millionaires who have a chunk of capital tied up in porn production, distribution and retail are gonna be ecstatic. Then they’ll slowly remove the ban bit by bit, to increase sales, while keeping the price at the new high.
Business as usual folks.
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Pot is at $100 per ounce, if you’re going to use an analogy, use facts.
is there any hope left of winning democracy back?
Lifted from my travels…
First they came for the porn stars, but I did nothing because I was not a porn star.
Then they came for the dirty magazine publishers, but I did nothing because I am not a dirty magazine publisher.
Then they came for the pin-up girls, but I did nothing because I am not a pin-up girl.
And then we had no porn, and no one came for me.
Perhaps it says something about these conservatives who keep claiming transsexual people are porn. Maybe if they stopped watching that sort of porn they might notice that there are people who have gender dysphoria & in seeking treatment are trying to be their true selves & happy. That whole life, liberty, pursuit of happiness thing they claim to care about.
Exploiting women, by paying them very well to engage in consensual sex that they are compensated for used by others for enjoyment.
Isn’t it more exploitive of women to force them to risk their lives to carry a dead fetus? Give birth to the baby of someone who violated her? Wait until they are minutes from death before allowing them to get medical care to save their lives that might end a pregnancy (even if that pregnancy had no possibility of remaining viable).
Perhaps the main reason they are trying to call all things ‘trans’ porn is because otherwise they had to admit that some people feel they were born in the wrong body & their own personal beliefs that their imaginary skyfreind can’t make mistakes means its all the devils work.
Laws should not be based on a few idiots superstitions.
They aren’t demon possessed, they just don’t share your world view but calling them demon possessed lets you feel better about ignoring their right to not have you trying to control their life.
You know who wants you to take control over others and oppress them?? Satan. You have all played into satans hands and you are making life on earth hell for everyone else while deluding yourselves that you are actually the good guys. Good guys don’t force women to die, good guys don’t get a say what others do in their bedrooms, good guys don’t track women’s periods so they can be punished if they don’t uphold what your “morals” say they are supposed to do.
Wacky idea… you go on and on about how dog gave you dominion over the animals the land the seas blah blah blah… He didn’t give you dominion over other men so maybe get back in your lane, deal with your leaders raping children, & explain how if you have to make a gay cake that makes you part of it supporting it but giving money to a church that has covered up the sexual abuse of children for decades isn’t the same fucking thing.
Take your book of fairy tales and do fuck right off.
You assholes can’t hold yourselves to your own rules, stop trying to force the rest of us into your failed cult.