Once More With Feeling: Banning TikTok Is Unconstitutional & Won’t Do Shit To Deal With Any Actual Threats

from the stupid-xenophobic-moral-panic dept

Over the last few days, we’ve had a few posts about the latest attempt to ban TikTok in the US (and to people who say it’s only a divestiture bill: there is a ban in the language of the bill if ByteDance won’t divest).

Yesterday, unsurprisingly, the House voted overwhelmingly, 352 to 65, to pass that bill. The 15 Republicans and 50 Democrats who voted no make up an odd mix. You have some extreme Trump supporters, who probably are voting no because the boss man said so, and then a random assortment of Democrats, including a bunch from California. I thought Rep. Sara Jacobs from the San Diego area put out a particularly good statement on why this bill is so stupid:

As a member of both the House Armed Services and House Foreign Affairs Committees, I am keenly aware of the threat that PRC information operations can pose, especially as they relate to our elections. However, after reviewing the intelligence, I do not believe that this bill is the answer to those threats. Banning TikTok won’t protect Americans from targeted misinformation or misuse of their personal data, which American data brokers routinely sell and share. This is a blunt instrument for serious concerns, and if enacted, would mark a huge expansion of government power to ban apps in the future. Instead, we need comprehensive data privacy legislation, alongside thoughtful guardrails for social media platforms – whether those platforms are funded by companies in the PRC, Russia, Saudi Arabia, or the United States.

Taking this unprecedented step also undermines our reputation around the world. We can’t credibly hold other countries to one set of democratic values while giving ourselves a free pass to restrict freedom of speech. The United States has rightly criticized others for censorship and banning specific social media platforms in the past. Doing so ourselves now would tarnish our credibility when it matters most and trample on the civil liberties of 150 million Americans – a vast majority of whom are young Americans – who use TikTok for their livelihoods, news, communication, and entertainment. Ultimately, all Americans should have the freedom to decide for themselves how and where to express themselves and what information they want to consume.”

I think the second paragraph here is the key one. People keep saying “but they do the same to us.” That’s no excuse. We shouldn’t take a page from the Chinese censorship playbook and basically give them the moral high ground, combined with the ability to point to this move as justification for the shenanigans they’ve pulled in banning US companies from China.

Don’t let the authoritarians set the agenda. We should be better than that.

But also, her first paragraph is important as well. To date no one has shown an actual evidence of TikTok being dangerous. Instead, all that people will tell me is that there was some sort of classified briefing about it. From Rep. Jacobs’ statement we see that she was able to see that classified intel, and did not find it convincing at all.

I even find myself in rare agreement with Rep. Thomas Massie, who once blocked me on Twitter. He did so in response to me calling out his First Amendment violations in blocking people on Twitter (he eventually removed the block after the Knight First Amendment Institute sent him a letter on my behalf). Rep. Massie may have a somewhat conditional take on the First Amendment, but he correctly pointed out just how dangerous this bill would be:

The President will be given the power to ban WEB SITES, not just Apps. The person breaking the new law is deemed to be the U.S. (or offshore) INTERNET HOSTING SERVICE or App Store, not the “foreign adversary.”

Massie also pointed (as we did earlier this week) to the clearly lobbied-for (hi, Yelp lobbyists!) “exclusion” for review websites as proof that people know this law covers websites.

I stand by the point we’ve been making for multiple years now: banning TikTok is a stupid, performative, unconstitutional, authoritarian move that doesn’t do even the slightest bit to stop China from (1) getting data on Americans or (2) using propaganda to try to influence people (which are the two issues most frequently used to justify a ban).

Banning TikTok, rather than passing comprehensive federal privacy legislation, is nothing but xenophobic theater. China can (and does) already buy a ton of data on Americans because we refuse to pass any regulation regarding data brokers who make this data available (contrary to popular opinion, Facebook and Google don’t actually sell your data, but data brokers who collect it from lots of other sources do).

Meanwhile, there’s little to no evidence that China is “manipulating” sentiment with TikTok, and there’s even less evidence that it would be effective if they were trying to do so. Public sentiment in the US regarding China is reaching record lows, with the vast majority of Americans reasonably concerned about China’s role in the world. So if China is using TikTok to propagandize to Americans, it’s doing a shitty job of it.

The US has dealt with foreign propaganda for ages. And we don’t ban it. Part of free speech is that you have to deal with the fact that nonsense propaganda and disinformation exists. There are ways to deal with it and respond to it that don’t involve banning speech. It’s astounding to me how quickly people give up their principles out of a weird, xenophobic fear that somehow China has magic pixie dust hidden within TikTok to turn Americans’ brains to mush.

The Supreme Court has reviewed this kind of thing before and said that, no the US cannot ban foreign propaganda just because it’s scared of what that propaganda says. In that case, the government sought to restrict the delivery of “communist political propaganda” from outside the country. The court struck down the restriction on First Amendment grounds, stating that it was “a limitation on the unfettered exercise of the [recipient’s] First Amendment rights.”

As the court noted in that case, the setup of the law was “at war with the ‘uninhibited, robust, and wide-open’ debate and discussion that are contemplated by the First Amendment.”

In the US, we’re supposed to believe in freedom of speech, even if that freedom of speech comes in the form of “foreign communist propaganda.” If we survived that same foreign communist propaganda for decades in other forms, it seems like we can survive it coming from an app designed to highlight short videos of dance moves.

Again, we can pass data protection laws if we’re afraid of how the data is going to be used, because China doesn’t need TikTok to get that data. And we can counter Chinese propaganda. But part of doing so has to be not hiding it and acting like it’s so powerful that Americans are powerless against it. You counter it by showing how freedom can resist such efforts at manipulation.

I have no idea if the Senate will actually take up this bill, though there’s good reason to believe they will. However, such a ban would be a huge mistake, reflect poorly on American values, and show how quickly we’re willing to ignore the First Amendment on some misguided fear of a successful app from a foreign country.

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Anonymous Coward says:

What i always find fun is how the government and TV news present this to the public: Oh, they can see your posts, and IP address! Uh, lots of people can see your posts, and are you telling me that China gives a crap about random teens’ IP addresses? Every network thing you interact with sees an IP address.

It’s funny how they never mention phone numbers, because i guess people might think a little about who gets their phone numbers, and maybe how they are just a wee bit more linked to individuals than IP addresses. (Various sorts of device IDs? lol whatevs.)

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bhull242 (profile) says:

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What effort is required?

Evidence for your claim, for a start.

The site owner supports child exploitation, […]

False

[…] the sex industry, […]

Their constitutional rights and safety, yes. Outside of that? No.

This also has nothing to do with the CCP whatsoever.

[…] the gender mutilation and sterilization industry, […]

False. That industry doesn’t even exist, but assuming you mean medical treatment for trans people, the parts involving surgery and potential sterilization are only used for adults who specifically ask for it for themselves, and supporting their right to do whatever they want with their bodies shouldn’t be controversial.

This also has nothing to do with the CCP whatsoever.

[…] the Democratic Party generally, […]

Kinda? Maybe? They also criticize the Democratic Party a lot, including here. I fail to see the problem.

This also has nothing to do with the CCP whatsoever.

[…] and the very evil CCP.

Uh, you’re supposed to be proving that here, remember? Seriously, no they don’t. Just asserting something doesn’t make it true.

A more loathsome character you couldn’t imagine on the pages of the NY Times.

That’s because you a) are delusional about what the people who write on this site actually say or support, and b) have a limited imagination and even more limited experience with real people. Seriously, I can easily think of way more loathsome characters.

Anonymous Coward says:

I’m ashamed that we have elected such dunderheads to represent us in Congress. If anyone should be worried about propaganda, it’s these fools and their susceptibility to nonsense. And if we are honestly concerned about the impact of propaganda, we should be doing much, much more to counteract the utter b.s. that emanates from the people funding the MAGA lies. What’s particularly concerning is that the rank-and-file MAGA supporters are the people that will be hurt the most if Trump is re-elected and the Republicans continue to give the country to the ultra-wealthy. Trump’s latest nonsense about killing Social Security is just a disguise for handing control of the Social Security trust funds to wealthy investors. Adding one or two more dishonest Supreme Court justices will complete the demotion of women to servants, outlaw birth control, and probably eliminate religious freedom. If we deport masses of people, the economy will crash and we will get to re-visit the Great Depression. Why would anyone want that?

Anonymous Coward says:

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Not possible, that’s far too positive an outcome. A country without authoritarians? That’s only for utopian fiction.

The US will become fascist state full-stop. You won’t even need Trump to usher it in either because the DNC has been green-lighting RNC fascist policy without so much as a whisper of protest from what claims to be “the left” since the Patriot Act.

The real damage Trump did to the country was prove the US populace only shuns fascism if it’s presented to them by an illiterate jagaloon.

Manny Pold says:

Of course this Trump employee for wall street wants tiktok

Well I guess when it comes to Palestine you cannot show any human rights violations. I am sure this guy who is a Trump tart will make sure TikTok represents free speech in the conflict in the Middle East.

https://twitter.com/SquawkCNBC/status/1768253355187408973?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1768253355187408973%7Ctwgr%5Eafac0ae7b256379d27a453d934b876a0ba6ee4e1%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.infowars.com%2F

Arianity says:

Meanwhile, there’s little to no evidence that China is “manipulating” sentiment with TikTok, and there’s even less evidence that it would be effective if they were trying to do so.

Didn’t they get caught blocking things like Tiananmen?

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/sep/25/revealed-how-tiktok-censors-videos-that-do-not-please-beijing

They’ve since changed the policy, and you can find content on Tiananmen now (not sure about other topics), but it does seem kind of concerning and not a hypothetical. And it’s not like it’s not inline with how the CCP has made demands of corporate organizations like the NBA.

Arianity says:

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The CCP makes “demands” (read: threats) all the time. Not every company complies, but sadly, most do.

That’s kind of the problem, since a company based in China is much more vulnerable to demands/threats.

That has nothing to do with the Xi Dynasty

I mean, it does in that they’re the ones making the threats?

Anonymous Coward says:

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There’a always the option to pull out of the poisoned chalice known as the Chinese market.

Again, considering that Epic Games let Tencent own 41% of the company, Microsoft still operates a stripped-down version of LinkedIn, among other things, companies think they can comply with the ever-changing whims of the warmonger Xi.

Something even China’s domestic businesses cannot even comply with at the best of times.

Anonymous Coward says:

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Continued support of Hamas (for the war in the Middle East), turning Russia into its puppet state (for Ukraine), and possibly aiming to start one in South Korea (via North Korea) and they’ve been fucking screaming about wanting to violently take over Taiwan…

None of these is Xi DIRECTLY starting wars, mind you. but supporting ongoing wars and looking to start some ae generally considered to be warlike…

(We can also toss in their aggression in the South China Sea as well.)

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Anonymous Coward says:

I think the second paragraph here is the key one. People keep saying “but they do the same to us.” That’s no excuse. We shouldn’t take a page from the Chinese censorship playbook and basically give them the moral high ground, combined with the ability to point to this move as justification for the shenanigans they’ve pulled in banning US companies from China.

Mike, I think your point here simply can not be over stated. We MUST be better than that. Because if we are not… we will start doing exactly what we say is wrong with our “enemies” (you know, kind of like the house is doing).

T.L. (profile) says:

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Exactly. The fact that more than two-thirds of the House Democratic caucus voted in favor of his bill and Biden has stated he would sign the PAFACA if it’s passed undermines any moral high ground that Democrats have when it comes to civil liberties. When the GOP has basically abandoned allegiance to democracy and civil rights (as typified by their actions to overturn a legitimate election, and passing laws to restrict LGBTQ+ and reproductive rights (among other liberties) thanks to Trump’s influence, it’s not a good look to co-sign on legislation that dictates what means of communication Americans can access.

There’s a reason why Biden and certain House Democrats (like North Carolina Rep. Jeff Jackson) who use TikTok have been flamed by users for supporting a law that could ban a platform they use to reach voters, it looks hypocritical, especially when they preach about Trump/MAGA’s very real threat to democracy. It also furthers the false narrative that Democrats are no different than Republicans, which doesn’t help when we’re trying to assure people that Dems can be entrusted to protect American democracy, while the GOP has shown they can’t be trusted to protect it.

Any civilian who considers themselves leftist that justifies supporting PAFACA by ignoring the ban provision and the First Amendment implications that this bill entails should recognize the precedent it sets for the government to dictate what communications platforms private citizens can have access to, even under national security claims, because that standard can easily be abused in the future if Trump/MAGA regain power, just as how autocrats in other countries use national security to justify restricting any civil liberty they want to destroy.

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That One Guy (profile) says:

'No fair, I want to be able to ban apps and speech I don't like!'

The more US politicians pull stunts like this the more they make crystal clear that to the extent that they might object to other governments controlling communications and/or the internet within their own cuontries it’s only because it’s other countries using those powers rather than them.

T.L. (profile) says:

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Adding to that point, the fact that the majority of House Democrats (including those like North Carolina’s Jeff Jackson that have TikTok accounts who got flamed accordingly when posting videos justifying their decision to support the PAFACA) supported the bill and Biden has indicated he will sign it if it passes undermines Democrats’ argument that they are pro-democracy.

It’s not a good look to co-sign on actions that impair constitutional speech rights when Republicans have turned on democracy, and throughout the country since Trump reshaped the GOP, have been more than willing to restrict freedoms (LGBTQ+ rights, reproductive rights, etc.). Dems already are subject to the false equivalence that they are no different than Republicans, the fact that all but 30 House Democrats approved a constitutionally problematic bill like PAFACA with all that it entails, alongside all but 15 Republicans, only furthers that narrative. Anyone who calls themselves leftist justifying this bill should know better than to agree with setting a precedent on civil liberties that can be abused in the future if Trump/MAGA regain control of the government.

BeerOnTap says:

The “personal data” issue is pretty much bullshit. And a ban is probably going to be blocked for 1st Amendment reasons. But the issue of the Chinese Government being able to shape public debate in the US through the TikTok algorithm is not a joke. Again, the 1st Amendment probably means the US Government cannot stop it, just like the USG could not shut down The Daily Worker during the Cold War. I suspect the big difference in pro-Palestinian content on TikTok after Oct 7, compared to the prevalence on the other major social media platforms, is having a big impact on the Hill. That’s not a “China” issue, but an issue where the CCP has a different view than the USG and the issue causes political problems in the US.

Bookerdog says:

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No one on the hill will ever say it, but it is the uncontrolled populism of TikTok that has them terrified. It is not the Chinese Government shaping public debate, it is really smart, connected individuals making logical, supported arguments. These individual Americans tend to look askance at every press release or utterance of a legislator as silly fluff at best or complete misinformation at worst. The press almost always accepts that blather at face value. TikTok does not. (Also, this is the reason that arguments that “China” somehow manipulates Americans in this way is just preposterous)

JMT (profile) says:

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But the issue of the Chinese Government being able to shape public debate in the US through the TikTok algorithm is not a joke.

But thinking that banning TikTok would prevent that is a joke. The Russians certainly didn’t need a locally-owned SM platform to shape public debate in the US.

And that doesn’t address the glaring issue that there’s still no credible evidence that this has even happened. Are we really just going to be satisfied that the accusations are true even if they’re apparently unprovable? The options are either lies or incompetence.

Anonymous Coward says:

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But thinking that banning TikTok would prevent that is a joke. The Russians certainly didn’t need a locally-owned SM platform to shape public debate in the US.

The former Soviet Union trained saboteurs and let their South American “allies” use those rained agents to do some rather heinous damage to the States.

Russia and China not only have their propaganda entities, but they even have BASES inside of the US. China has their “Confucius Institutes” and well, Russia has 74 million “willing” agents of destruction…

Anonymous Coward says:

The unconditional part of it is that the law let’s the presidentban any website he does not like.

Of that that is easily circumvented.

I am already looking at buying property in Mexico and then placing a computer there with my own private VPN on it, so ican circumvent that.

Since I wouid be using my own VPN in my Mexican bare home I would fly under the radar

Also, a home computer in Mexico is not subject to American laws.

Neither this Bill nor any any other law makes it a crime to do that.

I woukd want to have a hole close enough to California I could drive to 12 hours or less, so I could drive down there and do maintenance on it as needed and then stop at Disneyland on the way back

Annual passes are coming back and I will be able to get one for $1695.

Anonymous Coward says:

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Having it on a home computer abroad will make it fly under the radar.

Even if they should ban commercial VPN services the protocol itself cannot be banned because businesses cannot operate without VPN.

Using something other than a colo, it wouid fjy under the radar

This why Italy’s piracy shield will not work on home computers outside the country because a private home computer outside Italy is not subject to Italian law

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Matthew M Bennett says:

This bill is very different than last year's, and it's constitutional

Daily reminder that MM is not a lawyer and does not understand constitutional issues very well.

It’s not first a first amendment issue, as nothing in the bill addresses the content on Tiktok. (The law will be challenged based on that, of course, but they won’t really have a leg to stand on)

It’s not a bill of Attainder, as it’s not targeting Tiktok specifically.

The bill is based around it being owned by a hostile power (something that is already defined in law, btw). It’s worth noting that this bill is much tightly written than the law that was voted down a year ago.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/why-the-arguments-against-the-house-tiktok-bill-dont-survive-contact-with-reality/

It’s worth nothing a VERY similar situation came up with Gridr, where the concern was principally about it being used for selective blackmail. CCP was forced to sell.

To date no one has shown an actual evidence of TikTok being dangerous.

This is completely untrue, arguably a lie. It has shown VERY willing to use this platform both to spy but more importantly to sway public opinion.

Meanwhile, there’s little to no evidence that China is “manipulating” sentiment with TikTok

There is direct evidence of EXACTLY that and I have shown it to you.

https://time.com/6836078/tiktok-sold-banned-2024-election/

The US has dealt with foreign propaganda for ages.

Yeah and y’all (not you MM, so yay) freaked out about it during the 2016 election. If it was just posting shitpost memes on FB (they almost certainly do that), that’d be one thing. The clearest example I’ve heard is letting Russia buy like NBC or something (One of the big 3 networks) during the 70’s. We just wouldn’t have allowed that, period.

CCP ownership of CCP is CLEARLY dangerous. The bill HAS been written in a way to pass constitutional muster. TikTok HAS, VERY CLEARLY filtered and muted subject the CCP is sensitive about, ALREADY, in the US. No it’s NOT just the same as regular propaganda.

And ironically, you’re perfectly OK with the federal government censoring by proxy under normal circumstances.

It’s not just that your opinion is wrong (fine, whatever) but you seem intent on LYING in service of that wrong opinion. It’s so bad that yeah, it’s gets into “who is paying” you territory.

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Strawb (profile) says:

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Daily reminder that MM is not a lawyer and does not understand constitutional issues very well.

Said the non-lawyer who doesn’t understand anything very well.

For someone who throws a hissy fit whenever there’s the slightest hint of government censorship, you’re weirdly cool with this literal government censorship.

But I guess your fixation with Masnick means that you’re psychologically forced to be in favour of something that he’s against.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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However, one YouTube video that came in while I was going to sleep warned this will allow the government to ban any website it does not like. That is what makes this bill bad

That is why it you can buy a home abroad and keep a computer there where you can set up your own private VPN, do it

Like I said, I am already looking at Mexico for that, most likely a condominium, as I wouid not need something big, just something where I could keep a computer there for that purpose

I wouid most likely go for a condo in Tijuana or Ensenada where high speed Internet is available.

And you folks in Utah who want to bypass age verification might want to consider buying a condo down there and keeping a computer there. You can drive to Tijuana or ensenada via I-15 and I-5 in as little as two days.

And it does not matter if Utah criminalizes circumventionm

A home computer in Mexico is not subject to American laws. Only Mexican laws apply, so.no us court can subpoena a computer in a condo in Tijuana or Ensenada

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Matthew M Bennett says:

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However, one YouTube video that came in while I was going to sleep warned this will allow the government to ban any website it does not like.

The bill a year ago did that. THis is much more tightly written. It pretty much has to be a company owned by China, Russia, Iran, NK (one other I forget which) but it’s actually very limited and specific.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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It’s not first a first amendment issue, as nothing in the bill addresses the content on Tiktok.

You contradict yourself later.

TikTok HAS, VERY CLEARLY filtered and muted subject the CCP is sensitive about, ALREADY, in the US. No it’s NOT just the same as regular propaganda.

Propaganda? You mean that the proposed law addresses the content on TikTok?

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Matthew M Bennett says:

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You contradict yourself later.

I do not.

Propaganda? You mean that the proposed law addresses the content on TikTok?

Ah, I see. You just can’t read. No, it doesn’t, actually. I was contradicting Mike’s claim about it being harmless. It clearly isn’t, and yes, part of that is based around it’s content. BUt that’s not basis nor criteria for the law. THe criteria for the law is being owned by of 5 countries (there is a mechanism to amend that list, but certainly the current list seems sensible) and that has nothing to do with the content.

Having large information netowrks controlled by your existential enemies is really really bad, mmm’kay?

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Rocky says:

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The data can be used to track you, even when you think you are anonymous.

The data can be used by insurance companies to increase your premiums if they find something they think indicates a risky behavior or medical condition they don’t like.

The data can be used to track women visiting pregnancy centers.

The data can be used to make tailored “propaganda” that only targets a very small group of people.

The data can be used to guess your shopping history and adjust prices up because there’s a good chance you’ll still buy some items.

The data can be used by employers to keep track of what you are doing in your free time, which in turn may give them a reason to make something up so they can fire you.

The data can be used by hackers/black hats/foreign powers to target you for phishing etc to gain access to your bank, workplace’s IT-system or other things.

There are many more scenarios for using this data, the more benign are mostly about targeted advertising and such.

SpecSauce says:

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Fair points. But couldn’t a person do those things in real life? I can camp outside a pregnancy center with a camera or follow people around stores to see what they shop for. I could follow drivers and report on their habits to insurance companies. I could write all this down and sell it. While those behaviors might be personal, there is no expectation of privacy going out in public.

So to be clear, the problem with the data brokers is they do it at scale??

I don’t think you could outlaw a person or company reporting on public behavior in real life, and I think a good lawyer could argue the same about doing it at scale with technology (either through data brokers or following people in black helicopters).

I hate data brokers, but think that there might be some constitutional arguments to protect their model.

Rocky says:

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So to be clear, the problem with the data brokers is they do it at scale??

Yes. Sure, you can monitor someone “in real life” but the amount of time and resources needed are many magnitudes higher than buying up personal data for millions of people on the internet for next to nothing, and then correlate it to other data you have.

I don’t think you could outlaw a person or company reporting on public behavior in real life, and I think a good lawyer could argue the same about doing it at scale with technology (either through data brokers or following people in black helicopters).

The key here is “public behavior”, but most of the data gathered isn’t something that can be classified that way.

I hate data brokers, but think that there might be some constitutional arguments to protect their model.

The problem is what data they are brokering, not that they are brokers. For example, do you think it’s okay for them to sell “anonymized” information that can easily be correlated and reconstructed into data about a specific persons medical history for example? This entirely possible because the health-care institutions that sell “anonymized” data aren’t actually breaking Title II of HIPAA, the broker who sells this data on isn’t even covered by HIPAA and the buyer who combines the data from several sources to “de-anonymize” it isn’t covered either.

Anonymous Coward says:

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I can camp outside a pregnancy center with a camera or follow people around stores to see what they shop for. I could follow drivers and report on their habits to insurance companies. I could write all this down and sell it.

Unless you’re a private detective, the camping and following are harassment, which is illegal, making the data gathered through such activities also illicit.

Gary Sneeze says:

Republicans they are responsible for ruining the internet

Republicans now trying to ban TikTok, push unconstitutional kids safety bills. NEWS ALERT PORNHUB AND AFFILIATES JUST PULLED OUT OF TEXAS

https://twitter.com/josephfcox/status/1768345779746267434/photo/1

THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. RUINING THE FREE AND OPEN INTERNET EVERY DAY. REMEMBER THAT PEOPLE

Dune Boon (user link) says:

what you are not thinking about

You make excellent points about data privacy legislation as being key. To a certain extent, some states have helped fill the gap. See a link to California’s: https://oag.ca.gov/privacy/ccpa#:~:text=Right%20to%20limit%20use%20and,such%20as%20providing%20you%20with

Thus, companies doing business in California are subject to strict data protection rules. The next question to ask is whether Tiktok is actually complying with California’s data privacy law. Given the difficulty in doing so, I imagine they are not (or not fully in compliance) and a big question is where the data is stored. It is not clear that Tiktok complies with the EU GDPR even after significant fines. https://iapp.org/news/a/european-commission-to-investigate-tiktok-over-potential-dsa-violations/

While I agree data privacy legislation is key, it is not clear that it alone would solve the issue. Algorithms are the key to individuals. It is how Tiktok was able to mobilize millions of its users to inundate Congress against the proposed law. While you make a good argument, you fail to take this into account.

However, while you focus on a key matter, you miss the bigger issue. This allows China to immediately and more easily collect user data at a profit (rather than buying it on the market), including about likes and preferences which are much harder to get from other bundled data. Most importantly, it helps to further train their algorithms in a way to outcompete US MNCs. You mention that we should let the market decide. However, China itself has a fully controlled society which allows them an uncompetitive advantage in developing algorithms. This unfair advantage extends to their algorithms targeting US persons. This is not really a free speech issue. It is a national security one – not because of the data but because China’s technology is catching up – or surpassing American technology.

One last point, it would be good if you looked to the UK after it repealed its Corn Laws to allow lower tariffs from other countries. The idea was that by lowering tariffs (without a corresponding lowering of tariffs from its trade partners) would result in cheaper inputs of raw materials thereby improving the competitiveness of its industry. The reality was the opposite. Non-UK countries developed their own industry, kept high tariffs on imports and outcompeted the UK nearly destroying its industry by the 1920s. Allowing free trade – including via industries that depend on advertising by collecting individuals’ data and preferences – without requiring it from your competitors is a recipe for disaster. The United States has already fallen behind in many metrics (e.g., a languished manufacturing base). Failure to act to protect its own industries when that is exactly what China does would only be foolish. China does not allow American technology companies to work freely in China. The United States cannot make the same mistake as Britain when Britain was at the height of its power.

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