Funniest/Most Insightful Comments Of The Week At Techdirt

from the speak-up dept

This week, our first place winner on the insightful side is a simple response to an attempt to defend Elon Musk’s reinstatement of an account that posted CSAM, on the basis of the motivations for posting:

I hate to tell you this, but legally speaking the intent doesn’t matter – even if it was done to condemn it, it is still very much illegal to post. This is a matter that’s literally been discussed in rulings on cases where people shared material for reasons that aren’t meant to be titillating.

In second place, it’s Stephen T. Stone with an even more robust response to that notion, taking it apart piece by piece:

One account, that may or may not have actually uploaded kiddie porn, and if did so very definitely did so to shame the pedos in question.

Whether they’re trying to “shame pedos” is ultimately irrelevant to the fact that they posted CSAM (or links to it). How do you even need that shit explained to you? Also, the fact that the account was unsuspended⁠—presumably on orders from Elon Musk, if not by Musk himself⁠—after posting CSAM (or links to it) sends an implicit message: Anyone Musk likes can break even the one rule that every other social media service agrees is The Line That Can’t Be Crossed and not be punished for it. (See also: Kanye West’s recent return to X-Twitter, also presumably on orders from or by direct action of Musk.)

As allowed under the policy

If X-Twitter actually allows people to post/link to actual CSAM without punishment so long as they justify that act with “I was trying to shame pedos”, that says a lot about X-Twitter. Not a single syllable of what that says is good.

So some of the notoriously lefty mods of reddit made a political virtue signal?

Prove the mods of r/law are all “lefties”. And even if this is a virtue signal: What, you’d rather they vice signal like you by being a complete asshole?

This is what you’re writing a post about?

His site, his choice in content. Don’t like it? Door’s to your left.

You are a liar.

You literally tried to justify someone posting/linking to actual CSAM. You don’t get to high-road anyone when you’re already in Hell.

For editor’s choice on the insightful side, we start out with a comment from Gregory Maxwell about the suicide of Backpage executive Jim Larkin:

Lets not forget whose ambition this prosecution served.

Being dragged through court is no less a threat to you welfare than being robbed at gunpoint. Yet it occurs in slow motion with everyone watching, often unable to help including the institutions that you thought were tasked with protecting you. And when it’s all over and you’re vindicated, assuming you make it to the other side, that’s it. There is no compensation, no recovery, no justice. In a civil suit you might get some of you direct costs reimbursed, but nothing for your time and sanity.

We created our courts and their procedures our prosecutors, — the process is something we built, not a force of nature. We ought to take more responsibility for it and not let it be used for malice or ambition.

Next, it’s ke9tv with a comment about the state of copyright after an academic book about emojis was prevented from including the emojis it talks about:

Copyright is no longer about protecting intellectual property from plagiarism. It’s about publishers with deep pockets using their money to purchase the power of imprimatur. No piece of information, fragment of text, or work of art shall appear without their blessing.

Over on the funny side, our first place winner is DJ with a comment about the New York Times profile of Mike:

What you should have done is post a very angry article here decrying it as a hit piece asking people to ignore it and see if you could have Streisand effect it to an even bigger audience.

In second place, it’s Stephen T. Stone with a comment about the legal subreddit that banned all links to ExTwitter due to the safety risk:

With all due respect and love for the original tweet…

Elon Musk: [destroys 15 years’ worth of brand recognition for an attempted “take that” aimed at Peter Thiel]

Musk fanboys: Masterful gambit, sir.

For editor’s choice on the funny side, we’ve got two anonymous comments about the New York Times profile, and specifically the offhand line about the dated design of Techdirt. First, it’s a list of suggestions:

I guess Techdirt could get closer to modern media standards if it

  • included a 10 MB CSS file download, that wasn’t ever referenced, with every page
  • had non-optional audio playing while the front page was open
  • inserted advertisements every 3 paragraphs
  • used AI to generate every 7th article and posted it without human editing, and without any telltale notes or bylines.

I mean, it’s turn the place to S**t, but it’d look more like a “modern media site”.

Next, it’s another user who chimed in with some more ideas:

Some more notes:
multi page posts
“click here to continue reading”
checking that javascript is enabled before the page loads or completely breaking the site without javascript
the RSS feed is too easy to find

That’s all for this week, folks!


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Rico R. (profile) says:

“click here to continue reading”

To be fair, the front page already has that in the form of the expand and collapse button. Maybe it would be closer to modern media sites if the front page only had the headlines and maybe a photo relevant to the story, and you actually had to click on the headline to read the story. And maybe enable endless scrolling on the front page while you’re at it!

IanW (profile) says:

Get unlimited access to all of Techdirt ...

I wonder why I never see that message,

“Get unlimited access to all of Techdirt” ?

Oh, that’s right, @Mike hasn’t had time to redesign the site to implement a paywall, drive up the costs of hosting his content and restricting access to his information, insights and opinions, so no need for that pop-up.

ps: Let’s not forget Techdirt did “upgrade its platform” just over a year ago (which freaked a lot of people out, evidently without reason), plus a few more times since the 90’s, all for the better!

Now, if he could only convince a Supreme Court Justice to pen an opinion column like some other old NY rag did …

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Anonymous Coward says:

TechDirt is truly pathetic. You pat yourself on the back for thinking that it’s OK to ban links to X because of a single instance of someone who posted child pornography for supposedly non-prurient reasons and was unbanned, while at the same time being sympathetic to Backpage, which, guess what, hosted instances of child sex trafficking: https://nypost.com/2022/01/10/survivors-detail-sex-trafficking-ordeals-while-hired-out-on-backpage/

It is abundantly clear, over and over again, that TechDirt hates Musk because Musk refuses to censor viewpoints that TechDirt hates. If Backpage had refused to host ads for trans hookers, you would see just as much hatred for them from TechDirt.

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David says:

Re: Re:

Evolution would like to have a word with you. Weeds will win over crops every day without interference. Civilization is actually fighting evolution which has a penchant for bullies, rapists and murderers and is greatly fond of racism and other forms of active discrimination of genetically anchored phenotypes.

Evolution turns us into better animals in the course of millennia. Education turns is into better humans in the course of decades, and civilization in the course of centuries.

Evolution would have trouble keeping up without influx from countries with high reproduction and mortality rates where the life of humans does not count a lot over the life of animals.

So no, evolution will not get us rid of racism. Only education will, and you need to cover every individual anew instead of relying on innate goodness.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:

You must be new here. The commenter to whom you are replying says things like this often, in a generally vain attempt to elicit some form of response. His posts are always content-free and are best ignored. Once you have read this site for a while, you will come to recognize the many commenters here who offer such content-free responses. (I myself, of course, am always wise and perspicacious.)

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Anonymous Coward says:

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TechDirt is truly pathetic. You pat yourself on the back for thinking that it’s OK to ban links to X because of a single instance of someone who posted child pornography for supposedly non-prurient reasons and was unbanned

How to know that you are full of shit, one just have to read what Mike actually wrote:

I’m not sure it’s reasonable to ban any news article that merely links to or embeds a tweet, but it’s certainly interesting to see how this subreddit, in particular, is handling the increasing liability that Twitter (er… Ex-Twitter) has become.

I should also add that anyone defending the posting of CSAM/CP, for whatever reason, is also defending pedophilia in extension. Way to go, pedophile.

It is abundantly clear, over and over again, that TechDirt hates Musk because Musk refuses to censor viewpoints that TechDirt hates.

A lot of people dislike or even hate stupidity and hypocrisy, that just a fact of life. Others, like those defending Musk, can’t stop themselves from wallowing in it – like you are doing.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Re:

It is more a case of banning links to a site that has signaled the child porn is acceptable by restoring that an account that posted extreme child pornography. That makes it reasonable to assume that the site is not going to remove material that almost all people do not want to see.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:

the material in question was, in fact, removed

The user wasn’t, though. They were allowed to keep their account. On literally any other social media service, that user would be permabanned and likely reported to the authorities. And if you’re going to say “they were only posting CSAM to shame pedos” or offer some other excuse to justify someone posting an image of a child being raped on social media?

Don’t.

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As says:

Re: Re: Re:2

As I said, Backpage contained advertisements for underage prostitutes, but TechDirt has consistently argued (correctly) that this should not have resulted in Backpage being shut down. You may believe that the motive for what the X user did is irrelevant, and even the law may regard it as irrelevant, but the owner of X is not required to conform to your beliefs, and no law required that site owners must ban users.

The reason you attack the owner of X is because that large generic speech platform once censored viewpoints you hate, and now it does not.

As always, your use of fonts, colors, and text size does not increase the merit of your arguments.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:3

Backpage contained advertisements for underage prostitutes, but TechDirt has consistently argued (correctly) that this should not have resulted in Backpage being shut down

Okay, and…so what? None of that changes the fact that X-Twitter allowed a user who posted CSAM to retain their account after doing so. If Elon Musk didn’t personally unban the user, the order to do so had to have come from him. Did you think agreeing with the fact that Backpage is being railroaded by the government was going to earn you enough merit to make me ignore the rest of your comment?

You may believe that the motive for what the X user did is irrelevant, and even the law may regard it as irrelevant, but the owner of X is not required to conform to your beliefs

Dude. Are you literally trying to justify Musk ordering (or doing) the unbanning of someone who⁠—and I want to be clear about this⁠—uploaded an image of a small child being raped to X-Twitter as a fight against “censorship” or “wokeism” or some other empty right-wing catchphrase? Because if you are, you’re literally trying to justify X-Twitter allowing child sex abuse material to be posted without the most severe of consequences (so long as the owner of X-Twitter likes you).

The reason you attack the owner of X is because that large generic speech platform once censored viewpoints you hate, and now it does not.

Dude, I could not care less about Musk being a right-wing dipshit who’s turning the site into a right-wing shitpit because he thought he was gonna roll the world and the world rolled him because he ain’t the sharpest tool in the shed. I don’t even use Twitter these days, save for checking on a few accounts. If Elon wants to welcome Nazis and their ilk, whatever⁠—I care more about the artists whose livelihoods stand to be ruined by X-Twitter becoming a shitpit than I do about Musk deciding to be the billionaire eqiuvalent of noted incurious dipshit Joe Rogan.

But if you truly, actually, literally want to pass off “CSAM is morally and ethically heinous in addition to being highly fucking illegal in the country in which X-Twitter is primarily incorporated” as a “viewpoint” that Musk can decide to ignore? That means you’re actively trying to justify the consequence-free posting of an image of A YOUNG CHILD BEING SEXUALLY ABUSED on X-Twitter as a “difference of opinion”.

I think even you aren’t so far gone into your perma-contrarian trolling that you’re willing to defend the practically consequence-free posting of CSAM as “owning the libs and the woke”. And if you are…well, I’m an atheist, and even I think you would need to ask God for far more forgiveness and mercy than you deserve.

Also: You’re not going to win this argument by trying to claim the X-Twitter/CSAM situation is even remotely analogous to the Backpage situation, so don’t bother trying with that. If you really need the difference explained to you, you’re so far beyond lost that Mike may as well report you to the feds for suspected ownership/distribution of CSAM. After all, the only people willing to seriously defend the posting of CSAM on X-Twitter are the people who actually post CSAM on X-Twitter.

That One Guy (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:4 Kinda giving away what those 'conservative viewpoints' include again...

The strident defense of Elon reinstating an account that posted CSAM, along with defending the person who posted it has made all-too horrifyingly clear that other that perhaps being struck by lightning and becoming a good person overnight there is nothing that Elon fanatics will not defend him over.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:4

As far as I know, the user who posted that image was trying to make some point about child pornography and had nothing to do with the creation of the image. X removed that image.

It may be your opinion that there can be no justification for ever showing such an image, but of course you are wrong. For example, should the government decide to prosecute that user, the image would be shown in court to the judge, lawyers, and jury.

It is up to X to decide, if it so wishes, that the motive for showing that image is such that banning the user is unnecessary. There is no law that requires that such a user be banned. You appear to know who that user is and what image he posted. Have you tried to report him to the authorities? What did they say?

Regardless of any of this, the notion that this one incident justifies a ban on any links to posts on X is ludicrous. Such a ban is clearly based on animus towards the owner of X by liberals furious that X is no longer providing censorship of viewpoints they hate. The animus has been present from the moment Musk began complaining how Twitter was depriving its users of free speech and reached a boiling point when Twitter revealed communications from the government requesting censorship. It reveals itself in the endless litany of posts here and elsewhere attacking Musk.

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Rocky says:

Re: Re: Re:5

I see that you conveniently ignored that posting child porn is illegal regardless what the motivation was.

It may be your opinion that there can be no justification for ever showing such an image, but of course you are wrong. For example, should the government decide to prosecute that user, the image would be shown in court to the judge, lawyers, and jury.

If you aren’t aware, publicly posting child porn isn’t remotely the same thing as presenting evidence by the prosecution – the latter is highly controlled plus the fact that it’s done with the help of mental health professionals and all parties are prepared before viewing the material.

Only a person who is particularly stupid makes the argument you just did, someone who actually defends publicly posting child porn because “the reason is something I approve of”.

So how about you fuck off, defender of child porn.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:6

There is no requirement that a site ban a user who has posted illegal material, say a copyrighted image or sing or text to which the poster has no rights. They simply need to remove the material.

In the case of the child pornography post, X removed the material, and then chose to unban the user, presumably because they believed his motive for making the post was not worthy of a ban. Apparently this user is well-known; if law enforcement is interested in punishing him for his post, they can do so. If you like, you can help them out by reporting this crime to them.

In no way does this case imply that X supports or tolerates the posting of child pornography on its site. Such implication comes solely from liberals who are furious at Musk for depriving them of the censorship of viewpoints that they hate.

That One Guy (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:8

watching you continuing to defend child porn on twitter is just sad

It’s certainly something when a person is so dedicated to defending a person/platform that they’re willing to defend a user who posted heinous-even-for-CSAM CSAM and the platform/person who after they did that decided that they wanted the poster to stay on the site but ‘sad’ might be underselling it just a tad.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:7

There is no requirement that a site ban a user who has posted illegal material

A site that refuses to ban someone who posts CSAM will put itself in greater legal jeopardy⁠—and worsen its perception with the general public. A decent person would likely expect a service the size of X-Twitter to have issues with CSAM, but would also likely trust that service to handle it like any other service of a similar size: Delete the content, ban the user, and file a report with the feds. That same person would probably take issue with Twitter only doing the first action on that list because only doing that first action sends an implicit message: “You can get away with posting pictures/video of child rape on this platform.”

they believed his motive for making the post was not worthy of a ban

No possible motive could ever justify⁠—morally, ethically, and legally⁠—someone posting CSAM on X-Twitter. Most of the shitpits like 4chan, teeming as they are with hatred and bigotry and juvenile trolling, don’t offer any quarter for CSAM posters. Any attempt to offer any sort of justification for posting CSAM anywhere is an attempt to justify the creation and distribution of CSAM. I’d like to think even you are unwilling to justify literal child rape, but you’ve taught everyone here to think you’re not above doing even that.

In no way does this case imply that X supports or tolerates the posting of child pornography on its site.

It kind of does, though.

When I was a Twitter user, I once got into an argument with an anti-queer dipshit. As part of that argument, I deployed an anti-queer slur as part of a comeback to that dipshit’s own anti-queer argument. My motive was to lay bare the logic of their thinking in the starkest and most direct possible way. Twitter still dinged me for the usage of the F-word because using it went against TOS. “Cool motive, still murder”, as the Brooklyn 9-9 quote goes.

Now consider the case at hand. The user who posted CSAM (and was subsequently banned for it) was later unbanned, via either dictate to X-Twitter employees or direct action, by Elon Musk. Even if Elon wants to say “X doesn’t tolerate child porn”, his actions let off the hook someone who posted CSAM on X-Twitter⁠—an act that, up until it happened, was nigh unthinkable.

X-Twitter’s own rules and policies on CSAM say this (emphasis theirs):

We have a zero-tolerance child sexual exploitation policy on X.

X has zero tolerance towards any material that features or promotes child sexual exploitation, one of the most serious violations of the Our Rules. This may include media, text, illustrated, or computer-generated images. Regardless of the intent, viewing, sharing, or linking to child sexual exploitation material contributes to the re-victimization of the depicted children. This also applies to content that may further contribute to victimization of children through the promotion or glorification of child sexual exploitation.

… In the majority of cases, the consequence for violating our child sexual exploitation policy is immediate and permanent suspension. In addition, violators will be prohibited from creating any new accounts in the future. Note: when we’re made aware of content depicting or promoting child sexual exploitation, including links to third party sites where this content can be accessed, they will be removed without further notice and reported to the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children (NCMEC).

Now, that sounds all well and good. But then X-Twitter immediately undermines itself with this:

In a limited number of situations, where we haven’t identified any malicious intent, we will require you to remove this content. We will also temporarily lock you out of your account before you can Post again. Further violations will lead to your account being permanently suspended. If you believe that your account was suspended in error, you can submit an appeal.

Therein lies the problem: X-Twitter implies that a context exists in which posting CSAM can be something akin to an “innocent mistake”. But to post CSAM, one has to possess CSAM, and other than a “teenagers sending each other nude selfies” situation or a law enforcement action⁠—which are the only possible and at least somewhat excusable contexts for this, a fact that I willingly grant⁠—no one can “accidentally” post CSAM without “malicious intent” because the intent of posting CSAM is to distribute CSAM.

The user in this situation posted CSAM to, in the words of another commenter from an earlier article, “shame pedos”. Cool motive, still sharing child porn. That Elon Musk apparently believed this instance of someone posting CSAM was worth rescinding the “zero tolerance” punishment for such an act undercuts the idea that X-Twtter has “zero tolerance” for people who post CSAM. The average person would probably agree with this statement: “X-Twitter has a CSAM problem that can’t be fully solved but could at least be effectively mitigated”. But Elon Musk himself allowed someone to escape that “zero tolerance” punishment without any reasonable justification. How can the average person expect X-Twitter to mitigate its CSAM problem when the owner of X-Twitter personally allows someone to effectively escape all consequences for posting CSAM?

That One Guy (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:8

The user in this situation posted CSAM to, in the words of another commenter from an earlier article, “shame pedos”. Cool motive, still sharing child porn

Setting aside how that argument would allow anyone to post CSAM and escape consequences by claiming that they were doing it for ‘good’ reasons(and likewise just so happen to have the pics/videos in question for ‘good’ reasons) posting CSAM to ‘shame pedos’ strikes me as like beating an innocent person to the point of an emergency room visit to ‘shame violent people’. You’re doing the very thing you claim is bad, that’s not shaming them it’s showing support of their actions.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:9

Oh, cool, it gets worse:

“One of the challenges we see is, for example, people sharing this content out of outrage because they want to raise awareness of an issue and see something in the media,” Pickles testified, according to an audio livestream.

“So if there are circumstances where someone shares content but, under review, we decide the appropriate remediation is to remove the content but not the user,” Pickles continued.

There’s nothing in the X terms of service that says it’s okay to share child sexual abuse material if a user is doing it because they’re outraged over the images or looking to “raise awareness.” It’s generally understood that sharing child sex abuse materials, regardless of intent, is not only a federal crime in the U.S. and Australia, but re-victimizes the child.

So, to be clear: Elon Musk himself confirmed that he had X-Twitter unban a user who posted one of the worst CSAM images ever, then had one of his employees try to justify that unbanning in front of an actual government body (in Australia, but still) by saying “oh, they were outraged by this, so that makes it okay”.

I can’t even begin to find the words to say how fucked up this is.

That One Guy (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:10

Bloody hell, for the sake of however many non-monstrous people are still using Xitter I hope that little tidbit doesn’t go public, he just basically screamed to the sky that anyone that wants to post CSAM on the site should feel free to do so so long as they remember to claim that they’re doing so to ‘raise awareness’. More horrifyingly it certainly sounds like this latest event was not the first time they’ve given a pass to CSAM, just the latest and most public one.

Being far more generous than I think is warranted this has been shaping up as a huge example of what you get when the boss makes a terrible mistake and cannot admit it, less generous Xitter’s new boss and the handful of people desperate or depraved enough to keeping working for him are showing what they really do and do not mind seeing on the platform.

That One Guy (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:2

It takes a special kind of stupid and/or hypocritical to defend a platform and/or it’s owner that reinstated(and therefore gave approval to/for) someone that was known to have posted CSAM and then turn around and try to vilify a platform that wasn’t perfect in catching every instance of similar content despite going above and beyond in working with law enforcement.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:

Doesn’t matter.

The fact that it was posted AND Musk reinstating the account means that it’s extremely dangerous to actually use the site.

The sort of usage that will actually get the FBI or other local police authority visit YOU.

If that’s the hill you want to die on, just because you hate private property laws, free expression AND the right to associate with whoever the fuck I like…

I’ll see YOU in Hell. Once the NeoNazis are done murdering us, YOU’RE NEXT.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:2

The same might be said for using the internet as a whole, or for crossing the street.

You are engaging in the typical “think of the children” excuse to attack someone you don’t like. It’s the sort of thing that TechDirt would normally decry, but since TechDirt hates Musk for depriving it of the private-party censorship it so loved, it is happy to pile on to that nonsense.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:3

You are engaging in the typical “think of the children” excuse to attack someone you don’t like.

When someone actually posts child-porn, “think of the children” is very much fucking relevant – it doesn’t matter who fucking posted it.

it is happy to pile on to that nonsense.

How fucked up in the head do you have to be to trivialize child porn? To defend it being posted? To defend the one posting it?

I do hope you get what you deserve you fucking child porn apologist, and I hope it hurts.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:5

Pictures of awful things are not themselves intrinsically awful when displayed.

Pictures that document the atrocities of war exist in a vastly different context than pictures that document children⁠—toddlers, even⁠—being raped. You are literally trying to defend CSAM and it only ever makes you look bad.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:6

You say that because you are looking for an excuse to lash out at Musk, because he refuses to provide the third-party censorship of viewpoints you hate.

In fact, it is perfectly plausible that someone thinks insufficient attention is being paid to children being abused (viz., the appeal to conservatives of the Sound of Freedom movie) and thinks that posting such an image is a way to increase that attention, just as people thought insufficient attention was being paid to the damage being wrought by the war in Vietnam. Whether that person is right, whether his actions are legal, and whether he should be banned by a platform are all separate issues, to be determined by the various stakeholders. Your shouting “Unclean! Unclean!” does not require that anyone listen to you.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:7

You say that because you are looking for an excuse to lash out at Musk

If Mark Zuckerberg did the same thing on Threads that Elon Musk did on Twitter, I’d be levelling the exact same criticisms at Zuck/Threads. “Outrage” is not now, and will never be, a justification for sharing photos of a toddler being raped⁠—and that stance is platform agnostic.

it is perfectly plausible that someone thinks insufficient attention is being paid to children being abused … and thinks that posting such an image is a way to increase that attention

To put it bluntly: Such a person would be a fucking moron. Sharing CSAM to “draw attention to” the sexual abuse of children is the exact same act as sharing CSAM with other child rapists. “Cool motive, still murder sharing child porn.”

Whether that person is right, whether his actions are legal, and whether he should be banned by a platform are all separate issues

They’re not, though. Any platform worth a shit would do everything it could to keep its metaphorical ass out of a legal (and public relations) fire by permabanning anyone who shares CSAM. Distributing CSAM on social media in the United States is a crime regardless of motive. And no moral or ethical argument exists that would justify sharing on social media actual photos of⁠—and I’m going to emphasize this again so you can understand exactly what you and you alone are arguing in favor of⁠—a toddler being sexually assaulted by a grown adult.

I want you to consider this sentence: “Hyman Rosen is trying to defend Elon Musk for refusing to punish someone who posted a picture of a toddler being raped.” If you really can’t figure out why that’s wrong, Hyman, you have bigger problems than being a fatally online contrarian troll.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:8

It is precisely the awfulness of such a picture that might make someone decide to post it in order to motivate readers to take some action against the activity in the picture, if they thought that insufficient attention was being paid. People often do unwise and illegal things to draw attention to causes they support, and pictures of awful and illegal things happening are very often newsworthy. You can easily find photos online of murdered victims of the Rwandan genocide, for example, not to mention the Holocaust. Or stores being looted in liberal-run cities by members of liberals’ favored victim groups.

You are using the fact that child pornography is illegal to try to disparage Elon Musk, because Elon Musk has chosen to stop the third-party censorship of viewpoints you hate.

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