Add Elon’s Buddy Larry Ellison To The Creditors List Of Those That Twitter Is Refusing To Pay

from the get-in-line dept

We already knew that Twitter had stopped paying its cloud computing bills from Google and Amazon as Elon continues his “pursuit of profitability” that he himself destroyed in Twitter (remember, Twitter was profitable in 16 of the previous 20 quarters before Elon took over at a much higher run rate, before Elon drove away somewhere around half of the advertising revenue of the company while simultaneously saddling it with massive debt). I may not be a massively successful business man, but I’m having trouble with the business logic of driving away half of revenue for no clear reason, while increasing the company’s expenses through unnecessary debt financing, combined with trying to make up the difference by breaching contracts left and right.

Apparently one of new CEO Linda Yaccarino’s first orders of business was to call up Thomas Kurian, who runs Google Cloud, and promise to start paying the bills again (and hopefully get Google to spend more on Twitter ads and maybe a licensing deal on the newly expensive API).

Either way, apparently Google and Amazon aren’t the only cloud providers Elon stiffed: the latest news is that they’re not paying their Oracle cloud bill.

Representatives for Oracle have started directly calling current and former Twitter employees in an attempt to collect on past-due invoices well into the six-figure range, the people said. Oracle has for several years provided Twitter with data-storage services, one of the people added.

Now, this one is particularly funny, given that Oracle founder (and chairman and CTO) Larry Ellison is a close friend of Musk’s and, somewhat famously, invested in Elon’s Twitter buyout. As you may recall, Ellison and Elon texted each other, with Larry basically promising to dump however much money into the Twitter buyout as Elon wanted, casually tossing off the idea of putting in $1 or $2 billion.

From the mockup we created after these actual texts were revealed in the Twitter purchase lawsuit:

In the end, it turned out that Ellison put in $1 billion (which is now valued at significantly less than that by basically everyone). I remember at the time, there was some talk of how this would be a business win for Oracle, who has desperately been trying to build up its cloud computing business which has definitely lagged the bigger name cloud computing companies (and even when it wins deals, like TikTok, those come from political connections rather than through standard business practices).

But instead of being a boon to Ellison’s Oracle, Musk has now set much of his billion dollars on fire, and is refusing to pay Oracle’s bills. It really raises serious questions about who would ever trust this guy in any future business deal ever. And will Yaccarino now have to have a call with Larry to “smooth things over” like she did with Kurian (notably: a former top Oracle exec) at Google?

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Anonymous Coward says:

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It would be terrible PR for Oracle if they were very publicly the reason Twitter went down, even if shutting off Twitter’s service was completely justified.

Musk would say Twitter was obviously going to pay the bill; and most customers don’t want their service shut off completely just because they’re late with one payment.

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James Burkhardt (profile) says:

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most customers don’t want their service shut off completely just because they’re late with one payment.

Months. Multiple. Its behind a paywall, but the source article’s headline indicates Twitter hasn’t been paying for “months”. The 6 months of non-payment for other services and rents is likely mirrored here.

Anonymous Coward says:

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It would be terrible PR for Oracle if they were very publicly the reason Twitter went down, even if shutting off Twitter’s service was completely justified.

So… two points.

1) Oracle hasn’t got the best PR to start with, what with the attempt to fuck Google over for Android and trying to plead the victim for $2 billion.

2) Given the current state of Twitter, if Oracle was the reason Twitter went down, most people would celebrate Oracle…

Michael says:

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umm…did you forget that Larry Ellison has $1bn invested in Twitter? His right had is stabbing his left hand, but he can’t just cut off the right hand.

If Elon was not a moron, I would suggest that this was a strategic move that he made right at the beginning. However, based on his other decisions of late, I would assume he simply stumbled into this while trying to look cool.

That One Guy (profile) says:

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That line of thinking only really holds if it costs nothing to keep providing service, however as it stands Oracle is just bleeding money(to the tune of six figures and rising) by continuing to work without pay, which makes it pretty clear ‘hey could you pay your bill?’ isn’t cutting it and more extreme steps can and should be taken.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:4

Ah, right. But the coal industry’s gotta be as full of assholes as Spaceball One, with many named Bob. I doubt even an average Techdirt reader or Oliver viewer could pick this Bob out of a lineup, give their surname or company name, or say what led to Oliver’s dietary suggestion.

Tanner Andrews (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:5 reasonable doubt

I doubt even an average Techdirt reader or Oliver viewer could pick this Bob out of a lineup

The doubt may be reasonable, but in fact Oliver was making fun of the appearance of ``Eat Shit” Bob. It got to the point of hurting his feelings by saying that he looked like a geriatric Dr. Evil. Bob even complained of the insult in his unsuccessful suit.

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That One Guy (profile) says:

From 'pretty please pay' to 'since you won't pay GET OUT'

At this point with all the services and people Elon refuses to pay it seems the only reason Twitter hasn’t completely collapsed is because no-one wants to be the first to pull the trigger and go from asking/threatening/demanding to get paid to full blown cutting Twitter off from the properties and/or services they’re not paying for.

Once the first company does that though I suspect it’ll cause an avalanche of others following suit and the crash will happen shockingly fast.

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Matthew M Bennett says:

No, Twitter wasn't profitable.

It in fact lost something like a billion dollars over the last 10 years.

remember, Twitter was profitable in 16 of the previous 20 quarters

This is an actually meaningless statement. It’s classic cherry picking to make a stat look good that is not. It’s dumb that you ever used it, it’ extra dumb that you KEEP on using it despite it’s inanity being pointed out, and it’s an indictment on your readership that basically no one else calls you out on it.

Are you dumb, or do you just think the rest of us are that you keep on citing this? Twitter has been losing money for a long time. It in fact lost money in the last 20 quaters, pre-musk. Citing that the loses were clustered doesn’t change any of that.

his “pursuit of profitability” that he himself destroyed in Twitter

Except no, again, Twitter was losing money. Which you don’t even contest, you just try to disguise. This is pathetic.

You may now continue to post petty gossip about Musk as if it matters.

I understand, he took away your favorite “Trust and Safety”: (meaning censorship) regime.

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