New DeSantis-Endorsed Florida Bill An Outright Attack On The 1st Amendment And Free Speech

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Florida governor Ron DeSantis likes to proclaim himself a defender of free speech, but time and time again he’s looked to stifle, suppress, and silence speech. He’s done it with his social media bill that limits the 1st Amendment rights of social media sites, with his Stop WOKE Act which literally bars speech, and with his various retaliation bills against Disney for daring to criticize him. And a few weeks ago he made it clear that he wanted to undermine a core bedrock 1st Amendment Supreme Court case, arguing that the finding in NY Times v. Sullivan should be done away with. We’ve already explained why that ruling is so important, because without it, powerful politicians like DeSantis would be able to constantly tie up critics in court with SLAPP suits.

Of course, a state can’t ignore the Supreme Court, but this is Florida, where anything goes. So, a DeSantis loyalist in the Florida legislature, Alex Andrade, introduced a bill to undermine decades of free speech-protecting defamation law last week (directly in response to DeSantis’ requests for such a bill). Apparently, someone pulled him aside and told him his initial bill wasn’t censorial enough, as he withdrew it the next day and introduced an even dumber, more censorial bill, HB 991.

This bill is a full frontal attack on the 1st Amendment. It specifically calls out “professional journalists” and “media entities” saying that they no longer get journalist’s privilege (which is what protects journalists from having to reveal their sources — so basically an attack on whistleblowers who go to the press), it has a sort of reverse anti-SLAPP in that plaintiffs can recover attorney’s fees from defendants, limits who can be considered a public figure (which would take them away from the Sullivan standard, towards a much lower standard), and then has some confused nonsense about “defamation per se” complete with statutory damages. It also includes an out-and-out attack on the 1st Amendment’s protection of anonymous speech by saying that anything from an anonymous source “is presumptively false.” And, finally, it simply tries to say that NY Times v. Sullivan no longer applies to public figures, in that they do “not need to show actual malice to prevail in defamation” claims.

Much of this is… pretty blatantly unconstitutional. It literally is the state of Florida saying that the 1st Amendment standards set out by the Supreme Court shouldn’t apply in Florida. Even if you disagree with the the Supreme Court’s ruling in NYT v. Sullivan (and you shouldn’t, because it’s been a huge boon to freedom of expression and the ability to hold the powerful accountable), you should recognize that a state can’t just ignore it.

There’s a lot of other nonsense in the bill as well, much of it seems explicitly designed as attacks on the media and free expression. For example, another part of the bill would remove the fee shifting aspects of Florida’s “offer of judgment” provision only in cases of defamation or privacy torts. The existing provision allows a defendant to make a settlement offer to the plaintiff, and if the plaintiff turns it down, and the final judgment is lower than the offer, the plaintiff then has to pay the legal fees of the defendant. This is a very useful provision in pressuring SLAPP filers to settle early. But, of course, it was that provision that put Laura Loomer on the hook for CAIR’s legal fees after her SLAPP suit against CAIR.

Basically, everything about this bill is (1) an attack on free speech, (2) an attack on the press, and (3) grievance politics from a bunch of nonsense peddlers who want to file SLAPP suits. Honestly, this bill should be described as a Pro-SLAPP law, as everything about it seems designed to encourage the filing of more frivolous lawsuits against the media, and in doing so, acts as a tool to harass and intimidate the media into silence.

Anyone who believes in free speech and the 1st Amendment should see this as an attack on both. Ron DeSantis and Alex Andrade are both going against their oaths to defend and uphold the Constitution, and are directly seeking to undermine it with this bill.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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And to quote a certain abridged series: Oh cool, it gets worse!

More Florida Republicans who dished out big bucks to Gov. Ron DeSantis’ re-election bid have been appointed to powerful public jobs—this time on the revamped board of a special tax district that oversees the Walt Disney Company. …

If approved, the board will garner the power to manage the special district’s infrastructure, services, taxing authority, and more. DeSantis suggested Monday that the board might push for a say in Disney’s content if the corporation wants its tax-friendly home base to remain as is.

“When you lose your way, you gotta have people that are going to tell you the truth,” DeSantis said. “All these board members very much would like to see the type of entertainment that all families can appreciate.”

(Source)

TKnarr (profile) says:

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I wasn’t aware that Disney was headquartered in Florida… 🙂

Disney World is fully depreciated by now, I think. I wonder, given the reports of problems at the park, dirty rides, etc., if Disney’s exit strategy is to let DeSantis relieve them of the debt associated with Reedy Creek and then simply close Disney World, sell the land for enough to cover any undepreciated value and concentrate on Disneyworld.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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how does it keep getting worse

The Florida Democratic party would not exist if a new Senate bill is passed and signed into law.

Spring Hill Republican Senator Blaise Ingoglia has filed SB 1248, which would be called “The Ultimate Cancel Act.”

While it does not mention the Democratic party’s name, it would direct the Florida Division of Elections to “immediately cancel the filings of a political party, to include its registration and approved status as a political party, if the party’s platform has previously advocated for, or been in support of, slavery or involuntary servitude.”

Southern Democrats advocated for slavery during the Civil War.

Under the Bill, registered Democrats would be automatically re-registered as having “no party affiliation.” The Democratic party officers could reorganize, but only under a substantially different name.

(Source)

If anyone believes I shouldn’t think of Florida’s Republican lawmakers as fascists, you’re objectively wrong.

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That One Guy (profile) says:

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Yesterday’s republicans are today’s democrats and vice versa so nice of them to bank on willful ignorance of history in an attempt to shut down their political opponents and ensure that the only option at the polls is them.

If gutting a political party based upon it’s support for slavery is a valid option however could someone remind me which side was losing it’s mind over the removal of pro-slavery statues not that long ago? Because I’m pretty sure it wasn’t the democrats.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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it keeps getting worse by the day

Florida Sen. Jason Brodeur (R-Lake Mary) wants bloggers who write about Gov. Ron DeSantis, Attorney General Ashley Moody, and other members of the Florida executive cabinet or legislature to register with the state or face fines.

Brodeur’s proposal, Senate Bill 1316: Information Dissemination, would require any blogger writing about government officials to register with the Florida Office of Legislative Services or the Commission on Ethics.

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JMT (profile) says:

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Wanting to remove Qualified Immunity for “journalists” isn’t fascist. It’s just making sure normal defamation law applies.

Journalists don’t have qualified immunity you muppet.

DeSantis is right, again, and you’re mad about it. That doesn’t make it OK to call him “fascist.”

He is following a well-trodden fascistic path:

Criticize and impose your will on the government.
Criticize and impose your will on the courts.
Criticize and impose your will on the media.
Criticize and impose your will on education.

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Matthew M Bennett says:

Learn the law

No, defamation law (which exists, everywhere in the US) is not a “This bill is a full frontal attack on the 1st Amendment”. It’s a civil proceeding between individuals (because 1 person lied about another) not a criminal matter nor the government trying to stifle speech.

And yeah, Journalist’s using “anonymous sources” to just straight make things up, or turn petty gossip into news stories, has really gotten out of hand. We saw it a LOT during the Trump years but it’s become a general problem as well.

There should NOT be any special protection to being a “journalist”, particularly in an age where anyone can be a journalist just by saying they are. And being a journalist doesn’t allow you to just make up shit and lie. I said it last time: This is just Qualified Immunity for journalists and you’re defending it.

Anyway, learn the law Masnick. Defamation law is not in conflict with the 1A and NYT v. Sullivan is basically the only connection between the two. And y’know, some precedents are dumb and should be overturned. This is how you go about doing it. Just because you’re in office should not be carte blanche for journalists to lie about you without recourse, nor anyone else for that matter, which they routinely do.

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Koby (profile) says:

Check Your Privilege

In a day and age where everyone with a smartphone is a reporter, journalists ought not get special privilege just because they work for a large organization. Nor should public figures deserve fewer rights. Especially when news organizations transform anyone they discuss, by nature, into a public figure. News reporters don’t have a special license to slander.

Anonymous Coward says:

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Skipping the fact that you support white supremacists…

News reporters don’t have a special license to slander.

They never needed one when and will never need one when it makes more profit than actually reporting on events, facts, and whatnot.

I mean, look at Rupert Murdoch and News Corp…

Or… THE EARLY HISTORY OF THE MEDIA IN THE US.

Unfortunately, to you, the law only works because it gives YOUR SIDE the freedom to force us to listen… or die.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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In a day and age where everyone with a smartphone is a reporter, journalists ought not get special privilege.

And just how much power does John Doe with a cell phone have over a powerful and politically connected wealthy individual?

And what special privilege are they getting that is not a right articulated specifically in the 1st amendment?

Nor should public figures deserve fewer rights.

They don’t, but they are held at a higher bar w.r.t. defamation laws due to their status.

If I write an article calling Elmo Musk a fucking idiot because of what he is doing to Twitter, and present facts to back up my opinion, he is in a much better position to handle the criticism than an average person.

News reporters don’t have a special license to slander.

They don’t you fucking idiot. To wit: see Dominion Voting Systems vs Fox News

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Blake Stacey (profile) says:

Meanwhile, “A Republican lawmaker in Texas has introduced legislation to compel internet providers to block abortion pill websites”. A quick skim of the bill text reveals that it is transphobic too.

“Woman” means an individual whose biological sex is female, including an individual with XX chromosomes and an individual with a uterus, regardless of any gender identity that the individual attempts to assert or claim.

Once again, the people incessantly crowing about “biological sex” don’t actually give a rat’s ass about biology. Turner’s syndrome? Androgen insensitivity? Hysterectomies? Never heard of ’em! As the saying goes, the cruelty is the point. “Biological sex” is just the fig leaf.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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  • “to save a woman’s life”*

Who says that they value any one woman’s life at all? After all, they’re more than willing to let a woman die in childbirth from an unhealthy pregnancy, why should a hysterectomy be treated any differently.

When push comes to shove, Republicans think that there are more than enough women just laying around for the asking, so what’s the big deal if we lose one or two along the way… to our Republican-planned return to cave-man days.

sumgai

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Sad how hate can make you generalize. You spout off claims without a shred of evidence to back them up. Therefore, they are invalid. And what about the women that abortion kills? Ever thought about them? No, you support people and an industry that knowingly allows living, born babies to die.

https://www.liveaction.org/news/nurse-quits-abortion-industry-after-baby-born-alive-is-left-to-die/

https://www.safeandlegal.com/the-pro-choice-death-list/

Oh, and in Massachusetts, killing an unborn child is now a homicide, as it should be.

https://www.liveaction.org/news/ma-supreme-court-homicide/

So the real issue is, do you believe an unborn child is a human being? Yes or no?

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Anonymous Coward says:

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I do like your list of links to absolutely rabid fanatical prolifer groups. It goes a long way to show you are without doubt a right wing raging and overbearing religous nutcase. What’s the bet you are also a male and therefore blissfully and ignorantly free from having to go through the hard choices a lot of women have to make on a daily basis.

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Rocky says:

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If women don’t have access to abortion, maternal deaths will increase by 24% and if you happen to be a black woman that rises to 39%. And those figures doesn’t even take into account maternal morbidity due to bad health outcomes like gestational diabetes and hypertension, the latter a contributor to eclampsia. You are arguing that more women should suffer and die horribly.

If you think all life is precious, adopt a couple of hundred starving children from a refugee camp instead of forcing your “women-are-broodmares-with-no-rights” views on everyone.

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JMT (profile) says:

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< And what about the women that abortion kills? Ever thought about them?

The number of women whose lives have been saved by abortions is many orders of magnitude higher than those harmed by them. You’ll never be able to provide more than a few anecdotes from the last 50 years. Pre-Roe is a different story of course. It’s almost as if legal abortion has proven to be an extremely safe procedure all around the world.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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So the real issue is, do you believe an unborn child is a human being? Yes or no?

No, that’s not the issue at all. It’s actually completely irrelevant.

The issue is bodily autonomy, which it seems is respected in pretty much all areas except pregnancy.

A born child’s parent cannot be forced to give plasma, blood, organs, or any other body part or bodily resource to that child, even if the child would die without it. Why then do you find it acceptable that a pregnant person can be forced to give bodily resources to an unborn child?

If you do find it acceptable, then surely you would also find it acceptable for the government to be able to compel a parent, against their wishes and under penalty of law, to provide a kidney (or hey, why not even their heart?) to their 5 year old child who would die without it? If not, why not?

That One Guy (profile) says:

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If you do find it acceptable, then surely you would also find it acceptable for the government to be able to compel a parent, against their wishes and under penalty of law, to provide a kidney (or hey, why not even their heart?) to their 5 year old child who would die without it? If not, why not?

If violating bodily autonomy is acceptable in order to save/preserve a life then anyone pushing that way of thinking should be totally on board with blood and organ donation becoming legally mandatory rather than optional and opt-in.

Someone needs a transfusion or they’re going to die and you’re the nearest match? Roll up those sleeves or have it done for you, it’s needle time.

Someone needs an organ transplant and your mother/father/brother/sister/friend recently passed and is a match? Time to open them up and treat them like the pile of spare parts they now are.

When corpses have greater bodily autonomy than pregnant women that’s a good sign that things have gone horribly wrong somewhere.

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nasch (profile) says:

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And what about the women that abortion kills?

Pregnancy and childbirth kill far more women than abortion does. If what you’re really concerned about is maternal health and survival (it isn’t), abortion is far, far safer than pregnancy. And if what you’re concerned about is preventing abortions (it isn’t) there are much more effective ways of doing that than banning it.

“The maternal mortality rate for 2020 was 23.8 deaths per 100,000 live births compared with a rate of 20.1 in 2019.”

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hestat/maternal-mortality/2020/maternal-mortality-rates-2020.htm

“During the period from 1998–2010, of approximately 16.1 million abortion procedures, 108 women died, for a mortality rate of 0.7 deaths per 100,000 procedures.”

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4554338/

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Anonymous Coward says:

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I doubt you do, either, or you’d have taken the time to study embryology, which clearly shows that an unborn baby is genetically distinct and unique from the moment he or she is conceived. And you care nothing for the women that abortion literally kills. Or the unborn babies whose murders you support – dismemberment (abortion) qualifies as murder. Might as well just admit you support killing for convenience and be done with it.

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That One Guy (profile) says:

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Hey, if that’s how you want to play…

Might as well just admit you support revoking the bodily autonomy of women the second they get pregnant because you don’t consider them to be people and be done with it.

Being ‘genetically distinct’ is utterly irrelevant to whether a woman owns their own body or not but I suppose it’s not surprising that someone banking their pro-birth argument on a strawman, that women are getting abortions because of convenience can’t be expected to bring anything better to the table.

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Rocky says:

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or you’d have taken the time to study embryology

Which you haven’t. It’s easy to recognize your bullshit every time you come here and post your drivel.

which clearly shows that an unborn baby is genetically distinct and unique from the moment he or she is conceived

Every woman dying of complications in their pregnancy or by childbirth is unique. What’s your point? Are you arguing that grown women of childbearing age are not unique and worthless?

And you care nothing for the women that abortion literally kills.

For 100000 abortions there are 0.41 abortion related deaths, in 2020 there where 930000 abortions giving us about ~4 deaths. For 100000 births there are 23.8 related deaths, in 2020 there where 3605201 births giving us ~240 deaths. (Numbers sourced from Guttmacher institute and CDC).

So in conclusion, you care nothing about on average 240 women that dies in childbirth, because the 4 dying of an abortion (which is done most likely due to problems with their pregnancy) is somehow more important, but that’s the reasoning you get when you refuse to reevaluate things and instead have made your mind up like a fanatic.

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mick says:

Sullivan

he made it clear that he wanted to undermine a core bedrock 1st Amendment Supreme Court case, arguing that the finding in NY Times v. Sullivan should be done away with.

It’s hysterical that DeSantis (and Trump!) want to do away with the SCOTUS decision that Fox is using as 100% of its defense in the Dominion case.

No Sullivan, no defense. lol

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John85851 (profile) says:

We should all know how this goes:
DeSantis and his cronies pass an obviously unconstitutional law.
It then passes because the Republican majority don’t care that it’s unconstitutional.
People sue because it’s unconstitutional.
People spent money fighting the law and DeSantis and the Florida government spend money defending the law.
The Florida Supreme Court finally declares the law unconstitutional.

DeSantis and his cronies cry and whine to the media because they were victims of the radical left woke Supreme Court.
The GOP base eats this up and DeSantis is one step closer to getting into the White House.

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David says:

Re: The one detail you missed in the story:

People spent money fighting the law and DeSantis and the Florida government spend money defending the law.

The actual ruse is that DeSantis and the Florida government spend the people’s money defending the law.

They aren’t paying out of their own pockets for that propaganda piece.

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Matthew M Bennett says:

Stop supporting Qualified Immunity for "journalists"

Just because you call yourself a journalist doesn’t mean you get to lie with immunity to defamation law.

And no, you fucking dumbass, making sure normal defamation law applies is not a “full frontal assault on the first amendment.” There isn’t even any intersection between 1A and defamation law, except for the one made up by Sullivan v NYT. Guess what? Not all SCOTUS precedents are good, and this is how you knock it down.

Read a book, Masnick, a law book, preferably.

Never have I seen someone spill more ink on a subject he knows nothing about.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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Just because you call yourself a journalist doesn’t mean you get to lie with immunity to defamation law.

Who here has said otherwise? As multiple people (including myself a few minutes ago) have pointed out, Fox News is currently in the middle of a defamation lawsuit that is…well, to be charitable, it isn’t exactly going their way at the moment. If we were so adamant about journalists/news outlets having immunity from defamation laws, we’d be calling for Fox News to receive that immunity. We’re not.

Defamation carries a high burden of proof precisely because enforcement of defamation laws would necessarily require state intrusion into the right of free speech. Defamation against public figures carries a higher burden of proof precisely because those people disliking factual reporting/statements about them shouldn’t give them the right to punish that speech. Elon Musk shouldn’t have the right to sue the New York Times if it reports things about him that he thinks make him look bad but are otherwise true, and the same holds true if we were talking about Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the Washington Post. If you’re not on-board with that logic, that’s your problem to solve.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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He said otehrwise

I’ll assume you’re referring to Mike and ask the $64,000 question: When and where did he say the exact thing you claim he said?

which don’t seem to be applied to FoxNews

Wouldn’t that mean that the immunity you claim Mike wants for news outlets/journalists doesn’t exist? 🤔

Anonymous Coward says:

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Wouldn’t that mean that the immunity you claim Mike wants for news outlets/journalists doesn’t exist? 🤔

The most entertaining thing about reading / sparing with the likes of Matty “The Cry Baby” and Chozen “Where’s the Bartender”, is watching them try to twist reality to fit their perceived version of it in order for things to make sense.

And to everybody who doesn’t live in an alternate reality, it’s extremely obvious and entertaining to watch how easily their entire narrative breaks down in real time with nothing more than a few simple facts.

Kinetic Gothic Tank says:

Ron Desantis, should be very careful about what he wishes for, given he’s almost as incapable of keeping his mouth shut as Donald Trump or Tucker Carlson. He could find this bill biting him in the A** very quickly, for example if he made a statement about -white people- being discriminated against, which would be defamation per-se under the bill.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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Companies like WaPo and OAN can post fake stories and lies and not be accountable for the misinformation.

Consider the following: Fox News is looking pretty bad thanks to the evidence cited by Dominion in its defamation lawsuit against Fox News. Anti-SLAPP statutes don’t prevent credible defamation suits from going forward⁠—they help prevent frivolous defamation suits from getting past a motion to dismiss.

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