Elon Musk Is Basically Zero Percent Of The Way Towards His Goal In Signing Up Users To Twitter Blue

from the like-a-fucking-rocketship dept

Soon after he announced his plans to buy Twitter, Elon Musk’s investor pitch leaked, and it was every bit as ridiculous as people have come to expect from Musk. One thing it included was a plan to reduce Twitter’s reliance on advertising, which (in a vacuum) is not a terrible idea. However, he seemed very, very sure that he’d be able to convince people to sign up for Twitter’s paid “Twitter Blue” subscription plan. The pitch deck noted that he expected 69 million subscribers by 2025.

Now, most people immediately recognize the use of 69 here to be yet another one of Musk’s obvious tells that he’s pulling these numbers out of his ass. But, investors completely overlooked that and seemed to think that Musk had the golden touch and were willing to back him based on his reputation alone, and to ignore his sophomorically weak attempt at making jokes with his projected numbers.

Either way, Musk has certainly reduced Twitter’s ad revenue, but it doesn’t look like he’s been all that successful in replacing it with subscription revenue. The Information reported this week that the new Twitter Blue has 180,000 subscribers in the US and 290,000 total (many publications are focusing on the 180k number, but the 290k seems more important). Twitter Blue is currently launched in the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, the UK, Saudi Arabia, France, Germany, Italy, Portugal, and Spain. So, in theory, there are still some places to expand, though it’s not clear that Twitter is all that popular in those countries. At the current price, Twitter’s Blue program is bringing in somewhere around a whopping $2.32 million per month. That is… not much.

Of course, some of us pointed out this was likely to be the result months ago. And, a big part of that is because Musk hasn’t given people any real additional value for signing up, other than signaling to the world that you’re desperately seeking the world’s richest man’s… er… guy who used to be the world’s richest man’s favor on his own platform that he rules through his random whims.

This might also explain why Musk has announced plans to start sharing advertising revenue with Twitter users, but only if they’re Blue subscribers. But, of course, it remains to be seen how that will work, especially with the ever decreasing ad quality, and Musk’s need to keep as much of that dwindling revenue as possible. It seems likely that users who sign up will get pennies back on their $8 monthly nut. And, of course, this will simply create incentives for Musk to increase the number of ads users see, rather than decrease them, as he’s repeatedly promised.

Again, there are all sorts of ways that a well thought out freemium model could work with Twitter, where payees could get access to useful new tools and features. But, that takes foresight, understanding, and planning. And Musk has revealed that he’s not very good with any of those when it comes to social media. No wonder he’s frantically tossing out dumb ideas like charging for basic API access

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nerdrage (profile) says:

does subscription social media even work?

Musk attempts to be half-assing his way towards determining whether a subscription business model works with social media. If it does, it would have to be social media that provides something strikingly different and more attractive than anything we’ve seen to date.

Social media is based on impulse and whims, with kids roaming around to whichever platform is popular at any given time. Social media doesn’t provide content that large numbers of people are actually willing to pay for. For that, you need to hire professional content producers and then you’ve reinvented Netflix.

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James Burkhardt (profile) says:

Its amamzing how many Muskrats are trying to spin this as a positive.
Them: He’s making 2.3 Million a year!
Me: He isn’t paying a $44B purchase with $30M/Y.
T: He can take it public once its fixed!
M: Hes lost $2B/yr in revenue, and contract renewals are not expected to trend upwards. Hes not attacting new investment from the public off the back of $300 million/year, let alone $30 Million/year.

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Scary Devil Monastery (profile) says:

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“Its amamzing how many Muskrats are trying to spin this as a positive.”

Ah, but you forgot that clinching argument of theirs – “Musk is a genius and the facts you bring just shows factual reality is envious of him!”

There are roughly four types of people currently defending Musk;

1) His cultists. Those for whom Musk walks on water and upon whose tongues his name is that of the sky wizard. Honestly, there are fewer of these than of any other category of Muskovite, simply because that sort of sectarian behavior is self-destruktive and they don’t live within the shelter of their chosen lord and savior.

2) Libertarians. They just love Musk’s long history of pissing on the rulebook. In their eyes he’s just the perfect example of the “rugged individual” who “made it big” in the US – despite already being quite wealthy when he got there – and who can usurp and assume traditional government functions such as space exploration. Musk is the closest they’ve got to an affirmation of Reagan and Ayn Rand. He’s John Galt.

3) The Beholden. And here we have the poor schmucks who have significant portions of their life savings invested in TSLA and SpaceX. They may or may not believe Musk knows what he’s doing but if their voice can keep their TSLA stock from shrinking further these people will be screaming louder than anyone other than Musk’s own cultists. Given how much money is riding there I wouldn’t be too surprised if some genuine paid-for astroturfing was part of this platform.

4) Nazis, Bigots, Fascists and Racists. Musk has let them all out of Twitter jail. The misogynistic braggart who enjoys teaching like-minded men how to coerce “consent” and the sheethead deliriously happy to once again be able to raise his voice in a hearty “Gawd dam ALL those N_____rs and their jew masters!”. The neo-nazi eager to convince young minds of the “Great Replacement Theory” and his fascist compatriot convinced democrats of any stripe drink the blood of babies.
Musk is the Great White Hope of all of these people now and his background, seen by them as being a refugee from a fallen apartheid regime, certainly doesn’t hurt.

Broadly speaking those four types of muskovites exist. All in all a bunch of very fine people, lunatics and marks conned by the latest shady witch doctor to cross their path with a miraculous cure for all ills.

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Bloof (profile) says:

Elon isn’t paying his landlords, he’s working to avoid paying the employees he’s fired in his fits of pique, he’s not paying people they license software from and it came down to the wire when he was due to make an interest payment on the debt he took on buying the company… He’s not going to be paying people anything meaningful to run ads next to their tweets, if he pays them at all.

If anything comes of this, I fully expect this to be some kind of crypto scam like Brave’s BAT token.

Tanner Andrews (profile) says:

Re: Re: it could work

He most certainly does see the value of other people, and that value is $8/month

OK, assume he is correct at $8/month. At is $96/yr. And assume he is correct in anticipating 69M people paying that. Computer says 6.624B/yr revenue from blue check marks.

It would more than pay the debt service on the twitter debt.

Warning: assumptions may not be valid in some universes. Your milage may varie. Financial ruin in mirror may be closer than it appears. Do not try this at home.

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Scary Devil Monastery (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:4

“The Midas myth.”

Doesn’t quite track. Midas wanted wealth and turned everything he touched to gold as a result of the “blessing” of Dionysys.

Musk also wants for wealth but everything he touches turns to shit instead. Either he’s just a fuck-up whose dunning-kruger finally hit the limit of what his networked wealth could dissipate or the deity handing him a “blessing” was Loki or Coyote.

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PaulT (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:3

The fun thing about Musk’s escapades is that he’s getting what he asked for, not what he wanted.

There may have been a way to achieve what he wanted, which was to come into Twitter and be lauded as its saviour, while showering himself in even more riches. But, that’s not what he requested through his actions.

Whether the end result is merely him having destroy a large chunk of his fortune to get a fraction of what he envisioned never really making a profit, or whether he’s going to end up with a worthless pile of rubble at the end is unclear, but he’s getting what he asked for.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Once again, I repeat my challenge to all of you anti-Musk degenerates: explain in detail how Musk’s ownership of Twitter has made your Twitter experience worse?

And don’t say because you now see Nazis and transphobes in your timeline, since that’s BS and would suggest you intentionally follow alleged Nazis and alleged transphobes!

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Tanner Andrews (profile) says:

Re: Re: simple solution that won't work

Twitter is worse now because the twat owning it encourages csam

Not necessarily express encouragement.

The problem is that they are not good at getting rid of such material. They need to set up a rule in their TOS that people posting such material will tag it #CSAM. Then they can have some sort of automatic scanner go through the posts every night and downrank or eliminate the posts so tagged.

Problem solved.

(works like “preview” on techdirt new platform)

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Rocky says:

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Once again, I repeat my challenge to all of you anti-Musk degenerates: explain in detail how Musk’s ownership of Twitter has made your Twitter experience worse?

Your question isn’t really relevant for the simple reason it ignores everyone else who isn’t here to answer it, ie you want anecdotal data from an extremely limited subset of users and the question can then rightly be classified as a red herring.

And don’t say because you now see Nazis and transphobes in your timeline, since that’s BS and would suggest you intentionally follow alleged Nazis and alleged transphobes!

Either you aren’t a user of Twitter at all, or, you are intentionally dishonest in your argument because you don’t have to follow assholes for them to harass you – just like how you come here and shit things up.

It is amazing how much you reek of being the typical stupid navel gazing US rube, because it seems you have forgotten there is a whole fucking world outside the US where the majority of Twitter users live.

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Rocky says:

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Wow, it’s amazing how enthusiastic you are to hurl insults and personal attacks!!

Wow, it’s amazing how enthusiastic you are to ignore who said “anti-Musk degenerates”. Behave like an asshole, be treated as an asshole. It’s entirely your problem that you have a meltdown when that happens.

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Llama Identity Thief says:

Re:

-Replies now seem to be in an utterly random order that makes no sense.
-Tweets continue to mysteriously unload, and require reloading the page or weird click out and back in bullshit in order to be able to see them.
-I’ve definitely been getting more ads than I used to.

And I’m not even someone who posts regularly enough to care about the engagement “bug” (that I would guess is more a feature of reduced active users in the US but I don’t know the details enough to be certain) that the right-wing political sphere is now breathing down Elon’s neck about.

Finally, the “Nazis and transphobes/following” argument doesn’t hold water because you interact with more than just your timeline.

There, I gave you the specific evidence I have that my Twitter experience has gone worse, without resorting to the “ad hominems” you’ve been annoyed about throughout these comments (even though you had one in your opening comment: “degenerates.”) Here is your chance to respond in good faith, to someone responding to you in good faith.

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Toast says:

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„explain in detail how Musk’s ownership of Twitter has made your Twitter experience worse?“
That challenge is flawed for the simple reason that Elon Musk did not claim that new-twitter would be as good as old-twitter, he claimed (and his followers claim now) that it would be BETTER. So if it is as good as before, he has failed, by his own standards.

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PaulT (profile) says:

I know they’re hard to get and probably impossible with any degree of accuracy, but I would love to see figures about the full effect of this idiotic program.

The whole thing was the first concrete evidence that Musk neither understood the business he bought, nor what his business plan would be. He seemed to think that he could replace the verification mark with a paid version, but the whole point of the old checkmark was that it verified who that person was who they claimed to be, thus protecting users from fraud. But, that’s a check that doesn’t need to be repeated regularly, so forcing people to suddenly pay a monthly fee for a one-off check was suspicious. Then, it would be available to all-comers, which destroyed the point of it in the first place. Then, he appeared to back down on a suggested price and pick another just because Stephen King dared mock him about it.

The whole thing was nonsense, but it drew the line in the sand for a lot of people. There’s no trusting the new management if they neither understand the business nor their long-term strategy. So, people left and started looking around for alternatives.

Forget how little money he’s convincing people (often bad actors) to pay him for this scheme. I’d like to see how many users and advertisers it cost the company. I dare say it will be far more than the number of fools/con artists he convinced to pay up!

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