Biden WSJ Tech Op-ed: More Of The Same Confused Stuff He Said Last Time
from the this-is-not-how-to-fix-things dept
President Biden has a new Congress, specifically with an already dysfunctional House of Representatives likely to explode at a moment’s notice. But he’s still pushing his own slightly confused tech agenda, which is a mix of accurately diagnosing some problems, misdiagnosing others, and being vastly confused about potential solutions for all of them. It’s unfortunate that it appears there is still no real growth among Biden or (apparently) his top tech advisors on actually understanding the various issues at work. It’s as if he’s been frozen in time, and looking solely at the issues as they were a decade ago, rather than what they are today.
The American tech industry is the most innovative in the world. I’m proud of what it has accomplished, and of the many talented, committed people who work in this industry every day. But like many Americans, I’m concerned about how some in the industry collect, share and exploit our most personal data, deepen extremism and polarization in our country, tilt our economy’s playing field, violate the civil rights of women and minorities, and even put our children at risk.
The issue here is that this framing is (again) a mix of partially correct, partially wrong, and partially misleading. There are reasonable concerns about the data collection aspect, but, as we’re seeing there are increasingly ways to avoid giving those platforms your data. With social media companies like Meta and Twitter losing steam, we have opportunities to move away from the big giants collecting all your data.
Regarding “deepening extremism and polarization,” the data… just doesn’t support that at all. I know the mainstream media narrative keeps repeating it, but the actual studies don’t support it at all. And we shouldn’t be making policy based on mainstream media narratives over actual facts and evidence. Of course, perhaps the reason the mainstream media keeps pushing this narrative is that the mainstream media has been shown by studies to be way more guilty of deepening extremism and polarization.
And I’m not at all clear what Biden means by “tilting our economy’s playing field.” The tech industry, for the most part has enabled way more people to have access to way more information and opportunities than in the past. Perhaps he’s arguing that some big companies have too much power, and on that I’d mostly agree (though that’s not what he says here), but as we’ve seen basically all of the tech giants have been in free fall this past year, and it seems like the market is doing its job in humbling them and putting forward competitors.
The issues regarding “civil rights of women and minorities” and putting “our children at risk” again… I’m not sure directly what this is referring to, but the evidence about children and social media has not shown any definitive increase in risk or harms, contrary to the media narrative.
Biden’s solutions, then, are still confused, based on media narratives more than facts, and an outdated view of the internet.
First, we need serious federal protections for Americans’ privacy. That means clear limits on how companies can collect, use and share highly personal data—your internet history, your personal communications, your location, and your health, genetic and biometric data. It’s not enough for companies to disclose what data they’re collecting. Much of that data shouldn’t be collected in the first place. These protections should be even stronger for young people, who are especially vulnerable online. We should limit targeted advertising and ban it altogether for children.
I mean, yes, the US needs a federal privacy law, but the devil’s in the details, and Biden (and his team) don’t seem to care much about the details and the problems with the details. Just as an example, he talks about “limiting targeted advertising and banning it altogether for children.” And, on a first pass that sounds good. But how do you do that in practice?
The only way to “ban” targeted advertising for children is to know the age of everyone on your website. And that means you actually have to get way more intrusive in collecting data on your users in order to know who is, and who is not, a child. And… that goes against the idea of protecting privacy. If you can’t explain how you handle those trade-offs, it’s difficult to take your big policy proposals seriously, because it makes it sound like you and your team haven’t actually understood the issues.
Second, we need Big Tech companies to take responsibility for the content they spread and the algorithms they use. That’s why I’ve long said we must fundamentally reform Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, which protects tech companies from legal responsibility for content posted on their sites. We also need far more transparency about the algorithms Big Tech is using to stop them from discriminating, keeping opportunities away from equally qualified women and minorities, or pushing content to children that threatens their mental health and safety.
Yeah, yeah. We’ve heard it all before. Again and again. And it was wrong then and it remains wrong today. Reforming Section 230 to make websites “legally responsible” for the content posted on their sites does not fix any of the problems he describes. Because, first off, most content remains fully protected under the 1st Amendment, including most abuse, harassment, and hate speech. Removing Section 230 won’t change that, and without any underlying tort, making platforms “responsible” won’t matter because there won’t be any content that violates the law.
Second, even if there is content that violates the law, under the 1st Amendment, you can’t just magically say that platforms are “responsible” or “liable” for it. The 1st Amendment has long required that for a third party distributor of the content they need to have knowledge of that content. And not just knowledge that the content exists, but knowledge that the content violates the law. And… that’s just not going to happen in most cases. You don’t get that knowledge until after a court has decided on the underlying question.
Even worse — and this is the important part that Section 230 haters keep ignoring — because of that knowledge standard, taking away Section 230’s protections actually encourages websites to take less responsibility, because the more responsibility they take, the more monitoring they do, the more likely they are to be found to have knowledge, and thus liable.
So Biden’s big plan here would actually encourages websites to turn a blind eye to bad stuff on their platform.
It is frustrating beyond belief that no one in the administration seems to understand this simple way in which the law works. They’ve had plenty of time to talk to actual experts, but they seem to have ignored them all, in favor of a small crew of activists who have never understood the law at all, and spread blatant falsehoods and misinformation about Section 230.
Biden’s solution would make the problems he describes worse, not better. It would tie the hands of websites who are actively trying to stop abuse and harassment on their platforms and it would make it nearly impossible for smaller upstarts (you know, the ones successfully chipping away at the big companies Biden was just complaining about) to exist.
As for the “transparency about algorithms,” we’ve explained multiple times why that’s problematic as well. First, it’s a censorship bill in disguise, which raises 1st Amendment issues. Second, it’s demanding transparency into editorial decision making, which everyone recognizes would be a problem if the Biden administration demanded to know what stories Fox News or the NY Times decided were the most important. That’s not something the government has a right to discover.
Third, all of these things, it would limit the ability of new upstarts that are giving control back to the end users to exist. Right now we’re seeing amazing growth of the fediverse, but without Section 230 and with certain transparency demands, I don’t see how anyone in the US could feel comfortable running a Mastodon instance, for example.
Third, we need to bring more competition back to the tech sector. My administration has made strong progress in promoting competition throughout the economy, consistent with my July 2021 executive order. But there is more we can do. When tech platforms get big enough, many find ways to promote their own products while excluding or disadvantaging competitors—or charge competitors a fortune to sell on their platform. My vision for our economy is one in which everyone—small and midsized businesses, mom-and-pop shops, entrepreneurs—can compete on a level playing field with the biggest companies. To realize that vision, and to make sure American tech keeps leading the world in cutting-edge innovation, we need fairer rules of the road. The next generation of great American companies shouldn’t be smothered by the dominant incumbents before they have a chance to get off the ground.
More competition is a worthy goal. But, here’s the thing: as I detailed in my end of the year post a couple weeks ago, we’re already seeing that. And many of the policies Biden is pushing will make that much harder, not easier. It’s almost as if the only people talking to Biden on this are focused on their own little silos without realizing how the “privacy laws” and the “get rid of 230” push will actually do more to lock in big companies and kill off upstart competitors.
This isn’t how policy should be made.
Of course, the fact is, these are almost the identical policy statements Biden made upon taking office two years ago. And at that time, his party had effective control over both houses of Congress… and couldn’t get any of those tech policy initiatives through (he did get many other things through, but none of these policies). And, in that time, the tech world has also changed a lot, though it sure feels like no one in DC has noticed. Meta is collapsing, shedding users and revenue, and throwing away billions on a metaverse concept almost no one seems interested in. Google seems stymied by an inability to figure out where things go from here, and we’re seeing innovations jumping out from much smaller operations like OpenAI. And, of course, the growth of new alternatives, including those not controlled by the big companies, gives hope that we’re on the right path.
Maybe long wasteful antitrust battles distract those companies for a while, but those lawsuits are already ongoing (and so far haven’t been going all that well).
All of this just seems to be missing what’s actually happening in the tech space today and how to encourage it. It doesn’t look at the ways in which copyright and patent laws are holding competition back. Or how an outdated CFAA is allowing the big companies to stomp out smaller upstarts. These are real issues that could be dealt with. Instead, we get this same nonsense about 230 and antitrust.
And the fact is that with this current dysfunctional Congress, it seems even less likely that Biden’s confused wishlist is going to get anywhere.
Filed Under: anti-trust, competition, joe bide, privacy, section 230


Comments on “Biden WSJ Tech Op-ed: More Of The Same Confused Stuff He Said Last Time”
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"slightly"
There’s that liberal bias again. 🙂
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Re: Why is every comment you make hidden?
Tone aside, I value your comments here because I need/want to ALWAYS hear the other side of every argument.
I come here to listen to Mikes opinions because I want to make sure I hear his side of every argument he chooses to take part in. His denial that the Twitter files have any value at all is fascinating, and I find myself needing to hear the justification of that opinion, coupled with his mostly fact based legal rebuttals. He’s like the lefts defense lawyer, makes gasoline taste like only kerosene.
I find it peculiar that folks here just want to hide everything you say, maybe you have earned it? But I am comforted that you’re not cancelled altogether. The discourse is so important, and they removed that from Twitter, even though it still ain’t perfect, the sheer # of folks that are now back on the platform is astounding.
Would be nice if Mike acknowledged we have a president who can barely function without his notes in front of him, I mean it is pretty pathetic.
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He doesn’t act in good faith. He is abusive and generally acts like a fucking asshole, and fucking assholes don’t deserve the respect that is reserved for normal people who come to argue in good faith.
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Yes, I do. I’m free to tell you people you are wrong. You often are.
The answer is because there are a handful of emotional children who slam that flag button no matter what. I actually suspect it’s just one or two people spoofing: my comments will be up for hours just to have suddenly every single reply of mine hidden within a few minutes.
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That’s not what good faith is.
Ever heard of timezones?
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Or dynamic IP addresses?
I don’t have power over what IP address I’m assigned because that’s done at the ISP level.
It’s annoying at worst.
Once again, I can’t be bothered to actually bypass WordPress security because frankly, these harassers are not worth the effort.
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Every argument, you say. I guess that means you need to hear from racists about respecting the civil rights of Black people.
And before you say a goddamn thing in response: Not every argument has two “sides” worth respecting. That you seem to suffer under the delusion of “opinions put forth by bigots and fascists are worth respecting” is…telling.
Re: Re: Re: Respecting? No. Hearing? Yes.
How do you place a value on a statement you don’t hear?
You can hardly rebut something unsaid.
You need not respect what is said but you must respect his/her right to say it. That’s the nature of free speech.
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You are of course free to invite people to your property if you want hear what they have to say, what you aren’t entitled to is demanding that they have a space on other people’s private property.
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I never suggested such was the case.
Where’s the logic in opening a dialog and rejecting out of hand, comments yet unshared?
A sort of personal prior restraint.
The question isn’t can you,because,of course you can but, should you?
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Do you know the story of the boy of cried wolf? After hearing a person bleating the same shit again and again you tune them out.
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Right after we record their arguments.
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You do know that the ACLU went to court to protect the KKK’s free speech, right?
Yeah man, that’s how free speech works. Gonna hear some stuff you don’t like. Can’t work any other way.
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… d=from actual censorship by the government.
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Yes? Also no. It’s only illegal when the government censors. But it’s still censorship when private parties do it.
Anyway, free speech is still gonna mean you’re gonna hear/read things you don’t like.
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And free association plus property rights means people can’t be forced to carry speech they don’t like.
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In that case, we simply don’t agree with your notion of free speech that requires private entities to host speech they find objectionable on their privately owned platform. As far as we’re concerned, a private publisher deciding not to publish the KKK’s speech is incomparable to the government punishing the KKK for their speech or coercing private entities to do so instead. You are free to disagree, but that doesn’t mean you’re any more correct to say that the latter infringes on free speech than we are to say that that’s not infringing free speech but is actually an exercise of the platform’s free speech rights.
And no, the right to free speech doesn’t entail the right to a specific audience. You cannot force us to read/listen to what you say. Us expressing our desire to not hear/read what you say in no way infringes on your freedom of speech.
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Your use of quotes is quite telling as well…
Even though you have determined that someone you have never met is delusional, I value your opinion, as long as you’re not a psychologist… at least I don’t have to click a button to see your reply.
I can see Mikes point about content moderation being difficult. I guess it’s much easier to collapse someone who gets flagged rather than determine if the thing they said is worth collapsing. Just collapse everything they say problem solved.
This is fun. I’ll be back with my real name after I practice a little.
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What is it with you trash and thinking you can successfully gaslight us about what we can see right here on the page for ourselves?
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I’m sorry all those facts and definitions upset you. /Not sorry
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If you actually provided facts and credible sources that actually support your claims, that’s be one thing. You simply haven’t done so.
Furthermore, nothing in the thread replied to by this comment included definitions at all, so that had nothing to do with this.
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“I find it peculiar that folks here just want to hide everything you say”
Go to any thread about Musk/Twitter to get the simple answer to that. This particular user is flooding those threads with factually untrue claims, personal attacks against the owner and regular commenters who try to correct him, wild conspiracy theories and a refusal to even attempt to address the words people actually say in favour of distorted nonsense.
He’s indicated to everyone here that what he wants to say is less than useful to adult discourse, so people are signalling to others that even though his words are available to anyone who wishes to read them anyway, it’s not worth the effort.
“Would be nice if Mike acknowledged we have a president who can barely function without his notes in front of him”
Yet, he’s accomplished more in 2 years than the other guy who similarly failed at such things did in 4.
There’s valid criticisms of Biden, but most of them disappear into irrelevance when you compare them to the last guy. If you want this mindset to change, please present a better candidate for the office for the next election.
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That’s a weirdly mild post from you, considering the subject of the article.
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Because I fundamentally agree, I don’t want face recognition. The opening line was still really dumb tho.
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Oh, my mistake, wrong post
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aka real-world facts
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Was it not Stephen Colbert who said that “Reality has a well-known liberal bias”?
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Yep. White House Correspondents’ Dinner, 2006.
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“My interpretation of reality” has a well-known liberal bias.
FTFY
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You Fell For It
I was going to say that the write up was likely not written by Brandon; but rather, several staff members who write his speeches for him. However, if it sounds like confused rambling, then perhaps he really DID write it himself.
In either case, your first mistake was to take it seriously as a policy position. You’ll find deeper insight by reading a fortune cookie. It’s just a press release that’s designed to sound good, but nothing is actually going to be accomplished. There’s noone behind that steering wheel.
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Funny how you fuckers will take anything Trump says as being equivalent to the word of god, but any other president that isn’t Q-adjacent should just be ignored.
You really show your true colors when you make a statement such as this.
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I just want to say that it’s hilarious how right-wingers like you have to hide your dislike of Biden behind a codephrase as if saying what’s on your mind will get you put in a camp of some kind, whereas left-wingers will straight-up say “fuck Joe Biden” without fear.
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What are you smoking? Of course we’re happy to say “fuck Joe Biden”. That’s what led to the Brandon thing, you do know that, right? The Brandon thing is just fucking funny.
Remember when they tried the “Dark Brandon” thing? That was deliciously pathetic. You’d think it would have gotten old by now but obviously not.
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And yet, y’all insist on continually using “let’s go Brandon”.
Yes, and the amazing thing is that the tables being turned on a shitty right-wing meme pisses y’all off. I mean, y’all the ones who embraced “let’s go Brandon”; if “Dark Brandon” makes y’all upset, y’all can always drop your adoption of the original “let’s go Brandon” meme. Or y’all can keep making an unfunny joke and help keep the counter-meme alive. Your choice.
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Then just say that.
I am familiar with how it started.
Maybe at first, but it’s gotten old and kinda pathetic.
I’m unfamiliar with that one, but if you think that’s pathetic, fine. So is “Brandon”. It may have been funny at first, but now it’s grown so old. It’s also childish.
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No You.
Re: You’ll find deeper insight by reading a fortune cookie.
No doubt based on your own experience and methods.
It would certainly explain the lack of coherence in you comments.
However, for classic masterful incoherence, you need TFG.
Something to aspire to. I have faith in you.
'We value privacy which is why we are mandating the opposite.'
‘We are dedicated to user privacy, data protection and a healthy competitive market, that’s why we want platforms to collect even more information both in scope and amount than they already do and operate under a legal system that ensures that only the major players already on the scene have any chance.’
Biden either needs to listen to his tech advisors or get better ones because that is not how any of that works.
the basic issue is the foolish trust in politicians to improve your life
Re: Joy
In my former place of employment, we had a saying:
Everyone brings joy to this place.
Some by entering,
Some by leaving.
That Wall Street Journal op is an embarrassment in how little Biden knows how the internet works. While he’s not calling for section 230 to be completely revoked is a good (albeit marginal) step in the direction, his stance on S. 230 is still very misguided and woefully tonedeaf. The most revealing thing about this op is this: Biden doesn’t have a plan. It’s a self-admission that he has no idea how the internet works, no idea that there’s a difference between smaller websites and social media, has no intention of how it will work, and uses the bare minimum to get others to make it work. So I don’t even know what’s worse: either be like the previous “president” and have a terrible and DOA plan to get the FCC as S. 230’s regulators or be like Biden and having no plan at all. I mean, it’s not like there were actual groundwork for antitrust to specifically target big tech companies or something.
With all that said, I still would prefer Biden over the last. He’s an okay president. But he’s also an infuriating one as well, because he has moments where he could become a good president. But it’s shit like this that just keeps him there.
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So I don’t even know what’s worse: either be like the previous “president” and have a terrible and DOA plan to get the FCC as S. 230’s regulators or be like Biden and having no plan at all.
Neither option is good but I’ll take ignorant incompetence over ignorant maliciousness any day as it’s at least theoretically possible to get the former to understand the damage that their idea might cause and get them to reconsider whereas the damage is the point for the latter.
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As always and ever, there remains not a single “Section 230 is a problem and it should be removed/modified” argument that was not built upon lying about what 230 does and how.
Blah blah competition: Ignore everything which we do not define as “tech”. There are not, and never have been, any of these problems outside of “tech”! Look at teh shiny thing over here.
Don’t let companies selling products aimed at children buy targeted advertising. Same way tobacco companies aren’t permitted to use many (or most) forms of advertising in many parts of the world.
“Confused” Is an excellent term to describe this “president”
He’s confused about where his son died, about defending Taiwan, about where those classified documents are, about on whom to call when taking questions, about where exits from stages are, about the driver who killed his wife, about drunk driving being a felony, about whether Cambodia is Colombia, if the Salvation Army is really Secret Service, whether the teleprompter is to be read verbatim, whether Kamala is actually President, how many states he’s been to, whether Irish people are inherently stupid, who his wife’s father is, whether he was arrested in South Africa, whether he gave his dead uncle a Purple Heart, and plenty more. He’s an embarrassing incompetent.
He’s still less bad than the previous embarrassing incompetent though, faint though that damning praise may be.
I don’t expect him to even partially understand the consequences and implications of his proposals (or really even how to upload a video to TikTok), and I’m thankful that Mr Masnick is on the case.
Right… the US is all about free speech and free enterprise… unless you’re a “big tech” company.
Wow
This sounds bad at first pass to anyone who understands how websites stay online.
It becomes outrageous when you understand how many ways it would violate the user’s rights.
Those of us who prefer relevant advertising are, yes, a minority. But a very large minority. Many of us are part of the tech industry, fully understanding how advertising keeps sites on the web, and free.
There are many issues in such a restriction of targeting. Starting with adults.
I have an absolute right in this country to conduct my business with companies of my, not some politician’s, choice.
If I wish to increase the ability of helping the site stay online with click through adverts, that is my absolute right.
I like to support the creative efforts of those sites I utilise. I pay for services I have little use for here at techdirt. Because it keeps the site running. And some sites with in-linking get commissions from my buying. Others get advert revenue from my clicking on banners.
Don’t you {generic} dare make that harder.
The flip side of this, children. This is difficult. But the decision must be held by the patent(s). Any disabling by the government is a circle back to my first point.
The real problem is opt-x doesn’t carry consequences. If a person doesn’t like to receive relative advertising they should opt out. And that should be honoured with criminal penalties for failure.
However; I’ve said this before. As soon as some nanny politicians pass a law that makes it harder for sites to track me, there WILL be a class-action filed.
Want to place bets how easy it will be for me to not pay a penny to lawyers on this? Or how fast the law gets struck down?
What will happen is either sites go off line, or charge.
And a few percent become unusable advert junk with floating ads and with-you scrolling images.
The only good takeaway here is
That would mean less censoring.
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