Missouri Attorney General Appears To Be Using Open Records Requests To Intimidate His Critics
from the using-public-records-for-evil? dept
Missouri Attorney General Eric Schmitt is involved in some questionable use of the state’s public records laws. Following the AG’s dubious decision to sue schools over what he called “illegal” mask mandates, he raised his controversy level considerably earlier this year. He continued this assault on his own credibility by suing schools and educational non-profits that had denied his public records requests seeking documents about mask mandates and one parent-teachers’ organization that had requested the federal government open criminal investigations into parents who threatened violence against teachers and schools over the same mask mandates that AG Schmitt claims are illegal.
Eric Schmitt is more than the state’s Attorney General at this point. He’s the Donald Trump-endorsed Republican nominee for the US Senate in Missouri — something that explains his crusade against school mask mandates, as well as his disdain for educators who deploy “woke policies” and “prioritize politics.” These phrases are, of course, meaningless. It simply means the AG/Senate nominee is against children being exposed to unfortunate facts about history, criticism of Trump Republicans and the things they hold dear (bigotry, cops, etc.), acceptance of people’s sexual identities, and suggestions that there are other condiments than ranch dressing.
His attacks on educators have provoked responses, not all of them welcoming of his onslaught. And that’s where things go off the rails, as reported by Tessa Weinberg for the Missouri Independent.
In April, after Schmitt launched a platform for parents to report “divisive” curriculum in their student’s school, (MSU Associate Professor Jon] Turner mused on Twitter that Schmitt used to be known as a moderate in the state legislature.
“…now as our ATTORNEY GENERAL he is so ANTI-TEACHER I just can’t wrap my mind around the flip-flop,” wrote Turner, a former school administrator and teacher for 25 years. “I’m working to make sure this dangerous, hateful political jellyfish never gets elected to anything again.”
A few days after that tweet, Missouri State University (MSU) got a letter from the attorney general’s office requesting all of Turner’s emails over the previous three months.
Professor Turner viewed this as a “shot across his bow” — an implicit message that the state AG was now keeping an eye on this particular troublemaker. And maybe that’s the intent. The AG’s office, however, is attempting to portray it as nothing more than good AG work.
Contacted about the request for Turner’s emails last week by The Independent, Chris Nuelle, a spokesman for Schmitt, said it was, “a part of a fact-finding process we undertook that was looking into the practices and policies of education in our state.”
Yeah, but fact-finding generally doesn’t mean targeting one specific person’s emails. As the state AG, it seems Schmitt could simply ask the schools to turn over these records without utilizing the public records process, which allows the AG to give the impression he’s not attempting to intimidate schools or critics within these schools.
If the AG felt the schools were somehow breaking the law, he could compel production with subpoenas as part of an investigation. Of course, this would definitely give the impression the AG was targeting educators whose political leanings he didn’t care for, which would result in that much more criticism of him and his tactics. So, it appears he is going the backdoor route with public records requests to disguise his true intent and duck as much criticism as possible. It also keeps him and his office from being sued for violating the rights of educators by chilling their speech.
AG Schmitt should certainly have as much access to public records as anyone else in the state. But he’s in a very powerful position and appears to be using records requests to engage in investigations he and his office won’t publicly announce or put their name on. The targeting of a critic’s emails has very little to do with the objective stated by his spokesperson. It seems far more likely AG Schmitt is trying to see what his critics are saying about him behind his back — a public records equivalent of a Google vanity search.
The entire situation — beginning with AG Schmitt’s decision to politicize school policies by targeting only those that don’t align with his own political leanings and running through his request for a critic’s emails — is incredibly shady. But it’s the sort of thing we’ve come to expect from politicians who’ve decided to hitch their star to an ex-president far too many people have chosen to view as the savior of a nation he couldn’t even win over twice.
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Comments on “Missouri Attorney General Appears To Be Using Open Records Requests To Intimidate His Critics”
Kolby, Chozen, et. al. this is what censorship for political objectives looks like, and is what you are supporting. Note if it leads to an authoritarian state, you will suddenly find that remaining quiet avoids you gaining the attention that leads to state action against you. Note, participating in such a state makes for a nervous existence, as such states consume their own when ideas shift by a small amount.
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Intimidation of office. Which is against the law I should hope.
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To this specific topic the DOJ had a story about how they had acted at the request of school board associations that occurred organically. FOIA requests quickly showed that to be an out and out lie with the administration and these school board associations coordination hand in glove since the inception of the idea.
Always remember when working for a government institution your e-mails are not private.
I’ve worked in a publicly owned utility. I know that. Why don’t these morons?
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Schools are a government institution they have no right to privacy and individuals have no right when acting to that effect.
I thought the left loved FOIAs. I guess you do just not when its used against you. I have never changed my tune. I supported FOIAs against all government institutions and administrations.
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FOIA is a tool. As with most tools, it can be used with malicious intent/to malicious effect. A government official using FOIA to go after the emails of a lower-ranking government official who criticized that higher-ranking official—ostensibly to prevent further criticism from being expressed—can absolutely look like a malicious use of that tool.
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I like hammers. They can be very useful. However, I am not at all pleased to have a hammer fall into the hands of a kid who also has access to good glassware.
Re: Re: Re: excellent analogy.
I am also not a fan of hammers when they fall into the hands of Dr. Edison Maxwell to kill Joan, who was studying pataphysical science.
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Remaining quiet isn’t an absolute defence, however, as you’re one false accusation away from a gulag, concentration camp or summary execution.
Being an active contributor to fascism and the totalitarian state also brands you as an extremeist once the winds change direction.
But it appears that our lying scumbag of a troll doesn’t seem to care that the face-eating leopards will eventually consume him.
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Like Ethan Klein?
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…of course you’d try to use that example to shit on 1A, property rights and promote harassment and fascism.
On the plus side, at least it’s proof that Youtube moderates EVERYONE.
If the strikes hit one side more than the other, that’s not a problem with the moderation, it’s a you problem.
Hmm… if Jon Turner’s emails are subject to FOIA requests just arbitrarily, does that mean that Eric Schmitt’s are as well?
Perhaps I should bring out my Goose Sauce recipe again…
"Conservative"
Just cause the republicans use the word, DONT mean they go to Church allot.
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“Conservative” and “churchgoer” aren’t synonymous. While those on the left wing of the political spectrum are more tolerant of atheism, there are also left-wing religions, such as reform Judaism (of which I am part), The United Church of Christ (a.k.a. Unitarianism), and the Religious Society of Friends (a.k.a. Quakers), and that’s off the top of my head (this is in no way supposed to be an exhaustive list)!
Then again, you don’t have a good track record of making coherent arguments, so…
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I hesitate to place any religion in a specific political “bucket”, so to speak. While a given religion may be dominated by sects and adherents that lean in a specific political direction, that by no means makes the entire religion “left wing” or “right wing”. Christianity, for example, has plenty of adherents that would qualify as “left wing” (or at least centrist). They’re equally as Christian as their conservative counterparts; the “No True Scotsman” argument shouldn’t apply to either group.
And for all the grousing about who’s a “real Christian”, conservative Christians tend to forget that Jesus Christ was a Jewish man of color, born homeless to an unwed teenager, who spent his formative years as an illegal immigrant before returning to his home country to hang out with twelve men, prostitutes, and socially untouchable tax collectors while he taught a radical social doctrine of equality, love, and forgiveness that included paying taxes, free healthcare, and the sharing of resources within a community. If the “No True Scotsman” card could ever apply to any group of Christians, it’d be the group that talks a fair game about “What Would Jesus Do?” but ignores his teachings in favor of trying to hurt the destitute, the marginalized, and the Culturally Repugnant Other.
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If we shame the actual Christians, they’ll willingly let themselves get martyred.
If we shame the hypocrites, they’ll make themselves more repugnant and justify shaming their entire organization into the ground.
It’s a win-win. We will overcome.
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So tell me again, how will this work when these fucks have already cast off their masks and braying for our deaths?
Oh, and hitching their horses onto a conman, known racist and all around FASCIST?
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Did them braying for our deaths stop us from getting same-sex marriage approved?
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It seems to be doing a bang-up job of fucking up the lives of trans people, so maybe consider that before you make another comment like that again.
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Ah, yes. The problem with lesbians too dumb enough to let open-minded men into their ranks. We can shame them too. It worked against Rowling, we can put the pressure on TERFs before they make us look like a disunited front.
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lmao fuck off you right-wing hack
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If I was a right-wing hack, sure, I would.
We hat I spoke about in the earlier post is coming to pass. These corrupted politicians want to instill fear in people, which is we must act in spite of the fears and not let it rule over us.
If being sent to jail by a powerful official is the worst that could happen, so be it
That’s it, Cushing. Now you have gone too far.
1 million+ dead and they are STILL bitching about masks.
Maybe they were not perfect, maybe the plans weren’t fully understood, but to send your child into a place where they might contract a fatal disease without any concern…
Oh wait…
Thoughts and Prayers will protect them just like the kids in the shot up schools.
They demand schools go into lockdown if there is an incident involving a weapons within a certain range of a school, but requiring masks out of an abundance of caution is to far.
A piece of cloth is not tyranny, forcing the sexually assaulted to carry a baby is.
They call others snowflakes but they all melted down over a black mermaid, a classically trained flutist playing a flute, and somehow think that drag queens are molesting kids at a higher rate that youth pastors in this country.
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“Maybe they were not perfect, maybe the plans weren’t fully understood, but to send your child into a place where they might contract a fatal disease without any concern…”
And maybe they made it worse. There were studies prior to COVID-19 that showed mask wearing to the standard that the general public wears a mask makes it worse. There was a 2015 Vietnamese study that found the highest rate of infection occurred in the cloth mask group, even higher than the control group that wore no mask. Yes surgical masks worn to a medical standard have some benefit, the study didn’t show statistical difference between medical mask and control, but normal people don’t wear surgical masks to a medical standard.
There was another study that showed the most effective method for preventing transmission was handwashing along. Wearing a mask and washing hands actually negated the benfit of the hand washing because people were constantly touching their masks.
I’m not a medical doctor but I am an engineer and I understand that these are really systems analysis problems. You cant zero in on one variable or physical effect and assume that will be the effect when you introduce your solution into the real world.
Yes N-95 as a barrier itself works very well in a laboratory mechanistic study. In the real world as a mask worn by everyday people that benefit breaks down. The sides don’t seal properly, people wear the same mask all day increasing that time of exposure, people constantly touch their mask. These are just some of the other signals you are introducing to the system and you cant assume your system response will be positive because the mechanistic study was positive. There a known knowns, unknown knows, known unknowns, unknown unknowns. That’s why we do real world studies.
Ready to be flamed on techdirt by a bunch of people who cant at all engage in a techne logos because they get gheir techne logos from an MBA and a theater major.
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We don’t flame you because you have controversial opinions.
We flame you because you are a disingenuous white supremacist who shits up the comment section hoping to kill the site. We flame you because you shit on the freedoms you claim to want to protect. We flame you because you are a fucking liar and most likely don’t know half the shit you lie about. And that’s me being generous.
We flame you because you clearly have no idea about what you are talking about and you’ve harassed the site owner AND at least one regular reader.
The only reason you come back to pollute the comment section is that the owner doesn’t believe in banning your criminal ass.
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The owner is too busy turning coat yet again and sucking up to Musk after he in my opinion, and probably Musk’s opinion, took Bill Gate’s money to trash Musk.
Mike will say and do anything to keep his place at the table.
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lmao what
also double lmao where’s the proof
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This is Chozen, after all. He’s talking out of his ass à la Ace Ventura.
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Nah, Chozen is more Assy McGee than Ace Ventura at this point.
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That’s an insult to Ace Ventura.
At least Ace had a small degree of compassion for animals, albeit one forced onto him at times.
Chozen has already demonstrated he’s got less than zero compassion or something akin to it.
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“lmao what
also double lmao where’s the proof”
Mikes funding sources are public record and it doesn’t matter Musk believes it and that is all that matters. Mike is done and he knows it.
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lmao you don’t have any proof
double lmao you think rape is funny like Trump does
triple lmao you really don’t believe anything you’re fucking saying, you just want the attention of people you hate because you hate yourself enough to keep punishing yourself like this and JFC man, get some help and touch some grass.
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Are you willing to challenge your lies in a court of law, then?
Mike’s troubles with Google are on the public record and for all to see. Mike admitting that the Charles Koch Foundation has not returned to him is also on the public record for all to see.
If you have actual evidence, then let’s see you prove that Mike a corporate shill… in the courts.
If you can’t you’re still a fucking violent white supremacist liar and should be handed either an arrest or worse.
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Are you willing to defend that slander in a court of law? Or better yet, trial by combat?
No guns, of course. We don’t want you to die prematurely from your own incompetence, after all.
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lmao
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And maybe they made it worse. There were studies prior to COVID-19 that showed mask wearing to the standard that the general public wears a mask makes it worse.
Geez, if only we had competent leadership at the highest level of government and a plan that took all of this information into account, while presenting it to the public in a consistent and coherent manner.
Perhaps not pandering to political nonsense and allowing people to ‘do their own research’ and ‘educate themselves’ wasn’t such a great idea after all.
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“Perhaps not pandering to political nonsense and allowing people to ‘do their own research’ and ‘educate themselves’ wasn’t such a great idea after all.”
Funny you think that is what happened.
“Although mechanistic studies support the potential effect of hand hygiene or face masks, evidence from 14 randomized controlled trials of these measures did not support a substantial effect on transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza.” Xaio May 2020.
This was the scientific consensus and still is. No new science changed anything. Public pressure changed people like Fauci who have a history of caving to media pressure. People like you wanted an easy solution.
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I’m pretty sure the people who wanted an “easy solution” were, more often than not, the kind of people who would go on to receive Herman Cain Awards.
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Oh look in addition to world class lap dancer and sub par computer engineer, chihuahua over here is now a virologist, a textiles engineer, and has a doctorate in public health.
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Don’t need to be a medical doctor to understand the difference between mechanistic studies and randomized controlled trials.
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And I’m sure your girlfriend in Canada thinks you’re a 11/10, too. 🙄
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Close but no cigar. I’m fucking a trap game streamer right now.
That said you do know the the first major pro mask study that lead to most of the local mandates was published by an economist George j. Borjas. The CDC leaned heavily on him for a long time. But as time went on the statistical relationships he claimed to have proven disintegrated. By just performing a correlation study of lockdowns mask mandates etc. to case numbers Dr. Borjas ignored the null case of an outbreak and the correlation was just the normal life cycle of an outbreak.
So as is normal case the requirement that the person be an “expert in that specific field” only matters when they dont agree with you.
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lmao you and Trump both think rape is funny
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Taking the opinion of the one expert with that opinion, and ignoring the hundred that disagree is a weak argument, and looks like you are cherry picking your experts to suite you own biases and opinions.
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Not to mention…
Oh wait, Japan already had a mask mandate for a particularly nasty flu season in 2018 that fucking worked.
And the Japanese mask up when they’re sick.
Please stop lying.
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But that is exactly what the state did multiple times. There was mountains of evidence on what masks do and do not do. There was never strong RCT data showing masks were effective against airborne viruses.
As the May 2020 meta study showed while there is mechanistic studies and reasons one would think masks are effective in randomized controlled trials they have failed to show effectiveness.
Instead the state went right back to looking at mechanistic studies and poor observational studies because they wanted to prove the narrative.
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Are you sure it wasn’t because of the China sounding name?
Because that former guy really had a problem with China stuff.
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Masks are poor at protecting you, but good a protecting other people from you. Its other people wearing a mask that reduces you risks, and you should do the same to reduce theirs.
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Please stop fucking lying and polluting this space any more.
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That’s Chozen for you: Jack of all trades, barely competent in none.
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Funny you think that is what happened.
Even funnier to have watched it in motion.
You have no idea of the enjoyment we had watching the rubes latch on to the ‘stupidest thing I’ve ever heard’ schtick of the week from whatever ‘trusted source’ they were getting their ‘information’ from.
From drinking aquarium cleaner, eating horse de-wormer, deliberately infecting themselves, or just outright denying that covid existed while sitting uncomfortably on a respirator. They never seemed to run out of material!
It was like a Golden Age of Stupid!
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Or a Fecal Age of Smart!
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What’s amazing is that with massive studies full of data that proved you were wrong you people still believe this shit.
Virus was always going to virus.
You just have a god complex.
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Ah, yes, the “sick people who died from COVID deserved to die” position. That’s always a crowd-pleaser~.
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No one deserves to die but we will all die. Being upset that man cant stop a virus is no different than religions and non-religious people wanting to know why god lets good things happen to bad people.
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No one deserves to die but we will all die.
Lol, wut?
non-religious people wanting to know why god lets
Non-religious people typically don’t give a shit why god does anything. It’s a fundamental tenet of being non-religious.
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Technically, that would be atheists. “Nones” can include people who subscribe to some form of religious belief but choose to not affiliate themselves with any specific religious dogma/sect.
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I’m seeing at least 3, no 5 examples that deserve to die.
And you’re one of those 5.
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You just have a god complex.
What kind of god complex can exist absent a god? There’s no god shit involved in this, it’s science remember?
The fools who flaunted science were not the mask wearers. They were the idiots who went out of their way to prove that it was a hoax.
And in the end, those rounds went to science.
For the rest, we’ll see how they hold up once the insurance dust settles. Did you know that medical is one of the primary causes of bankruptcy? Call me old fashioned, but I’d think an aging conservative demographic might want to spend some time taking that into consideration.
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I hope you’re still singing that tune when the face-eating leopards eventually eat your face.
Because it’d be the first time you’ve proven to actually tell the truth.
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“Although mechanistic studies support the potential effect of hand hygiene or face masks, evidence from 14 randomized controlled trials of these measures did not support a substantial effect on transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza.” Xaio May 2020.
If you think for one goddamned second that any study with a China name like Xaio would be taken into account in the Trump administration, that some high-level cognitive dissonance you’ve got crawling in your ass, Chet.
Trump don’t play with no fucking Chinese commies, Chip!
You a fucking commie, Chunt?
Don’t you go disrespecting Trump, Chitforbrains!
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“gheir”
gesundheit
Oh. Sorry were you were being pretentious twat and it blew up in your face again, or did you just sneeze?
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…they are STILL bitching about masks.
Shit, I wish that was still the big whine of the day.
The good ‘ol days of the ‘infection party’ rally-going deniers who died from a ‘hoax’, and the marketing skills of people who never miss a grift selling their Superblue Silver Immune Gargle?
Good times.
At least during COVID, we had the abundance of news infotainment where they considered infection some kind of thing they could choose to not believe in, even to the point where they were suffocating alone in an ICU with a tube down their throat.
Now they’re just waddling around with oxygen tanks complaining about how expensive things are since they can no longer work, while they navigate the disability bureaucracy that they plan on voting to defund.
It’s just not the same anymore.
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Fatal? Come on now. Covid is not likely to be fatal to your kid unless they’ve just had a bone marrow transplant or something. It’s more likely that they’d die in an accident on the way to school.
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More than a million people in the U.S. alone have died from COVID-19, so yes, it can be a fatal disease. And we still have no idea how Long COVID will affect people years down the line, especially kids.
He didn’t win over the nation the first time either, just the electoral college.
As you would be done by
Seems that the proper response is to simply file a public records request for all emails in the AG’s office regarding Professor Turner, after all if he’s making public records requests instead of subpoena’s or search warrants, then it seems unlikely he could make a credible claim that it can’t be handed over because it’s an ongoing investigation.