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Conspiracy Channel OAN Tries To Survive Using Over The Air Antennas

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Thu, Oct 6th 2022 12:36pm -

When last we checked in with One America News (OAN), it was trying (with the help of numerous Republican AGs) to pretend that DirecTV’s decision to boot the barely watched conspiracy network from its cable lineup was part of a vast, diabolical cabal to censor conservatives (it wasn’t). It then decided to attack Verizon, right before that cable provider kicked it to the curb as well.

That has left the conspiracy theory peddling network to try and survive amidst a crowded market of right-wing propaganda mills that flood the zone with endless gibberish and victimization porn. But OAN is also apparently hoping to leverage old TV antennas and over the air broadcasts to keep its reach alive:

OAN is signing up partners to broadcast on so-called “subchannels.” OAN airs on free, over-the-air channels in about 30 markets and plans to be in about 100 by the end of this year, according to a person familiar with the company’s strategy who asked not to be identified because the plans aren’t public. The markets include Pittsburgh; Las Vegas; Wichita, Kansas; Jacksonville, Florida; and Birmingham, Alabama. 

A government mandated shift to digital broadcasting freed up airwaves for TV station owners to create multiple additional new channels. These “subchannels” are predominantly filled with reruns of old sitcoms and gameshows. Now, viewers will get to enjoy unhinged election conspiracies, race-baiting disinformation, and programming that undermines public health messaging.

While not insubstantial, the channel’s range will remain constrained. Only about 15% of US households still use over the air antennas, and while that’s up from 10% in 2010, it’s still a tiny fraction of the already small reach the far right wing propaganda outlet saw on traditional cable.

Despite making a lot of headlines for its batshit claims (like the idea COVID was crafted in a North Carolina lab), the news channel never really saw all that many actual viewers. One estimate pegged daily viewership at around 14,000 a few years ago, and that was before the channel got kicked off of DirecTV and Verizon, its biggest distributors.

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Chozen (profile) says:

“Despite making a lot of headlines for its batshit claims (like the idea COVID was crafted in a North Carolina lab)”

As said before while you are making a strawman argument the involvement of the North Carolina lab in COVID-19 is no secret. The patent to create the chimeric corona virus is owned by NCU. It was this patent that lead to the ban on gain of function research in the US. If the Wuhan lab did create COVID-19 they did so using the patented process developed by Dr. Baric at NCU.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:4

You’d think so, but consider the number of people who claim they can’t ejaculate without slathering their cocks with Bengay/Icyhot, and the sheer amount of vore and gore R34.

There is an entire slew of alternative porn that has somehow evolved from an inherent desire to win the Darwin Awards. For some reason. But love wins, right?

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:7

Well, there’s at least one self-styled violent trans-right activist that’s using “love” as an euphemism for violence making the rounds here.

It’s true that there’s no organized efforts for trans rights terrorism exist. Unlike the white supremacists, who ARE being tracked by yhe FBI, hilariously enough.

Can’t discount the crazy lone wolves, though.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:8

there’s at least one self-styled violent trans-right activist that’s using “love” as an euphemism for violence making the rounds here

And I can all but guarantee that said troll is a right-winger who’s trying to sound like what they think a radical queer rights activist would sound like if an anti-heterosexual queer rights activist with anything approaching a scintilla of credibility actually existed.

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Chozen (profile) says:

Re: Re: Funny

‘I refuse to accept that everything I beleived is a lie!’

Its funny how just about everyone else has moved on and admits that yes it was most likely a lab leak but people like you still think it was a pangolin.

What’s amazing about Karl is he is so stupid that the fist time he made this article was the exact same week that all of Dr. Baric’s colleagues were throwing him under the bus.

Yes given given a lab leak NCU was heavily involved in the creating of COVID-19. They own the patent on the technology nessacary to create the virus.

Rocky says:

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Its funny how just about everyone else has moved on and admits that yes it was most likely a lab leak but people like you still think it was a pangolin.

Its funny how just about anyone who understand the subject has moved on from the lab leak because there is not one single piece of actual data that corroborate that theory.

Only idiots takes ONE coincidence and think it is a fact proving a chain of events with no other supporting evidence.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Re:

So what?

According to conservative “thought” COVID is:

  • Just the flu
  • Gone by easter
  • A deep state plot (generic flavor)
  • A plot to take down Trump
  • A plot to inject people with trackers
  • Fake news
  • Treatable with horse dewormer
  • Difficult to contract
  • Controllable through voluntary infection

So why do you fucking care where it comes from, given the majority of your peers haven’t decided on whether the reality of the situation even exists yet?

Stick to blabbering on about your degrees and how OAN will triumph over Dish and DirecTV. At least that way you minimize how many topics you make yourself look like a fool over.

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TFG says:

Re: Re: Re:5

I eventually got it to work. The link you provided does not actually contain the text, but instead links to https://patents.google.com/patent/US9884895B2

Reading the text of this patent (here’s a below snip):

“…the present invention provides a method of producing an immune response to a coronavirus in a subject, treating a coronavirus infection in a subject, preventing a disease or disorder caused by coronavirus infection in a subject and/or protecting a subject from the effects of coronavirus infection, comprising administering to the subject an effective amount of the chimeric coronavirus spike protein, the isolated nucleic acid molecule the vector and/or the composition of this invention, or any combination thereof, thereby producing an immune response to a coronavirus in the subject, treating a coronavirus infection in the subject, preventing a disease or disorder caused by coronavirus infection in the subject and/or protecting the subject from the effects of coronavirus infection.”

This isn’t the invention of a coronavirus. This is the invention of a method of preparing the body to fight a coronavirus.

The patent denotes a method to recreate just the spike protein, which is the intrusion method the virus uses. It is, in effect, the lockpick. None of the other parts of the virus are part of this patent, so this doesn’t provide a reproductive or propagation method.

To put it in computer terms, this is the penetration test, to see if access can occur and give the body practice at identifying and destroying intruders.

I fully expect that you will choose to ignore this truth – but the simple fact of the matter is that this patent is for treatment and prevention. It provides tools for protection.

Hope that clears this up for anyone who might have been wondering if there was any weight to this claim.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:6

There’s negative weight to any of Chozen’s claims, and for this one in particular, there’s no conspiracy theory, just cooperation between two now politically antagonistic countries.

He should have been shot at birth, but he still breathes and threatens to rape anyone who doesn’t want to listen to him.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:8

Okay, won’t do that in future.

But we still have the problem of a NeoNazi asshole who harasses the shit out of users and the owner of the site, threatening to rape those who can win against him in a debate, and is more than happy to see actual fascists murderfuck the rest of us though.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:9

Given how unhinged Chozen is, it’s only a matter of time before whatever meager usefulness he can provide to Republicans peters out, at which point they’ll do the same as what Trump did once the Jan 6thers started making claims in court: throw him under the bus and forget he ever existed.

It’s either that or the traditional obsession with the 2nd Amendment will sort him out instead.

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Scary Devil Monastery (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:

I so love it when laymen spouting alt-right talking points try their hand at science.

1) Yes, Coronavirus has been researched for decades. Building surface proteins artificially is part and parcel of – ta-DAH – vaccine manufacture. And of course part and parcel of generally finding out what makes the damn thing tick and how it causes its effects.

2) “Coronavirus” in its many variants is an old one – Sars-CoV-1 was heavily investigated and at least a hundred universities have one or more studies published about them. Sars-CoV-2 will be in every lab or university remotely engaged in pandemic research. And has been since right when the pandemic first started. Same as every influenza strain dating back to the 30’s.

3) Courtesy of US patent laws and the toxic fallout from project HUGO getting patent trolled by participants acting in bad faith every time a university studies a process involving a protein, a patent is now registered so no rent-seeking patent troll comes to camp their lawn. It’s been that way for decades.

Your logic is strictly analogous to pointing at a vet and asserting that since you found a dog in there they were responsible for Cujo, or an assertion that since a car maker sells Fords it must be complicit in the bank robbery where a GM vehicle was used. It’s fucking embarrassing to have to read.

Get fucking lost, Chozen. Along with your conspiracy la-la land where thousands of research scientists and doctors all around the globe are minions of Bond villains and your alt-right facebook rando gets treated like a got dam prophet when they cough up a dystopian fairy tale which means the globe as a whole is in the hands of some shady cabal.

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Chozen (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:2

You really said nothing there.

“Inside the risky bat-virus engineering that links America to Wuhan”

https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/06/29/1027290/gain-of-function-risky-bat-virus-engineering-links-america-to-wuhan/

You are kid of ignoring that Dr. Baric UNC worked and in glove with Dr. Shi, Wuhan AKA China’s Bat Lady.

Dr. Baric and UNC figure relatively high in the Lancets analysis of possible COVID-19 origins.

IMHO (which is still more qualified that fucking Karl) is the the legal work was done in the US primarily at UNC and the illegal work was done in China.

Kind of the norm now adays right? We will do what we can do legally here and outsource the illegal shit to china.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:3

So what you’d like to say is the US and China intentionally collaborated on creating a pandemic-level disease, let it spread in China, and then the US, while pursuing all manner of terrible decisions that encouraged infection rates even further. During the Trump administration. That’s the argument you want to make?

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Chozen (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:4

I’m claiming exactly what Fauci said in 2012.

“In an unlikely but conceivable turn of events, what if that scientist becomes infected with the virus, which leads to an outbreak and ultimately triggers a pandemic? Many ask reasonable questions: given the possibility of such a scenario – however remote – should the initial experiments have been performed and/or published in the first place, and what were the processes involved in this decision?

Scientists working in this field might say – as indeed I have said – that the benefits of such experiments and the resulting knowledge outweigh the risks. ”

That risk Fauci was talking about “scientist becomes infected with the virus, which leads to an outbreak and ultimately triggers a pandemic”

Is most likely happened.

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Chozen (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:7

“lab/Fauci made COVID” he was funneling the money to Wuhan through an intermediary the EcoHealth Alliance after HHS banned the funding of gain of function research. And FYI while written in general the bad was targeted directly at the NIH and Fauci.

If you haven’t noticed that little narcissist is not the kind of person who is going to listen at all to a superior.

Scary Devil Monastery (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:3

““Inside the risky bat-virus engineering that links America to Wuhan””

…he says, doubling down on proving what an idiot he is.

As an M.Sc in biology I was able to download and obtain the genetic sequence of yersinia pestis, H1N1, Ebola Zaire and DENV. The article you linked to literally describes normal bioscience research behavior.

And experimentation with SARS in particular has been extremely popular ever since epidemiologists rang the bell and ran up the red flag back when Sars-CoV-1 hit. This exact type of research has been going on in every nation, in multiple labs dedicated to studying epidemics.

So I repeat – the analogy is that you saw a dog at a vet’s clinic and then went off the handle shouting about how that was the proof that veterinarian was complicit for some unrelated rabid pooch biting people three states over.

This may be why you alt-right morons have such a tenuous grasp of reality. You hear a talking point and fail to get that what some rando frothed at the mouth choking out in stentorian tones happens to be just business as usual.

And the icing on that shit cake you keep trying to serve is that the apparent purpose of this crap is the production of a virus which has only negatives for every last one of the powers that be in this world and is as likely or more to kill the old farts holding the reins of power.

This is why you conspiracy nuts are so fucking hopeless. Not only do you come up with convoluted plots ostensibly pushed by shady unnamed illuminati-like organizations, your very assertions also makes it inescapable that said organizations would be helmed by nigh-suicidal morons who could easily use the power required for the hush-hush to obtain and exercise far more power far more easily without ever straying from fully legitimate paths of power.

Reality is not kind enough to let a group of Snidely Whiplash wannabees get literally anywhere. The closest you get to that sort of cartoonish villain is Trump and Putin, both of whom are heading for a fall.

Tanner Andrews (profile) says:

subset of potential viewers

While not insubstantial, the channel’s range will remain constrained. Only about 15% of US households still use over the air antennas

The problem here is similar to the problem they had on cable. Where ONE may have been available in a large number of households which had cable TV, the actual viewership was but a tiny fraction of that.

Over the air has some reach; 15% of households is a large number. Once again, the problem is that many viewers will not choose to watch the service. OAN may be able to boost their viewership by having a celebrity endorser, e.g. a former president, tout the service in the afflicted markets.

estimate pegged daily viewership at around 14,000 a few years ago
That might be easily beaten with over the air. Pick 20 large and mid-sized markets, get a thousand viewers in each, and there you are.

Pittsburgh; Las Vegas; Wichita, Kansas; Jacksonville, Florida; and Birmingham, Alabama

See, there you are. Surely the wingnut community in Jax is big enough to deliver its thousand. I imagine the same is true of the other markets indicated. We are only asking for a tiny portion of 1% of the population in order to reach these numbers.

If, as one commentator above noted, these airwaves are already filled with mypillow commercials, then perhaps OAN will have an obvious advertising partner. Never mind that one commentator likened the mypillow experience to sleeping with a sack of rocks, this may be an opportunity for viewers to stay awake to watch.

If they stay awake long enough, maybe they will get to see ``preview” fixed on the new techdirt platform, so that javascript is not required.

Tanner Andrews (profile) says:

subset of potential viewers

While not insubstantial, the channel’s range will remain constrained. Only about 15% of US households still use over the air antennas

The problem here is similar to the problem they had on cable. Where ONE may have been available in a large number of households which had cable TV, the actual viewership was but a tiny fraction of that.

Over the air has some reach; 15% of households is a large number. Once again, the problem is that many viewers will not choose to watch the service. OAN may be able to boost their viewership by having a celebrity endorser, e.g. a former president, tout the service in the afflicted markets.

estimate pegged daily viewership at around 14,000 a few years ago

That might be easily beaten with over the air. Pick 20 large and mid-sized markets, get a thousand viewers in each, and there you are.

Pittsburgh; Las Vegas; Wichita, Kansas; Jacksonville, Florida; and Birmingham, Alabama

See, there you are. Surely the wingnut community in Jax is big enough to deliver its thousand. I imagine the same is true of the other markets indicated. We are only asking for a tiny portion of 1% of the population in order to reach these numbers.

If, as one commentator above noted, these airwaves are already filled with mypillow commercials, then perhaps OAN will have an obvious advertising partner. Never mind that one commentator likened the mypillow experience to sleeping with a sack of rocks, this may be an opportunity for viewers to stay awake to watch.

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egftechman (profile) says:

Only one thing will matter to broadcaster pitch

As long as OAN stays within the FCC rules for content over public airwaves (no Janet Jackson incidents), the only thing most FCC broadcast license holders (the broadcasters) will look at is what kind of revenue can adding the network give them. Are they able to sell it locally (are there local ad insertion breaks and will the local sales staff be able to sell the channel), do they get revenue sharing from the national ads, will OAN simply buy the time on their channel?

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Chozen (profile) says:

Thank You Theater Major

Thank you theater major on educating us peons on chimaric chronia viruses.

“PATENT SUMMARY
Methods and compositions for chimeric coronavirus spike proteins
Patent US-9884895-B2
Inventor
BARIC RALPH (US)

AGNIHOTHRAM SUDHAKAR (US)

YOUNT BOYD (US)

Assignee
UNIV NORTH CAROLINA CHAPEL HILL (US)

Dates
Grant
2018/02/06

Priority
2014/03/20”

https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/patent/US9884895

We got Mike and MBA and Karl a fucking theater major writting on TechDirt.

These two fucking nitwits dont know the first fucking thing about technology.

The technology needed to create COVID-19 in the Wuhan lab as invented in and patented by UNC.

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Chozen (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:3

“Remember, this is the guy who insists having perfect spelling is the sign of being fucked in the head. Going by how overall legible his spelling is…”

And posted studies to prove it. Good spelling doesn’t correlate to high intelligence its actually an inverse correlation. Intelligent people are more often that not horrible spellers that’s why Hemmingway and Twain had editors.

A huge part of intelligence is pattern recognition. English bastard mutt of a language that it is follows no patterns. As such intelligent people tend to not be good spellers in English but excellent spellers in most other languages that have set rules. The English written language by its nature is an insult to intelligence. I before E except after C unless as an A as a neighbor in weigh. Except all the other exceptions that are too numerous to list.

And no I dont hate to burst your bubble I love it.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:4

Good spelling doesn’t correlate to high intelligence its actually an inverse correlation.

Yes. Now count the number of spelling errors you’ve made in the previous comment you made.

Hell, count the number of spelling errors you’ve made in the one I just replied to. How many did you find? Zero? Yeah, that’s what I thought. Go “inverse correlation to intelligence” yourself.

Scary Devil Monastery (profile) says:

Re:

…and you know even less, as clearly demonstrated by your links and assertions – which really aren’t saying what you appear to think they’re saying.

But I guess to the conspiracy nut a few thousand topic experts in agreement on the origins of Sars-CoV-2 appear to be random noise as compared to the perceived credibility of some rando in a trailer posting X-file fanfic scripts on meta or parler.

Here’s a tip, Chozen. Get yourself a bachelors or masters in biology. Then, once you have the learning to fact-check your talking points and actually grok what your links keep telling you, we can all expect your shamefaced “Gee, what an idiot I was”.

For now you’re just a part of the cult of ignorance who refuses to realize that in the real world where science is concerned the single “truthsayer” going against scientific consensus will always turn out to be a crackpot, not a whistleblower.

Chozen (profile) says:

Re: Re:

The lancet commission just published a paper on SARS-COVID-2. Key findings that origins remain unknown but you are sure it came from a pangolin.

All though if you read the commissions report the lab leak is the more likely source if you have half a brain.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(22)01585-9/fulltext

173 experts but you chose to believe those who had a hand in the cookie jar.

Rocky says:

Re: Re: Re:

You are one tragic fellow, the report isn’t actually about pointing out where the pandemic started, it’s a report about the events (known and unknown) that led to a pandemic and how to mitigate them in the future. When you want to mitigate something you actually have to take into account all the scenarios, real and imagined, and come up with responses to them. Just let me quote a part of the report so you perhaps understand:

We concur with the position of 18 leading scientists who wrote in Science magazine in May, 2021: “We must take hypotheses about both natural and laboratory spillovers seriously until we have sufficient data.”

There is yet not sufficient data. Only fools jump to conclusions even the scientist they refer to don’t want to make.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Re:

“You mean the people who were comitting a felony by violating the US ban on gain of function research?”

Dates
Grant
2018/02/06

If only someone had appointed a person to the DOJ who was competent enough to catch it.

Alas that’s what happens when you elect a dumbfuck to the highest office in the country, isn’t it?

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Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:

I’m bright enough to know the difference between when something was filed versus when the patent was actually granted.

I’m also bright enough to know that just because someone files a patent, it doesn’t mean that it will be granted.

Anything else?

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:

And it was filed when the US was trying to promote research in coronaviruses, something China actually partook in in a joint effort with the US, back when Xi had half a brain and pretended to play nice…

Despite his country having a history of hiding pertinent info regarding pandemics.

LostInLoDOS (profile) says:

Right to business decisions

Like it or not.

OAN has the right to broadcast with any host willing to platform them.
Period.

I’m not seeing anything here from Karl that’s exactly worthy of a long complaining article.
Seriously , so what?!?

Rational people, when faced with something they don’t like, move on!
Nobody is forcing you to tune in to station 50.3b, or whatever. If you don’t like it don’t watch.

LostInLoDOS (profile) says:

Re: Re:

Most authors at tech dirt are fairly competent. Mike has a an interesting take on things from experience.
Not everyone has the same thoughts or opinions.
That’s what makes everyone different. It’s a good thing.

The questioning here is “who cares” except those that watch or those that want to silence others?

nasch (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:

The questioning here is “who cares” except those that watch or those that want to silence others?

The question is, why did you bother reading the article and commenting on it if the subject is so uninteresting to you? The headline made it quite clear what it’s about. Did you do so just to have something to complain about? Because that would be a nice little irony.

That One Guy (profile) says:

Re: The world is so blessed they've only used that code here...

Another victim of TD’s magical coding that forces people to read articles they don’t want to…

The point of the article isn’t to say they don’t have the right to do what they are doing, it’s to document their downward spiral as platform after platform decides that they’d rather not be associated with the lunatics throwing tantrums, leaving the station scrambling to find any way to get their content out.

If that’s not something you’re interested in reading then practice what you preach and ignore it.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:3

If you wanna play dumb, then…

“If you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime.”

The idea espoused is that if you do a crime, you are lilely able to face the consequences of doing said crime. Say, for example, if you steal a loaf of bread, regardless of why you did it, it is ASSUMED you are willing to serve your sentence.

Similarly…

You made your comment. It is ASSUMED you are more than able to take the flak for whatever you said.

And if you still refuse to get it, “IF YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE HEAT, GET OUT OF THE KITCHEN.”

If you can’t fucking handle criticism, take your own advice and ignore these sorts of articles.

Unless you want to ideologically defend the shitstains written about. Then, I’d highly advise you fuck off.

LostInLoDOS (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:4

Interesting how half-hearted attacks all fail to make any commentary on the posted comment.

Other than crying that something you don’t like exists somewhere there is no really likelihood to see without trying to find it:
What is the point of the article. Because all this does is point more attention towards something the author doesn’t like.

Scary Devil Monastery (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:

“the Techdirt blog relies on a proven economic framework to analyze and offer insight into news stories about changes in government policy, technology and legal issues that affect companies’ ability to innovate and grow. As the impact of technological innovation on society, civil liberties and consumer rights has grown, Techdirt?s coverage has expanded to include these critical topics.”

That’s Techdirt’s literal mission statement right there. To note that a media platform popular with a certain type of crowd which pushes a certain type of narrative is becoming less popular with incumbent infrastructure is most certainly within the expected parameters.

The point is that this type of OP is exactly the sort of post you’d expect TD to write about.

And for those of us who like to be at least somewhat in the know of the state of one of the alt-right’s favorite grievance dealers it is indeed useful to know.

That One Guy (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:

When your opinion flies right in the face of your own criticism expect to be called out on it.

If you want to push the idea of ‘If you don’t like it ignore it’ then follow your own advice and ignore articles like this in the future, you may not see the point of them but other people find them entertaining and/or a way to be informed of the ongoing trainwreck of the channel as those pesky ‘consequences’ catch up to it.

That One Guy (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:3

If past articles haven’t clued you in that they’re not likely to get an article overflowing with praise for them that’s rather on you.

Likewise if you don’t want to read about their entertaining and pathetic downward spiral as they scramble to find any platform willing to host them then follow your own advice and stop reading the articles.

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Chozen (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:8

It can be, epically in the context of evil people in prison. If it wasn’t Seinfeld wouldn’t have done the OZ skit.

You are just a stupid person with no life. Since you cant make actual arguments you just seek ways to label people so you can discount their arguments out of hand because you are too pantheistic to actually debate them.

You have probably been doing it your entire life. You are worthless.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:9

It can be

Just so we’re clear: Do you sincerely believe the act of forcefully penetrating someone’s vagina and/or anus against their will with a phallic object of some kind can be funny? (I don’t give a shit about the context⁠—I’m talking about the actual physical act of rape.) And if you can’t find the act of rape funny in and of itself, what makes it funny when it happens to someone you hate, other than your own hateful attitudes⁠—i.e., what would make me being raped funny to you?

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Chozen (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:4

I never threatened anyone with rape. I have said that BigTech executives need to stop and think about the consequences if they keep upping the war with the states. That means they need to take prison rape into account then they make their judgements. Any reasonable person would take if they can or cannot survive in prison into account when thinking about illegal or soon to be illegal acts.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:5

BigTech executives need to stop and think about the consequences if they keep upping the war with the states. That means they need to take prison rape into account then they make their judgements.

See, that sounds like you’re threatening “BigTech executives” with some form of rape if they don’t allow all legal speech onto their platforms⁠—or, at a bare minimum, you’re open to other people making those threats.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:7

I have said that political affiliation will be added to states’ civil rights codes.

So what? That doesn’t mean it’s going to happen because you say so. And I’ve heard of no serious efforts to do that in any state (including California).

For now, you have to live with the fact that every social media service⁠—from Twitter and Facebook to Gab and Parler to every single motherfucking Mastodon instance⁠—can choose to ban speech that some people might associate with a certain political affiliation. Don’t come crying to me about “viewpoint discrmination” or “political discrmination” if Twitter bans someone who happens to identify as a conservative for posting anti-queer speech. If you associate anti-queer speech with that political ideology, that says more about the ideology (and about you) than it ever will about Twitter.

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Chozen (profile) says:

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“if Twitter bans someone who happens to identify as a conservative for posting anti-queer speech. If you associate anti-queer speech with that political ideology, that says more about the ideology (and about you) than it ever will about Twitter.”

Well I have thick skin so I dont really care. But what is anti-queer speech? When some WASP dipshit here heard dancing and equated that with lap dances was that anti-queer or racist? Was his/her jump to lap dancing because of homophobia or racism? Both? Dont know dont really care. Just a sign of more hypocrisy from woke morons.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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what is anti-queer speech?

Among other things: using anti-queer slurs, expressing negative stereotypes about queer people, and promoting the torturous experience known as “conversion ‘therapy’ ”.

When some WASP dipshit here heard dancing and equated that with lap dances was that anti-queer or racist?

It was a potshot at a thin-skinned ass who thinks rape is funny and wants to force racist and anti-queer speech onto platforms that wouldn’t otherwise host it. Don’t expect me to have sympathy for you; you lack the dignity necessary for me to pity you. At least I know I’m an undignified garbage person⁠—what’s your excuse for coming here (besides your own self-hatred)?

That One Guy (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:8 Even if they were right they'd still be wrong

So what? That doesn’t mean it’s going to happen because you say so. And I’ve heard of no serious efforts to do that in any state (including California).

It’s even worse than that for their argument because even if political affiliation was added to the list of protected classes asshole isn’t a political affiliation, no matter how many times dishonest people try to conflate the two for personal gain.

Just like how a store can’t kick someone out for being black yet is still allowed to kick a black person out for being disruptive and harassing other customers/staff even if social media wasn’t allowed to kick people off for self-identifying as conservative/republican(which they already don’t do) they could still kick them off for being disruptive and/or hostile towards other users, such that the only way they could get their way is if they made it outright illegal to have acceptable use/behavior policies and legally barring sites for holding users accountable for what they say and do.

Anonymous Coward says:

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Oops.

That entire thread I just linked is you trying to victim blame one of the regular users on the site, too. After threatening to rape him. Or to commit a form of sexual assult on him.

Here’s you admitting why you’re harassing us.

And here’s one of you trying to harass Mike. After all, you already slander Mike, what’s a little rape threat?

You don’t deserve any sort of dignity and regardless of your identity, you fucking threaten, harass and spread disinformation, while idiotically repeating “Republican” talking points.

Your family history only makes you all the more reprehensible.

You don’t deserve even the sort of screaming debate democracy is noted to have at times. You deserve, at least, a fucking restraining order from this site and its regulars. And personally, you deserve to be shot. You, Hymen Rosen, Koby and the 73 million who silently supported insurrection.

And yes, I already fuck myself. Daily. By being a Singaporean citizen. Your lack of sympathy is not wanted.

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Chozen (profile) says:

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Did you see what he linked? I told Stephen who is an obviously closeted gay man to go to a club, pick up a dude, and give him some pleasure. That is hardly a epar threat.

That is threatened Stephan with epar is just a hilarious example of how the group think works here at this pathetic blog. Kind of like how all you morons thought Pruneyard wasn’t law anymore because Mike said so enough times only to just have it thrown in your face by the 5ht circuit with over 30 citations.

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Chozen (profile) says:

Back to the UNC. There is a good reason the cooperate press pushed the pangolin theory.

Corporate press represents the corporate state. What was clearly going on between the US and Wuhan was that what was legal was being performed in the US and what was illegal was outsourced to China.

This is not unique to gain of function research. This is standard corporate policy. Outsource everything we cant legally do in the US to China.

Up until COVID-19 no one cared because those being harmed were in China. We didn’t care the slave labor made our Nikes. Now we have a tangible case where this reckless outsourcing actually harmed millions of Americans. As such the corporate press circled the wagons.

Reckless outsourcing to China couldn’t have been the cause of COVID-19 because everyone recklessly outsources to China.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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Okay, and…so what? At least I’m not having my posts flagged on sight and being told to fuck off every time I pop up. (Not that I don’t deserve it sometimes, but still.) What’s your excuse for coming back here to have your ass carved up and served back to you by people who don’t respect you in any way?

Anonymous Coward says:

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When chucklenuts like Chozen have absolutely no meaningful argument to make, they’ll fall back on grandstanding and stroking their own e-peen, as an indication that they think they’re magnanimous enough to lower themselves and speak on the level of peons. Which is funny when you think about it – instead of using their influence and money to achieve favorable outcomes they’d rather boast about it on a website they insist has a small readership frequented by equally insignificant users. It’s like masturbating in a puddle and calling the result a tsunami.

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Chozen (profile) says:

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I made no such threat.

I said “Mike’s about to get a Texas sized dick up his ass so he is a little upset.” In relation to the Texas social media law. That you take a bisexual man making an ‘your about to get fucked’ joke as a epar threat is a sign of homophobia on your part.

I actually pull that Joke directly from George Carlin. Was George Carlin making a rape threat then he said “Actually, it’s our way of saying ‘Bend over just a little farther
so we can stick this big advertising dick up your ass a little bit deeper, a little bit deeper, a little bit DEEPER, you miserable no-good dumbass fucking consumer!’?

Why in your mind when a bisexaul man makes the same hyperbolic joke its suddenly an epar threat?

I think you have some personal issues when it comes to gay people.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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If it isn’t funny it wouldn’t be part of comedy.

Yes or no: Do you believe the act of forcibly penetrating someone’s mouth, vagina, and/or anus with a phallic object against their will⁠—possibly even as they’re vocally protesting or physically fighting against that penetration⁠—is, in and of itself, inherently comedic in nature?

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