Facebook Going After Designbook Because All The Books Are Belong To Them
from the book-it dept
Facebook has long made the silly argument that it has some kind of untoward iron-clad trademark on all things “book.” Hell, even the site’s user agreement contains a provision that by signing it, you agree that Facebook has a trademark on “book”, as though such agreements actually meant anything. And, throughout time immemorial (or at least as long as the site has been popular), Facebook has aggressively pursued trademark claims on anyone who dares to use “book” within their sites’ names or company names.
Just in case anyone was wondering, this hasn’t stopped. Most recently, Facebook has informed a startup called Designbook of its intention to oppose the startup’s trademark application.
“We don’t believe that any of our branding is related to theirs,” [co-creator] Pollak said, in an article published yesterday by Boston magazine. “Our logo is completely different, different colors, different fonts.”
Pollak and Clark say their name was inspired by the design books they used in school. It’s a “really specific thing when you’re an engineer… It’s your prototype book, where you keep track of your projects, your ideas, and your inventions.” Facebook hasn’t commented on the situation, but Pollak describes it as a case of “trademark extortion and corporate bullying.”
Yes, much like many of the other examples that people tend to cite whenever Facebook decides it’s trademark-asshat time, such as phonebooks and scrapbooks, Designbook got its name from a source that has nothing to do with Facebook and isn’t going to be confused for Facebook. And, while Lamebook appears to have survived Facebook’s bullying, Designbook doesn’t have anything like humor and parody to rest on as a defense.
And it shouldn’t have to. Facebook has no registered trademark for “book” in the social media space. It tries to rely on its claim of an unregistered trademark, but they’re full of shit. If such a trademark could get approved, it would have been by now, rather than the claim’s most solid standing existing in a EULA. Here’s hoping Designbook can fight this once the opposition is filed.
Filed Under: books, trademark
Companies: designbook, facebook
Comments on “Facebook Going After Designbook Because All The Books Are Belong To Them”
Nice title
Facebook Going After Designbook Because All The Books Are Belong To Them
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We can even pirate it up….
Facebook Going After Designbook Because All The Books Arrrrrrrrr Belong To Them.
Re: Nice title
How about going old school meme
All your book are belong to us
Makes sense to me
I know anytime I hear the word ‘book’ I immediately think of FB, because let’s be honest, it’s not like any other site or object else uses that word.
Now if you’ll excuse me, I’m going to go read a bunch of ink printed on sheets of paper which is then bound together using adhesives and a slightly thicker piece of paper. If only I could remember what those things were called…
Re: Makes sense to me
I have always thought this to be a nefarious site and now I know.
Re: Makes sense to me
“If only I could remember what those things were called…”
Facepaper
Does this also mean that MySpace can take down NASA and other space agencies on trademark claims if they dare to include “space” in a web site name? Since most of them probably predated MySpace perhaps the claim could go the other way. Where does this insanity end?
Don’t forget; Microsoft claims a copyright on all things ‘bookshelf.’ And based on their other product names, no doubt they claim “word”, “front page”, “reader”, etc..
Randall Munroe of XKCD comic strip fame has a new book, Thing Explainer. In it he uses only the thousand most common English words to explain a variety of interesting things.
This is the future. Soon we’ll all be limited to a handful of words not bound by copyright law.
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That’s a fascinating problem. I’m imagining a recursive algorithm wrapped around a thesaurus. Maybe there’s a perl module for it.
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1000 words is considered the cutoff point for literacy.
I suspect the algorithm is that list.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_illiteracy#Remedial_reading
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or this list
http://splasho.com/upgoer5/phpspellcheck/dictionaries/1000.dicin
Is it the name? or the purpose?
“Kyle Clark and Aaron Pollak created “Designbook” last year. It’s a website meant as place for entrepreneurs to meet collaborators, new team members, and investors.”
So maybe it’s about a social networking site called ***book, rather than a deign site called ***book.
Re: Is it the name? or the purpose?
The problem there is that with the ubiquity that is facebook (that’s a problem in its own right with trademarks) not one person could reasonably confuse DesignBook with Facebook
anyone crack wise about guttenburg yet?
Re: Response to: Anonymous Coward on Jun 16th, 2015 @ 12:41am
That geek Guttenburg printed a tome known as the good book aka the Bible.
Re: Re: Response to: Anonymous Coward on Jun 16th, 2015 @ 12:41am
Steve Guttenburg? That guy ROCKED the Police Academy movies!
Re: Re: Response to: Anonymous Coward on Jun 16th, 2015 @ 12:41am
It’s spelt Gutenberg, and it’s a place, not a person. facepalms
Re: Re: Re: Response to: Anonymous Coward on Jun 16th, 2015 @ 12:41am
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Johannes_Gutenberg
Re: Re: Re:2 Response to: Anonymous Coward on Jun 16th, 2015 @ 12:41am
Thanks for the link. I genuinely thought Gitenberg was the name of the town where the first ever printing press was built, but I know better now.
To Be Fair, They Haven’t Tried To Stop Them Using The Name
A trademark doesn’t give you permission to use the name—you have that already. It allows you to prevent others from doing so.
Why can’t this cancer of a company just implode itself off the fucking landscape of humanity? Facebook is ground central for the giant blackhole-matrix of vapidity that most of the human slug-bogs are plugged into. Sickening.
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Facebook is ground central for the giant blackhole-matrix of vapidity that most of the human slug-bogs are plugged into.
Unfortunately, this is the kind of thing that grows and gets bigger – at least until the next giant blackhole-matrix of vapidity comes along.
If the complaint fails Zuckerberg needs hit in the face with a very thick hardcover book.. Multiple times.
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Suckerberk needs hit in the face with a very thick hardback book multiple times whether or not the complaint fails, but especially if it doesn’t. 😉
Already tried...
In the 1980s before the Bell system was split up they went after “Yellow Book” on the premise that it infringed and could be confused with the “Yellow Pages”.
Bell lost.
Today, however, both are becoming obsolete.
Facebook has every right to be terrified of even the smallest ‘rival’. Talk to any engineer working for facebook and theyll tell you how it’s a virtual graveyard. Over 200 million abandoned accounts. 50 million fake ‘nice’ accounts to impress potential employers and the almost complete lack of activity from teens in the US and EU….
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“almost complete lack of activity from teens in the US”
As the father to teen children, I can give a firsthand report: they consider Facebook to be incredibly lame. It’s where old farts and companies hang out.
corporate bullies
how ironic. apparently it’s ok to steal a concept and turn it into a billion dollar empire. in my book that’s one for the books (:)
Some Examples of *-book
bankbook
briefing book [Am politics]
checkbook
codebook [cryptography]
cookbook
databook [electronics, see also datasheet]
deskbook
factbook [‘movement’ politics tract, often far from factual]
handbook
logbook
passbook
paybook [brit. miltary, simultaneously an ID document and a bankbook for pay]
playbook [football]
tractbook [a small book, designed to be handed out to passers-by, see factbook]
That’s all I can think of, off the top of my head. Anyone care to raise me?
Re: Some Examples of *-book
Textbook, scrapbook, picturebook. It’s stupid we’re even discussing this (no offence intended).
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Notebook, lab-book, pattern-book [sewing]. “More contest!” as the pagan Irish warrior in the eighth-century epic said. Come on, my sons! Let’s have at least two hundred *-face words up here.
Wars are simultaneously very silly and very serious. That’s life. You don’t get to choose the game you want to play, but you must do the best you can with the game which chance, or circumstance, or fate, catapults you into.
One book to rule them all....
and in the darkness bind them!
Facebook will fade out in less than five years.
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