DailyDirt: Passwords Suck, But What's Better?

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Every service wants you to create a username and password… and it all begins to pile up after a while. Users try to make things easier for themselves by re-using passwords, but you’re really not supposed to do that. What are you supposed to do? Well, password management software exists, but only the truly paranoid folks spend the time to figure out which one of those is the one that works best for particular use cases and then actually set it up. (And then shit happens anyway.) Some companies are trying to figure out other solutions — here are a few of them.

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Anonymous Anonymous Coward says:

Re: This is just my opinion

Agreed. Once something is digitized, it becomes something that can be passed around on the interwebs.

It sure sounds like it might be more like personal recognition, but what if the identifying engine is only looking at a file, that might include some code to fudge a body temperature at the same time?

To that extent, with SSN’s and other data becoming so public, even with my passport and state issued photo drivers license, just how does one prove they are who they say they are?

dddimwrong (profile) says:

Re: This is just my opinion

Well we have been using biometrics for the password for the last 6 years with no problems. To enter secure areas or access certain services from the servers you enter your user-id and then your biometric scan must match for that user-id. For further security we have additional questions such as what was the color of the wall paper of your first apartment or other really obscure questions.

We feel strongly about the biometric we use because it has no law enforcement value and would be extremely hard to forge because the biometric is the vein pattern of a finger tip. The pattern is different finger to finger so you can use one finger for work and another for personal. Cutting off someone’s finger will not work as blood must be coursing through the veins. We even read blood pressure and oxygen content letting our employees know if they may need to see a doctor.

The point is that to eliminate fraud and to protect certain assets I need to be sure you are who you say you are and finger-vein technology is one of the best biometric passwords you can use. So I totally disagree with you and I say you are very wrong!!!!!!

Christenson says:

Big changes in typing patterns...

I *usually* touch type with all ten fingers…until…I am eating with my other hand…or it is all wrapped up in a mitten with hot wax on it so as to apply deep heat…

I sort the passwords into the really valuable ones and the lesser valued ones, memorize just a few, and keep the rest in my little black book.

Anonymous Anonymous Coward says:


PayPal wants me to ingest something of theirs? They are going to have to do a whole lot of work to get me to use their system for ANYTHING, let alone ingest something they condone, whether they built it or not. Just look at their track record.

Then after 10 or 15 years of watching their behavior I might think about the possibility of considering ingesting something they might suggest assuming FDA approval and 20 years of other people using it without ill effect.

So, not in my lifetime.

JoeCool (profile) says:

Re: PayPal

The biggest problem with any kind of ingestible or injectible ID is you’re telling crooks “I’ve got the key to my bank hidden in my stomache! Come get it!!” And many will not hesitate to do so. I would NEVER agree to any such ID, no matter what.

It’s a similar issue with biometrics – if your finger is the key to your stuff, crooks won’t hesitate to lopp it off to get the goodies.

Mason Wheeler (profile) says:

Re: PayPal

Just look at their track record.

What? Making it so easy to pay for stuff and send money around that they’ve become the default payment system for the Internet? Having a tech support system where it’s easy to reach a real human being? Running a mature, stable platform that’s been around since the 90s, so you can be confident it will still be there tomorrow?

Why would that track record make you want to not have anything to do with them?

Mason Wheeler (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re: PayPal

[citation needed]

A few times I’ve heard innuendos about how “everyone knows” that PayPal is evil and loves to screw its customers over. It’s a lot of the same stuff you hear about Google, except with even less in the way of actual examples of customers getting screwed over.

All I know personally is, I’ve been using PayPal pretty much forever and never once had a bad experience with their service.

Anonymous Coward says:


In server-space public and private keys work pretty well. A server that accepts passwords to SSH in is basically inevitably a malware hive. A keyring works pretty well there. A dongle or similar to hold a bunch of keys, using changing keys could work. The biggest downside there I can see is 5th amendment protection doesn’t apply to objects but it does to your brain.

Emelio Lizardo says:

I really don’t see the point of ‘biometric’ or any other form of physical identity as they can be easily duplicated.

Well, there is convenience, but such a device needs be universal.

Only something entirely in the user’s memory can’t be stolen.

Also, from a legal perspective, the courts could order the surrender of such a device, they can’t compel you to testify your password.

But let’s say we did have some universal biometric, such as a finger print reader, then governments could demand it as standard equipment and then know who you are with reasonable certainty all the time. You could be blocked from all internet connected devices. tracked.

John Fenderson (profile) says:

Re: Re:

“I really don’t see the point of ‘biometric’ or any other form of physical identity as they can be easily duplicated.”

Not all forms are easily duplicated, but the vast majority are. The bigger problem, though, is this: If your physical identity is stolen, there’s no way for you to change your “credentials”. You’re simply screwed.

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