Company Looking To Hire 'Piracy Investigators' Promising $500+ Per Night

from the or-they-could-spend-it-on-better-business-modeling dept

Reader TPBer alerts us to a Craigslist ad in San Antonio looking for “piracy investigators,” for whom they’re willing to pay $500+ per night to go around to various bars and other such venues seeking out places showing live sporting events on Pay-Per-View. Since Craigslist ads don’t last long, here’s a screenshot:

Of course, it seems like this ad was placed in the wrong section. Why put it in “services offered” rather than job opportunities? It doesn’t look like Craigslist charges for job ads in San Antonio (as it does elsewhere), so it’s not to avoid the fees.

Either way, the actual website this points to, is somewhat entertaining. Apparently, the whole thing involves a California-based company. The application page notes that any work you do will be “under the direction and license” of a California Private Investigator named Wayne & Associates, which appears to be owned by a guy named Randy Cervantes in LA.

As for how much the job pays, apparently, it’s based on how many venues you can find showing PPV events who haven’t paid up on your given night, and it works as follows:

With leads provided to you:
With a video: $100
W/out a video: $75

Self generated leads you come up with:
With a video: $175
W/out a video: $150

Also, to prove that people actually get paid, they’ve posted a pdf of checks to people, with some identifying information redacted (not very well, actually). They also list a Twitter account you can follow for “discrete notifications” of future jobs, but of course, all of the followers of that account (13 as of this posting) are listed publicly.

I also like the various requirements for the job, including that you have to call a ton of places up yourself the day before an event to ask if they’re showing the event, and then compare that to the “legal list” that is sent to you of places who have paid for a license. It also says that you cannot be “timid or shy” and that you shouldn’t apply for the job “if you’re on your last $20,” since they expect you to pay for your own gas to travel from bar to bar.

Anyway, the whole thing is a bit amusing, if you were wondering how operations like UFC (who is listed as a client) go about tracking down bars and such playing unauthorized showings of their events. It seems like a lot of money and effort for this sort of thing, but they must think that it leads to some sort of benefit.

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Gwiz (profile) says:

Re: Re:

Good luck if you accept this and rat out a group of folks who are affiliated with certain crime organizations. Said organizations usually make a lot of cash on sports betting/entertainment. I’m guessing shutting them down wouldn’t sit too well.

The Mafia vs. Hollywood in a caged death match is something I would actually pay money to see.

Ess (profile) says:

Somewhat fair I suppose

But as some people said, “Snitches get stitches” or “grounded and pounded”. There is a very real risk that recording video or taking pictures in bars that don’t pay could get you some stitches especially if you’re there alone and word gets out. That said theses bars make tonnes of money off of dragging people out to watch PPV events they don’t want to pay for at home so it seems like a fair target causing actual damage. Many bars will take in 10k or much more a night so why is the pay so low? If your taking all the risk, out of pocket for expenses, and then they use your information to sue, certainly for upwards of 10k since the law works so well in their favour, shouldn’t you be paid at least in the thousands? It seems like they only care about PPV infringement a little bit. Feel sorry for the suckers who need the cash but at that pay they might have to hire illegal immigrants, don’t fall for it.

Ryan Diederich says:


Back in the day, it was a crime for women to vote. They called it a crime.

And yet, society advanced, evolved, and made its way to a higher understanding of the equality of humanity.

Here too, piracy may be a crime, but it is a crime pushing back the greedy ones and setting them straight.

Its a sit in, a protest, WE WILL NOT PAY FOR IT.

Why is it any different from walking to work to boycott the bus?

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Piracy

Back in the day, it was a crime for women to vote. They called it a crime.

Women didn’t have the right to vote. It was never called a crime.

piracy may be a crime, but it is a crime pushing back the greedy ones and setting them straight.

No, it’s ripping off creators. You’re just trying to rationalize your greediness. Taking something without paying = greedy. duh. You’re fooling exactly no one.
And you’re a douche for even trying to peddle that stale bullshit.

Anonymous Coward says:

I work for this company and make a good living doing it. I work part time and the pay is Ok and with expiernace can pay a little more. The one that is making the money is the law office. This is a very safe job done right and as a family man i would not do it if it is usafe. I do believe that they are breaking the law, the bars that is…If you had a product someone was making money off of it illegaly you would want it stopped,

Danejah (profile) says:

There will always be doubters

Why not get up and work..Yes this company pays and YES it is exactly as the ad says. If you go in groups it is a lot easier to get the pirated clubs bas, shoe stores, and resturaunts. The fights cost just as you are required to pay but bars are charged based on how many people fit inside. Is it fair for an owner to stream a fight from his laptop FOR FREE charge you 6.00 for a beer and a 20 cover charge. NO..So why feel sympathy for them. Just as they feel they are making a living so am I….

Please speak of what you know, and if you are ready for this coming Saturday’s UFC so am I.. HOPE TO SEE you paying at these bars while I see the fight and GET PAID.. My checks in the mail……

Danejah (profile) says:


Actually this is a legit gig, and yes the ad is exactly as it states. I have been doing this for the last 5 years and it isn’t easy..JUST as the ad states..However, once you do it for a while you will notice patterns and know which areas are more prone to pirate particular fights. It is a whole lot easier when you have someone to go with you because trying to find parking places to be in a bar for less than 3-5 min gets expensive and wastes time. I have made over 1100 in a 4 hour window and as little as 0 in a 6 hour window with expenses that don’t get reimbursed. Gas, parking, entry fee’s when there is no pirated event on, etc. But when you do get a hit, entry fee’s are reimbursed and YES if you do video you get paid more. It is not a job for the dumb, non creative, confrontational, timid, or even for the lazy, last 20$ in my pocket type of person.

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