Because Flock Can’t Be Trusted, Cities Are Covering Cameras With Garbage Bags
from the low-tech-beats-hi-tech dept
Flock Safety doesn’t seem to care about anyone. Not its customers, not those captured by its cameras, not even the legislators trying to find a balance between safety and privacy.
Flock started out by pitching its cameras — with built-in license plate readers — to the kind of people with money to blow on unproven tech and the willingness to use it to keep unwanted people (read: not white) out of their neighborhoods. It soon expanded past the gated community market, courting cops who wanted to use the tech to track unwanted people (read: not white) who might be driving around in cars and existing.
As always, both parties (Flock/cops) claimed the tech was essential to capturing the “worst of the worst” — auto thieves, wanted felons, sex offenders, etc. And, as always, real-world use cases were more along the lines of oh, you know, tracking down women seeking abortion options or letting cops keep tabs on their ex-wives.
The problem with Flock isn’t necessarily unique to Flock. It’s a problem almost every third-party contractor creates. When thing go poorly (and they have gone very poorly for Flock recently), no one seems to know who’s responsible for removing the unwanted tech, much less who actually has the authority to shut a surveillance system down.
This has created a problem that has no immediate solution. When Dayton, Ohio shut down its Flock cameras, it had no idea whether contract termination meant the cameras were actually shut off. Worse, law enforcement officials didn’t seem to know either. A fix was needed, and Dayton found a cost-effective way of keeping Flock from operating the unwanted cameras until when (or if!) it decided to roll into town to remove them.
Jason Koebler has the details for 404 Media:
The city of Dayton, Ohio has covered its Flock automated license plate reader cameras with black trash bags in part because police there are unsure whether the cameras are still active and the city also doesn’t seem to know whether it is allowed to take the cameras down. The move comes after months of resident outrage, a scandal in which the city was sharing Flock camera data for immigration enforcement apparently on accident, and a $30,000 audit into how the cameras are being used.
You can see the problem. While the city may have terminated the contract and the PD stating it won’t use the cameras, there’s no real “OFF” switch on the end user side. Because the cameras aren’t truly owned by the city, it has to wait around for Flock to come get its boys. And even though the Dayton PD’s access portal may be dead because it’s parted ways with Flock, that doesn’t mean hundreds of law enforcement agencies around the US don’t have access to the cameras the city has determined can’t be used.
This isn’t speculation. This is something that has already been observed by other municipalities.
Cities are not sure what their contracts state how to extricate themselves from those contracts, or whether the cameras are recording (and where that data is going). This uncertainty highlights the problems associated with using private, third-party surveillance infrastructure. Last week, for example, the mayor of Menominee, Wisconsin said that Flock cameras in the city “have been activated without city council approval.”
That’s some shady shit right there. But it’s not even the shadiest thing Flock has done in terms of (1) supposedly deactivated cameras and (2) garbage bag-covered cameras. Late last year, the city of Evanston, Illinois covered Flock cameras in garbage bags until Flock came to remove them. Then this happened:
The city previously ordered Flock to shut down 19 cameras (18 stationary and one flex camera that can be attached to a squad car) provided by the company and put its contract with Flock on a 30-day termination notice on Aug. 26. The company took down 15 of the 18 stationary cameras by Sept. 8, only to reinstall all of them by Tuesday. This was apparently without authorization from city officials, who sent Flock a cease-and-desist order to take them back down.
What the actual fuck? And yeah, one might be inclined to chalk this up to a simple misunderstanding, but only if one isn’t familiar with Flock’s general disregard for municipal laws:
Company communications with state transportation agencies obtained via public records requests, and interviews with more than half a dozen former employees, suggest that in its rush to install surveillance cameras in the absence of clear regulatory frameworks, Flock repeatedly broke the law in at least five states.
One state in particular seemed to be hit particularly hard by Flock’s lawless expansion efforts:
In South Carolina, State Transportation Secretary Christy Hall told Forbes that since spring 2022, her staff has found more than 200 unpermitted Flock cameras during routine monitoring of public roads.
Hence the garbage bags. It appears Flock is willing to activate cameras it’s been instructed to deactivate. And that’s when it’s not installing cameras illegally or thumbing its nose at removal orders by reinstalling cameras it has just removed.
Private companies who pull this sort of shit would be shut down, if not banned, by cities if it involved anything other than cop tech. Somehow, Flock manages to ride this out by claiming to be a cop’s best friend, even as its pretending local laws and regulations don’t apply to it.
I would encourage cities looking to rid themselves of Flock cameras to go one step further: just pry them off the poles and toss them in the nearest dumpster. If Flock wants to retrieve its equipment, it can be directed to the nearest landfill. Or, if cities don’t feel comfortable doing this themselves, they can always host a few foreign exchange students to help ensure Flock cameras remain inoperable until removal.
Filed Under: alpr, law enforcement, mass surveillance, privacy, surveillance, surveillance abuse, tracking
Companies: flock, flock safety


Comments on “Because Flock Can’t Be Trusted, Cities Are Covering Cameras With Garbage Bags”
You dont need to threaten me with a good time.
One solution is to charge the executives or managers who are in charge of running or installing unlawful cameras.
Some youtube videos have noted a 700 mhz 4g and 5600 mhz 5g jammers will prevent the camera from working but also noted that it may break state laws regarding interference will law enforcement
There is no federal law that makes jamming it’s internet connection illegal but there are state laws regarding jammers for that purpose
Interference with law enforcement, yes
FCC, no
Don’t throw them in the nearest dumpster! Reverse engineer them so we can find out if they have backdoors that enable Flock to use them when they appear shut off.
I live in Dayton. I’ve been following this closely. My neighborhood association had police officers come to one of our meetings to present the technology and ask if we were interested or opposed.
The response was a resounding ‘NO’ from the majority, with a couple older people saying they wanted it, probably so they could stop inquiring on the whereabouts of wayward teens parents on Nextdoor.
We were assured they wouldn’t be used for immigration purposes. The police promised that only Dayton would have access to the data. Government officials claimed there would be rigorous oversight. None of these things were true.
The police learned about the larger network sharing of data in October of 2025. They presented an expansion of the system to city officials in January 2026 which was approved. They didn’t attempt to stop the cameras from collecting data until April 7th. They told city officials and the public about it May 1st 2026.
In a surprise move, one officer no longer works for the the police. He was responsible for the implementation and enabled network sharing. He had no oversight. He resigned and was not terminated. His compensation in 2025 was $146,688. He accrued 333 vacation hours and at his payrate of $72.27, he’ll still collect $25,000 by cashing those hours out because he resigned.
People are lived. The mayor has handled this, along with other recent controversy (like the police killing a guy after stopping him on a bicycle without a headlight), with so much grace and tact it is commendable. She’s a desperately needed asset to this city that’s working against decades of corruption and incompetence.
I don't see a big problem with this...
I don’t see a big problem with this. The cities that decide to terminate their Flock contracts should do so and provide notice that the cameras and any network hardware must be removed within 30 days (seems reasonable) or they will be released to the public domain. Then the cities law enforcement will pay no attention to anyone removing the cameras and hardware. Let that be widely known, and the problem will go away. As will the cameras. Although some of them might show up in online auction sites… call this “crowd sourcing” the surveillance removal.
The cameras are on city property. Terminate the contract and give Flock 30 days to remove them or make arrangements for their removal. If they’re still up after that, the city removes them and gives Flock 30 days to pay for the removal and either pick them up or arrange for them to be picked up. After that, the city auctions them off to pay for the removal.
How did the lawyers ever approve a contract that didn’t cover termination and removal in the first place?
Re:
They are unauthorised surveillance cameras. The software on them can’t be trusted. The city should swiftly disable them at the hardware level*, then make Flock deal with removing whatever remains of them.
*This includes painting over the lens, thought I’d go for a more fun option of leaving the cameras inoperable.