"...evil is subjective."
"Yes, but subjectivity is objective."
"Not in a rational scheme of perception."
"Perception is irrational. It implies imminence."
"But judgment of any system of phenomena exists in any rational, metaphysical or epistemological contradiction to an abstracted empirical concept such as being, or to be, or to occur in the thing itself, or of the thing itself."
"Yeah, I've said that many times."
You're really working me man. Every time you write about Starlink it seems like I have to add something to help keep you in check.
This time is especially egregious since Mike just wrote a piece regarding fact checking.
You reference 800,000 as the maximum GLOBAL subscriber market, and then link to a prior article you've written on Techdirt. Let me quote that article for you:
“According to his analysis of available capacity and anticipated usage, Moffett estimates that Starlink’s US TAM, at a full deployment of about 12,000 low-earth orbit (LEO) satellites (about 1,400 are in orbit today), is in the range of just 300,000 to 800,000 households, or less than 1% of the US market, Moffett notes.”
It's 800,000 IN THE US! Not globally. The next sentence in that article, again, which you wrote, adds this:
"On the maximum end, Moffett’s study guesstimates that Starlink could ultimately serve as many as 6 million US subscribers once the company upgrades the low orbit satellites and boosts overall satellite total to 42,000."
So...I hope this helps.
Musk never set out to solve the US Broadband issue, even if many of his fans may have cast Starlink in that vein.
Starlink is a method to generate cash flow to support Musk's Mars ambitions. Nothing more. In fact, if Musk can use Starlink to fund getting a million people on Mars, I'd guess he'd shut the whole network down the next day.
Karl, your points about Starlink are 100% true for the U.S. ISP marketplace. I beg you to acknowledge the global impact this company can have. Ultimately 6 million customers in the U.S., likely a similar number in Europe, India and China. Now we're up to 24 million global customers. It will be very interesting to see if Starlink will use that base to try innovative deployment strategies in Africa. Yes, Starlink will be a footnote in the U.S. broadband landscape, but it can still deliver a global impact if it can survive the growing pains that plague every company that attempts to build an operate a satellite constellation. Rebutting your narrowly focused reporting on this topic is starting to feel like a part-time job. Maybe you can join MY Watercooler club.
Karl's coverage consistently neglects the global impact Starlink will have. What he writes here is spot on for the U.S. market, but Starlink will have a huge impact from a global perspective.
Nice write-up that captures the expected U.S. market position for Starlink. However, for the second Starlink article on Techdirt in a row there is no mention of the international impact this company could have. The under-served rural market is global and much larger outside the US. While it won't disrupt established U.S. ISPs, the impact it may have globally could be momentous.
Elon is counting on Starlink to generate an enormous cash flow in order to fund his Mars ambitions.
"...485,000 simultaneous data streams at speeds of 100 Mbps..."
"485K data streams" <> "485K subscribers" as you wrote.
That bandwidth will support millions of subscribers.
Further, the article is focused on the U.S. market. Starlink will serve customers all over the globe.
Your core point is valid. Starlink will not disrupt ISP business in urban U.S. markets. But neither Vice, nor you, fully expressed the scope of Starlink's potential market.
Absolutely have loved being a Ting customer for the last five years. My family has low data needs and we pay just $71/mo for all four of our phones (about $18/phone). Best deal I've seen coupled with unmatched customer service. I fear this may be peak Ting. We shall see.
You write this article as if the "British" Open (The Open) is no longer such. In fact amateurs still get into the tournament and is open to nearly any good golfer. One route:
Thanks for Sharing Mike!
The Cleveland PD just gained a subscriber.
Incompetence is Competence - MoT
"But we really want it to be so"
This approach to law making reminds me of the Indiana Pi Law - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Pi_Bill
RSS FTW
But subjectivity is objective
"...evil is subjective." "Yes, but subjectivity is objective." "Not in a rational scheme of perception." "Perception is irrational. It implies imminence." "But judgment of any system of phenomena exists in any rational, metaphysical or epistemological contradiction to an abstracted empirical concept such as being, or to be, or to occur in the thing itself, or of the thing itself." "Yeah, I've said that many times."
Karl, Karl, Karl...
You're really working me man. Every time you write about Starlink it seems like I have to add something to help keep you in check. This time is especially egregious since Mike just wrote a piece regarding fact checking. You reference 800,000 as the maximum GLOBAL subscriber market, and then link to a prior article you've written on Techdirt. Let me quote that article for you: “According to his analysis of available capacity and anticipated usage, Moffett estimates that Starlink’s US TAM, at a full deployment of about 12,000 low-earth orbit (LEO) satellites (about 1,400 are in orbit today), is in the range of just 300,000 to 800,000 households, or less than 1% of the US market, Moffett notes.” It's 800,000 IN THE US! Not globally. The next sentence in that article, again, which you wrote, adds this: "On the maximum end, Moffett’s study guesstimates that Starlink could ultimately serve as many as 6 million US subscribers once the company upgrades the low orbit satellites and boosts overall satellite total to 42,000." So...I hope this helps. Musk never set out to solve the US Broadband issue, even if many of his fans may have cast Starlink in that vein. Starlink is a method to generate cash flow to support Musk's Mars ambitions. Nothing more. In fact, if Musk can use Starlink to fund getting a million people on Mars, I'd guess he'd shut the whole network down the next day.
Elon!
If anything does go wrong, I'm sure Karl Bode will find a way to blame Elon Musk. ;-)
Upgrayed!!
Moved up from Watercooler to BTC. Keep up the good work!
Karl, there are other countries
Karl, your points about Starlink are 100% true for the U.S. ISP marketplace. I beg you to acknowledge the global impact this company can have. Ultimately 6 million customers in the U.S., likely a similar number in Europe, India and China. Now we're up to 24 million global customers. It will be very interesting to see if Starlink will use that base to try innovative deployment strategies in Africa. Yes, Starlink will be a footnote in the U.S. broadband landscape, but it can still deliver a global impact if it can survive the growing pains that plague every company that attempts to build an operate a satellite constellation. Rebutting your narrowly focused reporting on this topic is starting to feel like a part-time job. Maybe you can join MY Watercooler club.
Re:
Karl's coverage consistently neglects the global impact Starlink will have. What he writes here is spot on for the U.S. market, but Starlink will have a huge impact from a global perspective.
It's not just the U.S.
Nice write-up that captures the expected U.S. market position for Starlink. However, for the second Starlink article on Techdirt in a row there is no mention of the international impact this company could have. The under-served rural market is global and much larger outside the US. While it won't disrupt established U.S. ISPs, the impact it may have globally could be momentous.
Elon is counting on Starlink to generate an enormous cash flow in order to fund his Mars ambitions.
RSS
As a regular reader via my RSS client, I assume time spent reading in that channel will not be recognized by Coil. Or is Coil smarter than me?
C'mon Karl, your basing this article on Vice reporting?!
And not even accurately:
"...485,000 simultaneous data streams at speeds of 100 Mbps..."
"485K data streams" <> "485K subscribers" as you wrote.
That bandwidth will support millions of subscribers.
Further, the article is focused on the U.S. market. Starlink will serve customers all over the globe.
Your core point is valid. Starlink will not disrupt ISP business in urban U.S. markets. But neither Vice, nor you, fully expressed the scope of Starlink's potential market.
Uneasy Ting Customer
Absolutely have loved being a Ting customer for the last five years. My family has low data needs and we pay just $71/mo for all four of our phones (about $18/phone). Best deal I've seen coupled with unmatched customer service. I fear this may be peak Ting. We shall see.
Arrogant Bastards
Ha! I see what you did there. Well played sir.
Re: Re:
Only if Rob Riggle adopts the mannerisms of his character from Step Brothers. POW!
The Open is still Open
You write this article as if the "British" Open (The Open) is no longer such. In fact amateurs still get into the tournament and is open to nearly any good golfer. One route:
Male amateur golfer whose playing handicap does not exceed 0.4 (i.e. scratch).
So start practicing now! Similar rules exist for all Open tournaments around the world, and usually give awards to the best finishing amateur.
CFAA Charges Incoming?
This is the kind of occurrence I would have kept to myself, not blasted it out on Twitter.
4Chan Moderation
What does 4Chan moderate? Perhaps Parler could follow their example.
Record Post?
Does this 8300 word entry set the bar for longest Techdirt post?