Senator McCain Says Snowden Is Working For Putin Based On 'Timing' Of News Reports Snowden Has Nothing To Do With

from the our-elected-officials dept

It appears that Senator John McCain is the latest to insist that Ed Snowden is working for the Russians. And while Mike Rogers has been pushing that line for quite some time (despite no evidence to support it, and the fact that the DOJ, the FBI and even Senator Dianne Feinstein have said there is no evidence of it being true), McCain has an even more ridiculous reason for claiming it's true: the "timing" of the news reports based on the documents Snowden gave to reporters:
McCain said he believed Snowden was working with Russia, “because of the timing of his releases of this information. If you look at the timing it’s when certain issues have been before us.”
There's just one huge glaring problem with that. Snowden has absolutely nothing to do with the timing. Snowden gave a large pile of documents to Glenn Greenwald, Laura Poitras and Barton Gellman. Some of those documents have been shared with certain publications, including reporters at The Guardian, the NY Times and Der Spiegel. But as everyone who's been reporting on these issues has noted, Snowden has had zero input in what was being reported on and when. The "timing" has always been up to the various publications. So, based on McCain's claims, he is actually suggesting that the NY Times and The Guardian, among others, are actually "working for Russia" and taking orders from Putin on when to publish certain news. I would think that even among the wacky conspiracy theorists out there, such a contention is plainly idiotic.

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    That One Guy (profile), Mar 27th, 2014 @ 2:14pm

    No counter-motivation

    The blatant lies such as this will continue until reporters/publications start consistently calling them on their bogus claims, until then, expect the accusations to continue to grow and get all the crazier.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 27th, 2014 @ 2:18pm

    This isn't surprising

    Everyone knows McCain is senile, and has been for a long time. It was obvious during the 2008 campaign that dementia was making substantial progress and that his mind -- never all that sharp to begin with -- was deteriorating badly.

    However, since this is America, where we have no problem electing senile people (and re-electing them), he will no doubt continue to prattle on like the worthless douchebag that he is until he finally kicks off.

    (And this is why I favor mandatory intelligence, domain knowledge, and mental agility testing for all public servants. There's plenty of stupid in this country already, we don't need it running the country.)

     

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    Lazere, Mar 27th, 2014 @ 2:22pm

    Now there's a man who should've been president!

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 27th, 2014 @ 2:26pm

    This Anti-Snowden propaganda is just getting silly now.

    This just in: Snowden has been seen with Putin spit-roasting a toddler and eating babies. We have no evidence to this accusation, but trust us.

     

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    Rikuo (profile), Mar 27th, 2014 @ 2:27pm

    Re: This isn't surprising

    Only one problem with what you favour. The ones who are running the country and who would no doubt fail such a test would also demand to be the ones who set up and plan the tests in the first place.

     

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    That One Guy (profile), Mar 27th, 2014 @ 2:31pm

    Re: This Anti-Snowden propaganda is just getting silly now.

    Spitroasting over a forest fire filled with endangered species at that, because obviously global warming is also his fault.

     

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    overthrow-r1b, Mar 27th, 2014 @ 2:42pm

    THE U.S. TRAPPED HIM THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE!

    THEY INVALIDATED HIS PASSPORT AND TRAPPED HIM IN RUSSIA!
    If anything it's a setup and attack on Russia.
    Trap him there then say it's suspicious he's there it's their fault!

     

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    Baldaur Regis (profile), Mar 27th, 2014 @ 2:46pm

    Re: This Anti-Snowden propaganda is just getting silly now.

    The timing of this is right...for lunch. So it MUST be true.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 27th, 2014 @ 2:49pm

    Re: Re: This isn't surprising

    And being senile would promptly forget what they were going to do, until someone else brought the idea up again, whereon their sense of self importance would cause the cycle to be repeated.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 27th, 2014 @ 2:50pm

    More attempts at character assassination. All of them can be plainly seen for what they are.

    Sen. McCain already has enough problems at home, with his GOP issuing a Resolution of Rebuke of United States Senator John McCain for his voting record and positions.

    http://www.bizpacreview.com/2013/09/12/arizona-gop-group-tells-mccain-knock-it-off-act-lik e-a-republican-83223

    Now I would not have a huge problem with McCain going against the average part of the GOP for the betterment of the country, that's not exactly what is happening. McCain has already shown serious problems with judgement just in selecting Palin as his running mate during his presidential bid.

    Like much of the rest of congress it just keeps going down hill.

     

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    Tom (profile), Mar 27th, 2014 @ 2:52pm

    Hey senator?

    You don't have to be working for the Russians just because you're working against America. Working against America has recently become a fun and ethical hobby for pretty much the whole planet. This is because you're the bad guys.

     

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    Beech, Mar 27th, 2014 @ 2:59pm

    The Course is Clear

    Well, let's assume for the moment that Snowden is working with Russia and doing all this damage to US interests. I guess we should do whatever it takes to stop the damage right? Maybe grant him full immunity for all past crimes, a reinstated passport, and a free trip home. Then just have the NSA make sure he doesn't give Putin any phonecalls.

    So whats more important? Pigheadedly demanding the prosecution of Snowden, or stopping all the alleged damage he's doing by working with Russia?

     

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    Ricky, Mar 27th, 2014 @ 3:01pm

    Re: THE U.S. TRAPPED HIM THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE!

    Like a FBI sting operation trying to catch terrorists of their own making?

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 27th, 2014 @ 3:10pm

    This is obvious pol-speak. If anyone does, says or writes something you disagree with, the response should always be vilify the messenger in the worst possible way you can imagine, but never ever refute the allegation or address the issue you disagree with.

     

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    PRMan, Mar 27th, 2014 @ 4:02pm

    Re: Re: This Anti-Snowden propaganda is just getting silly now.

    In Crimea, no less.

     

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    NANCY, Mar 27th, 2014 @ 4:18pm

    Hello from Israel.

    Hello from Israel.
    I always enjoy reading the articles on your site.
    Thanks a lot.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 27th, 2014 @ 4:25pm

    McCain is getting old and senile. He bought Ginkgo supplements to help improve his memory but he keeps forgetting to take them. You'll have to excuse him.

     

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    David, Mar 27th, 2014 @ 4:46pm

    The strategy is working.

    Everybody is focusing on whether or not Edward Snowden is a traitor and/or a criminal and should be brought to justice accordingly.

    As long as that is the topic of the day, nobody is focusing on whether Clapper and Alexander are traitors and criminals and should be brought to justice accordingly, and how the crimes against the constitution, congress and the American people can be brought to a stop and punished.

    Snowden has made his move and is off the board. Time to focus on the pieces still in the game. It's not like there is a shortage of treason.

     

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    JMT (profile), Mar 27th, 2014 @ 4:47pm

    Re: Hey senator?

    Snowden is not working against America, he's working for the American people and in fact most of the world's population.

     

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    john senchak, Mar 27th, 2014 @ 8:06pm

    Senator McCain is a political clown

     

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    Ed Meyer, Mar 27th, 2014 @ 8:22pm

    Re: Re: Hey senator?

    I agree. EJM

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 28th, 2014 @ 2:31am

    Re: Re: This isn't surprising

    Good point. But one possible way around that is to demand that those people also meet the standard(s), whatever those happen to be. This still leaves open cronyism, insider favors, corruption, etc., but if I'm going to be lied to, cheated, ripped off and generally screwed over by government, I'd like it to at least be done by smart government rather than a stupid one. (Today's example of a stupid one: bloated pusbag Chris Christie, an ugly corrupt pimple on the face of humanity.)

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 28th, 2014 @ 5:12am

    Re: Hello from Israel.

    Thank you for your comment. You added so much to this story about John McCain.

    Like the link to your website in your name.

     

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    Pragmatic, Mar 28th, 2014 @ 5:34am

    Re: Re: Re: This isn't surprising

    Christie is committed to "a free market society." That says it all - there's no such thing as a free market. When they talk about supply-side economics, they mean "Supplier first."

    Now imagine living in a country where corporations control the news, run prisons and medical services for profit, and constantly lobby for increased security and military contracts, and issue merit badges for excellence in corporate propaganda.

     

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    Pragmatic, Mar 28th, 2014 @ 5:36am

    Re: Re: Re: This Anti-Snowden propaganda is just getting silly now.

    I wouldn't say they were aliens... but they're aliens. /tinfoil hattery

     

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    Pragmatic, Mar 28th, 2014 @ 5:38am

    Re:

    Is that where the Valerie Plame-outing McCain gets his news from?

     

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    Pragmatic, Mar 28th, 2014 @ 5:40am

    Re:

    Now, now, AC, I have it on good authority that Sarah Palin is a strong Conservative woman.

    *Looks up Conserva-nary*

    Ah, they mean, "ideologically pure."

     

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    Jerrymiah, Mar 28th, 2014 @ 8:31am

    McCain, Rogers, King and Snowden

    It seems like John McCain is now aligning himself with the likes of Mike Rogers (The NSA super Bullie) and Peter King. It's about time for him to retire. May be his brain has been so affected during his stay at the Hanoi Hilton that he is forgetting what the US constitutionh is supposed to be about.

     

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    limbodog (profile), Mar 28th, 2014 @ 9:53am

    Here's Senator John McCain's contact info:

    http://www.mccain.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/contact-form

    Why not complain directly to him?

     

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    NOWAY, Mar 28th, 2014 @ 10:13am

    Proof Ed Snowden is a traiter and working for PUTE In

    Obviously the fact my washing machine has stopped working is directly caused by the documents that the traitor Ed Snowden released to the media, you would have to be an idiot not to realise that

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 28th, 2014 @ 11:21am

    Eckhard! Eckhard! Die Russen sind daaaa!

     

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    John Fenderson (profile), Mar 28th, 2014 @ 11:39am

    Let's never forget

    McCain is the guy who is in favor of the US torturing people because he got tortured by the Japanese and that makes it OK, or something.

     

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    GEMont (profile), Mar 28th, 2014 @ 1:17pm

    Rewriting History 101

    As I've said before, NSA and its cheerleaders will never stop calling Snowden a traitor and never admit to their own crimes.

    It is these comments by the NSA and its paid and unpaid cheerleaders that historians will record for posterity and that will create - from whole cloth - the history that will become the truth for future generations.

    This process; because of its blatant and obvious dishonesty, appears silly and childish at first glance, but it is a tried and true method of rewriting history to protect the guilty and vilify the heroes of the public, creating "examples" to prevent similar future exposes of government and corporate crime, from ever occurring.

     

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    c.f.frost, Mar 28th, 2014 @ 4:48pm

    Re: Let's never forget

    McCain is the guy who is in favor of the US torturing people because he got tortured by the [North Vietnamese] and that makes it OK, or something.

    When McCain was tortured, either he gave up the goods and sold out his military comrades thus he knows torture "works" or, he kept his mouth shut, knows torture is a worse-than-useless war crime, and he's just a bloodthirsty, warmongering sick fuck.

     

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    That One Guy (profile), Mar 29th, 2014 @ 1:38pm

    Re: Re: Re: Re: This isn't surprising

    Yeah, you don't have to 'imagine' that situation, given that's pretty much how things are currently.

     

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