And if you saw the types of comments plaguing the Star's comment section, you'd understand too.
The Star had the misfortune of receiving the former commenters from the Toronto Sun, when the Sun shuttered its own comments section. The Star is a liberal paper; the Sun is pretty intensely conservative - and as it turns out, conservatives are subhuman, vulgar, racist idiots where-ever you may look.
"More than two years after Mr. Snowden's leaks, not one NSA employee, affiliate or senior leader has been indicted, tried or convicted with a crime related to violating the FISA."
So fucking what? Not one CIA employee has seen prosecution over the black site program, and people were TORTURED TO DEATH there. If our government wants to get away with an atrocity, it does, because who's going to stop it?
Oh my god, what a brilliant clusterfuck - and I'm proud to have been there right from the beginning, as the first hints of this story started popping up on Reddit even before it was published.
Oh, I don't know; once you're living in a country with the planet's biggest prison system, and a ring of clandestine torture prisons dotted around the world, and a tendency to launch wars that kill millions entirely over lies, and police that summarily execute a thousand of your fellow citizens each year, you can safely call it Nazi Germany and not be mistaken.
“What you’re doing, essentially, is you’re playing national security Russian roulette,” one senior administration official said of allowing the powers to lapse.
Since Russian roulette is played by pointing a partially loaded gun at one's own head, how about we simply not do that? Because the way I see it, the NSA is the bullet.
I suspect this Hillhouse ploy is a discredit scheme perpetrated by our own government. After all, nothing scares an establishment journo more than being accused of plagiarism.
If anyone here posts on Reddit you might have noticed how intensely this story was attacked seemingly from on high, at least until other media outlets began working to confirm it.
Considering the only CIA guy thrown in prison over the torture scandal was the guy who blew the whistle on it, while the actual torturers of human beings to death got promotions and fat bonuses... yeah, no.
This was a really needed pick-me-up and injection of hope for humanity just when things looked their bleakest. Long live the fighters.
Personally, I won't sleep soundly until I see the NSA's data centers bulldozed on the evening news. There's no reason to believe they won't simply continue collecting everything even when it's deemed illegal.
"Jeb." "Jebediah." Now there's a name that instantly suggests technological proficiency. Good ol' Jebediah, can't tell the difference between a modem and router, but if you need help raising a barn, he's your man...
They're smart. They're playing the long game. They know that if their teeth are pulled and their powers limited, they'll just sit back looking smug until some sufficiently spectacular act of terror happens and gets the populace clamoring for Patriot Act 2: Surveillance and Torture Boogaloo.
Of course, if their teeth aren't pulled, and they retain their powers, and another impressive terrorist attack takes place, they'll ask for more powers on top of those. There's no winning with people like these, they'll always seek power.
Remember "There is no detainee abuse at Abu Ghraib"?
How about we not take the first official denial as gospel truth, considering the government's shocking frequency of lying... if the Guardian is wrong, I'm sure they'll retract that article. Aaaaany time now.
The biggest story I've seen so far in this tranche of documents, is that the Israeli Mossad doesn't believe that Iran is pursuing a bomb at all, despite Netanyahu's insistence that we're milliseconds away from being nuked by Iran.
This might torpedo that warmonger's political future, and give someone a bit more peace-minded a chance at office. Once again, a leak of secret materials stands to improve the world.
Living in surveillance states deletes expectation of privacy.
I completely understand the decision.
And if you saw the types of comments plaguing the Star's comment section, you'd understand too.
The Star had the misfortune of receiving the former commenters from the Toronto Sun, when the Sun shuttered its own comments section. The Star is a liberal paper; the Sun is pretty intensely conservative - and as it turns out, conservatives are subhuman, vulgar, racist idiots where-ever you may look.
This quote...
"More than two years after Mr. Snowden's leaks, not one NSA employee, affiliate or senior leader has been indicted, tried or convicted with a crime related to violating the FISA."
So fucking what? Not one CIA employee has seen prosecution over the black site program, and people were TORTURED TO DEATH there. If our government wants to get away with an atrocity, it does, because who's going to stop it?
The APA says video games cause violence? I guess their shrinks were playing violent games before they helped the CIA torture its detainees...
My god...
This guy's a bigger cerebral cabbage than even Dubya.
This is what the US should have done with anyone, and I mean anyone who called Edward Snowden a traitor.
No matter how hard we push back, they have the luxury of trying and trying again until they get their way. And they always do, in the end...
What's the 4th amendment for again?
Oh my god, what a brilliant clusterfuck - and I'm proud to have been there right from the beginning, as the first hints of this story started popping up on Reddit even before it was published.
They'll keep trying until they get their way.
Re: Re: Legal truth
Oh, I don't know; once you're living in a country with the planet's biggest prison system, and a ring of clandestine torture prisons dotted around the world, and a tendency to launch wars that kill millions entirely over lies, and police that summarily execute a thousand of your fellow citizens each year, you can safely call it Nazi Germany and not be mistaken.
Russian roulette, eh?
“What you’re doing, essentially, is you’re playing national security Russian roulette,” one senior administration official said of allowing the powers to lapse.
Since Russian roulette is played by pointing a partially loaded gun at one's own head, how about we simply not do that? Because the way I see it, the NSA is the bullet.
I suspect this Hillhouse ploy is a discredit scheme perpetrated by our own government. After all, nothing scares an establishment journo more than being accused of plagiarism.
If anyone here posts on Reddit you might have noticed how intensely this story was attacked seemingly from on high, at least until other media outlets began working to confirm it.
Fox guards the henhouse
Considering the only CIA guy thrown in prison over the torture scandal was the guy who blew the whistle on it, while the actual torturers of human beings to death got promotions and fat bonuses... yeah, no.
Encouraging news, but the fight is by no means over
This was a really needed pick-me-up and injection of hope for humanity just when things looked their bleakest. Long live the fighters.
Personally, I won't sleep soundly until I see the NSA's data centers bulldozed on the evening news. There's no reason to believe they won't simply continue collecting everything even when it's deemed illegal.
"Jeb." "Jebediah." Now there's a name that instantly suggests technological proficiency. Good ol' Jebediah, can't tell the difference between a modem and router, but if you need help raising a barn, he's your man...
They're smart. They're playing the long game. They know that if their teeth are pulled and their powers limited, they'll just sit back looking smug until some sufficiently spectacular act of terror happens and gets the populace clamoring for Patriot Act 2: Surveillance and Torture Boogaloo.
Of course, if their teeth aren't pulled, and they retain their powers, and another impressive terrorist attack takes place, they'll ask for more powers on top of those. There's no winning with people like these, they'll always seek power.
Re: Sometime the Guardian is wrong
Remember "America does not torture"?
Remember "We have no black site in Poland"?
Remember "There is no detainee abuse at Abu Ghraib"?
How about we not take the first official denial as gospel truth, considering the government's shocking frequency of lying... if the Guardian is wrong, I'm sure they'll retract that article. Aaaaany time now.
Re:
... and now Gemalto is backtracking on their earlier "everything is fine, our SIMs are secure" stance.
http://www.gemalto.com/press/Pages/Update-on-the-SIM-card-encryption-keys-matter.aspx
The biggest story I've seen so far in this tranche of documents, is that the Israeli Mossad doesn't believe that Iran is pursuing a bomb at all, despite Netanyahu's insistence that we're milliseconds away from being nuked by Iran.
This might torpedo that warmonger's political future, and give someone a bit more peace-minded a chance at office. Once again, a leak of secret materials stands to improve the world.