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The Neighbors Are Watching Via Surveillance Video
from the big-brother-is-next-door dept
With all the stories about governments or corporations becoming "Big Brother", it turns out that Big Brother might just be next door. In the latest kidnapping case in California, police say that one of the best initial leads they got came from the surveillance camera of the next door neighbor. Clearly, it's a good thing that such a camera helped lead to information that let the police track down the kidnapper. However, it certainly does raise some privacy issues. Yes, it's nice to have a world where people are unlikely to commit a crime since they're always being watched, but do we really want a world where no one has any real privacy?
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-dave
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This is just typical Mike blather
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(a) I'm not against security cameras. I've written about this topic a number of times before, where I've suggested that there's nothing wrong with them. In this case, I was just bringing it up as a discussion point. What rights do you have if your neighbor's security camera is watching over your private property?
(b) I do not apologize for music "thieves" at all. I (and I've pointed this out plenty of times) am just pointing out the changes in the music marketplace that those in the industry might want to think about. I'm no fan of people who share music (I don't do it). I just think, as a business, the music industry needs to learn how to deal with it.
Is it that hard to see the distinction?
(c) If you don't like my logic, there's a very simple solution: don't come to this site.
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No Subject Given
lemme see, where can we find out how people behave when they are in an anonymous consequence free environment? The net!
See the proliferation of trolls, spammers, and just plain morons that bring the signal to noise ratio to such desperate levels that discourse is becoming the exception rather than the norm on USENET, IRC, and many many message boards...
While I want my privacy, I can't help but feel that if we WERE under the camera things would be a lot safer...I'm still not sure I want to give up my privacy for this mind you and I'm not arguing for that...I'm just pointing out what people end up becoming when they KNOW they can get away with it....
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Re: This is just typical Mike blather
Citizens, beware!
I'm concerned about this "Anonymous Coward" poster. Everyone knows that anonymity is the first refuge of those with something to hide. How can we steer him towards the "straight and narrow" if we don't know who he is, or what he's doing right now? Citizens, beware!
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I'm posting as an AC, but I guarentee you that if I were to say anything illegal in this post, like maybe something the Secret Service or FBI would be interested in, I would get in a lot of trouble.
The net is under total surveillance all of the time. Just because you don't know who I am doesn't mean that I can't be found.
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stalking neighbors
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My neighbors are spying on us with wireless rermot
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desperate....and getting a restraining order on these people in the meantime for other things.
HELP
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I'm fed up - are you?
This has got to stop and citizens must make it happen. Security is one thing but when it is mounted on a post or in a tree and pointed over the fence, only an idiot would support the contention that it's ok. Whene the boiling point is reached - people get hurt! If you have a good law that covers this in your area - send me info at stiritup05@lycos.com.
Speaking of idiots, don't even go "there" with the argument about "if you aren't doing anything wrong, what does it matter" When I go to the bathroom I'm not doing anything wrong but I don't want people watching. People have an expectation of privacy when their entire yard is enclosed by privacy fence.
If you are fed up with it, too, send your opinion to the above email. I am going to prepare something for our city council. Technology seems to have outstripped the law.
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Neighbor stalking
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My neighbors are spying on us
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Ron Cosentino
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Re: This is just typical Mike blather
My house was vandalized to $30,000, even the contractors who came to repair turned around and destroyed my home with water damage yet still expecting me to pay until eventually I had to simply walk away from my home.
I worked at home and my computer system was hacked. Your own computer with DSL access allows for voice and video surveillance.
The FBI and local police simply wrote me off as crazy even when I had semen and went to the hospital for a rape kit performed. I was offered a week in their psych ward instead of a rape kit performed.
The web is full of tells of neighborhood stalkings. I was one of those who did not believe it either until it happened to me.
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Stalked, raped and turned away by the FBI and loca
This all began in 2001 when I contacted the FBI regarding see ADA (the man who supposedly blew up the Trade Center Towers). This man was in Tomball, Texas in 2001 and the FBI did nothing. In 2003, the KKK had a recruitment meeting in this small suburban town and nothing was done about it (which included police officers in sheets I later saw riding around the neighborhood).
Since 2003, all those things annotated in my first message was done, and no one cared. What I learned from this experience is "THAT is what you get for getting involved.... even when asked to."
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Malicious act of systematic harassment and intimid
The camera was initially aimed so it was viewing part of our house where our bedroom windows are located. I am not sure if this motion sensitive camera also picks up sound. I have observed James Fisher re-aiming it several times. It was re-aimed by him to video tape my wife, son and myself as we pull in the driveway, enjoy our front yard, exit or enter our front or back door. It stayed in this setting until 08/01/05 where it’s now re-aimed by James Fisher at the street. The camera was aimed at us for almost a year. Its existence causes us extreme emotional distress. With a flick of his wrist the camera can be re-aimed directly at us again.
He has a second closed circuit video camera in his front kitchen window aimed at our property. Our lawyer instructed us to film these cameras and take pictures. The camera in his kitchen is now aimed at the sidewalk in front of his house. It is aimed so it is able to record and video tape anyone’s wife, children or little kids or other family members in the neighborhood who happen to be walking down a public sidewalk. This is of course without their knowledge or consent.
Additional Closed Circuit Video equipment discovered on the back of his property
9/7/05- current In the Fishers sliding glass doors out the lower level, there is a third closed circuit camera aimed towards the back of our properties. Which is where our outside Hot Tub is and used by my wife and son with the expectation of privacy. (How many more cameras is he using that are still watching us?). I have seen him on numerous occasions aiming, checking and re-aiming the cameras. Who knows what he does with these tapes of minors and young ladies in the privacy of his basement. They could also be posted onto the internet putting my family in extreme jeopardy from sexual internet predators.
Please help, the police, laywers and local goverment officials along with the comunities civic association seem to think there is nothing wrong wtih this. But as I tell them if it was happening to them they would think differently. Pleas help. I need immediate assistance and guidance.
Thank You,
Steve Nunes
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Nosey neighbors
they hate kids, they won't have any but it is becaue her husband is gay and they just live together to pay their bills. and to think they are 30 !!!
But i think i have a right, they could be using these tapes on the internet invading my privacy!!!!
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I'am in a similar circumstance, there is a group of people stalking and harrassing me, they claim that they have something that can hear what I"m thinking, that they can see me where ever i go. They say things like *quite evesdropping* and my 4 year old son says evesdropping all the time, my mom has even heard them in my house. They have the neighbors harrassing me all the damn time and they are making up horrible lies about me like I"m a child abuser, which trust me I'am not, I pride myself in taking care of my children. I don't know what to do either, I"m 6mths pregant and so far they have been stalking and harrassing me for an entire year, and they know I'm pregnant. I almost lost my baby a few months ago because of these people.
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Neighbors videotaping
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Video security cameras were installed to monitor my porch and my backyard after I was called to 1)Witness against the abusive father/mother in a case of extreme animal neglect.(An injured dog was left outside IN the heat for four days with the flesh ripped off one rear leg..It eventually crawled onto my porch on its own..These people have LOT's of money btw!) I was forced to get involved and due to threats of physical violence, continued harrassment, and the cops doing nothing, I found the cameras did the trick. Finally, DSS took notice, because as you know, those who would abuse/neglect innocent animals do the same to people. My cameras audio capabilities, although the lenses are pointed at my yard, have enough sensitivity to "record" any outbursts by this father OR mother and DSS encouraged me to record INCIDENTS (notice not all the time). In addition to this, some other neighbors, concerned for this familie's children as well as their own, FINALLY found the courage to start reporting to DSS and the cops. Again, these were NOT "Get your A** in the house Yungin'" stuff but violent outburts toward children and pet by a former football player. IN fact, one pair of Highway Patrolmen, one of who's grandparents live nearby, told me they'd WELCOME a "call".
The cameras being "ready" to record, have been, in my belief, the catalyst for change. The outbursts, atleast outside have stopped. The boy's coach got involved, and being a big man himself, read "DAD" the riot act I'm told.
All of this being taken into consideration, the 50 bucks I spent for a simple "wired" video system to WATCH for intrusion against me, my property,and my pets has worked!
NOW, unfortunately, the weirdo druggie neighbors are harrassing/stalking me because, well, that's what they apparently do to people who they just decide they don't like. It's gotten pretty serious of late, with me not having lights thrown on me when I walk my dogs in my own backyard at night, to being tailgated by his large truck on the public roads. I've filed a "stay away" (from property) order with the local Sherrif's dept. I have incident reports of having been cussed out in my own front yard for simply raising the hood of my car at 9am in the morning to adjust the idle (It's a diesel Mercedes, not that noisy) YET I've never called on these people when they party all night. (That's changing). I have called on the husband jumping in an out behind bushs with a pellet gun at 3:30am while he shot at passing animals. (He's also shot into a neighbor's yard at their cat, the shot richocheting(sp) and hitting their young daughter. The redneck duffuss father of that child just wanted to fight. "Don't believe in callin' no law" It wouldn't have been that with MY kid I'm telling you!
Reports of the guy having a gun (he's a fellon) and shooting between houses at dogs with a 22 rifle fleeing his yard (killing one ole lady's lifelong pet who accidentally got out..The dog killed wasn't in his yard at the time) The neighbors say they call the cops, but nothing is ever done. I found that the deputies to indeed be negligently lax BUT that didn't and won't stop me...When the husband started to follow me around, right on my bumper, I filed incident reports. County didn't take them seriously, but a small town nearby did. I called SC Law Enforecement and the ATF. BOTH have taken it seriously. I now have enough evidence via calls and written incident reports to atleast file a request for a restraining order. AND yes, I'm adding some more cheapo cameras to the other side of my house. Not pointed at this guy, but the city street in front of my house, and in strategic locations around MY yard, in case I need proof if one of my dogs is hurt or killed (OR these duffuses think it's all a joke and trespass for the helluva' it).
Oh yea, a call to the local authorities saying if this guy starts shooting at anything between the houses real or imaginary, will be returned in "Self Defense" FINALLYn has the cops doing THEIR job of getting these public menances out of everyone's lives and OFF our streets.
Video evidence is all one needs. Sorry about the long stories folks BUT there is a right and a WRONG way to do surveillance. In the case of the cameras pointed at YOU, "illegal surveillance" is the key word in other words, Video Peeping Tom.
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Re: I'm fed up - are you?
Like you, I am fed up too. My neighbors (if you can call them that) have surveillance cameras mounted on every side of their house, and those are the ones that we can see! They are double income, no kids in a planned community full of young families on 1/4 - 1/3 acre lots. While I have no solid proof, I also suspect that they have video AND audio capability. I agree that security is one thing, but when their cameras cross boundary lines I feel that it is another matter. We've had a long standing feud going with these people over our two dogs (long story, but suffice to say that I tried every means necessary (short of civil suit) to stop them from harassing us and our dogs. Thankfully, that harassment has stopped as best we can tell. Now there's still the issue of the video cameras monitoring our every move while we are just living our lives and going about our daily routines. Like the other postings I've read, the cameras are aimed across the street, affecting three neighbors; they are mounted on either side of their house affecting our house and the neighbor on the other side. We all have young children and it is very upsetting that this is even happening at all. I guess you could say that they are equal opportunity voyeurs. Well, almost. They have two obvious cameras mounted and facing toward our property. In addition, they have two very small, wireless cameras facing our house. That's four cameras just on us. These cameras potentially cover our front side yard, our back yard, and our deck. I'm fairly certain that I witnessed myself and my daughter and her friend (age 9) in my own driveway as early as yesterday evening. I had been home for less than 30 minutes. How did I witness this? You see, they have the monitoring TV located in an upstairs bedroom where they freely leave the blinds open. Although the visual was from a short distance, there were other telling tale signs that this is what happened. Again, like other positings, this sounds completely paranoid and crazy, but not so. I am definitely interested in finding out if there are any laws covering this type of surveillance. At a minimum, I would think that this not only is an invasion of privacy, but an infringement of our Fourth Amendment rights. I am on board with any movement or consortium to prevent this kind of harassment, invasion of privacy, and emotional torment.
P.S. While I like and get along with all the other neighbors who are also affected by this, they remain apathetic to the whole situation.
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neighbor continues harassment aft 7 years with las
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"illegal surveillance"
Or on the motion activated cameras, put a motorized device in its field of vision to keep triggering the sensor?
I starting searching about rights and privacy because I constantly find food objects in my pool (funny I know) and I've had enough. I want to have video recording to catch these people but not at the expense of invasion of others personal privacy. What a dilemma.
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Cause Stalking by David Lawson
See David Lawsons book Cause Stalking
You will become aware, of how serious this really is.
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i feel like i have no privacy
he is a weird man
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The same thing has been happing to be.
It is getting me very upset.
Anita Obertubbesing
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People Next Door
But this guy and his family and acomplices has ransacked thehouse then took pictures,robbed us blind.We don't have nothing.He took cans of change of peeies I saved.But I'm putting this on here because I'm an Epileptic and do take medication.I haven't been able to eat for a couple weeks because of it.I have the flu.And if something happens to me I want it to be out there so he does not get away with it.The Cops will not do anything.
Anita Obertubbesing
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It don't seem To Stop!
o a Police Offer Killed 2 Families and kept doing the same thing.And the Police shrugged it off as crazy stuff.This guy may be trying to rape my daughter.He is olderI want him to stay away from us.
Anita Obertubbesing
I'm afraid of this Man harming me or my Daughter.
Anita Obertubbesing
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Stalking Neighbor
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Big Brother IS next door, in Mapleton, ND
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noisy neighbors/privacy law
they put up secturty cameras that also show my back yard and front yard. I feel my privacy has been invaded.
I am think about sueing them for evaiding my privacy.
please give me your in put. always,sunni
the guy with the camers is
hector Laborde
786-222-8959
786-597-8993 thoses are his phone number.........
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noisy neighbors/privacy law
they put up secturty cameras that also show my back yard and front yard. I feel my privacy has been invaded.
I am think about sueing them for evaiding my privacy.
please give me your in put. always,sunni
the guy with the camers is
hector Laborde
786-222-8959
786-597-8993 thoses are his phone number.........
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noisy neighbors/privacy law
they put up secturty cameras that also show my back yard and front yard. I feel my privacy has been invaded.
I am think about sueing them for evaiding my privacy.
please give me your in put. always,sunni
the guy with the camers is
hector Laborde
786-222-8959
786-597-8993 thoses are his phone number.........
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Small Potatoes
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My next door neighbor is always watching us.
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My next door neighbor is always watching us.
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Landlord&Tenant's Surveillance
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Crazy neighbors
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Private Investigators as neighbours
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Dittos
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neighbors invading privacy
In some states, stalking is illegal, but you have to have a lot of evidence to prove it. You have to document everything. Take pictures. Install your own cameras. Invite people over, a lot of people. Show them what is going on so you have witnesses. The police will not do anything unless you have proof, and even then
its hard to get them to do much unless there have been threats or someone gets hurt. It is sad, but that’s how it works here. You are better off hiring an attorney or talking to the prosecutor in your county. They can tell you what the laws are, and give you information on how to protect yourself. Don’t lose your temper around anyone. They will try to make it look like you’re crazy and paranoid. That’s what happened to me at first.
When you report invasion of privacy issues you have to be careful about how you word things. Most people will think your crazy, but if you tell them what you have seen, and have a picture and/or witness to back you up it helps. Document what is happening for a while. There are devises you can buy online and at radio shack that can block surveillance. There are devises that detect wireless and wired bugs, phone taps, etc. There are also things called jammers that disable wireless spy equipment.
Have fun with them. My lawyer at one point told me to buy poster board, draw hands with middle fingers sticking up, and hang them in the windows. One of my friends told me to scratch my butt and smell my hands constantly. Do crazy things that will get them talking about things are have no legal right to see. Get them to tell on themselves.
Hiring a private investigator is an option too.
I am still fighting this mess, but I finally have enough people listening to me and helping me, so hopefully this spying/stalking mess will be over soon.
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To all you people with horror stories...
Try *embracing* the technology you would so readily villify. If there is harassing behavior going on, the best way to stop it would be to document it on camera. Sh*t or get off the pot.
I myself have video/still motion detection cameras facing forward and back on the car I drive every day. It's comical to post peoples reactions as they pass the back of my truck; it's even funnier to see the comments people post when these photos are posted online.
Is it illegal? Not when the images are captured from a public location. Deal with it, folks... next time you're walking through a parking lot there may be more than the businesses cameras looking at you.
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Stalking neighbors
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Nosy Neighbors and Urban Stalking
These sites go on and on and on and feature very little hope to the reader. It is like going to a horror movie that is truly disturbing, and then you are living in it. WHich makes all of this info ( and disinfo) sort of a Brainwash in itself.
I have since discovered a few things that have both Put me at peace with all of it...and also effected me adversely equally so. But it is much better to understand somewhat what is going on, than it is sufferring like before, wondering who? Why? What? THe Hell is doing this. The WHY is the most disturbing question. The darkest part is usually the Answer!
My advice to all... Treat the problem as if ..well, perhaps it is a sort of Disease that is part of you. YOu live with it, ...deal with it, and try to take better care of yourself. Worrying will only bribg about sufferring and probable death. Definitely psychological issues will flow from the well of worry.
Just realize...It is NOT YOU...who is being followed around by "neighbors"...or "aliens"... well...not specifically, in 99% of the cases. It is everyone. And if you become all-too-aware of this phenomenon, then it will BECOME YOU, who is targeted specifically. It is equal opportunity viewing and it is performed by..well...people who have been arounf for quite a long time. And they run this planet the way it must be run.
WIth the info you get on the net and all the hype, they can actually manipulate this state of concern into a situation of anarchy and hysteria...which they would capitalize on fully, and many lives would be lost, yet they would still be in control, the truth never being told to the public.
Best thing to do is...Relax. Take a deep breath... Live your lives as if nothing is wrong. When they send their signal to let you know their presence, just know it is a simple person making noise..they do not know what they are doing. It isn;t them that decided to make that sound. When you have fear, your frequency changes, and you become like a videogame or tv monitor, and this energy actually creates the very things that are freaking you out. And it will always keep going. I finally STOPPED GIVING A SHIT.
THis went on for years. THen one day something happened and I wound up falling down some stairs and broke a rib ( some guy was standing near a staircase , tapping his foot, with a cell phone pointing at me, I tripped when I saw him.. At that point, I realized, IT's OVER. Since then, the answers have come in different forms. SOmetimes I stil hear and see things that would seem to indicate those Synchronous Happenings from, before. But I simply DO NOT pay it a second though. And am blessed with a WAY nicer life these days that what I sufferred for several years in distress.
Ignore.......And Conquer! No...forget conquer..it is not the right mindset. Be at Peace With...MAKE PEACE with "your tormentors"...and they will not have your fear to drive them on. It is not Money they need for their operation...It is Strong EMOTION..PERIOD! Fear and Sexual Impulse being at the top their list of suppliers of energy.
Food for thought. Sincerely, Jim Myers.
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Nosy neighbor surveillance
I mentioned there was a man standing at the top of a staircase and that I fell when I saw him.
What had happened was..I live in a nice condo complex... and I had gone out to the jacuzzi..it was late at night and the pool area was closed. It is a great time to enjoy a nice, peaceful sit in the sauna without others coming along while you are there. Anyway, afterward ,, I got out and was walking back to our unit. I heard what sounded like idiots clowning around and mumbling something "There he goes,toward the stairs". And a follow-up comment. I wanted to see who might have said this, or what they might do if I go somewhere else other than straight home. Keep in mind, that is what the whole thing with this harrassment
issue seemed to be...A GAME, perpetrated by others...pretty much everywhere I went. As if I ws not ALLOWED to have privacy or time to be alone. And their tactics were basically designed to "Let him KNOW you are there" , as they had particular movements and sounds that would easily be identified as Signals. Blatant...Obvious... Yet others close to me could see a Purpouse or design about it, and thought I was possibly "losing it". They could not understand where my concerns were coming from. i am a skilled musician...Bass Player ( standup and electric). ANd I am VERY sensitive when it comes to the TIMING of things. It was the Synchronous Activity that first got my attention, and it got worse as time wore on.
When I was at the Staircase leading to the Parking Lot under the complex, I went in and sat on the steps. I started to read a magazinwe that I was looking at while in the spa. Then I heard the footsteps. SO I awaited to see if someone would enter the staircase, knowing that someone was bound to walk in...a guarantee, since I was literally NOT ALLOWED to have a moment where they were not "watching me". I know, it sounds pretty paranoid. I am NOT a paranoid person by nature. Yet I did become quite paranoid, perhaps, regarding these " Games" that were going on. WHen I say games, it really was a battle of wills. I swear, if I was to drive out to the middle of the desert in the cold of night, and park...and just sit, thinking I was all alone..FINALLY ALL ALONE. I guarantee you, a car would have appeared on the horizon, cruising fast at first..Then it would slow down. Then, at about 50 yards or so from it , it would stop. People would get out...and it would be as though their car had a flat tire, or overheated...etc. For whatever reason, they would stop there. And simply proceed to make their Stupid noises..like the sound of breaking glass... the "hucking" sound people make to clear their throats, which , for some reason, I find more offensive than burps and farts)... Their conversations are always disjointed, and they are NEVER talking about themselves. Always a third party. Seriously, if you TRY to listen comprehensively, to their conversations, you will NOT be able to understand it. And that is for a reason. Of course, when trying to explain this to anyone, they will first think of WHAT IS WRONG here? in reference to the mental state of the attacked.
SO don;t bother telling people about it. I told my wife for awhile...she wasn;t really understanding. Then she started to believe me. THen she noticed very odd occurrences wherever she went. Then...well, we BOTH had to undergo this for several years.
The guy at the staircase...oh, yeah...let us not forget him ...which I am inclined to do as he means very little to me nowadays... I heard footsteps. But after over a minute, they continued, but noone was to be seen. I said TO HELL WITH IT, and got up pto return to the condo...That is when...and they were not expecting this..I turned around abruptly, and there he was. Some cornhole was standing just outside the slightly ajar door, TAPPING THEIR FOOT on the ground, while staring in with a cell phone pointing at me. I slipped and went crashing down the stairs. After about 10 seconds, the guy walked right by me..I could NOT MOVE, I was in shock. And he simply mumbled something like, " Whoa, that's quite a fall" or some aloof statement like that....with his phone still pointing at me as he WALKED OVER me!
As I said...If this is occurring in your life, it probably seems like A GAME. They do not touch you...they do not DIRECTLY hurt you...but they DO by way of torment and confusion. They seem to be police-like operatives, which they are not.
Seriously, the best thing to do is learn to get by WITHOUT
WORRYING...without stopping to LISTEN or OBSERVE the synchronous happenings around you. Just tell yourself..They are the sounds of Nature. No Matter how hard it is. you must do this. I found it to be QUITE EASY, actually. THat is when some strange coincidences led me to various answers that I could not obtain when under attack.
They were NOT answers I really wanted to hear...but what they were DID, in fact, bring me a sense of peace, knowing it was nothing personal and that NO ONE was personally out to get ME, per se. They are there. They are doing their thing. And it is NOT the government. Or , at least, NOT the GOvernment, as I , or we, understand it to be. And they are UNBALANCED in their sense of justice. It is not justice they seek at all. It is chaos, which is the only force that drives them. It is all they know, because they were abandoned that way. The only proper b alance to achieve in Justice would be to USE their tactics in a way that you MAKE YOUR OWN LIFE ***BETTER*** from it. Give up certain vices, train your thoughts to structured, good, positive thoughts about the future...do not dwell on the past or the feelings of guilt and unaccomplished visions will be their channel of operandi. If you do dwell on the past, then begin building on those unaccomplished goals, and bring them to fruition. In doing so, these ...hmmm, I will use some religious symbology here, since it really is HELL when you're under attack. In doing what I just said, you can turn these unbalanced "demons", if you will...
and they become as Angels, because they HELPED you to realize a better life for yourself. You tip the scales in your favor, and the unbalanced extremes of...(Justice?)..well, ..they will simply move on to the next unwary person who is sensitive to their presence.
I hope this helps. There is no way to describe it , really. I am being a little bit vague, yet very imformative at the same time. I want to focus on the positive, not the negative. I have seen shit that would really cause a stir in humanity, if everyone was to uncover it at the same time. Chaos would ensue. So I urge that folks do not go looking in the darker corners of the Earth for answers to this trend of paranoia that is in vogue these days. THis has been going on for a LONG time. It is nothing new. It is just that, with the electronic age, man's vision can stretch further into the dark than ever before. The Elders did not have electronic gadgetry, thus they were able to look into the LIGHT, as opposed to the Dark..which is supplied by Material Wizardry and plastic, short-lived Technological breakthroughs OF THE MOMENT. Thus, they have very little, if NO Soul, at all.
I hope this helps SOMEBODY out there. SIncerely, JIM.
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Very few honest people have a problem with security cameras.
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I have neighbors who have pulled an all time low. We thought we could trust the ass we allowed to watch our home when we went out of town. Came home and found every drawer in the house gone through and this ass was running to leave and The neighbors came into our home thinking they could without any breaking of the law because they paid him to let them in!! They are THAT nosey. This invasion of our privacy has gone on for 15 yrs now and they lie on my husband's federal background investigation hoping he will get fired, they have taunted him and if I come down with a terminal illness I'm sure all can guess where I'm heading, but ooo no I won't kill anyone I'd just stick them in wheelchairs for the rest of their lives!
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There is no sign in Vanessa's speech that points to insanity, and the response comment from Jess is full of condescension and ignorance. Aimed to hurt, but why would you Jess want to hurt someone you don't know, someone who is so obviously full of anxiety and needs help. How evil. perhaps you are one these people I am talking about.
There is a big motivator for common people with a criminal or immoral psychology to do this to regular people. MONEY. Just like your average family has their porn and pay a dutiful 30 or whatever a month with their cable subscription that includes porn,(I don't have cable) so these voyeurs will pay money to spy on the neighbors. There are circuits of these people who take a young woman, or older woman, and spy on them and do whatever. Once a person is in the circuit, hundreds of them participate and get off on affecting the life of the target,they vandalize their cars so as to keep them broke, they follow them around in their town and make motions to let them know they can see them and hear them thus trying to produce a paranoid state, provoke them everywhere they go and if nothing they actually enter your living area where they set up tiny cameras which require batteries, they call your employer they create gossip, because they get off in watching the girl suffer, this are the sadist voyeurs., and so on in their many varieties, because if you listen to your neighbors telephone calls you ARE a VOYEUR,(sick) They make people participate because once you click on their website or link you are accessory to an illegal activity. So Jess sorry to bust your ignorant blissful bubble, and truly wish this does not happen to you. Unless you like porn it is very hard for common people without technical hacking skills to investigate, you get losts in reels and reels of genitalia and sickness trying to find where it is. Anyone under the influence of this horrible people need professional help.
So this horrible story of Vanessa needs to be investigated, but the police will do nothing it is true. She needs a base of $10,000. dollars to hire an internet technology detective. Vanessa story is not the only one. Victims are all with the same background, isolated without a support system of friends and family.
They target recluses, volatile characters (people who get angry easily) such as the "customer service" angry people on youtube, or the exposed wives screaming at their bad husbands. they set them up, provoke them and they film them and put them on you tube and people go gawk and click and there is a five cents times however many times, can be thousands and thousands of dollars.
They target immigrant girls who come to the country and have no support system.
WAKE UP people, America is sick. those of you from another time think this only happens to celebrities. I feel terrible for Vanessa and I wish I could help but only money helps.
The web sites are hidden within websites. Some are off shores where they can collect money and never be found. It is the PORNO INDUSTRY and of course the millions of voyeurs in the USA
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the neighbor hood watch lady that lives one street up is watching my house
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peep n toms / gay man is liking me,i have no life!
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She knows that I have video camera in my window. Several druggies have moved out as well. In Ohio you can video surveill your neighbor, your car, and your property as long as you do not use it to commit a crime.
Of course the camera will pick up other activity. Cockroaches will not come out in the light.
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s our privacy stand? Where does e demarcation
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hv sufficient grounds to claim that ur privacy is being crudely violated.
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No privacy from a man next door
He mentioned his high sex drive to me out of the blue without anyone's personal sex drive being discussed (very odd and totally creepy).
He was even filming children without their consent or their parent's consent and I had to stop him.
No one has any privacy and it is horrible to know you are always on candid camera 24/7. Just wretched!
And, it is not that you are even doing anything wrong. It is just the thought of possibly being a part of someone's possible freakish perversion without your consent and being violated even if you are not. It is the most horrible way to live.
We are probably going to be moving as there is no comfort whatsoever here. Also, he was messing with cables or wires attached to my house twice without my consent on ladders. I walked outside one day and he was on a ladder right outside my back door messing with my light that was out. I did not ask him to and he never even asked me. He was just creepily there.
When I told him to stay away and that it was creepy that he discussed his high sex drive with me when we first met, he told me that "I" have a filthy mind and "I" am a filthy woman because I do not want him to discuss his sex drive and do not want him around me. He said I twisted his words.
Four people including my son and my landlord have told him to stay away from me and where I live and guess what? He did it again just the other day. Harsher punishment for these types of violations need to be in place. I have been violated numerous times and he will not stop.
It is not just me though. He has a history of doing this and he is doing this to everyone. He has like some sort of creepy thoughts on sex, wants to watch people 24/7 and has some sort of authority issues. Creepy!
People are so quick to outlaw guns even when responsible people own them. Well, where is the banning law for cameras and people who do this? It creates great stress in the victim's life and in the lives of the family that want it to stop. It is a misdemeanor and to catch him doing it, you have to become him. Really frustrated over this. It is just totally psycho.
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Unwanted Odd Attention from Others:
How does someone who does not live with you or know you, somehow know your schedule in order to make noises to get your attention when your out of their sight distance? Or out in public, how is it that it seems like strangers acknowledge you with a noise upon your arrival at an establishment or they take notice after the fact? Why would anyone act odd repeatedly to get your attention at all? Nobody cares about anyone else in this world to this extent. People are usually in their own worlds doing their own things and most of the time oblivious or unaware.
But there are no video cameras, no electrical equipment of any kind that is visible anywhere on our rental property or near-by.I look average and act average, nothing about me is exceptionally different in order to maybe attract this kind of attention from others. But it still happens. It drives me crazy and makes me want to avoid going out in public ever because of everything i just explained - its just weird. I hate it and it interferes with the quality of my life and i don't know what to do.
Is there a new trend nowadays that requires making a noise such as the sound of a whistle or cough, other than the sound of saying hello, as another way of saying hello to someone? A cough is kinda rude and a whistle is extremely open ended. But this may be saying too much or not enough. If you want to become friends with someone you treat them respectfully and in such ways that you would want to be treated yourself. And then maybe a friendship is cultivated, and those things take time. then maybe there would be an opportunity to be closer to that person depending upon how things transpire over time. Aren't quality friendships worth the time and effort?
Some of my problem may be purely psychological,as any rational person might suspect after reading this, because there has to be a reason for things that happen. That is a lot of suspicion and little factual proof. If you make something out of something that it simply is not (like a mystery or conflict for example) then it becomes a personal effort, a.k.a. a potential psychological problem, obsession, paranoia,etc...
But if what i think is actually happening for a fact, like someone meddling into my life to complicate things for me, then why would someone go through the trouble of doing that to someone else who strives to be a good person, and who does not go around stirring up trouble? People are too potentially messed up in this world to be doing such things to others its just asking for trouble. The consequences for mistakes due to confusion are way worse in most cases also, so why not just try to do things right?
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Good luck. Going through something similar but after I threatened to sue for invasion of privacy; they moved the cameras and they do NOT have any pointed into our backyard.
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Wireless cameras
Digital audio video recording system with Wi-Fi P2P technology
This device “Wi-Fi P2P” for the audio/video recording thanks to its minimum size can be hidden almost anywhere, even in objects and electronic devices. The DVR is able to realize audio and video files of high quality, thanks to the hight resolution component video and to the powerful microphone preamp. Not only that, with the “Wi-Fi P2P” you can monitor in real time what that is shooting the camera and listen the audio directly on your smartphones in wi-fi mode thanks to the supplied software.
At the same time the DVR Wi-Fi P2P is able to autonomously record audio and video directly onto a MicroSD card that you are going to enter in the slot.
The device is powered by a rechargeable lithium-polymer battery of small size, but with great features in terms of duration.. In addition, through a micro power supply plugged directly into the battery pack, you can recharge the system without having to move the voice recorder. The DVR saves the recordings on a MiscoSD (32GB max) removable (sold separately), making the file recovery fast and versatile.
The dimensions of the body of the circuit are about 5,5x1,8 cm and less than 5mm thick. The flat cable is extended of 8,5 cm and has a HD color micro camera at the end of size 0.5 x 0.5 cm.
http://www.endoacustica.com/wireless_cameras_en.htm
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I have the same situation and this is starting to affect my mental health. I feel the police is doing nothing and I just feel trapped. What do you advise?
Kind Regards,
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The only alternative is to ignore the whole thing and live normally, maybe more earnestly, improve our lifes, have goals another words live positively. Maybe one day we save enough to move to another vicinity. Don't let others affect or run down our lifes though easy to say, hard to attain. But I believe this is the only way out. Don't give up.
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I feel I "have" to put up the "cameras" in my area, please read and listen to "WHY"...
peace out.. and STAY THE F*** on your own damn property or your going to get SHOT! go ahead.. MAKE MY DAY! hahaaaa
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You are experiencing gangstalking phenomena
What many of you are describing is gang stalking phenomena.
gangstalking is often carried about by religious fanatics. I explain could in detail why, but then you would think I was a crazy person & you wouldnt believe me.
Anyway, understand its alot worse than many of you who have posted are aware of.
My advice to you all is never let them program you as a robot, think for yourselves with FREEDOM & LIBERTY in your hearts. Let logic & reasoning be your guides as you follow your hearts to the bliss of your happiness. Be an automaton, self programming. Live, learn, and relish every moment of life.
Be advised, it is probable amongst the gang stalking tactics you experience deployed against might be YOU being labeled crazy. This is done to isolate the targeted individuals. So people wont believe them when they report acts of violence. You might be kidnapped to a psychiatric unit and tortured among other things.
Always be friendly. Remember they want you to be afraid of them and think there is a boogey man beneath every rock. They want you to play their games. Its how they get their kicks. DONT DO IT.
BE FRIENDLY WITH A BIG SMILE, AND THOUGH YOU MAY FEEL LIKE BREAKING DOWN, DONT GIVE THEM THE SATISFACTION.
I have personally been experiencing alot of the things you all are describing in your comments for a very long time.
You will find that they have probably recruited those living nearby you with lies to assist them in their acts against humanity.
Do not submit to the likes of such.
JUST BE YOURSELVES & LIVE FREELY IN HAPPINESS.
I advise you to pay attention when you hear helicopters. You may notice routine physical pain, to energy radiation being directed into your home.
You may notice all of your communications are tapped.
You may notice random acts of vandalism of your properties.
Be aware gangstalking phenomena is taking place all over the world.
BEWARE OF BEING POISONED. BE CAREFUL. BE CAUTIOUS. THINK, THINK, THINK, AND THEN THINK SOME MORE BEFORE YOU ACT AS YOUR THOUGHTS MAY NOT BE YOUR OWN.BE AWARE.
Remember, JUST BE YOURSELVES AND DONT LET THEM RUN YOUR LIVES BECAUSE I CAN ASSURE YOU ALL ANYONE WHO ENGAGES IN SUCH BEHAVIOR IS CERTAINLY NOT QUALIFIED.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlHSD6uo7Mk
THE TWILIGHT ZONE("The Monsters Are on Maple Street")
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Regarding the use of energy.
You can use insulating materials, which you can purchase online to block them.
You can construct a safe room in your home. equipt it, insulate its walls & windows...and construct a FARADAY CAGE within. To block energy signals.
You can purchase cameras & have them set to live stream to a secure third party server encrypted. Just in case they break in & cutt your heads off and dispose of the recording system evidence.
You can use plant medicines to bolster up your health.
like for example: san pedro cactus, coca leaves, cannabis, psilocybin mushrooms, ayahuasca, and so forth...
You do not have to participate in being a victim.
gang stalking by definition is a form of terrorism.
I will tell you the truth, you are probably not going to find much assistance form law enforcement as they are probably working with the perpetrators of this crime in colusion.
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Your Neighbors may be the Government
(or, The government may be spying on you)
The apartment above or below yours is a great place from which to spy on you. Forward looking infrared (FLIR) cameras, augmented with motion detector switches, can be used to track every movement you make in your apartment. Here are some indicators to listen and watch for.
Suspicious quiet (or, the dog didn’t bark): You know someone’s up there but the neighbors never take a bath, shower, flush the toilet, or use the washing machine, clothes dryer, dish washer or garbage disposal.
Suspicious noises: You just got up from your living room recliner and moved to the kitchen and someone upstairs did the same thing. What a coincidence! Do you ever hear the sound of cables being dragged across the floor when this happens? At other times do you hear the thumps or clicks of motion detector switches upstairs when you move from one room to another?
Work Schedules: Do people upstairs arrive or depart in seemingly regular shift change intervals? A twenty-four hour surveillance stakeout might be divided into eight-hour shifts, for example a day shift from 5 AM to 1 PM, an afternoon and evening shift from 1 PM to 9 PM, and a graveyard shift from 9 PM to 5 AM.
External Coordination: Do people in the parking lot - in close proximity to the apartment of your “neighbors” and yours - spend excessive amounts of time checking their IPhone messages? Are they checking “monitoring lists“ (Google it!)?
Late night meetings/parties outside the building: Do small groups of people gather at one end of the building late at night, perhaps between midnight and 4 AM,? Do these events occur at regular intervals, say at weekends near the end of the month? Does a police vehicle occasionally deliver or pickup some of the attendees? Are there empty bottles, beverage cans and/or bottle caps there in the morning? Information must be passed down! Morale must be maintained!
Parking space assignments: Do certain vehicles (not white vans) get preferential parking near the apartment of your “neighbors“ (and yours) in the parking lot? Look for military base registration decals - no longer required but possibly still there - on these vehicles.
Is the surveillance stakeout common knowledge to a few of your neighbors?: Do members of the apartment association board (or their family members) or others know about the stakeout? Perhaps it’s time to start attending the board meetings!
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However, what I have been going through for the last 5 yrs. has been pure hell!
My home was a foreclosure. Either the people who were here before me installed surveillance devices, or after they moved out the person living on the adjacent lot installed the surveillance system.
I have no privacy. The low-life neighbor has the ability to transmit into my home also. And he does not live close to me. He is located in back of my 10 acres.
He can see me on the outside as well. To many times my movements have been coordinated with his movements. This has not been by accident. He watches and tries to frustrate me to the point I will move.
3 times I have been in my own home, while he was on his driveway which is about 80 yards away. And I have said aloud for him to blink his lights if he could hear me and he did.
Imagine living like this. I spent $1200 for private investigators to scan my home for hidden surveillance devices. They were very thorough but found nothing.
I have gone to the sheriff. I have contacted the Justice Dept.: nothing. I have gone from one entity to another, including the county prosecutor, with no success. No one has any suggestions. No one will point me in the right direction.
I have been told by some of these people to move. Or 'what do you care if this person sees you in your home and hears everything you say'. Both statements are utterly absurd.
This is my dream home. Why should I move? I am not the one who has broken any laws. I am not the one who has threatened him, as he threatened me. I don't stalk him. He stalks me.
What I continue to go through has been unimaginable. Pure hell! I am glad I am single with no one living with me to go through the same thing I am going through.
I have and will continue to exhaust all avenues in my attempt to have this maggot arrested and prosecuted but I have no proof. No matter how much effort I put into to finding the source of this surveillance, I always end up with nothing.
Anyone with any information as to what the person is using and typically where to look for the transmitter would be most appreciated. Frankly, I would not be surprised if transmitter is in the inner walls of my home.
And just as everyone else: you would not believe what O have been through with this sadistic monster!
You can reach me: ab.cee.dee.2424@gmail.com
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Start videoing their every move....that wouldn't be a very long video since they would get arrested at the get go.
PS. HOW CHILDISH ARE THESE PEOPLE? IM SO EMBARRASSED FOR THEM
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Re: Privacy?
7 YEARS aGO HE TRIED TO KILL ME INA EXPLOSION AND FIRE TO GET MY MONEY.
He is my trustee so can not get a restraining order (my lawer who my husband says should be disbarred) says a restraining order would cost me 25000. that's A REAL ONE SIGNED BY AQ JUDGE ANYONE CAN GO DOWN AND FILL AMEANLESS PIECE OF PAPER. aOLL THIS IN SPITE OF THE FACT WE HAVE CAMERAS
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Re: neighbors with survillence camera on my hous
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Re: neighbors with survillence camera on my hous
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It is Mason Stalkers they are playing a game
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Re: Invasion of Privacy
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It is Mason Stalkers they are playing a game
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You are great keep spreading the word
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This is done by Masons or Freemasons
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Re: Ron Cosentino
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This is done by Masons or Freemasons
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Re: Re: Re: Re: I'm fed up - are you?
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Re: neighbors with survillence camera on my hous
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Cop for my neighbor
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Re: I'm fed up - are you?
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This is done by Masons or Freemasons
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