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The Neighbors Are Watching Via Surveillance Video
from the big-brother-is-next-door dept
With all the stories about governments or corporations becoming "Big Brother", it turns out that Big Brother might just be next door. In the latest kidnapping case in California, police say that one of the best initial leads they got came from the surveillance camera of the next door neighbor. Clearly, it's a good thing that such a camera helped lead to information that let the police track down the kidnapper. However, it certainly does raise some privacy issues. Yes, it's nice to have a world where people are unlikely to commit a crime since they're always being watched, but do we really want a world where no one has any real privacy?
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Privacy?
-dave
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This is just typical Mike blather
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Re: This is just typical Mike blather
(a) I'm not against security cameras. I've written about this topic a number of times before, where I've suggested that there's nothing wrong with them. In this case, I was just bringing it up as a discussion point. What rights do you have if your neighbor's security camera is watching over your private property?
(b) I do not apologize for music "thieves" at all. I (and I've pointed this out plenty of times) am just pointing out the changes in the music marketplace that those in the industry might want to think about. I'm no fan of people who share music (I don't do it). I just think, as a business, the music industry needs to learn how to deal with it.
Is it that hard to see the distinction?
(c) If you don't like my logic, there's a very simple solution: don't come to this site.
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No Subject Given
lemme see, where can we find out how people behave when they are in an anonymous consequence free environment? The net!
See the proliferation of trolls, spammers, and just plain morons that bring the signal to noise ratio to such desperate levels that discourse is becoming the exception rather than the norm on USENET, IRC, and many many message boards...
While I want my privacy, I can't help but feel that if we WERE under the camera things would be a lot safer...I'm still not sure I want to give up my privacy for this mind you and I'm not arguing for that...I'm just pointing out what people end up becoming when they KNOW they can get away with it....
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Re: This is just typical Mike blather
Citizens, beware!
I'm concerned about this "Anonymous Coward" poster. Everyone knows that anonymity is the first refuge of those with something to hide. How can we steer him towards the "straight and narrow" if we don't know who he is, or what he's doing right now? Citizens, beware!
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I'm posting as an AC, but I guarentee you that if I were to say anything illegal in this post, like maybe something the Secret Service or FBI would be interested in, I would get in a lot of trouble.
The net is under total surveillance all of the time. Just because you don't know who I am doesn't mean that I can't be found.
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stalking neighbors
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My neighbors are spying on us with wireless rermot
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neighbors with survillence camera on my hous
desperate....and getting a restraining order on these people in the meantime for other things.
HELP
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I'm fed up - are you?
This has got to stop and citizens must make it happen. Security is one thing but when it is mounted on a post or in a tree and pointed over the fence, only an idiot would support the contention that it's ok. Whene the boiling point is reached - people get hurt! If you have a good law that covers this in your area - send me info at [email protected]
Speaking of idiots, don't even go "there" with the argument about "if you aren't doing anything wrong, what does it matter" When I go to the bathroom I'm not doing anything wrong but I don't want people watching. People have an expectation of privacy when their entire yard is enclosed by privacy fence.
If you are fed up with it, too, send your opinion to the above email. I am going to prepare something for our city council. Technology seems to have outstripped the law.
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Neighbor stalking
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My neighbors are spying on us
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Ron Cosentino
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Re: This is just typical Mike blather
My house was vandalized to $30,000, even the contractors who came to repair turned around and destroyed my home with water damage yet still expecting me to pay until eventually I had to simply walk away from my home.
I worked at home and my computer system was hacked. Your own computer with DSL access allows for voice and video surveillance.
The FBI and local police simply wrote me off as crazy even when I had semen and went to the hospital for a rape kit performed. I was offered a week in their psych ward instead of a rape kit performed.
The web is full of tells of neighborhood stalkings. I was one of those who did not believe it either until it happened to me.
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Stalked, raped and turned away by the FBI and loca
This all began in 2001 when I contacted the FBI regarding see ADA (the man who supposedly blew up the Trade Center Towers). This man was in Tomball, Texas in 2001 and the FBI did nothing. In 2003, the KKK had a recruitment meeting in this small suburban town and nothing was done about it (which included police officers in sheets I later saw riding around the neighborhood).
Since 2003, all those things annotated in my first message was done, and no one cared. What I learned from this experience is "THAT is what you get for getting involved.... even when asked to."
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Malicious act of systematic harassment and intimid
The camera was initially aimed so it was viewing part of our house where our bedroom windows are located. I am not sure if this motion sensitive camera also picks up sound. I have observed James Fisher re-aiming it several times. It was re-aimed by him to video tape my wife, son and myself as we pull in the driveway, enjoy our front yard, exit or enter our front or back door. It stayed in this setting until 08/01/05 where it’s now re-aimed by James Fisher at the street. The camera was aimed at us for almost a year. Its existence causes us extreme emotional distress. With a flick of his wrist the camera can be re-aimed directly at us again.
He has a second closed circuit video camera in his front kitchen window aimed at our property. Our lawyer instructed us to film these cameras and take pictures. The camera in his kitchen is now aimed at the sidewalk in front of his house. It is aimed so it is able to record and video tape anyone’s wife, children or little kids or other family members in the neighborhood who happen to be walking down a public sidewalk. This is of course without their knowledge or consent.
Additional Closed Circuit Video equipment discovered on the back of his property
9/7/05- current In the Fishers sliding glass doors out the lower level, there is a third closed circuit camera aimed towards the back of our properties. Which is where our outside Hot Tub is and used by my wife and son with the expectation of privacy. (How many more cameras is he using that are still watching us?). I have seen him on numerous occasions aiming, checking and re-aiming the cameras. Who knows what he does with these tapes of minors and young ladies in the privacy of his basement. They could also be posted onto the internet putting my family in extreme jeopardy from sexual internet predators.
Please help, the police, laywers and local goverment officials along with the comunities civic association seem to think there is nothing wrong wtih this. But as I tell them if it was happening to them they would think differently. Pleas help. I need immediate assistance and guidance.
Thank You,
Steve Nunes
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Nosey neighbors
they hate kids, they won't have any but it is becaue her husband is gay and they just live together to pay their bills. and to think they are 30 !!!
But i think i have a right, they could be using these tapes on the internet invading my privacy!!!!
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I'am in a similar circumstance, there is a group of people stalking and harrassing me, they claim that they have something that can hear what I"m thinking, that they can see me where ever i go. They say things like *quite evesdropping* and my 4 year old son says evesdropping all the time, my mom has even heard them in my house. They have the neighbors harrassing me all the damn time and they are making up horrible lies about me like I"m a child abuser, which trust me I'am not, I pride myself in taking care of my children. I don't know what to do either, I"m 6mths pregant and so far they have been stalking and harrassing me for an entire year, and they know I'm pregnant. I almost lost my baby a few months ago because of these people.
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Neighbors videotaping
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Video security cameras were installed to monitor my porch and my backyard after I was called to 1)Witness against the abusive father/mother in a case of extreme animal neglect.(An injured dog was left outside IN the heat for four days with the flesh ripped off one rear leg..It eventually crawled onto my porch on its own..These people have LOT's of money btw!) I was forced to get involved and due to threats of physical violence, continued harrassment, and the cops doing nothing, I found the cameras did the trick. Finally, DSS took notice, because as you know, those who would abuse/neglect innocent animals do the same to people. My cameras audio capabilities, although the lenses are pointed at my yard, have enough sensitivity to "record" any outbursts by this father OR mother and DSS encouraged me to record INCIDENTS (notice not all the time). In addition to this, some other neighbors, concerned for this familie's children as well as their own, FINALLY found the courage to start reporting to DSS and the cops. Again, these were NOT "Get your A** in the house Yungin'" stuff but violent outburts toward children and pet by a former football player. IN fact, one pair of Highway Patrolmen, one of who's grandparents live nearby, told me they'd WELCOME a "call".
The cameras being "ready" to record, have been, in my belief, the catalyst for change. The outbursts, atleast outside have stopped. The boy's coach got involved, and being a big man himself, read "DAD" the riot act I'm told.
All of this being taken into consideration, the 50 bucks I spent for a simple "wired" video system to WATCH for intrusion against me, my property,and my pets has worked!
NOW, unfortunately, the weirdo druggie neighbors are harrassing/stalking me because, well, that's what they apparently do to people who they just decide they don't like. It's gotten pretty serious of late, with me not having lights thrown on me when I walk my dogs in my own backyard at night, to being tailgated by his large truck on the public roads. I've filed a "stay away" (from property) order with the local Sherrif's dept. I have incident reports of having been cussed out in my own front yard for simply raising the hood of my car at 9am in the morning to adjust the idle (It's a diesel Mercedes, not that noisy) YET I've never called on these people when they party all night. (That's changing). I have called on the husband jumping in an out behind bushs with a pellet gun at 3:30am while he shot at passing animals. (He's also shot into a neighbor's yard at their cat, the shot richocheting(sp) and hitting their young daughter. The redneck duffuss father of that child just wanted to fight. "Don't believe in callin' no law" It wouldn't have been that with MY kid I'm telling you!
Reports of the guy having a gun (he's a fellon) and shooting between houses at dogs with a 22 rifle fleeing his yard (killing one ole lady's lifelong pet who accidentally got out..The dog killed wasn't in his yard at the time) The neighbors say they call the cops, but nothing is ever done. I found that the deputies to indeed be negligently lax BUT that didn't and won't stop me...When the husband started to follow me around, right on my bumper, I filed incident reports. County didn't take them seriously, but a small town nearby did. I called SC Law Enforecement and the ATF. BOTH have taken it seriously. I now have enough evidence via calls and written incident reports to atleast file a request for a restraining order. AND yes, I'm adding some more cheapo cameras to the other side of my house. Not pointed at this guy, but the city street in front of my house, and in strategic locations around MY yard, in case I need proof if one of my dogs is hurt or killed (OR these duffuses think it's all a joke and trespass for the helluva' it).
Oh yea, a call to the local authorities saying if this guy starts shooting at anything between the houses real or imaginary, will be returned in "Self Defense" FINALLYn has the cops doing THEIR job of getting these public menances out of everyone's lives and OFF our streets.
Video evidence is all one needs. Sorry about the long stories folks BUT there is a right and a WRONG way to do surveillance. In the case of the cameras pointed at YOU, "illegal surveillance" is the key word in other words, Video Peeping Tom.
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Re: I'm fed up - are you?
Like you, I am fed up too. My neighbors (if you can call them that) have surveillance cameras mounted on every side of their house, and those are the ones that we can see! They are double income, no kids in a planned community full of young families on 1/4 - 1/3 acre lots. While I have no solid proof, I also suspect that they have video AND audio capability. I agree that security is one thing, but when their cameras cross boundary lines I feel that it is another matter. We've had a long standing feud going with these people over our two dogs (long story, but suffice to say that I tried every means necessary (short of civil suit) to stop them from harassing us and our dogs. Thankfully, that harassment has stopped as best we can tell. Now there's still the issue of the video cameras monitoring our every move while we are just living our lives and going about our daily routines. Like the other postings I've read, the cameras are aimed across the street, affecting three neighbors; they are mounted on either side of their house affecting our house and the neighbor on the other side. We all have young children and it is very upsetting that this is even happening at all. I guess you could say that they are equal opportunity voyeurs. Well, almost. They have two obvious cameras mounted and facing toward our property. In addition, they have two very small, wireless cameras facing our house. That's four cameras just on us. These cameras potentially cover our front side yard, our back yard, and our deck. I'm fairly certain that I witnessed myself and my daughter and her friend (age 9) in my own driveway as early as yesterday evening. I had been home for less than 30 minutes. How did I witness this? You see, they have the monitoring TV located in an upstairs bedroom where they freely leave the blinds open. Although the visual was from a short distance, there were other telling tale signs that this is what happened. Again, like other positings, this sounds completely paranoid and crazy, but not so. I am definitely interested in finding out if there are any laws covering this type of surveillance. At a minimum, I would think that this not only is an invasion of privacy, but an infringement of our Fourth Amendment rights. I am on board with any movement or consortium to prevent this kind of harassment, invasion of privacy, and emotional torment.
P.S. While I like and get along with all the other neighbors who are also affected by this, they remain apathetic to the whole situation.
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neighbor continues harassment aft 7 years with las
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"illegal surveillance"
Or on the motion activated cameras, put a motorized device in its field of vision to keep triggering the sensor?
I starting searching about rights and privacy because I constantly find food objects in my pool (funny I know) and I've had enough. I want to have video recording to catch these people but not at the expense of invasion of others personal privacy. What a dilemma.
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Cause Stalking by David Lawson
See David Lawsons book Cause Stalking
You will become aware, of how serious this really is.
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i feel like i have no privacy
he is a weird man
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The same thing has been happing to be.
It is getting me very upset.
Anita Obertubbesing
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People Next Door
But this guy and his family and acomplices has ransacked thehouse then took pictures,robbed us blind.We don't have nothing.He took cans of change of peeies I saved.But I'm putting this on here because I'm an Epileptic and do take medication.I haven't been able to eat for a couple weeks because of it.I have the flu.And if something happens to me I want it to be out there so he does not get away with it.The Cops will not do anything.
Anita Obertubbesing
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It don't seem To Stop!
o a Police Offer Killed 2 Families and kept doing the same thing.And the Police shrugged it off as crazy stuff.This guy may be trying to rape my daughter.He is olderI want him to stay away from us.
Anita Obertubbesing
I'm afraid of this Man harming me or my Daughter.
Anita Obertubbesing
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Stalking Neighbor
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Big Brother IS next door, in Mapleton, ND
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noisy neighbors/privacy law
they put up secturty cameras that also show my back yard and front yard. I feel my privacy has been invaded.
I am think about sueing them for evaiding my privacy.
please give me your in put. always,sunni
the guy with the camers is
hector Laborde
786-222-8959
786-597-8993 thoses are his phone number.........
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noisy neighbors/privacy law
they put up secturty cameras that also show my back yard and front yard. I feel my privacy has been invaded.
I am think about sueing them for evaiding my privacy.
please give me your in put. always,sunni
the guy with the camers is
hector Laborde
786-222-8959
786-597-8993 thoses are his phone number.........
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noisy neighbors/privacy law
they put up secturty cameras that also show my back yard and front yard. I feel my privacy has been invaded.
I am think about sueing them for evaiding my privacy.
please give me your in put. always,sunni
the guy with the camers is
hector Laborde
786-222-8959
786-597-8993 thoses are his phone number.........
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Small Potatoes
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My next door neighbor is always watching us.
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My next door neighbor is always watching us.
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Landlord&Tenant's Surveillance
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Crazy neighbors
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Private Investigators as neighbours
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Dittos
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neighbors invading privacy
In some states, stalking is illegal, but you have to have a lot of evidence to prove it. You have to document everything. Take pictures. Install your own cameras. Invite people over, a lot of people. Show them what is going on so you have witnesses. The police will not do anything unless you have proof, and even then
its hard to get them to do much unless there have been threats or someone gets hurt. It is sad, but that’s how it works here. You are better off hiring an attorney or talking to the prosecutor in your county. They can tell you what the laws are, and give you information on how to protect yourself. Don’t lose your temper around anyone. They will try to make it look like you’re crazy and paranoid. That’s what happened to me at first.
When you report invasion of privacy issues you have to be careful about how you word things. Most people will think your crazy, but if you tell them what you have seen, and have a picture and/or witness to back you up it helps. Document what is happening for a while. There are devises you can buy online and at radio shack that can block surveillance. There are devises that detect wireless and wired bugs, phone taps, etc. There are also things called jammers that disable wireless spy equipment.
Have fun with them. My lawyer at one point told me to buy poster board, draw hands with middle fingers sticking up, and hang them in the windows. One of my friends told me to scratch my butt and smell my hands constantly. Do crazy things that will get them talking about things are have no legal right to see. Get them to tell on themselves.
Hiring a private investigator is an option too.
I am still fighting this mess, but I finally have enough people listening to me and helping me, so hopefully this spying/stalking mess will be over soon.
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To all you people with horror stories...
Try *embracing* the technology you would so readily villify. If there is harassing behavior going on, the best way to stop it would be to document it on camera. Sh*t or get off the pot.
I myself have video/still motion detection cameras facing forward and back on the car I drive every day. It's comical to post peoples reactions as they pass the back of my truck; it's even funnier to see the comments people post when these photos are posted online.
Is it illegal? Not when the images are captured from a public location. Deal with it, folks... next time you're walking through a parking lot there may be more than the businesses cameras looking at you.
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Stalking neighbors
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Nosy Neighbors and Urban Stalking
These sites go on and on and on and feature very little hope to the reader. It is like going to a horror movie that is truly disturbing, and then you are living in it. WHich makes all of this info ( and disinfo) sort of a Brainwash in itself.
I have since discovered a few things that have both Put me at peace with all of it...and also effected me adversely equally so. But it is much better to understand somewhat what is going on, than it is sufferring like before, wondering who? Why? What? THe Hell is doing this. The WHY is the most disturbing question. The darkest part is usually the Answer!
My advice to all... Treat the problem as if ..well, perhaps it is a sort of Disease that is part of you. YOu live with it, ...deal with it, and try to take better care of yourself. Worrying will only bribg about sufferring and probable death. Definitely psychological issues will flow from the well of worry.
Just realize...It is NOT YOU...who is being followed around by "neighbors"...or "aliens"... well...not specifically, in 99% of the cases. It is everyone. And if you become all-too-aware of this phenomenon, then it will BECOME YOU, who is targeted specifically. It is equal opportunity viewing and it is performed by..well...people who have been arounf for quite a long time. And they run this planet the way it must be run.
WIth the info you get on the net and all the hype, they can actually manipulate this state of concern into a situation of anarchy and hysteria...which they would capitalize on fully, and many lives would be lost, yet they would still be in control, the truth never being told to the public.
Best thing to do is...Relax. Take a deep breath... Live your lives as if nothing is wrong. When they send their signal to let you know their presence, just know it is a simple person making noise..they do not know what they are doing. It isn;t them that decided to make that sound. When you have fear, your frequency changes, and you become like a videogame or tv monitor, and this energy actually creates the very things that are freaking you out. And it will always keep going. I finally STOPPED GIVING A SHIT.
THis went on for years. THen one day something happened and I wound up falling down some stairs and broke a rib ( some guy was standing near a staircase , tapping his foot, with a cell phone pointing at me, I tripped when I saw him.. At that point, I realized, IT's OVER. Since then, the answers have come in different forms. SOmetimes I stil hear and see things that would seem to indicate those Synchronous Happenings from, before. But I simply DO NOT pay it a second though. And am blessed with a WAY nicer life these days that what I sufferred for several years in distress.
Ignore.......And Conquer! No...forget conquer..it is not the right mindset. Be at Peace With...MAKE PEACE with "your tormentors"...and they will not have your fear to drive them on. It is not Money they need for their operation...It is Strong EMOTION..PERIOD! Fear and Sexual Impulse being at the top their list of suppliers of energy.
Food for thought. Sincerely, Jim Myers.
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Nosy neighbor surveillance
I mentioned there was a man standing at the top of a staircase and that I fell when I saw him.
What had happened was..I live in a nice condo complex... and I had gone out to the jacuzzi..it was late at night and the pool area was closed. It is a great time to enjoy a nice, peaceful sit in the sauna without others coming along while you are there. Anyway, afterward ,, I got out and was walking back to our unit. I heard what sounded like idiots clowning around and mumbling something "There he goes,toward the stairs". And a follow-up comment. I wanted to see who might have said this, or what they might do if I go somewhere else other than straight home. Keep in mind, that is what the whole thing with this harrassment
issue seemed to be...A GAME, perpetrated by others...pretty much everywhere I went. As if I ws not ALLOWED to have privacy or time to be alone. And their tactics were basically designed to "Let him KNOW you are there" , as they had particular movements and sounds that would easily be identified as Signals. Blatant...Obvious... Yet others close to me could see a Purpouse or design about it, and thought I was possibly "losing it". They could not understand where my concerns were coming from. i am a skilled musician...Bass Player ( standup and electric). ANd I am VERY sensitive when it comes to the TIMING of things. It was the Synchronous Activity that first got my attention, and it got worse as time wore on.
When I was at the Staircase leading to the Parking Lot under the complex, I went in and sat on the steps. I started to read a magazinwe that I was looking at while in the spa. Then I heard the footsteps. SO I awaited to see if someone would enter the staircase, knowing that someone was bound to walk in...a guarantee, since I was literally NOT ALLOWED to have a moment where they were not "watching me". I know, it sounds pretty paranoid. I am NOT a paranoid person by nature. Yet I did become quite paranoid, perhaps, regarding these " Games" that were going on. WHen I say games, it really was a battle of wills. I swear, if I was to drive out to the middle of the desert in the cold of night, and park...and just sit, thinking I was all alone..FINALLY ALL ALONE. I guarantee you, a car would have appeared on the horizon, cruising fast at first..Then it would slow down. Then, at about 50 yards or so from it , it would stop. People would get out...and it would be as though their car had a flat tire, or overheated...etc. For whatever reason, they would stop there. And simply proceed to make their Stupid noises..like the sound of breaking glass... the "hucking" sound people make to clear their throats, which , for some reason, I find more offensive than burps and farts)... Their conversations are always disjointed, and they are NEVER talking about themselves. Always a third party. Seriously, if you TRY to listen comprehensively, to their conversations, you will NOT be able to understand it. And that is for a reason. Of course, when trying to explain this to anyone, they will first think of WHAT IS WRONG here? in reference to the mental state of the attacked.
SO don;t bother telling people about it. I told my wife for awhile...she wasn;t really understanding. Then she started to believe me. THen she noticed very odd occurrences wherever she went. Then...well, we BOTH had to undergo this for several years.
The guy at the staircase...oh, yeah...let us not forget him ...which I am inclined to do as he means very little to me nowadays... I heard footsteps. But after over a minute, they continued, but noone was to be seen. I said TO HELL WITH IT, and got up pto return to the condo...That is when...and they were not expecting this..I turned around abruptly, and there he was. Some cornhole was standing just outside the slightly ajar door, TAPPING THEIR FOOT on the ground, while staring in with a cell phone pointing at me. I slipped and went crashing down the stairs. After about 10 seconds, the guy walked right by me..I could NOT MOVE, I was in shock. And he simply mumbled something like, " Whoa, that's quite a fall" or some aloof statement like that....with his phone still pointing at me as he WALKED OVER me!
As I said...If this is occurring in your life, it probably seems like A GAME. They do not touch you...they do not DIRECTLY hurt you...but they DO by way of torment and confusion. They seem to be police-like operatives, which they are not.
Seriously, the best thing to do is learn to get by WITHOUT
WORRYING...without stopping to LISTEN or OBSERVE the synchronous happenings around you. Just tell yourself..They are the sounds of Nature. No Matter how hard it is. you must do this. I found it to be QUITE EASY, actually. THat is when some strange coincidences led me to various answers that I could not obtain when under attack.
They were NOT answers I really wanted to hear...but what they were DID, in fact, bring me a sense of peace, knowing it was nothing personal and that NO ONE was personally out to get ME, per se. They are there. They are doing their thing. And it is NOT the government. Or , at least, NOT the GOvernment, as I , or we, understand it to be. And they are UNBALANCED in their sense of justice. It is not justice they seek at all. It is chaos, which is the only force that drives them. It is all they know, because they were abandoned that way. The only proper b alance to achieve in Justice would be to USE their tactics in a way that you MAKE YOUR OWN LIFE ***BETTER*** from it. Give up certain vices, train your thoughts to structured, good, positive thoughts about the future...do not dwell on the past or the feelings of guilt and unaccomplished visions will be their channel of operandi. If you do dwell on the past, then begin building on those unaccomplished goals, and bring them to fruition. In doing so, these ...hmmm, I will use some religious symbology here, since it really is HELL when you're under attack. In doing what I just said, you can turn these unbalanced "demons", if you will...
and they become as Angels, because they HELPED you to realize a better life for yourself. You tip the scales in your favor, and the unbalanced extremes of...(Justice?)..well, ..they will simply move on to the next unwary person who is sensitive to their presence.
I hope this helps. There is no way to describe it , really. I am being a little bit vague, yet very imformative at the same time. I want to focus on the positive, not the negative. I have seen shit that would really cause a stir in humanity, if everyone was to uncover it at the same time. Chaos would ensue. So I urge that folks do not go looking in the darker corners of the Earth for answers to this trend of paranoia that is in vogue these days. THis has been going on for a LONG time. It is nothing new. It is just that, with the electronic age, man's vision can stretch further into the dark than ever before. The Elders did not have electronic gadgetry, thus they were able to look into the LIGHT, as opposed to the Dark..which is supplied by Material Wizardry and plastic, short-lived Technological breakthroughs OF THE MOMENT. Thus, they have very little, if NO Soul, at all.
I hope this helps SOMEBODY out there. SIncerely, JIM.
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