The Government Makes It Harder For The Public To Comment On Regulatory Proceedings
from the no-thanks-for-your-feedback dept
Ideally, the U.S. public is supposed to be able to comment on government policy proceedings, and the government is supposed to listen to that input. Of course it doesn’t really work that way: for years we’ve noted how U.S. regulatory comment proceedings are full of bots and fake comments from industries trying to game regulators, and make shitty policy (giant mergers, mindless deregulation, the elimination of consumer protection) seem like it has broad public support.
And now the government is making it harder than ever for real Americans and activist groups to comment on regulatory proceedings. Matthew Gault at 404 Media notes that the General Services Administration (GSA), the government agency in charge of regulations.gov, notified API key holders in an email last week that they’d soon lose the ability to POST directly to the site’s API.
That makes it significantly harder for consumer groups and others to file collected public comments with regulatory agencies on issues of importance:
“POST is a common function that allows users to send data to an application. POST allowed third party organizations like Fight for the Future (FFTF), the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF), and Public Citizen gather comments from their supporters using their own forms and submit them to the government later.”
The GSA isn’t responding to comments explaining why it’s making it harder for the public to comment. But with the Trump administration taking an absolute hatchet to labor rights, environmental regulations, consumer protections, and whatever was left of corporate oversight, it’s not hard to figure out why this government is looking to mute larger scale public feedback.
Consumer groups like Fight For The Future tell 404 Media that while they can still submit comments through the regulations.gov website, the interface is a nightmare to deal with, forcing organizations to jump through multiple hoops just to comment on proceedings:
“The experience on our campaign sites right now is like, we make our impassioned case for why you should care about this and then give you one box to type something and click a button. But the experience going forward is going to be like: ‘Alright now here’s a link and some instructions on how to fill out your taxes,’” Ken Mickles, FFTF’s chief technology officer said.”
As noted earlier, the comment system was already mess, and routinely gamed by industry. As we saw during the net neutrality fight, when big telecom was caught using fake and dead people to flood federal government websites with fake support for the repeal of the popular rules. Their punishment was a light wrist slap by NY’s AG, who couldn’t even be bothered to cite the telecoms by name.
Previously, our semi-functional democracy at least maintained the illusion that public input mattered and was being considered. The Trump administration isn’t even bothering with the pretense. And the erosion of any public comment mechanism is the least of our problems, given the wholesale devastation the administration is imposing on regulatory independence, consumer protections, and corporate oversight.
Wealth and power needs the illusion that this is still a Democracy to mute dissent and maintain control. As the very real world (and likely extremely fatal) harms of napalming the regulatory state begin to manifest over the next few years, the public is going to have a lot to say about it. And it’s very clear this administration wants to pretend it can’t hear you.
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Comments on “The Government Makes It Harder For The Public To Comment On Regulatory Proceedings”
And it’s very clear this administration wants to pretend it can’t hear you.
The administration already wasn’t paying any attention. But they couldn’t deny that we had said something.
Now they’ll be able to pretend that nobody ever said anything. That nobody pointed out the obvious problems beforehand. If it’s not in the comment system, then it doesn’t exist.
Looks like a now classic “unplug anything until crickets are falling from the sky.”
I was going to say that I think the (only) benefit is that this will dramatically cut down on the bots and comment floods from “lobbyist groups” who want deregulation. But then I remembered that AI and LLMs exist. Which does make me wonder… Could this be circumvented via LLMs? Might this be something an LLM might actually be good for? Hmm… I mean I guess you could script it with selenium too…
The Trump admin has Truth Social, Twitter and 4chan for the type of feedback they’re interested in hearing.
Re:
You don’t need all that infrastructure, honestly. They could achieve the same quality of ideas and feedback for a much lower price point if they just go dumpster diving behind a daycare or a retirement home for the incontinent.
Remember that time President Trump tried to intimidate a journalist into pretending an obvious Photoshop was a real tattoo, in order to justify sending someone to a torture hole?
Deaf ears
There is only one opinion the Republican party is interested in hearing these days. I’m sure the next move will be to sell access, if you want to post comments. For $5 million, you can have a gold Trump phone with an app that lets you have access…
You’re allowed to go out and hold signs around for an hour, what more do you want?
Surely not anything that makes them feel uncomfortable in any way, because then you’re worse than the fascists.
why bother
at least they are now saying the quit part out load! government does not care about the peasants! refuses to to listen to anyone that isn’t lining there pockets. and of coarse big corps. is still going to put up a front that they are for the peasants! while stabbing them in the back when they aren’t looking.
what we have here now is NOT a functioning government! it’s a corporate take over!
That same corporate America that screams bloody murder to proposed regulations available for notice and comment, hasn’t said “boo” to the arbitrary and contradictory edicts coming from the regime, even those costing them money/market share/goodwill. If we ever restore a government based on laws and not tantrum, with every proposed regulation that protects, well, ANYTHING, we should rub corporate noses in their failure to stand up for the rule of law and willingness to roll over for the dictator.
The thing about Notice and Commentary is that they don’t have to actually do anything except pay lip service to genuine concerns raised anyway. Also, looking at comment-stuffing patterns, it actually have for the past 10+ years inadvertently created a situation where the mass of copypasta support amplified the genuine questions since the APA does require said lip service to be paid, and it’s hard to pay lip service to copypasta.
It’s unlikely that most of the stuffing is done by corporate America, because there’s a ton of anti-corporate but pro-state comments that ends up getting sent in for, say, the DEA (especially on matters that also involve the FDA), or DHS, or the even more in the weeds aspects ranging from the FAA to Treasury subagencies. They are far more about reinforcing what the agency wants to do already. I can’t prove that because I can’t even get a response to FOIA requests I’ve sent in and only ICE has been as mum on FOIA requests (although ICE actively trolls public interest firms so I guess they take it one step further, your tax dollars at work). The net neutrality instance (and other instances of comment-stuffing that was revealed when the government sees an advantage for doing so) are known because the gatekeepers wanted those particular cases to be noted, but it is widespread as hell and also, since there’s no requirement to use one’s real legal name – especially when interest groups can comment as a group if they so wish – not to mention that there are a bevy of people with my name in the country, the need to use actual identities from some db leak is extraneous and frankly, more indicative of the operatives not knowing how the system works more than anything else. That would hardly be surprising since the first Trump admin didn’t seem to have a single lawyer who had the president’s ear and understood the mechanisms of admin law. It’s also curious why such stuffing efforts don’t occur on a greater scale on the state level since most states have a similar system. Boyd Gaming tried to ask for a handout and continue the Nevada ban on iGaming over the pandemic and failed because 5 Nevadans, none of whom knew each other, objected in writing to the Gaming Commission. Boyd even made the ludicrous claim that Nevada didn’t have the datacenter capacity to run a geofenced in-state gaming system and with a fairly significant chunk of taxpayer change at stake a company that size would not make completely idiotic claims that can be refuted by Googling. In fact, Google literally was building and finishing their Henderson DC during the whole process and so it’s literally the top of results when searched. Boyd is publicly traded and operate close to 30 properties, they can afford lawyers who can make better arguments than five randos. And it would take a very small sockpuppet operation to create the appearance of support, and instead they were out about $200 million both from not receiving an additional state bailout and the acquisition of an iGaming company.
But of course on the federal level for the most part rulemaking is not arising out of lobbying directly but instead most of it arises out of agencies fulfilling the procedural requirements of the APA. Those commenting should do so to force the agency to engage with genuine concerns and since they don’t have to consider the persuasiveness of the comments, their answers can be surprisingly revealing. Getting the DEA to admit that their enforcement and scheduling actions are done without considering patient well being because they only care about potential for abuse (not even actual abuse, so much of scheduling is based on moral panic and an attempt to create problems to justify its raison d’etre) didn’t take an API key since under both the Obama and the first Trump admins I couldn’t even get an api key somehow. I have one now – during the Biden admin – but it’s also way easier nowadays to stuff the comments without using the API. Residential/mobile proxies are cheaper than ever, and if someone can’t figure out how to automate a browser or 100 to navigate the site, they should hire the sneaker bot kids. But this really means that if the tactic actually worked, then someone like me can pay next to nothing and stuff regulations.gov, no api required. Selenium has been around long enough that it’s incredibly simple to pose as a real browser once you do a run-through, or the likes of OctoBrowser, ixBrowser, Linken Sphere if you want to go halfsies on the automation. But since agencies are effectively shielded from direct political pressure anyway and can simply wave away legitimate concerns as they have always done. Many routinely ignore black letter reporting requirements and have effectively gone rogue (the DEA makes a profit and keeps it to augment its budget, and that profit comes from profits made when laundering cartel money, for over 20 years. They’ve stopped reporting to congress regularly in 2012 and remains the case when the IG was still able to audit), so why should they be afraid of the unwashed masses trying to ring the alarm on the recklessness of agency action? The most dangerous regulations are the ones that directly affect the liberty and property interests of the average person. Immediate harm surely outweighs potential future harm, and if you really give a damn you should already have a template ready for submission. The agencies seems to take such minute indicators of effort more seriously for some reason, although not seriously enough to change their plans most of the time.