But Their Signal Chats: Trump Officials Share War Plans With Journalist

from the how-are-any-of-them-still-employed? dept

Look, I know you’ve probably already seen yesterday’s absolutely stunning story from Jeffrey Goldberg at The Atlantic. The one where Trump administration officials somehow managed to add a journalist to their Signal group chat while planning out their bombing of the Houthi rebels in Yemen. The one that reads like a plot point rejected from VEEP for being too unrealistic.

But having spent 24 hours watching various hot takes and attempts to minimize just how catastrophically bad this security breach was, we need to talk about why this is even worse than most people realize.

First, just look at the casual way these officials discuss highly classified military operations. This isn’t just a quick “oops wrong number” text – this is an extended conversation about bombing plans happening on an unauthorized platform. And the deeper you read, the worse it gets:

At 8:05 a.m. on Friday, March 14, “Michael Waltz” texted the group: “Team, you should have a statement of conclusions with taskings per the Presidents guidance this morning in your high side inboxes.” (High side, in government parlance, refers to classified computer and communications systems.) “State and DOD, we developed suggested notification lists for regional Allies and partners. Joint Staff is sending this am a more specific sequence of events in the coming days and we will work w DOD to ensure COS, OVP and POTUS are briefed.”

At this point, a fascinating policy discussion commenced. The account labeled “JD Vance” responded at 8:16: “Team, I am out for the day doing an economic event in Michigan. But I think we are making a mistake.” (Vance was indeed in Michigan that day.) The Vance account goes on to state, “3 percent of US trade runs through the suez. 40 percent of European trade does. There is a real risk that the public doesn’t understand this or why it’s necessary. The strongest reason to do this is, as POTUS said, to send a message.”

The Vance account then goes on to make a noteworthy statement, considering that the vice president has not deviated publicly from Trump’s position on virtually any issue. “I am not sure the president is aware how inconsistent this is with his message on Europe right now. There’s a further risk that we see a moderate to severe spike in oil prices. I am willing to support the consensus of the team and keep these concerns to myself. But there is a strong argument for delaying this a month, doing the messaging work on why this matters, seeing where the economy is, etc.”

A person identified in Signal as “Joe Kent” (Trump’s nominee to run the National Counterterrorism Center is named Joe Kent) wrote at 8:22, “There is nothing time sensitive driving the time line. We’ll have the exact same options in a month.”

Then, at 8:26 a.m., a message landed in my Signal app from the user “John Ratcliffe.” The message contained information that might be interpreted as related to actual and current intelligence operations.

At 8:27, a message arrived from the “Pete Hegseth” account. “VP: I understand your concerns – and fully support you raising w/ POTUS. Important considerations, most of which are tough to know how they play out (economy, Ukraine peace, Gaza, etc). I think messaging is going to be tough no matter what – nobody knows who the Houthis are – which is why we would need to stay focused on: 1) Biden failed & 2) Iran funded.”

The Hegseth message goes on to state, “Waiting a few weeks or a month does not fundamentally change the calculus. 2 immediate risks on waiting: 1) this leaks, and we look indecisive; 2) Israel takes an action first – or Gaza cease fire falls apart – and we don’t get to start this on our own terms. We can manage both. We are prepared to execute, and if I had final go or no go vote, I believe we should. This [is] not about the Houthis. I see it as two things: 1) Restoring Freedom of Navigation, a core national interest; and 2) Reestablish deterrence, which Biden cratered. But, we can easily pause. And if we do, I will do all we can to enforce 100% OPSEC”—operations security. “I welcome other thoughts.”

100% OPSEC indeed. Remember, this is the Secretary of Defense (who we all knew was unqualified for the job) literally promising perfect operational security while inadvertently sharing war plans with a journalist over a non-governmental communications system.

And remember — this is just what Goldberg was comfortable sharing publicly. He notes that some messages were too sensitive to publish, containing operational details that “could conceivably have been used to harm American military and intelligence personnel.” Think about that for a moment: these top officials were casually texting information so sensitive that even after the fact, a journalist felt publishing it would endanger lives.

This isn’t just incompetence — though it certainly demonstrates how the rank amateurs Trump put into power are catastrophically unqualified for their jobs. This is criminal negligence with national security implications.

Under 18 USC 793, “gross negligence” in handling defense information carries up to ten years in prison. And this case goes way beyond mere negligence — they deliberately chose to conduct classified military planning on an unauthorized platform, then accidentally broadcast it to a journalist. That’s before we even get to the numerous other laws likely violated here.

While some members of Congress, including a few Republicans, are appropriately alarmed by this breach, the GOP leadership is desperately trying to minimize it. Take Rep. Don Bacon, an Armed Services Committee member and former Air Force brigadier general, who actually told Axios: “I’ve accidentally sent the wrong person a text. We all have.”

This kind of false equivalence is both dangerous and stupid. This wasn’t a misdirected happy birthday text, you dipshit. This was classified military planning conducted over a third-party messaging app. Yes, Signal’s encryption is excellent — but that’s completely beside the point. There’s a reason the government has specific secured communications systems, SCIFs, and strict protocols for handling classified information.

Even more concerning than Bacon’s clueless response is House Speaker Mike Johnson’s attempt to downplay this massive security breach: “They’re gonna track that down and make sure that doesn’t happen again…. Clearly, I think the administration has acknowledged it was a mistake and they’ll tighten up.”

This wasn’t some minor technical slip-up that just needs a policy reminder. This was top officials deliberately choosing to conduct classified military planning on unauthorized systems. The fact that they accidentally included a journalist just exposed what they were doing — but the underlying violation was using Signal in the first place.

And here’s what should really keep you up at night: we only know about this because they happened to add a journalist who went public about this single chat. How many other sensitive conversations are happening on Signal or other unauthorized platforms? How many other “accidental” additions might have gone unnoticed? How many foreign intelligence services are already exploiting this administration’s casual approach to operational security?

Let’s put this in perspective: this is the same Trump team that turned “but her emails” into a movement over Hillary Clinton’s private email server. We were critical of Clinton’s server too — it was a legitimately bad security practice. But what we’re seeing here makes Clinton’s server look like amateur hour.

Clinton used a private server for mostly unclassified State Department business, with a handful of retroactively classified emails found in the mix. These guys are literally planning military strikes over Signal, complete with operational details so sensitive that journalists won’t even publish them. And they’re doing it specifically to dodge both security protocols and federal records laws.

The private server versus Signal distinction matters too. Clinton’s setup, while improper, was at least a dedicated system. These officials are just using a consumer app, making it virtually impossible to properly archive communications as required by law. They’re not just mishandling classified info — they’re deliberately choosing tools that help them hide their tracks.

And, yes, pretty much all of the officials in the chat are on record screaming about supposed security failures during Democratic administrations. CNN put together an incredible supercut of a bunch of these dipshits screaming about security breaches from Democrats:

CNN put together a collection of clips of various Trump officials who were on the signal chat criticizing Hillary Clinton’s email server

Acyn (@acyn.bsky.social) 2025-03-25T01:14:09.623Z

Though, my favorite may be this tweet from Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard (a member of the group chat) from just ten days ago saying “any unauthorized release of classified information is a violation of the law and will be treated as such.”

Huh, maybe someone should get on responding to this lawbreaking that you were a part of then.

And then there’s Donald Trump’s telling response to this security nightmare. After first trying to dismiss the story by attacking The Atlantic (“a magazine that is going out of business”), Trump pivots to what he thinks is the only relevant point: “Well, it couldn’t have been very effective, because the attack was very effective.”

Think about that for a moment. The man who led “lock her up” chants over Clinton’s email server — who insisted the mere existence of a private server was disqualifying regardless of any actual harm — is now arguing that leaking classified military plans is fine as long as the operation still succeeded.

This is the same Trump who once claimed Clinton’s email practices were “bigger than Watergate.” The same Trump who said anyone mishandling classified information should be disqualified from public service. Now he’s shrugging off his own officials literally texting war plans to random journalists because hey, the bombing worked out okay in the end.

Some Trump defenders are trying to minimize this by claiming the published excerpts only show policy debate among senior officials. But Goldberg’s reporting makes clear just how dangerous this breach was:

At 11:44 a.m., the account labeled “Pete Hegseth” posted in Signal a “TEAM UPDATE.” I will not quote from this update, or from certain other subsequent texts. The information contained in them, if they had been read by an adversary of the United States, could conceivably have been used to harm American military and intelligence personnel, particularly in the broader Middle East, Central Command’s area of responsibility. What I will say, in order to illustrate the shocking recklessness of this Signal conversation, is that the Hegseth post contained operational details of forthcoming strikes on Yemen, including information about targets, weapons the U.S. would be deploying, and attack sequencing.

Let that sink in. These weren’t just policy discussions — these were detailed military plans so sensitive that publishing them could endanger American lives. And they were being casually shared on Signal, where any “accidental” addition could have accessed them.

Remember Benghazi? Republicans spent years investigating Obama administration officials over that attack. They held endless hearings, demanded countless documents, and threw around accusations of criminal negligence and security failures. Now imagine if they’d discovered Obama officials were planning military operations over WhatsApp and accidentally adding journalists to the chat.

In any functioning administration, this would be a career-ending scandal. Multiple officials would be fired. Security protocols would be completely overhauled. Criminal investigations would be launched. Instead, we’re watching Republicans try to wave this away as a simple mistake — just an errant text, no big deal since the bombing worked out fine.

This isn’t just covering up incompetence anymore. This is actively endangering national security by normalizing absolutely reckless handling of classified military operations. Anyone claiming otherwise is either lying or has completely abandoned any pretense of caring about operational security when their team is in charge.

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Anonymous Coward says:

It Won't Matter

It isn’t going to matter because people don’t care. And people who do hear about this when straying from partisan news and curated social media feeds will find ways to be okay with this.

It sucks, its hypocritical, and its blatently reckless. And mark my words, noone will face meaningful consequences for this.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

If this had happened during the Biden administration, Republicans not only would’ve called for heads to roll, they probably would’ve gotten a few. But because this happened under Trump, nobody is going to resign⁠—or even be investigated, for that matter. For his friends, everything; for his enemies, the law.

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terribly tired (profile) says:

Re: Oh right

Goldberg was in Austria — presumably on one of their national telecoms networks — when he got the invite. So there’s yet another possible attack vector, on yet another insecure phone. One that was already a prime target because of Goldberg’s position and employer.

If I were any non-USA western intelligence firm, I’d be real fucking careful about what I shared with the USA going forward.

NerdyCanuck (profile) says:

Re: Re:

sorry, saw your comment about austria after I already posted

but like if I was Goldberg I’d be hella worried that a bunch of no-click spyware was now heading my way, like pegasus or whatever else… I hope he changed all his passwords to new insanely long ones, threw his current phone in a lake and changed his phone number, at the very least, before publishing this story!!

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David says:

Re:

Why would they go to all that effort when they can just pat Trump’s back and he’ll roll over and spill for them? Though instead of depending on his memory of where the U.S. troups are headed, it is probably more reliable to manipulate him into sending them where you want them.

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Anonymous Coward says:

This will get much worse

Now that every US adversary knows that these clowns are using Signal: they’ll target Signal. Signal is run by some good people, but they’re no match for the national intelligence services of major nations — who would and will quite literally kill to get their hands on military secrets like these.

So one of the side effects of this is that these idiots just painted targets on everyone who works for Signal.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re:

A) While I assume signal could block an endpoint number, Signal doesn’t require users give up identifying info aside from a phone number. I’m sure new phone numbers are acquirable by the administration.

B) I suspect banning phone numbers from being registered would slowly eat away at signal’s viability as a free messaging platform as the need to both moderate and account for phone numbers being impermeant consumes more and more of signal’s resources and undermines the core feature set.

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sentient ai from the future (profile) says:

Re: well they dont have to target signal

there are any number of side-channel attacks that would maintain the perceived security of signal itself while completely compromising the communications moving through it.

and if you’re an intel or military heavy for a nation-state you need to take the threat of that seriously, because OTHER nation states have something of a thing for targeted operations like that.

let’s recall that the malware payload that ended Jeff Bezos’ marriage came from a WhatsApp message sent by Prince Bonesaw, which the shitbag in chief even benefited from in terms of leverage via the Enquirer. even the relative lightweights have access to shit like that.

we also know, or these fucking jamokes should have known, that russia has been stepping up their attacks on signal itself, as a way of compromising Ukranian military communications.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re:

All good points.

Also: if I were an intel wonk in one of those countries, I’d reason that people dumb enough to use Signal for critical military planning details are probably also dumb enough to use WhatsApp, Slack, Discord, and other junk — and I would target all of those.

NerdyCanuck (profile) says:

Re: they got some of the Jan 6 attackers due to signal

I don’t even know that they would have to target signal directly (though I agree that it’s likely they will, I’m sure they will use any/all methods to get access to these chats), but I just wanted to note that all anyone would need to do is get ahold of (or hack) the phone of just ONE of the giant dumbasses on these chats, and that would give them access to all the messages – that’s how the FBI got a bunch of the Jan 6 people after all, because even though lots of them did delete thier own messages, only a few were smart enough to actually make sure the creators of each group chat properly deleted them, because deleting your own messages doesn’t delete them for anyone else unless the chat creator does it (if I remember correctly), plus there are backups on each phone as well, and thus it only took access to a few of the phones for them to get the vast majority of the Jan 6 planning messages. There were still key gaps, but plenty enough to incriminate a bunch of the rioters anyways.

Suffice to say that the levels of how shockingly idiotic this was, and how many ways they are now exposed, is just so so wide and deep, and you can bet these dumbfucks still don’t give a damn, cuz Trump said “who cares, the bombing was a success”

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That One Guy (profile) says:

'Suckers and losers' was the phrasing I believe

It’s easy to trivialize the immeasurable risk to military security and the lives of soldiers caused by knowingly using an unofficial channel for military communications in order to dodge record keeping and accountability laws when you don’t care about either military security or the lives of soldiers.

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Koby (profile) says:

This wasn’t a misdirected happy birthday text, you dipshit. This was classified military planning conducted over a third-party messaging app. Yes, Signal’s encryption is excellent — but that’s completely beside the point. There’s a reason the government has specific secured communications systems, SCIFs, and strict protocols for handling classified information.

And the reason for those protocols is so that the deep state can listen into the conversation. It sounds like someone is upset that a secure system is being used to cut the NSA out of the picture!

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

Re:

No, people are upset for three big reasons:

  1. This incident proves that the people Trump wanted in charge of national security and the military are woefully unfit for those positions.
  2. Using Signal instead of official channels means those people wanted to keep their conversations off the record so there’s no paper trail and therefore no way to hold anyone accountable for bad decisions.
  3. Governments now know to target Signal, since it’s clear that the Trump administration won’t stop using it to communicate.

Your “Deep State” conspiracy fantasy has nothing to do with any of that, you goddamned idiot.

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Koby (profile) says:

Re: Re:

Using Signal instead of official channels means those people wanted to keep their conversations off the record so there’s no paper trail and therefore no way to hold anyone accountable for bad decisions.

At least you’re willing to admit that there’s a paper trail on the government developed system. You’re just one step away from being able to admit that the deep state can access that record so they can thwart any decisions that they don’t like.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:

At least you’re willing to admit that there’s a paper trail on the government developed system.

Are you willing to admit that such a system should even exist, or are you going to argue that Trump and his idiot henchmen shouldn’t be subjected to that system because none of them should be held responsible for anything they do?

You’re just one step away from being able to admit that the deep state can access that record so they can thwart any decisions that they don’t like.

And how the fuck are they going to do that when Trump, his co-president Elon Musk, and all their idiot henchmen are gutting the federal government by shutting down entire departments/agencies and firing people with both actual institutional knowledge and the capability of doing anything that isn’t wholly destructive?

Just say you want Trump to be a king. That’d be far more intellectually honest than your “Deep State” fantasy bullshit.

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MrWilson (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:

I love that this derp state conspiracy is just modern superstitious folklore anymore.

Don’t speak over official channels or the derp state kobolds will sabotage your war plans!

Leave out a massive reduction in force as an offering to prevent the derp fae from getting inside your administration and giving lunches to poor children.

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Mamba (profile) says:

Re:

Fucking what? Cutting the NSA out of the picture? Do you really think the NSA was cut out of the planning and wasn’t at least informed of it? If you really believe this, this is getting unhealthy and is a sign you’re experiencing extreme paranoia and disassociation. Your GP can help you find a qualified psychologist to help with medical and non medical remedies.

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MrWilson (profile) says:

Re: Re:

Your GP can help you find a qualified psychologist to help with medical and non medical remedies.

Koby doesn’t have a GP or PCP. When he heard that the ACA and Obamacare were the same thing, he decided that healthcare was a derp state conspiracy. Now he uses Trump-brand essential oils and freebases ivermectin for all his woes. Mental healthcare is especially “gey” and Trump says that’s illegal now. Koby swallows his emotions like a real man.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re:

And the reason for those protocols is so that the deep state can listen into the conversation. It sounds like someone is upset that a secure system is being used to cut the NSA out of the picture!

You’re delusional if you don’t think the NSA already has access to these unsecured phones.

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n00bdragon (profile) says:

Re:

Republican Senators expressing “concerns” after confirming half the crowd on this chat rings especially hollow to me. That something like this would happen (sooner rather than later) was plainly obvious to everyone who wasn’t drinking the MAG-Aid. Preventing this sort of thing from happening is precisely the purpose of Senate confirmations. It’s about making sure that the people chosen for enormously important responsibilities have a basic level of competence in the thing they are about to manage.

But none of that matters, because the Republican voter base will write this off as a smear campaign by the lame-stream media. Note this is exactly what Hegseth did when asked about it even after the White House had confirmed it was real. That the truth is out there straight from the horse’s mouth doesn’t matter. Hegseth’s bald-faced lie will be blasted nonstop of Fox News while the White House’s own admission of fault will be forgotten.

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bhull242 (profile) says:

Re:

And the reason for those protocols is so that the deep state can listen into the conversation.

No, it’s to ensure that messages don’t leak and that records will be available for access by the public later on through FOIA requests. There’s also no reason to believe that the deep state would have access via those protocols.

It sounds like someone is upset that a secure system is being used to cut the NSA out of the picture!

Why would you assume the NSA was kept out of the conversation? Why would you consider the NSA part of the deep state and no one else who was in the conversation?

Also, the system wasn’t secure, which is why we even know about this whole mess in the first place.

Anonymous Coward says:

Whelp, that’s what you get when you elect an incompetent bozo, who surrounds himself with even less competent bozos, because the last thing any boss wants is someone who will show him up.

Can we just impeach the whole bunch of them? Oh wait, that would require a Congress that isn’t full of incompetent bozos who are also cringing, cowardly toadies to boot.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

Re:

Totalitarianism in power invariably replaces all first-rate talents, regardless of their sympathies, with those crackpots and fools whose lack of intelligence and creativity is still the best guarantee of their loyalty.

— from The Origins of Totalitarianism by Hannah Arendt

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Anonymous Coward says:

Every member of the armed services should resign right the fuck now because they can’t be assured that the bozos running this bozo show won’t release operational details that might GET THEM KILLED.

If I were in the armed services, I sure would be looking for an exit now. Trump’s blathering about all sorts of stupid ideas like invading Panama.

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Cat_Daddy (profile) says:

What Hegseth, Vance, and the officials involved did was break the law. There’s no sugarcoating it. Doesn’t matter if it was accidental, a law is a law is a law. And a pretty indefensible one at that.

So since this is a massive issue for Trump, that means all involved (except the journalist) should be fired right? This is a fireable offense, so these men should be sacked, right?
Right?
RIGHT?

Marco DeBeerst says:

Signal source code extension snippet

Just found this Signal source code extension snippet on a public github for one of Elon Musk’s incel geniuses.

// Radiation hardened Signal extension
#include stdio.h
#include std_denials.h
#include private_server.h
#include random journalists.h
#include racists_before_it_was_cool.h
#include kremlin.h
#include pathetic_denials.h
#include nuh_uh!.h

Arijirija says:

Back in the day, a dissenting American scholar wrote the following,

https://tomdispatch.com/alfred-mccoy-trumping-the-empire/

where he pictured the US’s global dominance would end with a futile and useless attack against an external enemy. He did refine his model somewhat with

https://tomdispatch.com/the-american-empire-in-ultimate-crisis/

I am expecting some more from him, on the way the American Empire ends through self-harm, by the death of the trillion cuts by a pack of losers

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