The Guy Behind That Biden AI Deepfake Robocall Is Going To Go Through Some Things
from the good-luck dept
Last month you probably saw the story about how somebody used a (sloppy) deepfake of Joe Biden in a bid to try and trick voters into staying home during the Presidential Primary. It wasn’t particularly well done; nor was it clear it reached all that many people or had much of an actual impact.
But it clearly spooked the government. FCC robocall enforcement is generally fairly feckless for reasons we’ve well discussed (short version: having strict enforcement and rules might upset corporate American debt collectors and marketing departments that use many of the same tactics as robocall scammers).
But in this case it took all of a week or two before the FCC, in cooperation with state AGs, had tracked down the culprit: a “veteran political consultant working for a rival candidate” by the name of Steve Kramer. In comments to NBC, Kramer make it rather clear that he doesn’t really quite understand the width and breadth of the tornado dumpster fire about to fall on his head:
“In a statement and interview with NBC News, Kramer expressed no remorse for creating the deepfake, in which an imitation of the president’s voice discouraged participation in New Hampshire’s Democratic presidential primary. The call launched several law enforcement investigations and provoked outcry from election officials and watchdogs.
“I’m not afraid to testify, I know why I did everything,” he said an interview late Sunday, his first since coming forward. “If a House oversight committee wants me to testify, I’m going to demand they put it on TV because I know more than them.”
While U.S. regulators are pretty feckless about robocall enforcement (especially if you’re a large company that might prove difficult to defeat in court), they’re going to nail a small fry like this to a tree in the town square to make a point.
Kramer, a well known player in Albany politics who helped the short-lived Ye campaign, appears to believe he’ll be able to tap dance around his coming legal woes by insisting that he was some kind of avante garde revolutionary or activist:
“Kramer claimed he planned the fake robocall from the start as an act of civil disobedience to call attention to the dangers of AI in politics. He compared himself to American Revolutionary heroes Paul Revere and Thomas Paine. He said more enforcement is necessary to stop people like him from doing what he did.
“This is a way for me to make a difference, and I have,” he said in the interview. “For $500, I got about $5 million worth of action, whether that be media attention or regulatory action.”
Indeed.
How much of a kick to the crotch Kramer will experience is hard to parse out, but he’s not going to have fun. The usually fairly feckless FCC is making a precedent-shifting change for his “act of civil disobedience,” declaring AI-generated robocalls illegal under the Telephone Consumer Protection Act (TCPA), which they already use to combat robocalls.
Usually the FCC (technically the FTC) sucks at collecting robocall fines because scammers (and legit companies) spoof their numbers and identities, making them hard to track down. In this case, Kramer is openly bragging about what he did, so I’d imagine the fine will be very large and hard to avoid.
For reference, right-wing propagandists Jacob Wohl and Jack Burkman were fined $5,134,500 for 1,141 illegal robocalls the duo made in a bid to confuse and mislead state voters. I’d suspect that this fine will be bigger. Kramer will also likely face a litany of lawsuits, and whatever additional charges the federal government can drum up to make an example of him. Which he claims is what he wanted, so enjoy.
Filed Under: consumer protection, deepfake, fcc, joe biden, politics, ratfuckery, robocalls, tcpa


Comments on “The Guy Behind That Biden AI Deepfake Robocall Is Going To Go Through Some Things”
Feckless indeed...
I think somebody has a new favorite word
Re: Came here to say the same thing
How about useless, worthless, incompetent, inefficient, inept, good-for-nothing, ne’er-do-well; lazy, idle, slothful, indolent, shiftless, spiritless, apathetic, aimless, unambitious, unenterprising; no-good, no-account, lousy.
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No, it’s an old favourite.
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Actually, the word ‘feckless’ isn’t that new.
This Kramer guy has the attitude of an “invincible” teenager about to jump out of an airplane with no parachute and about three miles between him and the ground.
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Agreed, except the teenager would probably self-reflect more than Capt. LawsDontApplyToMeBecauseImASpecialCookie.
"How much of a kick to the crotch Kramer will experience is hard to parse out?"
I called him and asked. Biden said it wouldn’t be a problem.
Ouch, he could have deepfaked literally anyone else and noone would have cared.
But you start deepfaking a sitting president and the federal government is going to start writing new rules just to nail your ass to the wall with.
The Cost of Civil Dispbediance
Some people forget that Henry David Thoreau was willing to accept the cost of his protest. The people who took part in the fight for civil rights also were willing to accept the consequences of doing the right thing. Those people are heroes, and we owe them a debt of gratitude for making the world better for all of us.
Somebody who takes up a fight they feel is righteous but is not willing to accept the consequences is just an unthinking jerk.
And the $250,000 from that flailing candidate no one can even name given to him around the same time had NOTHING to do with it.
Also getting the same vibe we got from the GQP idiots who illegally voted, on purpose, to prove it could be done easily.
Re: prob with taking over elections
Do you know the problem with it.
There are 10-13 states that have a major affect in the voting.
Consider the average Vote is Barely over 150 million, Spread across the nation.
If 1 person was REALLY leading and you wanted to make sure to take it over. You would want 10% more. 10-15 million votes.
To all of a sudden have an Excess of 10 million votes from Any of those 13 states? How about 1 million? And hope a <1% increase for your Choice will help.
1 million extra votes in those states would Stand out.
Re: Re: Wrong
Take last election. The difference in votes that would have resulted in Trump winning instead of Biden was less then 120 000 votes. Or flipping less then 60 000 votes from Biden to Trump.
An effect due to most states are winner takes all. This means that you only need/want to look at the states where the margins are thinnest for the required amount of electors to switch. The rest doesn’t matter, just like it doesn’t matter how many votes are cast just the difference between the two candidates.
'It was a joke bro!'
Well damn, there goes the legal system.
Once criminals learn that all you have to do to escape consequences for breaking the law is claim that it was part of an act and/or you were doing it to show what could be a problem it will become impossible to convict a single one of them!
“I’m going to demand they put it on TV because I know more than them.”
Let me hazard a guess who is is going to vote for.
I think we found the next contestant for the F.A.F.O. olympics.
an act of civil disobedience to call attention to the dangers of AI in politics
If you wanted to highlight the dangers of AI, Mr. Kramer, why didn’t you simultaneously have AI Trump tell Republicans not to vote?
Worse for Kramer is that he was working for another Democratic candidate at the time. I’m sure the FTC and FCC won’t mind at all a nice high-profile case demonstrating that they’ll crack down on attempts to illegally influence the vote no matter which party is doing it. That’ll be a nice counter to GOP attempts to paint them as partisan.
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Political persecution by a sitting president and his regime of noble and courageous opponents and their supporters.
No surprise that this site supports it, since the sitting president is a Democrat.
Re: As opposed to…
The Criminal prosecution of venial and cowardly political opponents for their violations of the law, which would be the case in the actions taken against Trump and the people who abetted his illegal efforts.
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“Political persecution by a sitting president and his regime of noble and courageous opponents and their supporters.”
Many humans communicate via complete sentences, you should try it. I agree with your assessment that the Trump administration and its supporters persecutions were way out of order.
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Remember the candidate who ran on locking up his political opponents? Which party did he run for again? Remember the politically motivated investigation of a private citizen because people are hoping to turn up something they can use to weaponise the legal system against political opponents? Remember how the source of the entire basis of their investigation is a noted liar who is now being prosecuted for lying but they’re still ploughing ahead with sham investigations? Which party is weaponising the house judiciary comittee? I wonder. Which party has out right admitted the plan for 2025 is to weaponise the system of government itself to punish their perceived enemies and purge the land of non white, non Christian immigrants?
Civil Disobedience
People keep forgetting that “I was engaged in civil disobedience” , is not a legal defense..
It’s supposed to end up with the person committing it in jail, to showcase the immorality of a law that imprisons a good man.
That’s why it’s the “Letter from the BirminghamJail” and not the “Letter Frim Birmingham”
But..but..Biden pardoned me…listen to this recording……
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When former President Trump is returned to office, political persecution the likes of which you’ve never before seen in America will commence. ‘ll make Japanese internment camps seem tame and not racist in comparison.
The great thing about Elon buying Twitter is that he’s allowed all the degenerate LGBTQ+ freaks and their neo-Marxist supporters to self-identify, so it will be very easy to simple round them up. This in addition to, of course, removing Democrats from local school boards and outlawing teacher’s unions (while giving awards and nationwide bonuses to public safety union members).
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hello low life troll
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fuck off revenge porn freak
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get this low life comment flagged that i am replying to
Kramer seems to have caught an extremely bad case of Iditioticus Cretinous Moronicus. Sadly there is no cure available, just look at (be brave and hold your breath if you don’t have a vomit bucket handy) Taylor-Greene, Gaetz, Johnson and Boebert for example) and you can see that the disease has completely taken over their brains.
how is posting a deepfake of someone else not criminal idenity theft? this isn’t a satirical fair use. it was intended to create confusion.
Re: Trump fodder
“I’m not afraid to testify, I know why I did everything,”
Which is why you’ll end up wishing you had a few more IQ points, maybe even enough to understand why you’re an idiot.
I would imagine that identity theft of an elected official would be a federal crime, so this clown will probably be high on Trump’s pardons list, maybe even right behind the orange asshat and his family.
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Name checks out…🤡
Anyone would know that was wrong. Too many people get away with whatever they do with a wave of their hand.
Anyone who tries to change the life path of others will be judged by higher powers.