The Vice Media Collapse Was Entirely The Fault Of Incompetent, Fail-Upward Brunchlords

from the fail-upward-to-the-level-of-your-incompetence dept

As we survey the rubble that once was the U.S. journalism industry, a common refrain involves lamenting that “online journalism just isn’t profitable.” But as the recent collapse of outlets like Sports Illustrated and The Messenger illustrate, the real culprit often isn’t that journalism isn’t profitable, it’s that U.S. media is predominantly run by utterly incompetent individuals who fail upward into positions of power.

Last week’s collapse of Vice media came as no surprise given years of stories about waste and excess by a rotating crop of terrible management. Also unsurprising is that most of the postmortems (usually written by people employed in the U.S. media sector who would like to remain so and don’t want to offend ownership by being honest) involve lots of vagaries as to responsibility.

There was a lot of ambiguous finger pointing at the supposed inherent impossibility of making money in online journalism. Most breakdowns just parroted the soulless, AI-esque memo to staff by CEO Bruce Dixon without context, blaming ambiguous externalities and the supposedly unavoidable unprofitability of running a silly old website in the TikTok and Twitch era:

As we navigate the ever-evolving business landscape, we need to adapt and best align our strategies to be more competitive in the long term...We create and produce outstanding original content true to the Vice brand. However, it is no longer cost-effective for us to distribute our digital content the way we have done previously.

As usual, you have to go over to independent media outlets like Defector to find something vaguely resembling the truth: that Vice was run into the ground by a rotating crop of utterly incompetent trust fund failsons who created unrealistic, hype-fueled company valuations, hoovered up exorbitant salaries, implemented numerous incoherent strategy pivots, and set giant piles of money on fire on a rotating crop of increasingly stupid ideas:

“The band of worthless but extravagantly overcompensated executives who seized the Vice ship from its previous regime of worthless but extravagantly overcompensated executives have decided that the business’s new direction will be in content licensing and re-emphasized social media channels, and that’s that.”

You know, brunchlords.

While permalancing at Vice’s tech pub Motherboard I was paid a whopping $300 per story to write 382 articles over five years, covering everything from the death of local journalism and the empty hype surrounding 5G, to regulatory capture and the corrupt mess that is U.S. telecom policy. I stayed because I enjoyed the work, and my editors were all class acts.

Numerous Vice editors and staff writers were paid salaries as little as $35,000 a year in New York City (you’d find retirement or financing a home purchase easier with a career at fucking Quiznos). At the same time, executives, clearly incapable of any sort of coherent strategic vision, gobbled up massively outsized compensation not at all commensurate with their workloads or performance:

“The exorbitant pay of the executive team responsible for steering Vice Media into urgent financial disaster and thus into the hands of private equity: Vice chief communications officer Jonathan Bing took home $640,000 in salary and bonuses in the 12 months prior to Vice’s bankruptcy filing; chief operating officer Cory Haik took home $726,000; executive vice president Subrata De was paid $779,000; chief marketing officer Nadja Bellan-White hauled in $835,000.”

Even as the company was facing bankruptcy and freelancers and staffers were either fired without severance or (like myself and other Vice freelancers) watched huge segments of their incomes instantly evaporate, legal filings illustrated how Vice executives were handed $11 million dollars — for doing arguably little to nothing — from May 2022 to May 2023.

This, somehow, often gets distorted into the “unforeseen challenges facing modern online media ventures today” by a feckless press pretending to ascertain what went wrong without pissing off management.

When it comes to financing Vice journalism and keeping the lights on, the problem wasn’t the people doing the actual fucking work. Nor is it the costs of doing actual journalism. As noted previously, The equally incompetently managed The Messenger burned through fifty million fucking dollars in less than a year; enough to fund any competently managed modest newsroom for the better part of a decade.

But again, if you read most mainstream analysis of the Vice collapse, executive incompetence is either downplayed or simply nowhere to be found. Instead, the collapse of Vice, like most mismanaged modern U.S. media companies, is often left causation free, somehow the unfortunate, unforeseen consequence of ambiguous externalities in the thankless job of informing the public about factual reality online.

Hey, maybe it was all the fault of those dastardly wokes.

While Vice does have a well-earned reputation for quirky hipster engagement bait (Transhumanist Alien Ketamine!), the outlet also did oceans of excellent journalism. Especially at outlets like Motherboard, where Joseph Cox was a wrecking ball on the cybersecurity beat. Several of the sub-brand’s best editors and writers wisely smelled the looming carrion and left last year to create the excellent 404 Media.

Yes, making money in journalism is difficult. The journalism advertising market has cratered, and the public’s attention span is now fractured across an ocean of quick-dopamine-hit video apps and social media apps where mindless engagement bait is now god.

But as academics like Victor Pickard have long argued, U.S. journalism should have always been viewed as a nonprofit or minimally profitable public service in need of creative (potentially even public) funding by anybody even semi-competently interested in its long-term survivability.

Instead, a rotating crop of hedge fund bros, VCs, and bankers decided to treat an essential cornerstone of functional U.S. society like a disposable napkin. A hollow, purely extractive and self-serving pursuit of mindless engagement at impossible scale. That this brutal exploitation opened the door to abuse by authoritarians keen on undermining the very concept of a shared reality never entered their thick skulls.

At the same time, our federal media policies have been abysmal failures, with policymakers routinely turning a blind eye to mindless consolidation and the impact it has on media diversity. Efforts to create alternative funding for independent journalism have also been feckless and incoherent, never stepping close to the same priority reserved for the latest tech hype bubble or cryptocurrency scam.

The result is has been the birth of a hollow, privacy-violating, engagement-based infotainment apparatus at a scale never seen on Earth. A system where all the financial incentives point in twisted directions, drowning us in wave upon wave of automated gibberish and partisan propaganda that’s way more profitable — and more consistently financed — than journalism ever was.

Now, the same “leaders” that caused the collapse of Buzzfeed, Vice, and The Messenger want to use AI to create an even more mindless engagement ouroborus that shits out advertising money at impossible scale with an utter disregard for audience, information quality, journalism, foundational reality, or the broader public interest.

U.S. journalism isn’t entirely hopeless (though it sure felt like it last week as we all rushed to archive years of work before deletion by an extraction class utterly disinterested in preservation or history).

There are still community-driven outlets like Techdirt. There are still outstanding outlets like ProPublica genuinely interested in challenging American wealth, corruption, and power. Some journalists have found a path to profitability and building direct reader readerships through newsletters (albeit not without some ugly wrinkles). The Motherboard folks who left to form 404 Media say, strangely enough, that without a cavalcade of trust fund failsons leeching resources, their journalism should prove profitable.

But putting the future of journalism in the hands of individual newsletter authors and smaller outlets without the financial resources to fend off narcissist billionaires (virulently and routinely angry that you’ve told the truth) raises more than a few questions about scale and sustainability.

More broadly, there’s simply no financial incentive to fix or reform any of the underlying rot in an industry peppered by people who view journalism as a purely extractive profit-taking exercise. The kinds of folks that make $835,000 incompetently implementing a new hare-brained pivot every seven months in the pretense they’re helping very much like things the way they are.

So, barring some unforeseen innovation, or a transformative epiphany by those with wealth and power (a segment not always keen on independent journalism that critiques wealth and power), this is, with fleeting exception, precisely how things will remain until the wheels come completely off.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Re:

Also “Everything is a business” may account for 90% of the US wealth today.
Or maybe we shouldn’t say wealth but (national like private) debt, because the richest get richer, the poorest get even poorer, but the whole debt is still rising everywhere.
“Please insert coin” to continue the game…

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Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re:

“the profit motive to encourage people to produce”

Ahh, yes. The proverbial carrot upon a stick.
Thing is, one never gets the carrot.

IMO, there are some things that simply make no sense being profit driven. The profit motive will short circuit progress. For example, why create a cure when the treatment is creating so much profit.

bhull242 (profile) says:

Re: Re:

Given that this isn’t a communist nation, I don’t see how the collapse of the Soviet Union or the horrors of communism are even remotely relevant here. Since we don’t have to deal with communism, and I don’t know that any major country other than a few in South America is actually communist (as opposed to being capitalist but just calling themselves communist, like China does), so I can’t see how any of our problems, let alone over 10%, could be attributed to communism.

And there are plenty of options besides what we have in America right now and actual communism. You’re presenting a false dichotomy.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:

There are no communist nations, what people generally call “communist nations” are just kleptocracies and/or dictatorships with a ruling elite putting up a thin veneer of excuses that says they are communist paradises while trying to placating the masses by blaming all the ills on the capitalist foreign devils or some such.

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ML2 (profile) says:

Two brighter things to hopefully reduce Bode's (understandable) despair

On the one hand, this is depressing, and as another commenter noted, common throughout society at the moment. On the other hand I did notice some bright spots as of late in the news, hiding in the gloom.

  1. If I recall correctly there’s at least one other new site besides 404 Media formed in response to brunchlords that I am aware of. I think this was brought up in the insider chat, but after The Escapist video team left in response to the actions of one brunchlord there, they founded their own new (employee owned) channel and company and have been doing quite well.
  2. In the video gaming space, there’s been a string of indie games hitting it out of the park, and this is in no small part to traditional gaming giants failing over and over again to produce games players actually want to play.

To be honest I am curious if there’s any way to encourage and help employees at such companies to systematically found new employee owned outfits whenever the brunchlords fail upwards at their expense. I’d be interested in seeing what is being done on that front.

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James Burkhardt (profile) says:

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Second Wind is the post escapist channel.

I’d shout out Dropout. After the facebook video scandal cost College Humor their existing website, Dropout was the replacement. Despite being a consistent source of growing revenue and a large revenue source pre-facebook, the brunchlord conglomerate that owned College Humor decided to cut the high up-front expenses.

Sam Reich bought up the peices and held dropout together, and its one of the big independent streaming successes right now.

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Benjamin Jay Barber says:

Re: Karl Bode is Seething Again

Instead, a rotating crop of hedge fund bros, VCs, and bankers decided to treat an essential cornerstone of functional U.S. society like a disposable napkin.

He is complaining that people should lose money to provide him and his industry with welfare.

More broadly, there’s simply no financial incentive to fix or reform any of the underlying rot in an industry peppered by people who view journalism as a purely extractive profit-taking exercise.

Yet when someone does create a “peer to peer” news model like substack, Karl Bode will complain that they’re “white supremacists”, for letting people directly fund journalists of their own choice, instead of relying on a advertising model.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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When a “peer to peer” news model like Substack actually pay white supremacists they are in fact funding the latter. Why do you think Substack defended the practice while banning a couple of token-accounts that were particularly vile in an effort to placate the critics?

It also seems you missed that TD isn’t the only place that highlighted what Substack was doing, it was even talked about in MSM.

Perhaps leave your basement once in a while, you might learn something useful.

Anonymous Coward says:

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(1.) It’s Audacy. (Audacity is the audio editor.)

(2.) It’s likely not as bad as the potential takeover that Cumulus is now fighting; see, e.g., https://www.insideradio.com/free/in-request-to-fcc-cumulus-seeks-foreign-money-and-help-resisting-unwanted-takeover-advances/article_1ca89ec2-d546-11ee-aaac-bb4c1e4191c0.html.

(3.) Similar stuff also happens in the public-media sector–such as https://washingtoncitypaper.com/article/680833/dcist-shuts-down-15-staffers-laid-off.

That One Guy (profile) says:

'If I blame them my boss is going to ask why I'm being mean to his buddies...'

Well of course most of the ‘traditional’ media outlets aren’t going to blame the ‘news is only good for making the company owners money’ managers and owners for the string of failures of their respective publications, who do you think runs and owns those traditional media outlets?

Nemo_bis (profile) says:

Alternative story by Harry Cheadle

Yes, sure, Vice Media management was bad. Meanwhile they accidentally paid some people who did good journalism, in the pursuit of growth. But was there ever any chance of such fantastical growth being financially sustainable?

But upon what was that excess built? It wasn’t all those award-winning journalists—they got hired, for the most part, after Vice was already on the rise. It wasn’t that Vice went through a period of gangbusters profitability—the most optimistic insiders only ever claimed “intermittent” profitability. In reality, it was bankrolled almost entirely by investors who believed that it was poised for world domination.

https://newrepublic.com/article/179276/vice-magazine-history-layoffs-digital-media-bubble

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mick says:

So work at Quiznos

If you can make more money working at Quiznos than writing for a trash website, they go work at Quiznos. Or go write for a better website.

“Can you believe they only paid writers $35K in NYC???!” isn’t all that shocking to me. Because a writer who settles for $35K in NYC — instead of making more at Starbucks — either isn’t that good, or isn’t that smart. Vive’s content tells me it was a mix of both

They might even be the type of writer who re-uses the term “brunchlords” in every article they write, thinking it clever instead of overly cutesy.

I dislike the fail-upwards crowd as much as anyone, but in this case, those people were enabled by the terrible decisions of the writers who propped them up.

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That One Guy (profile) says:

Re: It's their fault for not pulling on those bootstraps hard enough!

Tell me you’ve never been in a position where you struggled to find a job and had to settle for whatever you could get in order to pay the bills without telling me you’ve never been in either position.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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People in such a privilege have a tendency to buy into the “just world” fallacy.

So while his post is absolutely dripping in privilege, he’s actually convinced himself that’s all a matter of hard work.

Put another way, people born on third base love to live their lives believing they hit a home run.

Anonymous Coward says:

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Tell me you’ve never been in a position where you struggled to find a job and had to settle for whatever you could get

I don’t understand how this relates to mick’s message. Isn’t “get a job at [a fast food restaurant]” pretty much the definition of “settl[ing] for whatever you could get”? Or are you suggesting people settled for jobs at Vice because they… what, didn’t have the family connections to get into Quiznos?

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SonicAnatidae (profile) says:

The reason why ad revenue has cratered is like most things. Abuse.

We can no longer open just an article and read content. Now, we have to wade through an utterly egregious amount of fly-out videos, moving ads, videos that IN-FUCKING-SIST on playing and more.

Ad revenue was a necessary evil, and user put up with it, because we understood that without revenue, the doors close. But thanks to human greed, it’s the equivalent of the deluge of email spam anyone with an email account older than 2 years deals with and the whole fucking thing is detested by most.

In fact, there are a large number of people like me that the best way to get us never to buy an advertised product is to shove fucking ads in our faces with impossible to click Xs, and a fucking grudge against quietly reading content.

Fuck Advertising and Advertisers. That’s where we are now.

Well done, media?

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That One Guy (profile) says:

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Ad-valanches are problematic enough but the fact that they can be and have been used as vectors for malware because those serving ads can’t be bothered to make sure they’re not handing out poisoned ‘meals’ is also a major factor in why they’ve become considered not just toxic but dangerous.

Anonmylous says:

Can we please stop saying “At the same time, our federal media policies have been abysmal failures, with policymakers routinely turning a blind eye to mindless consolidation and the impact it has on media diversity.”

They are very aware what consolidation means for them. It means far fewer people in control of news media. That means far fewer people to influence into positive journalism pieces puffing them up. Far fewer people to involve in swaying public opinion. Far fewer people controlling the narrative. This is not and never has been a one-party initiative.

They are intentionally complicit.

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Benjamin Jay Barber says:

Karl Bode is Seething Again

Instead, a rotating crop of hedge fund bros, VCs, and bankers decided to treat an essential cornerstone of functional U.S. society like a disposable napkin.

Didn’t they literally all lose money funding left wing journalists, and now all you want to do is complain that they wont give away more free money.

Numerous Vice editors and staff writers were paid salaries as little as $35,000 a year in New York City

How many dollars an hour did they get paid? it looks like part time salary to me, but in any event there is no reason to live in NYC if your job is proofreading internet news. If they were smart they would learn from everyone else leaving, and move somewhere where its actually possible to save for a house.

More broadly, there’s simply no financial incentive to fix or reform any of the underlying rot in an industry peppered by people who view journalism as a purely extractive profit-taking exercise.

Its almost as if someone tried to do this, and called their website substack, only to have deranged leftists like Karl Bode complain about “nazis”, because they wanted to allow readers to directly support journalists of the readers choosing, and those journalists were not sufficiently leftists.

Drew Wilson (user link) says:

Better Staffing Ranks > Higher Executive Compensation

I already knew this was not how I plan on running a website, but Vice offered a great reminder that the primary financial focus of a business is not to furnish executives with the biggest salaries. Anything north of $200,000 per year is obviously excessive. Unless the company can easily shoulder it, there are better places to spend that money.

If my website was that big and I had a choice between making $640,000 per year or putting a vast majority of that money into paying for a bigger staff to produce and promote high quality content, I’d choose the latter. To me, that doesn’t even seem like a serious question. You have to think towards the future and investing in your workforce is huge in that regard.

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