ExTwitter Suspends Reporter For ‘Manipulation And Spam’ Hours After Publishing An Article About ‘Manipulation And Spam’ On ExTwitter

from the free-speech-means-only-speech-elon-likes dept

Writer Séamas O’Reilly published his weekly column at the Irish Examiner on Saturday, talking about how spam, scams, and manipulation attempts are flooding the internet. It’s a good article and well worth reading, basically just talking about the proliferation of nonsense online, much of which includes scammers trying to steal money from people. Here’s just a snippet:

This has created what has become known as The Dead Internet; huge swathes of the web comprised entirely of bots, often talking to each other, in a never-ending churn of contentless garbage which may now outnumber the population of actual humans.

Sometimes, the mask slips. If, for example, the language modeller OpenAI is incapable of fulfilling a task, it returns the message ‘sorry, I cannot generate the requested content as it violates OpenAI’s use case policy’. 

Doing a search for that term returns tens of thousands of accounts, posts, products, reviews, listings and personal websites — all fake, and growing in number every day. 

The piece isn’t really about ExTwitter, but among the many things it mentions is ExTwitter, in noting that in response to an earlier column O’Reilly had written, a bluecheck scammer replied to the column being posted there, pushing people to pay for porn videos:

Sometimes, the effects are merely comical. Last week’s edition of this column was an explainer on the Stormont deadlock, on the eve of its being broken by the DUP. 

Now, I will admit I considered this a perfectly lucid and entertaining bit of writing, but an X user was so moved by its analysis that she replied, immediately, with a payment link to videos of her porn.

Such tactics are not new, of course, but they are much more regular than they were even a year ago, having been granted greater license by slack regulation. 

To take the above incident as just one example, that scam bot had a blue check mark, meaning that, unlike me, it pays money every month to Elon Musk’s vastly indebted and unprofitable platform, a situation which would greatly disincentive his company taking proactive measures to weed them out. 

That’s the entirety of the mention of ExTwitter. But, within a few hours, O’Reilly found that his own account on ExTwitter had been permanently suspended for spam and manipulation.

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Very free speech, much absolutism.

Now, again, Elon has every right to remove anyone he wants from his platform for violating the rules, and since it’s his site he gets to both decide the rules and what violates them. I’m not arguing that he’s done anything wrong here.

But it does seem a bit hypocritical of him, does it not? He insists that he took over the site to bring back everyone who was suspended (and has brought back all sorts of nonsense peddlers, and has been fine with all sorts of bigotry). But, someone calls him out, and bam, they’re gone.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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As someone who lives in a country where the media IS a propaganda mouthpiece…

I know how to check how biased news sources are. And the first stop is to Media Bias/Fact Check.

So, that is what the site says…

Overall, we rate The Irish Examiner Left-Center Biased based on social democratic editorial positions. We also rate them Mostly Factual in reporting rather than High due to a failed fact check.

Would you like to check the site itself?

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Koby (profile) says:

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I don’t think anyone disputes that they exist.

Possibility 1.) A relatively unknown writer decided to bot boost his social media account to get attention, despite the irony.

Possibility 2.) A bot network is donating its time and resources to both bring attention to a cause contrary to its own existence, and in the hopes of generating a false flag attack.

Also:

https://www.msn.com/en-ie/entertainment/news/irish-journalist-says-xtwitter-suspended-his-account-after-he-posted-article-criticising-the-platform-for-bots/ar-BB1icEul

If doesn’t surprise me that an apparatchik search engine might be hiding results. Consider using free speech alternatives.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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Or we can go with Possibility 3: A bunch of bots swarmed on an article that effectively SEO’d itself into being a bot-swarm target. That is the simplest and most likely explanation, which means it stands a much better chance of being true than do your baseless assertions.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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https://www.msn.com/en-ie/entertainment/news/irish-journalist-says-xtwitter-suspended-his-account-after-he-posted-article-criticising-the-platform-for-bots/ar-BB1icEul
If doesn’t surprise me that an apparatchik search engine might be hiding results. Consider using free speech alternatives.

The article was ‘hidden’ was because I was searching for an your claims of a traffic spike. Nothing in that article supports claims of an increase in traffic. I would never find it, because I was searching for claims that do not exist. Its really easy to claim its my search engine is actively censoring my results when you lie about what the article said.

Your claim that “According to additional reporting from MSN, O’Reilly received a deluge of traffic after posting the column…” is unsupported. Absent that data, your conclusion that the bot behavior is only explained as an effort to boost O’Reilly falls flat. Any arguement that relies on claims about how much time and energy the people behind the bots are putting into boosting him is without support. He has bots, Musk has bots, anyone with a large follower count has bots interacting with their stuff. You need to evidence the claim that the energy is significant and unusual. That the scope of the bot interactions is different. Something. And to that end your framing of the 75% claim is a lie. It was not a claim that 75% of engagement was bots. It wasn’t reported as a definitive number even. It was a hyperbolic claim intended to indicate the vast majority of his responces were from bots whose clear goal was to scam his followers.

It has long been noted, by Musk himself, that bots swarm big accounts after every post. That it makes the site almost unusable. A common discussion in the here and now is how bots are swarming posts with spam sales links. A reasonable third possibility to those you present is that spam bots use high-visibility accounts like O’Reily and Musk to improve the chances of their fishing expidition. The reason the spam bots were noted at all by MSN was O’reily drew attention to what the bots were actually doing nearly free guerilla advertising of drop shipped junk and scams.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Also, the article itself is from the Irish Independent, but reposted by MSN. You apparently have no idea what MSN’s news-related model is.

If you didn’t even bother mentioning the true/original source, why should anyone blindly look for anything that MSN just happens to repost?

Google gave me https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/irish-journalist-says-xtwitter-suspended-his-account-after-he-posted-article-criticising-the-platform-for-bots/a395074121.html just fine.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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In other words, he either bot boosted an article about botting, or else the botting services are giving him a freebie.

You need to up your reading comprehension, dude.

See: Séamas O’Reilly: I criticised ‘free speech absolutist’ Elon Musk’s X. My account was suspended where your 75% figure comes from.

Five minutes since I’d posted that article on Twitter, 75% of the replies I’d received had themselves been spam bots trying to sell fake shite to my followers.

Not something beneficial for O’Reilly, no matter how you spin it. And describing self-interest on the part of the bot runners as “a freebie” is like calling #GamerGate “constructive criticism”.

Anonymous Coward says:

Charitable explanation: The account was banned by mistake (e.g. all the spam responses to it led to moderators or auto-mods assuming the account was spamming, the account was falsely mass-reported by Musk simps and the moderators didn’t bother to check if there was any truth to the reports).

Cynical explanation: The account was banned on purpose for making Musk’s reign look bad.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Yeah, more porn-bots, more scam-bots, more bots in general, more cruelty, inferior moderation, people (and bots) who pay extra get prioritized in the algorithm, neo-Nazis and other extremely prejudiced people are welcomed with open arms and even boosted by the boss… what a lovely place–if you’re evil and/or a charlatan.

Twitter still has its uses to me, but I find pre-Musk Twitter (which, to be fair, was no paradise) vastly superior.

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