Error 402: Would You Pay A Tenth Of A Penny For This Article?

from the please-deposit-your-micropennies-in-the-slot dept

In our continuing Error 402 series on the monetization of web content, we’ve been talking a lot about things that haven’t worked and a few things that have (kinda?) worked, but not in a particularly appealing way (ads, mainly). We will eventually get to more examples of things that are working — along with some areas that might hopefully work better in the future — but today we have another story of a regularly hyped up idea… that never quite seems to work: micropayments.

Thinking about micropayments for digital content predates the modern internet. Ted Nelson, who envisioned a very different kind of digital hypertext system in the 1960s called Xanadu, had assumed that it would make use of micropayments. But instead we got the World Wide Web and its vision of hypertext and related concepts.

The lack of an actual implementation of the Error 402 Payment Required functionality is often chalked up to the lack of an infrastructure that could handle micropayments. In the early years, this was often blamed on a variety of different technical issues, such as how to manage transaction costs when payments were tiny (envisioned to be less than a penny). With credit cards charging a percentage plus a small fixed fee for each transaction, that just doesn’t work for true micropayments.

There were, of course, some attempts to get around this technically, usually through bundling and tokens, with the idea being that even if the transactions for something that costs $0.001 would be too big, if you bundle together a million such transactions by using tokens in the interim, then settle up across the larger bundle, the transaction costs turn out to be lower. Historically, though, those systems were cumbersome and complicated and didn’t get much usage.

There have been other attempts to deal with the transaction cost problem, including (notably, and with disclaimers) the Interledger Protocol (the Foundation behind which is sponsoring this series), but there remain questions about whether or not this was really a technological problem blocking adoption or if there were aspects that were even more fundamental.

For example there have been many discussions on the issue of mental transaction costs. Nick Szabo, who has been involved in the digital currency world longer than most people, wrote extensively about the mental transaction cost issue back in the 1990s.

The short version, though, is if you have to pay something for every article you read, you have to have a mental debate over whether or not it’s worth paying, and that mental process of considering whether or not something is worth a tenth of a penny (or less or whatever) when you don’t know what it is before you’ve even read it is taxing. And if you have to do that for everything you read, it becomes very taxing, such that people just won’t bother.

That doesn’t mean it’s impossible. As lots of people point out, for most people electric bills effectively work on a kind of micropayment system, where turning on your lights does cost a little bit, but your bill is based on adding up all the little uses of electricity and then presenting you with a bundled up bill. Not that anyone particularly enjoys getting their electricity bills, but at least you can understand how it came about.

That said, electricity is different. For one, you know what you’re getting (mostly) when you utilize electricity (your light turns on! your computer boots up! etc). One reason micropayments for content are trickier is you have no idea if what you’re going to read will even be worth it.

I’ve heard of a proposed solution to this: make micropayments reversible for some period of time, such that if you open an article and regret it, you can get your money back with one click. Of course, that would also be open to gaming.

About a decade ago we saw a flurry of attempts to do micropayments in a manner that minimized the mental transaction cost by using a flat-rate system. While there were a number of companies that tried this, the one I was most familiar with (and tried here on Techdirt) was Flattr. The idea with Flattr was that you designated some monthly flat rate that you would pay ($5? $10? whatever) and then as you browsed the web, if you encountered websites that used Flattr and had Flattr buttons on them, you could “upvote” that content, and thereby allocate some percentage of your monthly fees to that site.

So, for example, if you visit 100 sites with Flattr enabled, and click the button on each of them, then your $5 would be split with $0.05 going to each site (there were also transaction fees and Flattr’s own cut, but you get the idea). The upvoting also (in theory) created a Reddit-like directory of content people were enjoying so much they were giving money.

So this model could reach the level of micropayments, but without the mental transaction cost of having to think through “will this particular site be worth any money,” because no matter what you’re paying your $5/month. The only question is how that $5 gets divvied up.

But, also, it wasn’t required, so there was a different kind of mental cost: the cost of remembering to click the Flattr buttons, and the decision about whether you wanted to share some of your monthly donation with that particular site. Again, there are possible ways of dealing with some of this, including not needing to click but just designating the money based on visits, but that then risks the possibility of giving money to a site you “hate read.”

Of course, there’s still a larger and more fundamental problem with micropayments: most of the web is still pretty much free. We can go back to our “information wants to be expensive; information wants to be free” discussion. When you have a ton of supply, much of it available for free, it’s always going to be difficult (though far from impossible) to convince people to step up and pay. This is why advertising still remains the top method of monetization: the end user doesn’t have to pay (other than in annoyance).

And, thus, even if you can solve the technical transaction problems, and avoid the mental transaction problems, is there any way to still make it work? Hopefully, the answer is yes… and we’ll keep exploring some of what is working and where it might go as the series continues.

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Anonymous Coward says:

I’ve heard of a proposed solution to this: make micropayments reversible for some period of time, such that if you open an article and regret it, you can get your money back with one click.

For me, and probably a lot of people, if I had to spend 5 seconds (finding and click the undo button, and w/e confirmation it may have) to get my 1cent back… it wouldn’t be worth it. Specially if I just sunk 2 minutes reading something that wasn’t want I hoped.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:4

Socialism is good after all?

Not at all. Once I’d been maimed at the iron ore smelter, it would’ve been far more compassionate (and just) if I’d been liquidated. Since I was already a convicted felon, I was prohibited from owning firearms and couldn’t shoot myself in the head, though the little stubs where my hands used to be wouldn’t have allowed me to effectively handle my old duty pistol anyway.

Thus, with neither the State nor my former employer having the balls to do the right thing and euthanize me the moment I became an unproductive drain on society, I spend my days denouncing you libtards who reflexively oppose smart policy like Aktion T4 and bleat on endlessly about how “bad” Nazis allegedly are.

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Ehud Gavron (profile) says:

Spam showed this won't work

When spam first started getting big, a proposed solution was a $0.01/email for every email sent. For normal people this doesn’t amount to much, and if it does you could make it $0.001 or whatever. For spammers it costs a lot.

The problem is the spammers can use intermediate (possibly infected, RATted, etc.) systems to send the email… so they pay nothing, but the victim machine owner gets a hefty fine. That’s obvious not fair or workable. Just like an IP address is not a person, neither is a mail relay host a billable entity.

Same problem here. Today most of the time when we browse our browser makes a direct connection to the server, we download the article and enjoy it. However, web proxies have been around since the days of Spyglass then IE and Netscape Navigator.

BlackHats could then offer a set of infected web proxies. You pay the blackhat, you browse through these web proxies. Web proxy owners get the invoices. (Actually those responsible for the IP address of the web proxy would… and we already know that’s not a billable entity.)

Societal problems can’t be solved by technical means. It’s never worked. It won’t work here.

Content creators need to create content so compelling that it will be easy to monetize it. See e.g. Mr. Beats, Kim Kardashian, makers on Etsy, etc. If they make crap they’ll earn crap. See e.g. Sports Illustrated, Newsweek, US News and World Distort, PragerU, etc.

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Anonymous Coward says:

The short version, though, is if you have to pay something for every article you read, you have to have a mental debate over whether or not it’s worth paying

While having to think about the financial cost is one thing, there’s also the privacy aspect. Even browser history is too invasive for me (but, really, has anyone ever been pleased to find their browser is recording every page they visit?; I’ve heard people joke that their history is embarrass them or get them on “a list”, but never praise the feature).

So, if some third party is gonna be watching everything I do online, it’s a non-starter. Even worse if I have to identify myself directly to each site, and maybe spend longer reading terms of service and privacy policies that I would reading the article.

As for “gaming” the refunds, I see that as a non-problem if done properly (in other words: no difficulty or penalty for the reader or site). The site’s still getting an income stream that wasn’t there previously, even if it’s not quite as large as they’d like.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re:

If I’m trying to find an webpage that I know I’ve visited before, I’ll generally try searching my browser history for that page rather than trying a more general search engine. And since searching my browser history doesn’t involve someone else’s computer, I’d argue that that action has better privacy than using an external search engine – even a more privacy focused one. So, that’s at least one way that the browser recording every page I visit is useful to me.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re:

Well, okay, now I know there’s at least one person using it. It’d be fine if it were opt-in, and I wonder how many people would actually opt to enable it. Maybe 10 or 20% (I’m guessing) if the question were asked explicitly, and probably under 1% if people had to seek out a checkbox.

Personally, I think using a privacy-focused search engine anonymously (e.g., via Tor) would generally be fine, and would be less likely to accidentally leave behind unwanted data. If I think I’ll want to find a page again and it’ll be difficult to find with a search engine, or I’d rather not do that, I’ll just bookmark it.

PaulT (profile) says:

Re:

The fundamental problems with paywalls for me as they exist now is that they assume that a) people specifically intended to come to you and that b) what you offer is automatically more valuable than non-paywalled sources.

Maybe it’s the way I choose to browse, but most of the time that isn’t true. I often come across random sites where I only visit because an aggregator, blog or social media feed linked to it as a primary source. I’d never sub to a source that I’m only going to because a third party said it was useful, and I’m not sure if I’d ever go again. Especially if the first time I go there I’m not even allowed to evaluate the source before paying.

I understand that the news business has been more difficult since their revenue from classifieds, etc. was reduced to a pittance and they can’t depend on online ads to make up the difference, but an automatic payment whether or not they’re useful isn’t going to help. In fact, I’d say that if you think clickbait is bad now, wait till they are guaranteed money for bad takes.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re:

Your browser history is local and there for you, like bookmarks. It has always been able to be cleared, even automatically, and since ages you can browse “incognito” or whatever they call it. The cache would be equally invasive, but somehow less obvious? That can be cleared also. Can’t avoid having a cache at all, because you wouldn’t be browsing the web then.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re:

Your browser history is local and there for you

Look through popular-culture references to browser history, and you’ll find many people believe it’s mostly working against them.

Can’t avoid having a cache at all, because you wouldn’t be browsing the web then.

Disk(/SSD) cache hasn’t been necessary for decades. It can be in RAM only. Any computer feature that records what people are doing—this also goes for things like software “most recently used” lists—should be opt-in. A simple question at first startup, like “do you want this program locally recording what you look at?”, could give us some idea of what people really think about these things.

Qazwart (profile) says:

A lot of people are tired of the free, but we bombard you with ads and get to sell your information Internet model.

I have multiple Patreon sponsorships. I support particular people even though much of their content is free. I’ve joined Nebula which is a collection of channels. They split up my monthly payment based upon who I view. Then, there are the sites I actually subscribe to.

Heck, I’m thinking of subscribing to Kagi, a web search engine with no ads, but requires a monthly payment.

We keep saying that the payment model doesn’t work, and every time we say it, we convince people that paying is abnormal and you shouldn’t do it.

spamvictim (profile) says:

This is a very old discussion

Andrew Odlyzko has been writing about micropayments (“they’re like gallium arsenide, the technology of the future and always will be”) for two decades, arriving at conclusions similar to yours.

He points out that phone companies had this debate a century ago, metered vs. flat rate local calls. In the US with private phone companies, they all went to flat rate, in Europe with PTTs they were until recently all metered.

https://www-users.cse.umn.edu/~odlyzko/doc/case.against.micropayments.pdf

alphonsetomato (profile) says:

Re: Metered vs flat rate

US telcos did mostly go to flat rate, but it’s fairly recent. In the 1970s big city I think everybody was metered. Same in the 1980s (flat rate cost more unless you were on the phone a lot). Same even in the 1990s (I switched to flat rate mid 90s because I ran a BBS and they wouldn’t let me have flat rate on just that line). Prepaid cellphone is usually still metered. My VoIP is metered.

I’m not on the phone a lot, and I’m cheap. My experience has always been that flat rate cost me more than metered.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re:

In the 1970s big city I think everybody was metered. Same in the 1980s

I think your experience having that in a big U.S. city was pretty unusual. Granted, I grew up in Canada, but I’ve never even heard of anyone in North America having metered local calls on landlines. Wikipedia says for “Automated Message Accounting” that “most residential lines did not pay for local calls”. That was one of things that made people wary of cellular phones when they were new.

BBS: The Documentary mentions many people being surprised by long distance bills—having to figure out rate charts, free ways to call, etc.—but says nothing about people getting big local-calling bills. Nor have I ever seen an American TV show or film where someone worried about a local call costing money, but lots where a phone owner verified the call was local before letting someone use their phone. Shows would often have kids tying up the line for long periods talking to nearby friends, but depict people as curt on non-local calls (“I can’t talk long” or “no, I won’t hold”—”this is long-distance”; and, later, “I’ll call you back from my landline”). As a kid, we all knew never to make long distance calls without advance planning and permission.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:

I think your experience having [non-flat-rate local calling] in a big U.S. city was pretty unusual.

Here’s a reference (PDF page 5):

For example, during the 1970s, the Bell System started offering customers a choice between the the traditional flat rate option… and of a measured rate option… in… numerous trials…

(Fishburn; Odlyzko; Siders – Fixed Fee Versus Unit Pricing for Information Goods: Competition, Equilibria, and Price Wars; December 1999)

Anonymous Coward says:

Re:

Andrew Odlyzko has been writing about micropayments (“they’re like gallium arsenide, the technology of the future and always will be”)

Well, GaN power bricks are now easily purchased on the open market…

That paper has some good points, but never really defines “micropayment” except to say it refers “to systems where value changes hands at the time of the transaction. Accounted systems, such as electricity meters […] are not micropayments”. And I’ve often found some people’s definitions of micropayments to be bizarre; they might say amount of 20 cents or a dollar would count, whereas to me that’s just a “payment”—and probably once a month I make a payment that small at a grocery store, with no special treatment (like one or two bananas, or a small amount of bulk bean sprouts).

Mike seems to be talking about payments that are potentially smaller than a cent, which I find more reasonable. It is, after all, something that could not be done with physical currency. But I agree with Andrew’s point (in section 5) about anonymity. It’s the reason I still pay for most things with cash.

G says:

yes.

I honestly think done right, this could help avoid enshitification. What we need is an easy, simple as cash, trivial payment system. For example, if there’s a news article I want to read, I buy today’s paper, or the magazine that it’s in. I’m willing to to the same for articles I’m interested in reading but I desperately want to avoid more subscriptions and other spam-generating, info-gathering, community-building crap that goes along with them. I would not think twice if there was a digital coinslot where I could anonymously and easilyt pay the equivalent price to what they would get by spamming ads and selling my data.

No, not crypto. I think banks, or credit card companies or something could make this happpen, a standard similar to ACH but for trivial, microtransactions.

PaulT (profile) says:

Re:

“For example, if there’s a news article I want to read, I buy today’s paper, or the magazine that it’s in”

Except, that was never the case. The business model used to be that classifieds, personals, etc., paid the cost of the paper and they’d expect a paper paid for by a customer to be read by several people for free. Hell, there’s still print newspapers for free.

A payment service might work for some, but you still have the problem where they’re asking for payment before seeing if the content is valuable. It might be an alternative to ads since at the end of the day the objection is often malware and privacy rather than paying, but introducing a direct payment might well reduce direct engagement even further, which would clearly lead to more clickbait.

Duke of Good (profile) says:

Re: Re: crypto's are up to the task

While crypto currency is still trying to find a place in our cash filled world, one very viable use case is to take advantage of it’s ability to charge a tiny fraction of a cent.
For example, sending an email would cost. For you and me, might add up to be .50 cents a year, but to those guys, they couldn’t stay in business.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re:

“G” explicitly wrote “if… I could anonymously… pay”, but was probably wrong about this being somehow possible without crypto.

For those who aren’t aware, David Chaum basically figured out anonymous “digital coin” payment systems in the 1980s. See Chaum’s Wikipedia article. But it does use crypto (as do all modern credit and debit cards, online banking systems, and ACH networks… there’s really no getting around it). Chaum’s work with making it anonymous, though, never became popular, except among crytography nerds.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re:

What we need is an easy, simple as cash, trivial payment system. […] a digital coinslot where I could anonymously and easilyt pay the equivalent price to what they would get by spamming ads and selling my data.

Such amounts are probably less than what would be possible to pay with cash. That is, less than a cent per viewing (hence, advertisers measure in “cost per mille”, or “CPM”, being the cost per one thousand viewings). And as I wrote in a another comment, “less than is possible with cash” is a pre-condition for calling something a “micropayment” in my opinion.

LostInLoDOS (profile) says:

Micropayments are alive and well

I’ve touched on this before. Micropayments are alive and well outside the US and EU. Anywhere where digital phone-based payments are common.
Programs like Q in China. Where you can pay for x transactions up front or be billed for all transactions monthly. Gcash has played with the method on and off since it began.

The mindset of cost is something that is very different in countries that came up with daily technology (west) vs countries that jumped in to high tech all at once, eg Singapore, Philippines. With China and Japan being, somewhat, part of both. You see it in South America for a different reason.

The big drive for it was not the internet though. These countries, large population mass got cellphones all at once. In many cases daily payments involve hundreds or thousands of monetary units. When you see 1000 units for a few days of food, or 10000, micropayments are easier to digest in daily life.
It’s more a matter of how people see the monetary system. Right now there are many airport news kiosks where you can download articles from local and international news to your phone (wifi or BT) to an app for tenths of a cent. Bus tickets break down to hundredths of a cent.

I had a roaming bill that cost me an extra penny because it broke down to 1000ths of a penny billing by the byte.

We won’t change perceptions here on value any time soon. But it definitely works where the population is used to long strings of numbers.

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Error 402 is a series looking at the past, present, and future of online monetization, published with support from The Interledger Foundation

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