No, Trademark Squatting On Anti-Israel Phrase Won’t Keep It From Use

from the not-gonna-work dept

For some reason, there are enough people who are ignorant enough about trademark law such that every once in a while you get people who don’t like a thing trying to trademark that thing thinking they can prevent that thing from being done or used. It’s a form of trademark squatting. Confused? An example would be one man who thought he could keep the NFL’s Raiders in Oakland merely by applying for a trademark on “San Antonio Raiders,” where the team was rumored to relocate to. Stuff like that doesn’t work, primarily because you have to actually show a use of the trademark in commerce, or at least a valid intent to use it. You don’t get to go out and trademark something merely to sit on it and prevent someone else from using it.

Which brings us to the war between Israel and Hamas. The brutal conflict is raging once more, as are various political discussions around it. One phrase you are likely to have heard at some point is: “From the river to the sea, Palestine shall be free.” To be clear, that phrase is a hateful, anti-Israel rallying cry that calls for the abolition of the state of Israel. That isn’t to say that there shouldn’t be a Palestinian state, of course, but to pretend like that statement calls for anything less than the destruction of Israel as a state is silly.

Equally silly is two Jewish men in America somehow thinking that they’re going to control the use of the phrase merely by trying to trademark it.

Two Jewish American men have submitted separate trademark applications for the expression “from the river to the sea,” triggering a flurry of reactions. A prominent legal expert has cautioned that the move might have unintended consequences for both the Jewish community and Israel.

Joel Ackerman and Oron Rosenkrantz filed trademark applications for the phrase that refers to the geographic area between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea, encompassing Israel and the Palestinian territories. 

This is pointless at best, and potentially counterproductive to the goal at worst. It’s pointless for a number of reasons. For starters, it’s very unlikely that either trademark application will be approved at all. It’s a widely used political phrase that does nothing to serve as a source identifier of a good. But even if it were granted, it would be for an extremely limited type of goods, such as t-shirts and hats. No such mark would prevent the phrase from being said, chanted, written, nor used on all sorts of other products. It’s simply not going to stifle any real use of the phrase, so what’s the point?

“We don’t know for sure what the outcome will be, but the chances [of their receiving these trademarks] is not that good,” Katzenelson said. “Since it only applies to hats and shirts, stopping its use on other services and goods would be very difficult.”

The counterproductive piece is somewhat akin to the Streisand Effect. Whatever contact the general public has had with this anti-Israel message, now that message is being written and talked about all the more thanks to this attempt to trademark it. And there’s certainly no guarantee that those who come across the message, thanks to all of this, will take the same view of it as these two gentlemen.

Now, again, I don’t expect that these applications will be approved at all. But the point is that there was no reason to attempt any of this to begin with.

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Anonymous Coward says:

To be clear, that phrase is a hateful, anti-Israel rallying cry

That’s just like, your opinion, man. Are you a regular of reader of The Jerusalem Post or something?

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BernardoVerda (profile) says:

Not-so-nitpicky nitpick

Actually, both sides of this ugly mess have been using (and still are using) the formula “from the river to the sea” for a very long time.

It appears likely to have originated in the pre-Israel (pre 1948) Zionist movement, and is still used by both sides — including, for example, by Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu — today.

Anonymous Coward says:

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That would explain why they’ve wanted to trademark this expression (only the first bit of the new Palestine expression), maybe to use it for a pro-Israel products. Or, they wanted, using some trademark bullying, to prevent any pro-Palestine product to use this sentence.

Arijirija says:

To be clear, that phrase is a hateful, anti-Israel rallying cry that calls for the abolition of the state of Israel.

It is hateful? When I was growing up, I was regularly informed that the reason why the Palestinian refugees couldn’t return to what had become Israel was because it was tantamount to the destruction of Israel, ie, the genocide of Israelis. When I became older, I also became wise enough to read the other side of the story, and after reading the PLO’s little booklets on the Nakba, I concluded that that was a scare story and the Palestinian refugees mostly wanted to return home and take up their lives. The more they were denied that, the more revenge took its place – and that’s a common human trait.

I’ll tell you what is a hateful phrase from the other side: Israel Zangwill’s “A land without a people for a people without a land“, which comes out meaning the same, once fed through analysis of the meaning, as the phrase “Terra Nullius“, which was the legal concept used by the British Empire in simply taking Australia with no attempt to work out agreements with the locals, no attempt to gain their consent.

Anonymous Coward says:

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I’ll tell you what is a hateful phrase from the other side: Israel Zangwill’s “A land without a people for a people without a land“

A pretty sickening line, considering the hub of culture, learning, and the people necessary for all that, which Palestine was, back before things like how the terrorist group which would go on to be reformed as the IDF post-1948 blew up all the rail connections to Beirut, Damascus and Cairo.

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Anonymous Coward says:

As a reminder, the IDF is an occupying army, the Israeli government is actively committing genocide, the Palestinians are the ones with the right to defend their existence, and Palestine will be free, from the river to the sea.

Anonymous Coward says:

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Also of note:

Hamas was created with the express purpose of eliminating Israel and the Jewish people. It is also funded by a lot of states who also do not like Israel, chief of which are Iran and… oh look, why are Russia and China on that list as well? Surely it’s not because they oppose American foreign policy as well?

ALso, Zionists willingly allied themselves with the Nazis in WW2, so…

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Yep, ethnic cleansing apologists love erasing criticism of them, much like they love erasing people, their culture, and their history.

LostInLoDOS (profile) says:

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You need to wonder about the side you back when one side is a bunch of thugs that rape and pillage, and the other side is intentionally bombing journalists, not once but twice. Schools. Hospitals.
And no, empty tunnels with no sign of recent use does not convince anyone other than the ignorant and the brainwashed.

Neither government is innocent nor righteous here.

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Bruce Bowden (profile) says:

“From the river to the sea, Palestine shall be free.” To be clear, that phrase is a hateful, anti-Israel rallying cry that calls for the abolition of the state of Israel.

Ok, let’s adjust that a little:

“From the river to the sea, Palestine shall be free.” To be clear, that phrase is a rallying cry that calls for the abolition of the current state of Israel and its replacement with a state where Jews and Palestinians, (and anyone else) can live in peace.

Anonymous Coward says:

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To be clear, that phrase is a rallying cry that calls for the abolition of the current state of Israel and its replacement with a state where Jews and Palestinians, (and anyone else) can live in peace.

If that were what the phrase was about, you’d have a point. But it has never been about that. It has always been about removing all the Jews from the area. There has been no indication of those who use that phrase are looking to live together with Jews.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Nah, TD has ALWAYS been against trademark squatting.

And while you’re right in saying that the state of Israel has been genociding the Gazans since… let’s say 1947 at least, Hamas is also just as much at fault.

Also a fun fact: Russia and China, the two big geopolitical sugar daddies of Iran and lately, the Middle East, have also seen fit to use the Gazans as a political football as well. Russia has close links to Iran, and China has been seen “courting” (read: looking for puppets) both Israel and Palestine, the latter for much, much longer.

At least you know the US stance on Israel, even if Biden has been trying to pretend that he gives a shit about Palestine. Which is far, far better than the full support the US has been giving Israel in times past.

Anonymous Coward says:

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Yeah I mean I agree on the trademark squatting but not the disinfo about the river to the sea slogan, and everyone pointed that out getting flagged. Hamas can’t be just as much at fault given they weren’t even around for most of Israel’s existence, and since they would never have existed without Israel.

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Valis (profile) says:

Let's look at the *facts*

These whites, pretending to be Semitic, these Europeans, invaded and colonised Palestinian land. They murdered thousands of Palestinian people, bulldozed their houses, destroyed their villages, drove them out of their own country. And then pretended and lied, tried to make out that they were the rightful owners of this land, Palestine. Anything Hamas does, is not only legal under international and Human rights law, it’s required for them to drive out these white invaders. Anyone who calls Hamas terrorists is a racist. Full stop.

Anonymous Coward says:

“One phrase you are likely to have heard at some point is: “From the river to the sea, Palestine shall be free.” To be clear, that phrase is a hateful, anti-Israel rallying cry that calls for the abolition of the state of Israel.”

Links.

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