Funniest/Most Insightful Comments Of The Week At Techdirt

from the so-sayeth dept

We’ve got one commenter taking both top spots on the insightful side this week, but also… not really. Because in what I believe is a first, our top winner on the insightful side is Samuel Abram commenting on the previous comments post to celebrate a comment from last week, by Stephen T. Stone, that didn’t quite make the list (and it’s a very good comment). Got that? Here it is:

I want to give a shoutout to my favorite insightful comment of the week, which is this one by Stephen T. Stone:

Trans people are being denied gender affirming healthcare in multiple states thanks to specifically targeted laws, whereas cis people (including teenagers!) can get gender affirming treatments such as breast enhancements without any real trouble. Trans people are being targeted by laws that try to force them out of the public sphere by way of determining what public restrooms they have to use⁠—something cis people will never have to worry about. Trans people are being murdered, harassed into suicide, blamed for crimes against children that they didn’t commit, and generally treated like subhuman filth by conservative jackoffs only because trans people are transgender.

You may not think that’s persecution because trans people aren’t being systematically rounded up into concentration camps or murdered in the streets by a military police group. But that’s the thing about persecution: It never starts with death camps⁠—but on a long enough timeline, it sure as hell ends there. The only way to stop that from happening is to stop the persecution. To do that, you must first admit the persecution is real.

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

The point of that bit of prose: Those who would have defended you against persecution will already be gone thanks in part to you and your indifference towards their persecution. Before you know it, the leopards you thought would never eat your face are making you their next meal. And no one will stop them because the people who might’ve saved you already learned their lesson from your indifference: They’re not you, so they don’t need to speak out when the leopards (fascists) come for your face (your life).

Transgender people are being persecuted regardless of your position on the matter. Will you be courageous and raise your voice against that persecution, or will you be a coward and stay silent as the persecuted suffer and die?

I really felt it was a powerful defense against the genocide that is happening in the US right now against Trans people.

In second place on the insightful side, it’s one of Samuel’s own comments, on our post about Elon Musk talking about paywalling ExTwitter:

To Koby, Matthew M Bennett, and all of the Elon Stanboys…

To every Elon defender here, I say this:

You think X/Twitter is doing so great, eh? Pay up. Put your money where your mouth is.

For editor’s choice on the insightful side, we start out with a comment from Somewhat Less Anonymous Coward in reaction to ExTwitter’s dwindling trust and safety team:

20 trust and safety people for purported 350m active users? I don’t even have a witty comment on that one, this is just staggering.

Next, it’s an anonymous comment about the Biden Administration seeking a deal where it oversees content moderation on TikTok:

Still with the “concerns” about privacy/security somehow leading to control of moderation. How the hell does this work?

The TikTok thing, while being a bunch of xenophobic security theatre, is also a bunch of bafflegab to get a foot in the door. “Well, TikTok is controlled by the government, so shouldn’t all the things be controlled by the government?”

Over on the funny side, our first place winner is an anonymous comment about Musk’s abject failure to eliminate bots leading to the idea of a paywall:

So his solution to kill the bots is to make the product far worse than the bots ever did.

[insert Obi-Wan meme here]

“It was said that you would destroy the bots, not join them!”

In second place, it’s another anonymous comment from that post:

“Twitter Blue failed, so now EVERYONE has to use Twitter Blue! By making it cheaper for everyone!”

I… I’m gonna need to actually develop a drinking habit to handle Elon’s stupidity.

For editor’s choice on the funny side, we’ll start out with Bobson Dugnutt and one more comment about the proposed paywall:

What’s worse than a Nazi bar? A Nazi bar with a cover charge.

And finally, it’s an anonymous comment that could easily go on the insightful side too, regarding the sorry state of the Supreme Court:

There aren’t any justices anymore. Just Justifiers.

That’s all for this week, folks!


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Anonymous Coward says:

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How is it that you really and truly believe that you are somehow going to convert any of us to your point of view?. That’s like banging your head against the wall to make the pain go away, and I’ll bet that’s not working out for you either, is it.

In the final analysis, you don’t live rent-free in our heads, we’re the one’s living rent-free in your head. That’s ’cause we spread the load amongst many TD readers here; you don’t have that luxury.

The German language has a word for you (and your kind): hanswurst. I thought it applicable since you so badly want to be a Nazi ….

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Benjamin Jay Barber says:

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They claim that transgender people are being “genocided”, yet when you support genitally mutilating and sterilizing children, that is somehow NOT genocide.

Not only that but trangeder people are by definition ending their genetic line by doing so, so its functionally impossible to “genocide” a transgender.

Then they want to call people fascists, yet when it comes to totalitarianism, its the left who cant stand freedom of speech, parental control of their childrens education, and systematic discrimination such as affirmative action and “equity”.

War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.

Samuel Abram (profile) says:

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They claim that transgender people are being “genocided”, yet when you support genitally mutilating and sterilizing children, that is somehow NOT genocide.

Not only that but trangeder people are by definition ending their genetic line by doing so, so its functionally impossible to “genocide” a transgender.

You know nothing about being Trans. Not all Trans people get their genitals operated on. There are Trans Women (and yes, they are women) who ejaculate semen and Trans Men (who are men) who can get pregnant (not to mention Non-Binary people who can do one or the other), so you are false in your assertion that trans people are infertile.

Also, if you’re somebody who can’t tell the difference between choosing to get Gender Reassignment Surgery and having others determine that for you, I think it’s you who need help.

its the left who cant stand freedom of speech, parental control of their childrens education,

Yes, it’s the left who has those “don’t say gay” and book bans. Right.

and systematic discrimination such as affirmative action and “equity”.

Do you have a problem with Legacy admissions into colleges? Are you even aware of them?

War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.

You’d do best to follow Orwell’s advice.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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You know nothing about being Trans. Not all Trans people get their genitals operated on. There are Trans Women (and yes, they are women) who ejaculate semen and Trans Men (who are men) who can get pregnant (not to mention Non-Binary people who can do one or the other), so you are false in your assertion that trans people are infertile.

Hymie, that you can write any of this with a straight face shows just how insane you are.

Anonymous Coward says:

While I agree overall with that first insightful comment, it’s totally false that cis people “never” have to deal with worrying about which bathroom to use. They’re tons of examples of cis people being harassed for using the so-called correct restroom. From incidents I’ve seen, usually women who don’t look quite feminine enough.

Of course, this is still because of this ridiculousness, but I couldn’t just let that blatent falsehood go.

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Samuel Abram (profile) says:

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Of course, that proves the point of people like me and Stephen T. Stone: that these transmisic laws harm cisgender people as well and not just transgender people. It’s kind of like how gender-neutral bathrooms also benefit cisgender people and not only transgender people because gender-neutral bathrooms take the fear away from going into the wrong bathroom. Also, for gender-neutral single-stall bathrooms, if one is occupied, use the other one!

My point is this: Laws and policies that protect transgender people protect everybody, and laws and policies that target transgender people have cisgender people as collateral damage.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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it’s totally false that cis people “never” have to deal with worrying about which bathroom to use

A fair point, but I temper that with a qualifier: Cis people generally don’t go out in public thinking they might be harassed for using the “wrong” bathroom. While it might happen to a cis person every so often, it doesn’t happen often enough to make it a regular issue for cis people in general.

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David says:

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While I agree overall with that first insightful comment, it’s totally false that cis people “never” have to deal with worrying about which bathroom to use.

True story: when I was singing tenor in a comparatively renowned university choir, we were singing some large work (complete Bach Christmas Oratorio or something along that line) with a large break in the middle. We were singing in the central auditorium which also houses a concert organ and has considerable basement passages (and connections to the parking areas) for lots of stuff, and the designated choir break room happened to be accessible right through the central ladies’ restroom, sort of a big room with about two dozen stalls and washing basins.

So at the start of the break, I happened to be talking to a member of the audience while eventually going down the stairs to the restrooms and steering towards the ladies’ restroom. My company started looking somewhat quizzical at the doors I was steering towards, and I said in an explanatory voice “that’s the ladies’ restroom”. Before I could offer anything more explanatory, he apologised “oh, I’m sorry” and turned the other way.

To this day I have no idea what he was thinking at the moment or afterwards. There is nothing effeminate about my features and talking voice (I am one of those fake tenors that are actually bass-baritones with a passable upward extension).

Frankly it’s hard for me to understand what all the genetically assigned bathroom drama in the U.S. is pretending to be good for in the first place since anything of possible interest would be hidden away in the stalls.

But recollecting that apology to me still makes me smile.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Frankly it’s hard for me to understand what all the genetically assigned bathroom drama in the U.S. is pretending to be good for in the first place since anything of possible interest would be hidden away in the stalls.

There is a facinating amount of culture and different social ‘outrages’ that go into this, but it might shortcut things to say its simply an extension of the same strategy of social repression that created seperate restrooms for whites and blacks. The culture warriors have simply changed targets. The goal is to create an other, stoke fear over the other, and exclude the other from public life. Than while the people focus on the other, those stoking fear get power higher on the heiarchy and often the people consumed in their fear and an existential threat can’t look too closely at how that power gets used to benefit the powerful, and harm the people.

It may not be intentional. They might not have mapped out this plan in advance, but its the playbook it comes from.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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It is intentional. Conservatism necessarily requires hierarchies, and to achieve such hierarchies, it must categorize people. This is why the social construct of race exists: “White” and “Black” are distinct categories that were initially created to give one group of people power over the other. Gender is much the same way to conservatives⁠—e.g., “there are only two genders”⁠—so anyone or anything that upsets this construct via “non-compliance” is seen by conservatives as a societal threat.

Whether it was Mary Tyler Moore wearing pants on The Dick Van Dyke Show back in the day or a trans woman existing in public today, the moral busybodies who want to enforce their ideas of gender have always found a target for their ire. But these days, the Internet has made that a more violent affair thanks to social media, instant sharing of videos, and the ever-worsening search for clout. (Libs of TikTok, for example, is basically a stochastic terrorism operation at this point.) One has to wonder: How long will it be before one of the bomb threats aimed at a school or a public library or a hospital become a reality⁠—and how fast will conservatives rush to either justify the attack or distance themselves (and their rhetoric) from the attack?

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Hear, hear, Steven! It’s reassuring to see the TD community has trans people’s back.

translation: “It’s reassuring to see the TD community supports the for-profit mutilation and sterilization of vulnerable children and young people.”

Imagine being psyched that you’re part of a group of degenerates who cheer the modern-day equivalent of lobotomy!

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That One Guy (profile) says:

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One side with the heinous and totally insane ideology of ‘hey it would be nice if you would stop treating us as subhuman filth and blaming us for all the stuff your side is doing just because of your obsession with our genitals’, the other side with the entirely reasonable and totally evidence-based ideology of obsessing constantly over the genitals of complete strangers(including kids), blaming the other for anything and everything short of global warming and reasonably keeping people on edge about the threat of the international je- trans by constantly accusing them of their own side’s actions with regards to children.

Yup, one of those is certainly putting forth a ‘gender ideology’ that’s a threat to society and the people living in it…

David says:

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the other side with the entirely reasonable and totally evidence-based ideology of obsessing constantly over the genitals of complete strangers(including kids), blaming the other for anything and everything short of global warming

Stop right there. Why wouldn’t the kind of God reputed for raining fire and brimstone on sinners not revert to global warming as punishment for not stoning the sexually deviant (or otherwise outcast) to death?

I really don’t see why there would be a reason to stop short of blaming tolerant folks for being responsible for global warming.

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Rico R. (profile) says:

Top Comment Inception

So if I make a comment commending Samuel Abram’s comment that commends Stephen T. Stone’s comment, and I get the top vote in a category, does that mean Stephen’s comment somehow wins 2 and a half times?

BTW, congrats to Samuel Abram for the top comment, and to Stephen T. Stone’s comment that prompted it.

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Anonymous Coward says:

One notable point the poem misses

One notably absent fact from the poem – the nazis came for trans people in 1933, going after institutes offering gender affirming care.

It took only eight years to get from there to the holocaust. That’s two US presidential terms.

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David says:

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Well, in a nutshell fascism says that people are there to serve the state rather than the other way round. It’s sort of like despotism without the ultimate goal of maximizing profit to a despot. Like all political theories, it ends up with someone lining their pockets and egos anyway, but in the meantime, it still will serve to justify atrocities against minorities even in peace times.

It is sort of an outlier in that you don’t even need to pervert its central doctrines to make it fit the state trying to kill parts of its populace.

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Abbe Faria says:

Supercilious STStone

He thinks he’s a poet, sooo dramatic. He’s not.

But the reality he can’t see is that ethical doctors are mercifully refusing to medically mutilate mentally ill people for profit.

Mentally ill men cannot become women, and mentally ill women cannot become men. The mental and emotional pain they are experiencing becomes far worse after they are butchered by evil doctors.

Yes, we should try to help the mentally ill. We certainly should not promote mental illness and medical malpractice and pretend such evil is “kindness” or “caring”.

All efforts by good people to reject the imposition of this evil on society deserves our full support.

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Samuel Abram (profile) says:

Re: Everything that you said is wrong.

I mean, the percentage of trans people who regret transitioning is so close to zero it’s insignificant.

Also, Trans People feel less suicidal after transitioning.

But facts don’t matter to transmisic bigots like you.

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That One Guy (profile) says:

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Not to mention to the extent that there might be trans people who regret transitioning the first question I’d be asking is ‘how much of that is due to anti-trans bigots making their life hell’?

It’s like the previous incarnation of this flavor of bigotry claiming how being gay is bad because gay people are more depressed and forgetting to mention the people and groups constantly publicly and at times literally bashing them as subhuman filth.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Talk about living rent-free in your heads; this is my first comment here (because it’s basically a rehash of last week), but you’re all yelling and screaming my name as if I’ve made a dozen. As I’ve said, if you want to know that it’s me, get the site owner to stop sending my signed-in posts to moderation.

Anyway, as per usual:

People can only ever be the sex of their bodies. No amount of costuming, medicine, or surgery can ever change anyone’s sex. Sex is observed and noted at birth or earlier; it is not assigned. Gender is the same as sex. Gender ideology is false, so it should not be taught as true in public schools. No one should be forced to affirm gender ideology even indirectly, such as being asked for assigned sex.

People have cultural, social, and religious taboos against mixing sexes in certain contexts, and therefore people must not be allowed into single-sex spaces for which their bodies disqualify them.

Male trans-deluded activists are misogynists; they both want to be women and despise the real women that they can never be. They seek to replace real women with themselves, such as when they steal medals in those women’s sports that still allow men to compete as women. Trans-deluded male misogynists calling themselves lesbians despise the real lesbians who will never consider them for a romantic or sexual partner. Male rapists calling themselves women seek to further victimize real women by demanding to be incarcerated with them. Trans-deluded activists seek to gaslight mentally ill children and their parents and teachers into having those children be sexually mutilated.

As with facilitated communication and recovered memory, the trans delusion will soon come to be seen as yet another chapter in the inglorious history of pseudoscientific wishful thinking that passes for science in psychology.

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Pamela Allison says:

man abusing woman an molesting kids

Dr Brian Talarico, North Bay Psychiatrist Has been convicted of child molestation, and possession of child pornography on his computer. Sexually molesting a young boy. He had prior convictions for child molestation in 1990 and 2001. After his parole in 2006 Dr. Talarico Brian Works for North Bay Regional Health Centre, and elsewhere, despite his background, and numerous complaints against him of abuse, fraud, negligence, and imprisonment. he has a sexual preference for younger boys, feeds them antipsychotics, and fondles children… we’re now dealing childhood trauma, we’re concerned for the safety of the public

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