Funniest/Most Insightful Comments Of The Week At Techdirt

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This week, our first place winner on the insightful side is James Burkhardt, responding to a commenter who compared Elon Musk’s silly server-destroying adventure to Alexander cutting the Gordian knot, and taking the analogy further:

Except after Alexander cut this knot, the ox cart kept dumping goods on the road, because the knot kept the whole handmade ox cart together. Alexander got the cart from his neighbor, whose land he was now managing. The old man, rather than build a new cart, had been patching the old one together just enough while making more and more runs to market. But Alexander didn’t understand what the knot did, and while the old man told him the knot was important, rather than traace the knot and understand everything it tied together, Alexander just cut the knot.

It doesn’t matter that it was built poorly. The backend Musk had is the backend Musk bought. Musk deciding he had a better backend because he said so doesn’t change that doing what he did caused problems which were not going to help retain users and advertisers, which he desperately needs.

I will remind you again, Twitter made money before Musk. Its not the fault of old management that Musk is bad at basic math.

In second place, it’s Ninja with another comment about the incident:

Every time I read something about Musk the idea that billionaires are some sort of geniuses and not parasites that happen to have inherited or built their fortune on precarious labor exploitation and either illegal or ethically questionable ways seem more and more distant.

Billionaires should not exist.

For editor’s choice on the insightful side, we’ll stay on that post since two different anonymous commenters provided apropos quotes in response. First, it’s a longer one:

Chesterton’s fence

There exists … a certain institution or law; let us say, for the sake of simplicity, a fence or gate erected across a road. The more modern type of reformer goes gaily up to it and says, “I don’t see the use of this; let us clear it away.” To which the more intelligent type of reformer will do well to answer: “If you don’t see the use of it, I certainly won’t let you clear it away. Go away and think. Then, when you can come back and tell me that you do see the use of it, I may allow you to destroy it.”

G. K. Chesterton wrote that in 1929. Ninety-plus years later, Musk hasn’t learned the lesson.

Next, it’s a short and sweet one:

For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong.

– H. L. Mencken

Over on the funny side, our first place winner is Diogenes with a comment about the DOJ’s arguments for why the FTC should be investigating Elon Musk:

biased!

How can the FTC fairly investigate me when they already think I might have done something wrong? Biased!

In second place, it’s an anonymous reply to a commenter trying to dismiss another comment with a quip about it being an attempted haiku:

Anonymous Dude
That was not a haiku there
It was snide mocking

For editor’s choice on the funny side, we might as well wrap things up with two more comments from the post about Musk and the server, since people had lots of jokes. First, it’s radix with a comment about the big padlocks from Home Depot that Musk used:

Hello, this is the Lock Picking Lawyer, and what I have for you today is….and it’s open.

Finally, it’s an anonymous comment about Musk’s interesting theory on how floor weight tolerances work:

And each wheel touches trillions of floor molecules so the weight on each molecule is billionths of a gram. Checkmate stupid CEO!

That’s all for this week, folks!


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Samuel Abram (profile) says:

Shoutout to my favorite insightful comment

I want to give a shoutout to my favorite insightful comment of the week, which is this one by Stephen T. Stone:

Trans people are being denied gender affirming healthcare in multiple states thanks to specifically targeted laws, whereas cis people (including teenagers!) can get gender affirming treatments such as breast enhancements without any real trouble. Trans people are being targeted by laws that try to force them out of the public sphere by way of determining what public restrooms they have to use⁠—something cis people will never have to worry about. Trans people are being murdered, harassed into suicide, blamed for crimes against children that they didn’t commit, and generally treated like subhuman filth by conservative jackoffs only because trans people are transgender.

You may not think that’s persecution because trans people aren’t being systematically rounded up into concentration camps or murdered in the streets by a military police group. But that’s the thing about persecution: It never starts with death camps⁠—but on a long enough timeline, it sure as hell ends there. The only way to stop that from happening is to stop the persecution. To do that, you must first admit the persecution is real.

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

The point of that bit of prose: Those who would have defended you against persecution will already be gone thanks in part to you and your indifference towards their persecution. Before you know it, the leopards you thought would never eat your face are making you their next meal. And no one will stop them because the people who might’ve saved you already learned their lesson from your indifference: They’re not you, so they don’t need to speak out when the leopards (fascists) come for your face (your life).

Transgender people are being persecuted regardless of your position on the matter. Will you be courageous and raise your voice against that persecution, or will you be a coward and stay silent as the persecuted suffer and die?

I really felt it was a powerful defense against the genocide that is happening in the US right now against Trans people.

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Arijirija says:

Re:

True. Homosexuals were among the very first groups the Nazi Party in post-Weimar Germany went after. It took from 1933 to 1941 for the death camps to get fully operational.

Another example would be the time from when the US Congress and executive branch decided they had a Manifest Destiny to expand across the North American continent, and the Trail of Tears, the massacre at Wounded Knee, and the like.

Samuel Abram (profile) says:

Re: Re: Not just the US, but Canada too

Not only the US, but Canada as well. Indigenous children were taken from their parents at a very young age and put into abusive boarding schools in the US and residential schools in Canada. Canada is further along reckoning with its genocidal history than we are; Canada is actually having truth and reconciliation commissions on these schools that caused so much trauma, whereas we in the US are just starting to have a conversation on it. I mean, I had a great education and I didn’t hear about these schools. At the very least, it’s cold comfort that they’re being brought to the light now.

https://boardingschoolhealing.org/interactive-digital-map-of-indian-boarding-schools/

Arijirija says:

Re: Re: Re:

I first read Dee Brown’s “Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee” about 15 years ago. I came to the chapter about the massacre at Sand Creek, and was so angry I couldn’t read on at that time. I picked the book up again, a couple of years later, and was able to read on, but yes. Sweeping things under the mat just makes the mat mound higher and higher and higher …

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Trans-deluded people, especially children, are being prevented from having themselves mutilated in service to mental illness. Cosmetic surgery to improve appearance (in the eyes of the person who wants it) doesn’t destroy that person’s fertility or ability to function sexually.

People can only ever be the sex of their bodies. No amount of dress, cosmetics, medicine, or surgery can ever change a person’s sex. People have social, cultural, and religious taboos against mixing sexes in certain contexts, and people whose bodies disqualify them must not be allowed into those spaces. Gender ideology is false, and therefore should never be taught as true in public schools. Public schools must never be allowed to hide the mental illness of children from their parents.

No amount of screeching “Nazi!” can ever change the tiniest fragment of reality. Reality does not change in the slightest to conform to wishful thinking. Trans-deluded male activists are misogynist men who want to be women, can never be women, and despise women who tell them so. Trans-deluded male “lesbians” despise women who will never see them as sexual or romantic partners. Trans-deluded convicted male rapists are seeking to be incarcerated with women so that they can victimize women again.

People living the trans delusion who seek mere acceptance are being sacrificed by the women-hating activists.

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Arijirija says:

Re: Re:

As Hamlet famously said to Horatio in Shakespeare’s play of the same name, “There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, / Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.”

To quote Anonymous Coward, “People can only ever be the sex of their bodies.” Anonymous Coward is not a biologist, nor a scientist of any other of the biological sciences, that much is certain. Anonymous Coward should study embryology, which it might find things that would amaze it. Such as the existence of psuedohermaphroditism, where the embryo is interrupted in the choice of sex, chooses male, but develops external female sexual characteristics. Internally a male, externally a female. “People can only ever be the sex of their bodies.”?

It seems a lot of people buried curiosity with the cat it killed, and exhume its zombie only to scare people.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:

Hyman Rosen is also not a mental health professional, and there’s a ton of research done in that area about gender dysphoria.

There’s plenty of criticisms about the DSMV, but most of those criticisms involve the enshittification process due to the insurance industry and geopolitical bullshit, not the science.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re:

Not surprised to see this rational, reasonable, utterly uncontroversial comment be suppressed by the radical, anti-family degenerates who infect TD below the line. Shameful.

Trans-deluded people, especially children, are being prevented from having themselves mutilated in service to mental illness. Cosmetic surgery to improve appearance (in the eyes of the person who wants it) doesn’t destroy that person’s fertility or ability to function sexually.

People can only ever be the sex of their bodies. No amount of dress, cosmetics, medicine, or surgery can ever change a person’s sex. People have social, cultural, and religious taboos against mixing sexes in certain contexts, and people whose bodies disqualify them must not be allowed into those spaces. Gender ideology is false, and therefore should never be taught as true in public schools. Public schools must never be allowed to hide the mental illness of children from their parents.

No amount of screeching “Nazi!” can ever change the tiniest fragment of reality. Reality does not change in the slightest to conform to wishful thinking. Trans-deluded male activists are misogynist men who want to be women, can never be women, and despise women who tell them so. Trans-deluded male “lesbians” despise women who will never see them as sexual or romantic partners. Trans-deluded convicted male rapists are seeking to be incarcerated with women so that they can victimize women again.

People living the trans delusion who seek mere acceptance are being sacrificed by the women-hating activists.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:

anti-family

I have never understood this line of attack against queer people. If anyone is making the idea of “having a family” less appealing, it’s the rich motherfuckers and (largely conservative) lawmakers who keep fucking up society by revoking bodily autonomy, increasing the wealth gap, doing nothing about climate change, and generally making life so much harder that people start thinking “why would we want to bring a child into this world if this world is what we’re going to leave to them”.

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That One Guy (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:2

If I had to guess it’s an extension of the ‘it’s only a family if there’s a husband and wife*’ garbage where the idea that a kid could have two mothers or two fathers is treated as just as much of an abomination as the parents themselves are by those pushing the argument.

*This is of course why any divorce results in the immediate removal of any kids to be re-homed into a proper family that still has both parents rather than have them be left with either single parent.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:3

It’s the accurate evaluation of those who would use “heteronormative” as a slur. There is a subset of queer people who regard ordinary man+woman+children families with disdain, and are not shy about proclaiming it.

As well, a same-sex couple or a person who has had themselves sufficiently mutilated are not going to be able to have children in the normal way, without third-party assistance.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:4 Its *almost* like you're full of shit herman

“There is a subset of queer people who regard ordinary man+woman+children families with disdain, and are not shy about proclaiming it.”

And yet every single time you try to pretend to be one of those people you get called out on it.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:4

It’s the accurate evaluation of those who would use “heteronormative” as a slur.

You have different⁠—and much bigger⁠—problems if someone saying “the world is indifferent at best and actively hostile at worst towards queer people” upsets you.

There is a subset of queer people who regard ordinary man+woman+children families with disdain, and are not shy about proclaiming it.

Your attempts to sockpuppet one of those queer people is both sad and deranged⁠—sad because the sockpuppeting is that blatant, deranged because you take it way too far to be even remotely believable. Also: Attempting to generalize all queer people as “anti-family” (or even “anti-heterosexuality”) based on what even you say is a subset of queer people who espouse that kind of rhetoric doesn’t do you any favors.

As well, a same-sex couple or a person who has had themselves sufficiently mutilated are not going to be able to have children in the normal way, without third-party assistance.

There you go thinking about other people’s genitals more than they do. (Again.)

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Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:6

Whatever groups of people you belong to, be it political, religious, ethnic, gender, sexual orientation etc, there will be people in those groups that have committed horrible crimes, does that make you horrible criminal?

Assigning the sins or a person to any group that they belong to is a cheap trick, especially when used to justify bigotry against the whole group.

Rocky says:

Re: Re: Re:7

We are talking about Hyman here, he has no problems suggesting the use of death camps for what he views as “culturally repugnant”, plus he defends posting CSAM if the “intention” is something he agrees with. He would happily round up everyone he thinks deserve it and not bat an eye.

Do you really think a little detail like painting whole groups of people as criminals, degenerates, and mentally ill on the basis on some anecdote he latched onto is a problem for him? He’s a fucking sociopath.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:8

Not culturally repugnant, socially repugnant. Thieves, looters, fare beaters, graffiti defacers, carjackers, shoplifters, and so on, should be shot during the commission of their crimes if they refuse to stop and surrender. Repeat offenders (“three strikes” and such) should preferably be executed, but otherwise incarcerated for life. People arrested for crimes for which they have similar prior convictions or current arrests should be kept in jail until trial.

People who want to act as if they’re members of the opposite sex should be left alone to do so, provided that they keep out of single-sex spaces for which their bodies disqualify them. People who want to have sexual or romantic relationships, including marriage, with people of their own sex are fine. People participating in parades should be subject to the same public nudity laws as anyone else (although I do not care for such laws).

Generally speaking, the death camps are for people who choose to prey on others, not for people who make others angry.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:7

This was a man prominent enough to be interviewed by NPR, so that’s a little more than just a “member of the community”.

Anyway, it doesn’t mean much except for the fact that you can find enough queer theory that’s anti-family for enemies of queer people to be able to attack them as being anti-family.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:10

You can find enough anti-family queer theory and behavior for enemies of queer people to attack them as anti-family.

Conversely, you could probably find enough heterosexual people who have no interest in having or adopting children that would let you attack heterosexuals as being “anti-family”.

The “anti-family” thing is a bad faith attack against queer people because it implies they’re actively trying to stop others from having families. But they’re not and you know it. Republicans, on the other hand, are practicing eugenics⁠—after all, they’re the party that wants to ban abortion in a country where maternal death rates are worse than most other developed countries and the maternal death rates for Black people in particular are worse than the national average.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:11

Plenty of conservatives are attacking heterosexuals for being anti-family; that includes attacking feminism, abortion, birth control, pre-marital sex, and divorce.

As for gay people, you have only to read Andrew Sullivan about how he was attacked for his early support of same-sex marriage. Some queer (or generally liberal) people are indeed against treating normal families as a vital part of a functioning society. That you choose to read “some” as “all” is not surprising, because you’re an idiot.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:12

Some queer (or generally liberal) people are indeed against treating normal families as a vital part of a functioning society.

Once more, with feeling: So what? You keep harping on that point despite it being meaningless. Unless a sudden groundswell of support for abolishing “normal families” or whatever comes from queer people and liberal voters overnight, any opinions about the family unit from individual people whom you claim are “anti-family” don’t mean a goddamn thing. And you bitch at me about generalizing, but your whole “anti-family queers” smear is entirely about painting the opinion of a queer public figure or two as representative of all queer people. At the bare minimum, you’re trying to imply that queer people in general are, on some level, fundamentally against the idea of “normal families”.

Oh, and since I’m here: Please explain what makes a “normal family” normal in the most clear and objective terms possible.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:13

So there is enough queer anti-family rhetoric available for enemies of queer people to use it to attack them.

A normal family consists of a married male father and female mother and some none-zero number of children concerned after the marriage, with at least one parent working to support the family with enough money for their needs. The parents provide a solid moral and ethical framework for the children, make sure that they get a good education, and try to raise the children in a way that will encourage them to also be a part of a normal family.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:12

Plenty of conservatives are attacking heterosexuals for being anti-family; that includes attacking feminism, abortion, birth control, pre-marital sex, and divorce.

Which doesn’t in any way detract from the point that it is still a bad faith attack against queers, which brings me back to something said earlier:

Anyway, it doesn’t mean much except for the fact that you can find enough queer theory that’s anti-family for enemies of queer people to be able to attack them as being anti-family.

If you go looking you’ll always find outliers in any group, but when a majority of people of a particular political conviction all use the same bad faith arguments, it’s not an outlier anymore.

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