Privacy Advocates Continue To Warn That Modern Toys Are A Privacy Mess

from the My-Barbie-needs-a-better-firewall dept

A decade or so ago there was a wave of warnings by privacy advocates about how modern toys had become major surveillance devices. Makers of voice recognition toys in particular had a nasty habit, researchers warned, of collecting everything your child says, poorly “anonymizing” the data (a meaningless term), then failing to secure that data from attackers.

A decade later and researchers and activists are still busy trying to get consumers to understand that modern toys are a privacy and security mess. Companies continue to over-collect data on children and monetize that data for advertising, allowing the creation of detailed profiles on children. All while not really making that clear in terms of service. And while hiding behind flimsy claims of “anonymization.”

Year after year, privacy advocates warn that significant reform is needed, and year after year not a whole lot changes when it comes to the warnings or our collective response to them:

It’s just one example of a growing trend, according to nonprofit researchers at the U.S. Public Interest Research Group (PIRG). The organization’s recent report said smart toys bring new risks, including microphones and cameras, paired with significant data collection.

“Having any data collected on a child that isn’t strictly necessary is really reckless and unsafe,” said RJ Cross, of U.S. PIRG.

And this kind of lax privacy and security standards extends to educational computer learning products. A July 2022 study by Human Rights Watch found that the “overwhelming majority” of EdTech products endorsed by 49 governments during the pandemic surveilled or had the capacity to surveil children in ways that risked or infringed on their rights.

Forcing legal accountability for global toymakers is often an uphill climb. You’ll occasionally see a company hit with a major lawsuit (as Genesis Toys was in 2017 after it was discovered that its Bluetooth and Wi-Fi enabled toys lacked even rudimentary security, allowing third-party surveillance of kids), but most of these offenders see no meaningful repercussion for lax security and privacy standards.

And again, all of these toy companies (even the ones hit with major lawsuits) hide behind the idea that there’s nothing to worry about because kid data is “anonymized.” But numerous studies keep showing how it’s easy to identify an “anonymized” individual in a data set like this with just a small smattering of additional data. As more compromised datasets stumble around the Internet, the worse it gets.

COPPA is dated and broken, the U.S. FTC lacks the money or staff to pursue privacy at any meaningful scale, and we still haven’t passed even a rudimentary new privacy law for the Internet era. When it comes to everything from your smartphone apps to your kid’s Wi-Fi connected Barbie, we’ve made it abundantly clear that making money was our top priority, and privacy remains a distant afterthought.

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Anonymous Coward says:

With new chip manufacturing gearing up, we can expect most of the disposible Internet-of-Trash devices to fade into oblivion.

Network connectivity trends show how much of a shitshow trash economics has become. Even if you run all of your updates, its probably over 80% of devices online are not.

The digital landfill and digital slums are not made for the 1st world.

More tabloid toys for the illiterates.

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Hyman Rosen (profile) says:

Oh, good grief. Privacy advocacy is so, so stupid. What harm exactly are these “detailed profiles of children” causing, even if they are real, which I’m not convinced they are? Little Alex hates oatmeal, likes peas, and plays with Slinky? Their parents will see advertisements for things they might actually like? If there’s any scandal at all, it’s that this whole targeted advertising thing is a scam that businesses are falling for. Just like the Russian failed to influence the election, all of this targeting doesn’t fit any good either.

PaulT (profile) says:

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Just because you lack the imagination to see why it’s a problem to gather data on children, that doesn’t mean there’s not potential harm.

For example, with a few seconds thought here, I can think of numerous issues. One is that if it’s a problem to gather data on adults, then surely it’s obvious why it’s a problem to build up a dossier of information on kids before they reach adulthood. Then, you seem to be assuming that any data gathered would only be about the specific child playing with the toy. This is obviously false, anyone associated with the toys can have data stored about them and tracks through various means. Even if this doesn’t lead to ad dollars (which, for some reason is the only result that your brain can imagine), it’s simply creepy for toys to be tracking kids, even if there’s not an army of pedos specifically watching and listening directly. The toys can operate without the tracking and data collection, so they should do that.

So, it seems, usual track record for you. Miss half the points raised, wave away anything you don’t watch to address, and assume that nobody can ever do something you haven’t considered, in order to pretend there’s no problem when others raise concerns.

Hyman Rosen (profile) says:

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You understand me so well.

I regard the privacy advocates with the same disdain that I have for the people who natter on about pedophile rings in pizza parlors. Privacy advocates are living in their own heads, making up paranoid delusions about all the horrible things being done to children (and adults) by devices and agencies that are spying on them.

I can’t tell people not to feel what they feel, but I can tell them that they’re wrong, and maybe laugh at them a little.

PaulT (profile) says:

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“Privacy advocates are living in their own heads, making up paranoid delusions about all the horrible things being done to children (and adults) by devices and agencies that are spying on them.”

You… do realise that there’s actually weight behind those concerns, right? The fact that some people were delusional about one thing does not invalidate other concerns?

“I can’t tell people not to feel what they feel, but I can tell them that they’re wrong”

If you’d back that up with facts, that would be. nice. Otherwise, all you’ve said is “I can’t imagine something, so it doesn’t exist”. I can think of many times people who think like that have been proven very, very wrong.

PaulT (profile) says:

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“The only facts supplied by anything in the article are about potential abilities to violate privacy”

Indeed. Most sensible people examine what can happen, they don’t wait for people to be violated first.

“That is, the privacy paranoia is just assumed.”

Indeed. It’s assumed that if left unregulated, the issues stated in the linked articles such as transcripts of conversations, video recordings, general tracking of data of both kids and their household, etc. could be misused.

Some of us would rather have those dealt with before it becomes a problem for the targets, especially in cases where that data is not necessary to the operation of the device in the first place.

I don’t see the issue here, expect that you apparently don’t imagine a problem and feel the need for people to suffer a concrete issue before acting.

Hyman Rosen (profile) says:

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Yet another example of the idiocy that privacy advocates push. It is terrific that “you” are the product, because “you” are non-rivalrous. “You” can be the product for as many companies as will have you, and you will not be diminished one bit by that. That means that you can receive enormous value for simply being yourself, as we see with all the free services available on the internet.

Hyman Rosen (profile) says:

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Except that most things aren’t sold by just one vendor, so attempts at such dynamic pricing are going to run into a competitor’s offers. If it does become prevalent, third-party services will spring up to search out the lowest prices. It also happens with brick-and-mortar stores, with prices varying across neighborhoods, and the republic hasn’t fallen because of that. None of this is worth the moral panic over privacy that its advocates hope to cause.

Anonymous Coward says:

Wi-Fi connected Barbie

maybe barbie doesn’t need that vibrator after all!

when your toy requires to be online to work. it’s time to find a new toy! it’s not so much the toy that’s the problem. it’s the APP! while i have many IOT devices connected to a stack tablets. NONE of them are connected to my computer and are firewalled off to there own corner! while my cell phone has none of it! it has better things things to do. like phone stuff……

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